Charlie Kirk is dead... A sad day in history

[Ruth]

Well, not any more.

I guess we'll have to see the direction that Erika takes TPUSA and more importantly what she does about the donors. From what's been said, this seems to be mainly a Zionist funded organisation.... and Charlie went of script.

 

[Benjamin]

In short it is not Tyler ( some foreign looking in complete black dress , professional using a short sized gun), gun is not AR-15, bullet is not 30-06 etc.

So, the gun that was found might not be the gun that was used?

 

[Yas]

Here is the latest episode from Candace. she was able to trace the person who did the video of the shooter in black on the top of the building and talked to him. What this guy was saying makes sense. In short it is not Tyler ( some foreign looking in complete black dress , professional using a short sized gun), gun is not AR-15, bullet is not 30-06 etc.

Yes, I saw that and it's an interesting witness. He says he actually saw the shot and the shooter running, and that he even reported it to the police when they got that Zinn man and told them that he was definitely not the shooter because he had just seen the actual shooter running, that he was in tactical gear and looked like a professional assassin.

Here's just that part of the Candace show, for those who want to see just that piece:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1970648580580089948

 

[Cosmos]

Fourth: I only watched about half of the following video by Jim Breuer. If possible you could listen to those couple of minutes too, to get where my thinking is:

Now, I don’t think it is as black and white as Breuer might think it is, but in general, for many/most people what he is describing about the power of the phone/sozial media might be what he is describing? A feeding tube of sorts sending energy to our 4D overloads and a great mind control tool as well? As I said I don’t think it is that black and white though and I think it is similar to any other tool (like the internet) that can be engaged with productively or destructively.

That was a hilarious and true accounting of what we've all just been subjected to! And great, general, advice: "don't feed the beast!"

Fantastic rant, hilarious and really smart at the same time. Breuer was great on covid, but this was on another level. His impersonations are soooo funny!

Yes, Jim Breuer is just brilliant, incredibly creative, gifted and funny. He is hands down my favorite comedian around these days. I have seldomly laughed as hard as I did in his bit on Covid and all the craziness that accompanied it.

What I also appreciate greatly is that he is one of the few comedians that also tries to teach/present some very important lessons in life to people who listen to his bits while following a moral compass and refusing to get vile. The stories he is telling (not only as part of his bits as a comedian) are well worth listening to because you can learn a lot about life and how to appreciate and approach it. At times he is going a bit overboard I think and his religious point of view might at times distort things quite a bit, but I still think overall what he is doing is just great. Here is a small bit he did on Kirk and Israel a couple of days ago:

Edit: Included hyperlink to Jim Breuer‘s comedy special on Covid.

 

[Ruth]

So, the gun that was found might not be the gun that was used?

Yep, it might be a plant. At least that's what the people with an interest, experience and training in ballistics have put forward.

 

[Joe]

Just thinking last night that one way to resolve the apparent speed with which Robinson was already running away so soon after the shot was heard and the crowd reacted is that there was a 2nd shooter somewhere and Robinson hadn't even gotten into a prone position ready to fire before the actual shot from a 2nd shooter, which prompted Robinson to take off. If Robinson is a patsy, you really just needed to place him around the same position as the actual shooter rather than have him do the shooting.

Also, a 2nd shooter could have used a smaller caliber bullet, potentially resolving the "magic bullet" and lack of exit wound. Perhaps a bullet designed to fragment on impact. In that case though, there's a lot of covering up going on at the FBI etc. but then that's not exactly unusual. The FBI is probably more experienced at that than solving crimes.

Edit: just watched Candace's short segment that seems to jive with the above.

 

[aragorn]

Yes, I saw that and it's an interesting witness. He says he actually saw the shot and the shooter running, and that he even reported it to the police when they got that Zinn man and told them that he was definitely not the shooter because he had just seen the actual shooter running, that he was in tactical gear and looked like a professional assassin.

Here's just that part of the Candace show, for those who want to see just that piece:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1970648580580089948

Okay, now we're maybe getting somewhere!

So, maybe it went something like this:

The Deep State [DS] (factions of the CIA+FBI, Mossad, others) duped Robinson to take a rifle (which he was handed some days prior) to the event, plant it somewhere in the bushes, so that an assassin could then use it to shoot CK. Robinson had previously been identified as being 'fertile ground' for programming and radicalization (trans, woke etc.), so after some grooming it was easy to get him to agree to help with the plot. But, he believed that it was all he had to do, just plant the rifle, and the rest would be taken care of. Then, the professional guy in tactical gear and balaclava entered the scene and took the shot with a smaller rifle with some kind of smaller special bullet that disperses as it enters the target, and thus doesn't produce an exit wound. As Robinson learns of the shooting having taken place, he believes that "his" rifle was used.

