Charlie Kirk is dead... A sad day in history

[JEEP]

It could just be that her 'Romania Angels' role for orphans was largely ceremonial, and that she had no idea the US colonel stationed there was a degenerate.

We keep wanting to give Erika the benefit of the doubt, which as basically good people we tend to do and sadly, that facet of our being has been weaponized for use against us. As the Cs responded, "A bit shady. Notice her current behavior", what exactly are we to make of that? Is she merely a useful idiot that was groomed by her "shady" family to be the honeypot to snare Charlie? Is she a full-fledged psychopath that knowingly set up a charity that sent innocent orphans into the child trafficking pipeline?

We know that very attractive persons are instantly given a highly favorable reception in people's minds, a psychological fact. Does her outward beauty cunningly hide a devious and evil persona inside? We'll have to go with "By their fruits ye shall know them." IOW, wait and see how she proceeds from this point on, keeping in mind she's surrounded by the wolves who plotted to take out Charlie. My take anyway.

 

[il y a des cactus]

Here is an afterlife interview with Charlie Kirk: part 1

and part 2:

. I was hoping for more answers about the shooting, but Charlie was not forthcoming with much detail. The main message was one of hope, unity, love of God and family, etc. He had soul contracts with his family and this was a chosen exit point. I'd love to see a similar interview with a different channeler as I'm not sure about this one. And maybe a different interviewer. This was a bit of a softball.

 

[The Mechanic]

Is that spot marked in yellow exactly where Kirk lay? How soon afterwards was this still/footage taken? Have objects (and the tent itself) since been moved around or altered? They're making a 'strange lack of blood' assessment based on very limited data and faulty assumptions.

I agree. I havent seen any footage of first aid being delivered tbh.

 

[JEEP]

"A bit shady. Notice her current behavior", what exactly are we to make of that?

I started watching this vid in which Erika's public speech response is being critiqued - unfavorably. I watched most of it, but it really got to be too much to stomach, both Erika's part and the analysis. I skipped watching those post death speeches, so it's the first time I'm hearing/viewing her behavior in what amounts to a eulogy - and it is um, abnormal at best, deliberate acting at worst. I already previously noted that her up-close vid at Charlie's casket was beyond the pale, so the starting point regarding her actions was already set at weird.

Concerning this vid critiquing her speech, I don't believe Erika was on scene to witness Charlie's death - on campus, but not in that collected audience. Whether she witnessed it from afar or ever saw the video of his being killed, I don't know. Nonetheless, as has been remarked by others, what comes across is very performative behavior, overly dramatic - particularly the whispering - for maximum effect and I think that's hard to dismiss. Is she some kind of programmed she-bot who's still playing her part in this horrific, shock and awe psych attack on everyone's sensibilities for the very nefarious objective it was meant to achieve? The beautiful blonde, sweet and loving wife and mother image purposely cultivated to deceive the gullible true believers? It should be noted that she did finally say evildoers, plural, so not the official lone perp narrative being fomented.

I'm afraid my benefit of the doubt is leaning more and more to devious she-bot. However, I did hear a clip of Tucker Carlson's impression of Erika when he first met her and how blown away he was by her. She is no ordinary woman according to Tucker (or maybe just a first encounter with a Stepford wife), and so that needs to be added in to the analysis of this person we're trying to figure out. I think it's safe to say she's one of a kind, and if we're lucky, one way or another, she'll come out on the side of good and may even prove integral to revealing the true evil that took place in what can only be described as a mindf*ck psyop.

Which lioness will come out on top - Erika or Candace? Wait and see.

 

[gottathink]

Here’s a reasonable take at this point:

The Girlboss Paradox​

That’s where things get fascinating. The conservative movement she now leads often promotes a vision of womanhood rooted in submission, family, and “biblical femininity.” Yet Erika is the opposite of a silent partner. She’s a beauty queen–turned–executive, a faith-based influencer, a mother who also happens to run a multimillion-dollar political organization.

The contradiction feels ripped from The Handmaid’s Tale. If Charlie was the commander, Erika was never Offred — she was Serena Joy: articulate, stylish, powerful, shaping narratives while speaking the language of tradition. Her rise exposes the paradox within modern conservative politics: railing against feminism while simultaneously celebrating women who embody its gains — ambition, leadership, visibility.

Why This Story Sticks​

Part of why Erika Kirk’s backstory fascinates is timing. She just inherited one of the most high-profile conservative platforms in the U.S., while still in the eye of a global grieving process. Part of it is narrative: her life arc — beauty queen, influencer, widow, CEO — is tailor-made for headlines. And part of it is the way the internet works in 2025: every past connection, rumor, and contradiction gets pulled up, memed, and dissected.

So what’s real? Erika Kirk did model, did direct casting, did found multiple ventures, did build an influencer brand, and did meet Charlie through a “job interview turned date.” She has not been charged with anything in Romania, and the trafficking claims remain unproven internet chatter.

