Charlie Kirk is dead... A sad day in history

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Interesting argument about Erika as Psychopath.

I ended up at the same speculation myself.

 

[Fluffy]

I ended up at the same speculation myself.

I’m not convinced, she doesn’t seem smart enough to me (before Charlie died especially), the more I watch the more it really feels like something very odd is behind the wheel steering the ship, and that’s what I think people are picking up on, this inauthentic persona that’s completely inconsistent to how normal people act in her situation.

I know it doesn’t count for much watching remote viewers and psychics, though akin to the hunch I have about her many of them have said they’ve communicated with her soul and she says she was removed and replaced in the weeks before Charlie was killed. I think it’s something like that.

 

[Cosmos]

I’m not convinced, she doesn’t seem smart enough to me

Just a note besides the question weather Erika is a “Psychopath“ or not:

I’m pretty sure Psychopathy as well as pretty much anything else exists on a distribution curve, meaning, for example, that in terms of smartness or IQ many Psychopaths probably exists that are well below average levels in that regard, many that are on an average level and many that are above average. So, I don’t think anyone can easily say that just because a person is (or appears to be) stupid or smart has to necessarily mean that he is a Psychopath or not. Good example in terms of Psychopathy in that regard is that in prisons the not so smart ones tend to be concentrated.

It is also important to understand in such distribution curves that “a Psychopath“ can come in many colors, proclivities and temperaments as is the case with ordinary people as well, such as: some tend to be lazy, some tend to be the opposite, some tend to be violent, some don’t and so on (endless differences).

 

[Fluffy]

Just a note besides the question weather Erika is a “Psychopath“ or not:

I’m pretty sure Psychopathy as well as pretty much anything else exists on a distribution curve, meaning, for example, that in terms of smartness or IQ many Psychopaths probably exists that are well below average levels in that regard, many that are on an average level and many that are above average. So, I don’t think anyone can easily say that just because a person is (or appears to be) stupid or smart has to necessarily mean that he is a Psychopath or not. Good example in terms of Psychopathy in that regard is that in prisons the not so smart ones tend to be concentrated.

It is also important to understand in such distribution curves that “a Psychopath“ can come in many colors, proclivities and temperaments as is the case with ordinary people as well, such as: some tend to be lazy, some tend to be the opposite, some tend to be violent, some don’t and so on (endless differences).

I really haven’t done much research on them, seems like it’s time. I assumed their link to 4D STS gave them an advantage in IQ and cunningness.

 

[Beau]

I ended up at the same speculation myself.

Yeah. I thought to ask the C's that during the last session. It would definitely explain her very odd behavior post-assassination - filming and posting on social media next to CK's coffin, then her conference calls with all of TPUSA employees talking about selling merch 2 weeks after her husband was killed. Normal people don't do this stuff. But a low IQ psychopath wouldn't understand how bad it looks.

 

[JEEP]

According to Candace's last show, she's going all in on Erika - she's taking next week off to compile a biography of her that will begin airing the following week on Monday, the 23rd - @0:07 in vid, "we go off air next week preparing for our limited Erika Kirk series."

Streamed live on Feb 12, 2026:

The internet digs up an odd relationship Erika had with a then 15-year-old girl named Jillian, Pam Bondi rants about the stock market while being questioned about Epstein, and TPUSA issues a statement about the missing wedding photo.

00:00 - Start.
01:11 - Erika's odd texting relationship with a 15-year-old.
28:57 - Military color of the day confirmation.
33:02 - Photogate update.
40:28 - The Pam Boni Epstein hearing.
53:16 - Comments.

 

[Voyageur]

Streamed live on Feb 12, 2026:

The internet digs up an odd relationship Erika had with a then 15-year-old girl named Jillian...

Jimmy Dore had this, too (started with Baron Coleman):

Erika Kirk Accused of “Grooming” Teen!​

Had seen this on Candace, and if true, this past will not be helping Erika one bit. If true, will her religious base continue to prop her up?

Did Erika Kirk send explicit texts to 15-year-old in 2014? ‘Grooming’ allegation surfaces

Unverified claims allege Turning Point USA boss Erika Kirk sent explicit messages to a 15-year-old. Screenshots went viral, but the claims aren’t verified.

www.hindustantimes.com

On Charlie's killing, the C's remind that Erika had not had awareness or had not played a part, however, they did say that she is:

A: A bit shady. Notice her current behavior.

Shady indeed.

1570s, "affording or abounding with shade;" 1590s, "protected by shade, sheltered from glare or heat;"
[...]
The meaning "disreputable" (1862) might be from or reinforced by the earlier university-slang sense of "of questionable merit, unreliable" (1848, perhaps on the notion of "such as cannot bear the light"). Related: Shadily; shadiness. Old English had sceadlic "shady" ('shadely'); the Elizabethans also had shadeful. Colloquial on the shady side of "older than" (a specified age) is by 1808.