Immediately after the DS guys in black suits pay visits to the 'normal' FBI and other law enforcement guys, saying something like: "Okay, so you've seen in your footage how a foreign looking sniper in camouflage took the shot. Now, it's a matter of national security that this information does not get out, we don't want anyone to know that a foreign agency (Mossad) was behind this! If this leaks out, it will be an international scandal and the whole world will be in danger! Lucky for you, we have a script ready that will cover up things nicely (hands over the script framing Robinson as the shooter)"

Robinson feels guilty because he believes that he aided the killing by providing the rifle. So, when they arrest him he doesn't protest too much, but doesn't admit killing CK either. But the DS guys 'act dumb' and charge him with the murder, because they have enough evidence (the 'wrong' rifle, maybe some text messages, video of him hiding the rifle etc.) to convict him.

 

[Cosmos]

Just thinking last night that one way to resolve the apparent speed with which Robinson was already running away so soon after the shot was heard and the crowd reacted is that there was a 2nd shooter somewhere and Robinson hadn't even gotten into a prone position ready to fire before the actual shot from a 2nd shooter, which prompted Robinson to take off. If Robinson is a patsy, you really just needed to place him around the same position as the actual shooter rather than have him do the shooting.

Also, a 2nd shooter could have used a smaller caliber bullet, potentially resolving the "magic bullet" and lack of exit wound. Perhaps a bullet designed to fragment on impact. In that case though, there's a lot of covering up going on at the FBI etc. but then that's not exactly unusual. The FBI is probably more experienced at that than solving crimes.

Edit: just watched Candace's short segment that seems to jive with the above.

Yes. See below. There is a possible location of that supposed second shooter that might/could possibly explain both the “mysterious not shooting through of the bullet“ in Kirk‘s body as well as a number of other confusing things.

I don’t quite understand why nobody has proposed or seriously looked at that spot as far as I could see while there are so many proposed and possibly outlandish locations examined and put out there at the same time.

First the more or less official explanation from where “Tyler“ was shooting from shown in the New York Times:



And here is the possible location that caught my eye. The building is slightly higher then Tylers supposed position:



Somewhere from that building (inside or on top) could explain a couple of anomalies and account for a couple of things:

- It isn’t much further to Kirks body.

- From there you could almost match Kirks angle of shooting I would guess.

- It might clear the tent under which Kirk was: You could possibly have a line of sight.

- Tylers height angle for shooting is supposed to be +- 10 degrees and from that location it could be slightly or quite a bit more than that.

- Because of the higher shoot angle it could be that the bullet shot through Kirk’s neck and then into his chest cavity possibly ricocheting within his body a couple of times.

- See last point above. Because of the higher shoot angle it could be that the bullet cut through a lot more flesh and possibly bones, thus possibly explaining why it supposedly didn’t exit Kirk’s body.

Having said the above, I haven’t examined the kill shot nor looked at that footage so far (and do not plan to do so) and thus can’t check if the location would be possible. It just kind of occurred to me from all the other things I have seen/read as a probable location.

 

[thorbiorn]

In short it is not Tyler ( some foreign looking in complete black dress , professional using a short sized gun), gun is not AR-15, bullet is not 30-06 etc

The AR-15 is not that long, just over 30 inches from what I could find. Anyway, a possibility would a bullpup type rifle. About bullpup weapons, the Wiki begins:

A bullpup firearm is one with its firing grip located in front of the breech of the weapon, instead of behind it. This creates a weapon with a shorter overall length for a given barrel length, and one that is often lighter, more compact, concealable, and more maneuverable than a conventionally configured firearm. Where it is desirable for troops to be issued a more compact weapon, the use of a bullpup configuration allows for barrel length to be retained, thus preserving muzzle velocity, range, and ballistic effectiveness.

For clarification, breech is described in the Wiki for chamber:

The chamber of a firearm is the cavity at the back end of a breechloading weapon's barrel or cylinder, where the ammunition is inserted before being fired. The rear opening of the chamber is the breech, and is sealed by the breechblock or the bolt.

In other words, the barrel extends behind the trigger when held. For weapons in this class, see the Wiki list. Rather than going through a list like in the Wiki, looking up reviews, here is one from AmericanFirearms.org, which shows what such guns, as found on the US market look like with three of three of the top being below 72 cm long.

For some there is information about the length, for others it was necessary to look for it.

Length

28.15 inches

32 inch barrel plus 18 See the Wiki.

26.23 inches

28.25

In the review there were two others, the Israeli IWI Tavor X95 Bullpup Rifle Bullpup Rifle which is 26 inches long (66 cm), and the
KEL-TEC RFB Bullpup Rifle which is 27.28 inches. Regarding the above evaluation of accuracy, it can not be ruled out that some models can be enhanced for accuracy.

Whatever was seen near the event, the M99 above is quite long, and it is hefty bullet, .416 or .50 (12.2mm) so this can be ruled out. But there was, and this gives an idea of what some snipers can achieve at a distance with the right type of weapon and ammunition.

Its primary market was long-range competitive target shooters and in 2001, a shooter set a world record at 1,000 yd (910 m) with the M99 by shooting a 5-shot group which measured 4.09 in (10.4 cm).