But whether true, false, or exaggerated, these stories stick because Erika herself is a living paradox: the conservative widow who also happens to be a girlboss CEO, the faith-driven homemaker who runs a political empire, the figure who looks just as at home in a boardroom as in a Bible study.

In the end, Erika Kirk’s past may not be the Netflix scandal some corners of the internet want it to be. But her present — equal parts influencer, entrepreneur, and political leader — is already stranger, and more compelling, than fiction.

 

[Niall]

I don't think that's Kirk's arm coming up, more likely someone closer down to Kirk? If so, that would explain why these three security guys we see 'don't have any blood on them' - they're not among those closest to Kirk.

Or, it is Kirk's arm, but some troll has intentionally manipulated the video to make it seem like Kirk is raising it himself.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1975233862558167161

 

[Niall]

The Kirk memorial from another perspective:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1969955536201236572

Remember the above video/rant from a woman who said the 'occult/astrological' aspects to Kirk's memorial would see all attendees there 'farmed' for 'higher/dark forces'?

She meant it, I presume, more or less in the way we understand it - 'loosh' to 4DSTS - but their data was also literally farmed for Israel:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1975173945180520936

 

[Brewer]

Or, it is Kirk's arm, but some troll has intentionally manipulated the video to make it seem like Kirk is raising it himself.

Most probably. Sunglass guy on the left flings chair aside, places right hand on table, removes it then moves CK's right arm.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1972680339530346987

 

[Beau]

Candace releases what some might call a bombshell

https://twitter.com/x/status/1975317095463461382

 

[Jones]

Soon after CK's assassination, I remember Candace saying that the only ones that could get her to stop investigating the assassination were Erika Kirk or someone else that I can't remember - maybe Tucker? In her latest live, TPUSA have asked her to stop asking questions, but she ain't going there because there are too many holes in the official story. Her latest live streamed 4hrs ago and has already had a million views.

"Today we will discuss a psychological strategy known as the “David Hoggin” somebody. TPUSA is David Hogging us right now.'

 

[John G]

Soon after CK's assassination, I remember Candace saying that the only ones that could get her to stop investigating the assassination were Erika Kirk or someone else that I can't remember - maybe Tucker? In her latest live, TPUSA have asked her to stop asking questions, but she ain't going there because there are too many holes in the official story. Her latest live streamed 4hrs ago and has already had a million views.

"Today we will discuss a psychological strategy known as the “David Hoggin” somebody. TPUSA is David Hogging us right now.'

It was Erika Kirk or her husband. I was wondering if Erika Kirk could still do it and am not overly surprised that she/TPUSA can't.

 

[seek10]

Interesting graph from the past.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1969836978935152917

screen shot from the above video.


See how fast the Israeli support recovered after 1982 drop. I asked Grok.

what is the reason for drop in israeli popularity in 1982?

The drop in Israeli popularity in the United States in 1982 was primarily due to the Sabra and Shatila massacre, which occurred during the 1982 Lebanon War. This event significantly impacted public perception of Israel in the U.S. and around the world. Here are the key details:

• Sabra and Shatila Massacre: In September 1982, during the Israeli invasion of Lebanon, the Lebanese Christian Phalange militia, with the support and facilitation of the Israel Defense Forces (IDF), massacred between 460 and 3,500 Palestinian and Lebanese civilians in the Sabra neighborhood and the adjacent Shatila refugee camp in Beirut. The IDF was aware of the atrocities but did not intervene to stop them, and even provided illumination with flares during the night of the massacre.
• Media Coverage: The massacre was widely covered by international media, including American television, which brought the horrific images and reports directly into American homes. This was one of the first times such graphic footage of Israeli-related violence was broadcasted, leading to a significant shift in public opinion.
• Public Reaction: The exposure to these events led to a sharp decline in favorable views of Israel among Americans. According to Gallup polls, Israeli favorability dropped from 46% in 1981 to 32% in 1983, while favorability towards Palestinians increased from 12% to 18% over the same period.
• Historical Context: Prior to this, Israel had enjoyed relatively high favorability in the U.S., often above 50%, due to its position as a key ally and the perception of it as a democratic state in a volatile region. The massacre challenged this narrative and highlighted the complexities and controversies of Israeli military actions.

This event marked a turning point in American public opinion towards Israel, prompting a reevaluation of the U.S.-Israel relationship and leading to increased scrutiny and criticism of Israeli policies.

Tell me the immediate actions Israel took in 1982 after the drop in favorability, not later one's

Immediately following the drop in favorability due to the Sabra and Shatila massacre in 1982, Israel took several urgent and direct actions to mitigate the damage to its image and restore public support in the United States. These immediate responses were crucial in the short term to address the crisis. Here are the key actions taken in 1982 and shortly thereafter:1. Formation of the Kahan Commission

• Establishment: In response to international outrage and domestic pressure, Israel established the Kahan Commission in late 1982 to investigate the events of the Sabra and Shatila massacre. The commission, chaired by Israeli Supreme Court Justice Yitzhak Kahan, was tasked with determining responsibility and recommending actions.
• Findings and Recommendations: The commission's report, released in February 1983, found that Israeli Defense Minister Ariel Sharon bore "personal responsibility" for not preventing the massacre and recommended his resignation. This was an attempt to demonstrate accountability and address the perception of complicity.
• Impact: While the commission's findings were seen as a step towards transparency, they also sparked controversy and further debate, but it was part of the immediate response to show that Israel was addressing the issue.