It is also Greek for "skotos "darkness, gloom;"'

If she did not have awareness or had not played a part in the plot to kill (seems reasonable to me she did not), how does one account for her actions? If she didn't know, she must surely now know.

 

[Ca.]

The latest from GW

Though Webb makes no connection to the ultimate agenda of the 4DSTS, his speculation does connect a lot of dots, as mentioned below from the Session on 27 September 2025, IMHO.

(Joe) Well, on that point, what percentage of the population in America suspect that the official story about Charlie Kirk's assassination is not the truth?

A: Over 70 percent.

Ft Huachuca, Drug Interdiction Funding, and the Long Shadow of Church Surveillance in America

Did Trump's Drug Interdiction Money At Ft Huachuca Get Redirected To Infiltrate Churches By TPUSA Faith

georgewebb.substack.com

Did Trump's Drug Interdiction Money At Ft Huachuca Get Redirected To Infiltrate Churches By TPUSA Faith​

George Webb
Feb 15, 2026

Cassiopaean Session Transcripts Search

cassiopaeatranscripts.org

Q: (Chu) Do we want to ask the main motive?

(Joe) Yeah. Are we correct in assuming that getting rid of Charlie Kirk wasn't the primary motive because of the way that it was done, that it could have been taken out any other more...?

A: Not primarily no.

Q: (L) Was the primary motivation the effect on the psyche of the American people or global people or whatever?

A: Yes

Q: (Joe) One of the effects it seems - it's hard to know for sure, but by anecdotal reports - is that a lot of people have turned back to or rekindled their relationship with Christianity at the church. Was that an intended effect?

A: That is a 4D part.

Q: (L) So 4th density STS want people to get all religious and looshy?

A: Mostly. But be aware that there are also some people that turn to religion and do not become part of the feeding mechanism.

Q: (L) So they're just good Christians and doing the right thing. Because let's face it: Christianity and religions in many respects have a beneficial effect on society if it's done right, right?

A: Yes. But it is so seldom done right.

Q: (L) Okay. So those are a minority.

(Joe) In the last session they said... I think I asked if the program change that was planned to be the assassination of Trump that didn't happen, if they had another one planned, another program change plan? In the last session they said, "upcoming". Was the Charlie Kirk assassination that?

A: Yes

Q: (L) I forgot about that.

(Joe) And also in the last session they said that extra protection had been activated or something for people furthering knowledge. So are we to assume that Charlie Kirk wasn't among those furthering knowledge because he wasn't protected?

A: He might have done so much more and that is part of the motivation for selecting him as a target.

Q: (L) So, well, I guess you know what they just told us a while ago that knowledge protects and they were giving us information that could be protective, and Charlie didn't have that kind of view of the world yet. He was only just really starting, I think, to wake up to what was really going on. I mean, he was a really beautiful, beautiful young man and he was sincere and he was honest and he was principled, which came out from his refusal to be bought out and told what to say and who to have on his show and so forth. And that in and of itself, I think, couldn't be tolerated by those forces. So...

(Joe) For example, Benjamin Netanyahu, was he aware of the plot to kill Charlie?

A: Yes

Q: (Niall) He's read in on these things. And people's instinct was to call him up for it.

(Joe) Yeah, but is there a positive element to this in the sense that a lot of people are becoming more curious?

A: Ultimately, yes indeed!!

Q: (Niall) They've said in the past that a Batman movie that was released in 2012-ish, which had references to the Sandy Hook shooting in the movie, even though it came out beforehand, was an instance of the Cosmic Mind sending many clues ahead of time. With the Charlie Kirk shooting, there's a 1998 Hollywood movie called Snake Eyes that has loads of similarities with the Kirk assassination. Was this another instance of that?

A: Yes there are many such instances.

Q: (Joe) Is Erica Kirk legitimate?

A: A bit shady. Notice her current behavior.

Q: (Joe) Right, but she wasn't part of that or aware of the plot to kill Charlie?

A: No

Q: (L) I mean, are all of y'all kind of keeping an eye on Twitter where they show her repeatedly in different situations? I mean, not just the rally after the death of Charlie, but taking over the whole TPUSA and... I mean, if you're not aware of it, the question is not for you, but my question to all of you is: Can any of you imagine yourself in her situation acting as she is acting? I mean, really try to put yourself in her shoes. Anybody? I guess not. So, I couldn't imagine it.

(Andromeda) No, not at all.

(L) I mean, she's got two little babies and...

(Andromeda) And she's already up puttin' on a show.

(Chu) It goes against her whole spiel about being a quiet wife and all that.

(Joe) Is Kash Patel aware of the truth about Charlie's assassination?

A: Kash is not in the loop.

Q: (Niall) This is what you said earlier.