Was a smart bullet used?
If weapon and caliber has to be reconsidered, what about the type of bullet? The Wiki for smart bullet has:

A smart bullet is a bullet that is able to do something other than simply follow its given trajectory, such as turning, changing speed or sending data. Such a projectile may be fired from a precision-guided firearm capable of programming its behavior. It is a miniaturized type of precision-guided munition.

In 2008 the EXACTO program began under DARPA to develop a "fire and forget" smart sniper rifle system including a guided smart bullet and improved scope. The exact technologies of this smart bullet have yet to be released. EXACTO was test fired in 2014 and 2015 and results showing the bullet alter course to correct its path to its target were released.

In 2012 Sandia National Laboratories announced a self-guided bullet prototype that could track a target illuminated with a laser designator. The bullet is capable of updating its position 30 times a second and hitting targets over a mile away.

In mid-2016, Russia revealed it was developing a similar "smart bullet" weapon designed to hit targets at a distance of up to 10 kilometres (6.2 mi).

If a smart bullet was used it might be able to move straight and then change direction not to go through, but into the body. There are many options. Even if a smart bullet was not used here, it is a trend to keep in mind for the future or maybe consider for the past? Notice in the Wiki that not much has been released for years.

 

[Ruth]

Already ruled out. He's not holding a gun, and he's adjusting his roll-up sleeve.

He also might be part of the security team, as in Candace's video he is seen running towards Charlie and pushing the person out of the way that she is investigating.

 

[Phill4]

This guys is a spine suregon explaining in a short that the point of impact may not have been spinal injury but brain stem injury instead. He has more shorts explaining the type of impact

Seems like that video was made private, in case others missed it here is another one of his vids explaining the type of injury
He handle is Drbenbjerke

He explained on the other vid that it wasn't a spinal injury as that would make the body go limp but instead it was the Brain Stem

 

[seek10]

So, the gun that was found might not be the gun that was used?

IMHO, that is the case. Despite hundreds of billions or even trillions over last 25 years, authorities didn't solve not even a one case, despite multiple high profile shootings every year. They are 'reality creators' and had a publicized goal of 'Full-spectral dominance'. i.e. they have databases of activities of 'people of interest' and pick and choose the data by nebulous 'control centers' (FBI or not, to pull the strings to push the layers of cover stories) to create a 'patsy' and so on until people are tired of figuring out what is happening.

 

[Beau]

Just thinking last night that one way to resolve the apparent speed with which Robinson was already running away so soon after the shot was heard and the crowd reacted is that there was a 2nd shooter somewhere and Robinson hadn't even gotten into a prone position ready to fire before the actual shot from a 2nd shooter, which prompted Robinson to take off. If Robinson is a patsy, you really just needed to place him around the same position as the actual shooter rather than have him do the shooting.

Also, a 2nd shooter could have used a smaller caliber bullet, potentially resolving the "magic bullet" and lack of exit wound. Perhaps a bullet designed to fragment on impact. In that case though, there's a lot of covering up going on at the FBI etc. but then that's not exactly unusual. The FBI is probably more experienced at that than solving crimes.

Pretty much the exact same thoughts I've had about both issues. He heard the shot and rightfully freaked out and ran away. The official story on the gun/bullet doesn't jive with what happened to Kirk when he was shot and if Robinson is a patsy then the gun we are told was used must also be suspect.

 

[Huila]

 

[JEEP]

Ha! So, apparently I was right about the "just sayin'" vid -

What puzzles me is it appeared to show a very rapid action on the roof with him being prone and shooting for maybe less than a minute. That would seem to contradict an earlier vid where he was spied on the roof with the voice over ending with "just sayin'." Those spectators would have witnessed the shot if the other vid is accurate.

And that is what Candace has said appears to be true - that those two people actually saw and heard the shot the moment they stopped recording. And the rest - a guy in camo/tactical gear with a different rifle than that previously reported; one reported what he saw right away - as posted previously:

Here is the latest episode from Candace. she was able to trace the person who did the video of the shooter in black on the top of the building and talked to him. What this guy was saying makes sense. In short it is not Tyler ( some foreign looking in complete black dress , professional using a short sized gun), gun is not AR-15, bullet is not 30-06 etc.

Yes, I saw that and it's an interesting witness. He says he actually saw the shot and the shooter running, and that he even reported it to the police when they got that Zinn man and told them that he was definitely not the shooter because he had just seen the actual shooter running, that he was in tactical gear and looked like a professional assassin.

Of course now, one wonders about the safety of the witness who alerted police and the other with the video evidence that can invalidate Tyler as the shooter. This was obviously a well-planned operation and will it be possible to expose it in a way that launches a real investigation. One can imagine just how deep this probably goes. But, if enough of the public raises a stink about the official story and how there's a different shooter in the mix by an eyewitness account and vid, plus the inconsistencies regarding bullet damage, maybe they won't be able to pass off their BS assassin tale like every time before. We'll see.