2. Public Relations and Media Damage Control

• Immediate Media Engagement: Israeli officials and diplomats engaged in intensive media campaigns to counter the negative coverage. This included press conferences, interviews, and statements to explain Israel's perspective and distance itself from the actions of the Phalange militia.
• Narrative Shaping: There was an immediate effort to frame the massacre as an unfortunate incident carried out by Lebanese forces, not Israeli policy, emphasizing that Israel did not intend for such an outcome.

3. Diplomatic Efforts

• Apologies and Condemnations: Israeli Prime Minister Menachem Begin and other officials publicly condemned the massacre and expressed regret. This was aimed at mollifying international opinion and particularly the U.S. audience.
• Engagement with the U.S.: Israeli diplomats worked closely with U.S. officials to explain the situation and reaffirm the strategic alliance. This included high-level meetings and communications to ensure continued support despite the public backlash.

4. Lobbying Intensification

• AIPAC and Pro-Israel Groups: Immediately after the massacre, pro-Israel lobbying groups like AIPAC ramped up their efforts to maintain congressional support. They organized emergency meetings, briefings, and campaigns to counteract the negative sentiment.
• Congressional Briefings: Israeli officials and lobbyists provided extensive briefings to U.S. lawmakers to explain the context of the Lebanon War and the massacre, aiming to preserve bipartisan support.

5. Military and Strategic Reassessment

• Withdrawal from Beirut: In response to the massacre and the ensuing international pressure, Israel began a partial withdrawal from Beirut in late 1982, which was part of an effort to de-escalate and reduce the military footprint that had led to the crisis.
• Reevaluation of Military Strategy: There was an internal reassessment of military strategies and the use of allied militias, aiming to prevent similar incidents in the future.

6. Cultural and Symbolic Gestures

• Memorials and Acknowledgments: Israel made efforts to acknowledge the tragedy, including memorial services and statements of condolence, to show empathy and a willingness to learn from the event.

These immediate actions were part of a broader strategy to address the immediate crisis and lay the groundwork for longer-term recovery of Israel's image. The focus was on accountability, damage control, and maintaining the crucial U.S.-Israel relationship despite the significant setback.

Will it succeed to woo Americans back this time? In any case, It looks Israel is in hurry to finish off Iran. It is true Gaza is in hopeless stage. If it is the greater Israel is what they want, one can expect to achieve that first (instead of token bombings of non-Palestinian countries). right?

It sounds like Nazi's who were making study progress against Britain, stopped in that direction and went against Russia during World war II. Will the history repeat again?

 

[seek10]

Soon after CK's assassination, I remember Candace saying that the only ones that could get her to stop investigating the assassination were Erika Kirk or someone else that I can't remember - maybe Tucker? In her latest live, TPUSA have asked her to stop asking questions, but she ain't going there because there are too many holes in the official story. Her latest live streamed 4hrs ago and has already had a million views.

"Today we will discuss a psychological strategy known as the “David Hoggin” somebody. TPUSA is David Hogging us right now.'

I had a laugh, when she ended the episode with this . From the you tube transcripts.
1:03:39

I will say in closing and going back to France, if I found brigitte's penis, I will find who killed Charlie Kirk. We'll see you guys tomorrow.

She is realizing that we may never know who killed CK. Well, every body knows, there is nothing any body can do any thing about it.
Another one

50:58

Even this headline is crazy. uh this this this came out that like their Tik Tok which we we covered this before their moderation team like IDF soldiers. uh and Bibi Netanyahu saying we're taking over Tik Tok like my agents are going to get that in a purchase. That's what needs to happen so that we can win announcing. Essentially psychological warfare on on the American people. Because, they don't think we can think for ourselves and decide who we want to follow on X all by ourselves. Apparently, they're going to ban the juice box emoji Right?

Because people because they can't talk about the modern state of Israel have been using like the apple juice because juice can sound like Jews. And so they're now moderating that. And I will say this, that's going to be funny because it's just it's going to be a game like whack-a-ole and all we can do is laugh at it because these people are savvy.

These Tik Tockers are like they're pretty savvy on the internet. They're going to be some gonna be announcing like let's use this emoji instead from now on. This represents the modern state of Israel. And before you know it, there's going to be no emojis that are allowed on Tik Tok. Actually, it would be funny. The funniest thing that they could possibly do right now is every time you want to talk about Israel on Tik Tok, use the term Tik Tok and see if Tik Tok will ban Tik Tok from Tik Tok. That's how we win. Like, if that happens, we win. Okay? We get to laugh forever that we made Tik Tok ban Tik Tok because Tik Tok is actually code for Israel. The modern state of Tik Tok.