Charlie Kirk is dead... A sad day in history

Candace now saying she has received information that Robinson is innocent, the story of his father turning him in is a lie, and that he's not suicidal. That he has never been on UVU campus (but was "around" the campus that day) and is maintaining his innocence.
But... she can't reveal the source. Talk about a monkey wrench! (See the text accompanying her speaking.)

 
After reading Laurent's take, and comparing that to all the very odd behaviors and observations that we've already noted in this thread, I'm starting to have a real seed of doubt.

As for Laurent (have read his book on JFK et cetera), awhile ago he came out against Candace in hit piece on her book (which i've a copy) and her theories. What he said made little sense, much twisting, and here we have a real voodoo take on Kirk by Laurent that makes little sense, so what is going on with Laurent?

To me, there are 101 unanswered questions as it is - it will take time, if ever to know, and yet Laurent looks to be muddying the waters with wax effigies in a grand conspires that are just too grand (IMO).

That said, there are shenanigans' aplenty, as can be seen.
 
My bet is now pretty much as well that a bullet that hit Kirk was causing both the shirt blow up (at least partially caused by the necklace he was wearing) and the wound on his Neck. Who shot it is another question. Of course it could be Tyler but also that it was someone else.

One of the biggest problems I had with the shirt behavior is that it appears to happen before the wound on the neck visibly appears but I think it is perfectly possible that the initial hit of the bullet isn’t visible because the entry and/or initial hit of such a bullet is so small and hard to see/catch by a camera and that it takes some time for the bullet to, first, cut through the flesh/bones, second, release its energy into the surrounding area, third release energy into the wider body and fourth cause the extreme damage to his neck.

I think it is possible and even likely that the bullet caused the behavior of the necklace and/or his shirt at any point in time between the first contact with the body and the point in time LATER that the wound visibly appears on the body and camera footage.
 
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That's pretty crazy, note that his neck seems to 'inflate' at the back too because his hairline changes pretty dramatically from the 1st to 2nd image. Maybe we're looking at the kinetic energy of the bullet being transferred into his chest cavity and staying there rather than exiting. Like I said before, it's possible that no one has ever seen this dynamic before, especially in terms of being able to watch the footage frame by frame. So we're really flying blind when it comes to the mechanics of that kind of bullet doing what it allegedly did to a person of Kirk's particular morphology.

The neck is visibly swollen at the time of the shot in a few videos so it's definitely not an artifact or trick of the light.

I'm pretty sure the Paramount Tactical guy made note of the swelling of Charlie's head/neck/chest in one of his videos as well.

Candace now saying she has received information that Robinson is innocent, the story of his father turning him in is a lie, and that he's not suicidal. That he has never been on UVU campus (but was "around" the campus that day) and is maintaining his innocence.
But... she can't reveal the source. Talk about a monkey wrench! (See the text accompanying her speaking.)


A monkey wrench indeed!

That would move the investigation from a Crooks case to a Mangione case.
 
Good stuff, thanks. I also have the necklace in mind. Do you think a bullet impact, not necessarily a .30-06, can cause enough of a shockwave within the neck to propel the chain backwards - given that it is resting against the back of the neck? Once that chain is jerked in any direction, I'd think it could behave pretty dramatically in general, flying all over the place.
Thank you. Without a direct hit to the chain no, even then the projectile would simply cut it. Ballooning skin (and chest) with no exit? Chain would move with the skin and return with it, may drag the cross further up his chest, skin might split too. That's happened with pigs I shot back in the 80's, no exit wound but a split using a .270 Win and .303 British but the bullet always passed close under the skin to do so. Parallel to flat bone like a scapula or pelvis causing localized expansion and splitting of the skin on younger pigs with no exit wound. I can't see how a chain/crucifix, propelled by localized ballooning skin would have enough energy to lift a shirt neckline level with the ear. Try it at home with a new T shirt in a mirror, pinch and pull the neckline level with your earlobe, takes a bit of force, then let it snap back. Notice the wrinkle and fold pattern too. Would a silver crucifix propelled by ballooning chest and skin have enough energy to achieve that? The chain would tighten a little before returning to pretty much it's original position. A blunt or deformed projectile could catch the fabric and do that. I know people will be conducting tests with ballistic dummies etc. but you really need something with skin on it, like a pig carcass for a better analogue.
What are your thoughts on this? I asked Grok "What is the weakest .30-06 bullet and the least likely to create an exit wound?
If CK was hit in the neck by a light 30-06 frangible bullet the fragments would travel forward and a deformed central core could lodge under the skin or scapula. Other fragments would lodge in various structures, some would pass through muscle and hit skin, not penetrate but travel along it before stopping. If the carotid was ruptured but not the airway you could get a lot of blood exiting from the entrance wound too. Generally the entrance wound closes and blood follows the path of least resistance. I've seen all this happen hunting but why does his shirt behave that way? Fragments from frangible bullets don't go sideways, the bullet may tumble upon impact and fragment but I doubt we'd, see the shirt inflate as we did, far less energy from light projectiles even when you increase the powder load. Could use a specialist sabot round but you'd want to practice and sight your rifle in with with it first and once again the shirt wouldn't inflate. May as well just use a regular ballistic or soft tipped 30-06, a soft/ballistic tip 5.56 or even a ballistic tipped .22 magnum or .17 HMR rimfires. I shoot the .17 HMR rimfire with ballistic tipped bullets that are by nature frangible, rapidly disintegrates within 2 inches of penetration sending small metal fragments forward in cone. Leaves no exit wound and the entrance wound is tiny, 4.5mm but due to internal damage you often get a lot of blood that can exit the wound in quantity if it has no where else to go and the heart still beats. Finally, I've shot deer and large pigs at close range in the chest with heavy caliber bullets to ensure they're dead, an apparently well hit and dead deer or pig can get up and run. There's no weird asymmetric bulges, just a ripple from the shock wave radiating from the entry point.
 
If CK was hit in the neck by a light 30-06 frangible bullet the fragments would travel forward and a deformed central core could lodge under the skin or scapula. Other fragments would lodge in various structures, some would pass through muscle and hit skin, not penetrate but travel along it before stopping. If the carotid was ruptured but not the airway you could get a lot of blood exiting from the entrance wound too. Generally the entrance wound closes and blood follows the path of least resistance. I've seen all this happen hunting but why does his shirt behave that way? Fragments from frangible bullets don't go sideways, the bullet may tumble upon impact and fragment but I doubt we'd, see the shirt inflate as we did, far less energy from light projectiles even when you increase the powder load. Could use a specialist sabot round but you'd want to practice and sight your rifle in with with it first and once again the shirt wouldn't inflate. May as well just use a regular ballistic or soft tipped 30-06, a soft/ballistic tip 5.56 or even a ballistic tipped .22 magnum or .17 HMR rimfires. I shoot the .17 HMR rimfire with ballistic tipped bullets that are by nature frangible, rapidly disintegrates within 2 inches of penetration sending small metal fragments forward in cone. Leaves no exit wound and the entrance wound is tiny, 4.5mm but due to internal damage you often get a lot of blood that can exit the wound in quantity if it has no where else to go and the heart still beats. Finally, I've shot deer and large pigs at close range in the chest with heavy caliber bullets to ensure they're dead, an apparently well hit and dead deer or pig can get up and run. There's no weird asymmetric bulges, just a ripple from the shock wave radiating from the entry point.
Somewhat speculative but want to ask since you have experience with different ammo types/caliber , would not even a frangible bullet 30.06 type with smaller load ( 50 grain ?) still have exit wounds if its entrance wound is the neck as with CK ? given how thin neck is , seems plausible if not certain ?.
 
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