(L) Did you say that?

(Niall) He said something like that several days ago. He was joking that, oh, here's Kash finding out what the FBI was told, but he's learning like the rest of us what the FBI said.

(Joe) He's on camera going, "Sorry, I can't tell you any of that because they won't let me. They won't give me information." Aren't you the director? "Yeah. I'm kind of new. There's people who've been here for a long time and they kind of run the show and I'm just a noob." [laughter]

(L) Yeah. He got in there and found out that just being the director was... if you don't have the other outside connections, you're never going to get inside. I am sure everybody has seen that happen in the corporate environment or any kind of job where somebody new comes along.

(Niall) Is the governor of Utah in the loop on this issue?

A: Partly.

Q: (L) I guess that's why they did it in that state.

(Niall) It's like Stepford Wives, that area, at least from what Candace is finding. The whole place is like the Latterday Saints, it's the university, it's the CIA. It's this engineering company that everyone either works for or knows someone who works for.

(Joe) It's an old boys club.

(Andromeda) Creepy.

(Joe) So the device that was the manipulated mic on Charlie's shirt, it contained a small amount of explosives like C4?

A: Yes

 

[Arwenn]

The latest from GW

Just a note to be a bit careful about George Webb, it’s debatable just how reliable/trustworthy he is. Niall replied earlier in this thread about him:

There's nothing else to see. There are multiple 'Matt Robinsons' in Utah so it's a case of mistaken identity. One was a retired sheriff, the other runs a kitchen counter-top company.

As for George Webb, we've noted in the past how consistently wrong he is about 'deep politics' and 'psy-ops'.

 

[Ruth]

A lady called Elizabeth Lane believes that Erika Kirk might be a psychopath! Her post was noted by Candace (even though Candace is on holiday for a week, she "re-tweeted" Elizabeth's post on X). "Coach Colin" discusses this:

 

[Ruth]

More conjecture about Erika Kirk. It's getting a little bit crazy. This video implies that their marriage was 'on the rocks'. (video 9.30 minutes).

 

[Ricardo]

On a whim decided to query Mr. Ian Carrol´s Webb App. on TPUSA. Posting results case there´s more to it .

Initial query : Is there any mention of turning point usa or related persons of note therein or associated with such organization (?)

Webb :

I'll investigate mentions of Turning Point USA and related persons in the Epstein documents. Let me start with a broad search and then examine specific connections.

(....)

I see Charlie Kirk appears as a key person. Let me get more intelligence on him

(....)

Charlie Kirk Connections​

Charlie Kirk, president of Turning Point USA, appears in 9 mentions across the documents [entity_intel]. The relationship graph shows him as "president_of, co-founded, founder" of Turning Point USA [traverse_graph].

The most significant context appears in EFTA01660803.pdf, where Charlie Kirk is mentioned in connection with an FBI investigation. The document states: "Democrats sharply criticized his handling of the Charlie Kirk assassination investigation, the firing of senior FBI officials, and the Jeffrey Epstein files" [, ]. This suggests the documents reference Kirk in the context of separate FBI matters being discussed alongside Epstein investigations.

Political Context References​

Several documents mention Turning Point USA in political contexts:

1. Social media controversy: An email thread references a social media storm where a political candidate replied to a tweet from Charlie Kirk comparing Melania Trump's staff numbers to Michelle Obama's [, ].
2. Conservative organization mentions: The documents reference Turning Point USA as a "right-wing youth organization" in email communications [].
3. Event-related mentions: The relationship graph indicates Turning Point USA hosted an event where an altered presidential seal was displayed, with connections to Donald Trump as "event_host" [traverse_graph].

No Direct Epstein Connections Found​

Crucially, I found no evidence in the documents of any direct connections between Turning Point USA, Charlie Kirk, and Jeffrey Epstein's criminal activities. The mentions appear in three distinct contexts:

1. Parallel FBI investigations - Kirk's name appears alongside Epstein files in discussions of FBI oversight
2. Political commentary - References to Turning Point USA's activities and social media presence
3. Event hosting - Mention of an event with an altered presidential seal

What's Missing​

The documents show no evidence of:

• Financial transactions between Epstein and Turning Point USA
• Personal relationships between Epstein/Maxwell and Charlie Kirk
• Any involvement of Turning Point USA in Epstein's criminal enterprise
• Communications between Epstein network and Turning Point USA leadership

The relationship appears to be coincidental mentions in broader political and investigative contexts rather than substantive connections to Epstein's sex trafficking operation

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Second query (prompted by Webb ) : Turning Point USA appears in email threads - who were the senders/recipients and what was the broader context of these communications ?

Webb :

Primary Email Thread: Richard Kahn to Jeffrey Epstein​

The most significant email mentioning Turning Point USA was sent on August 1, 2018 by Richard Kahn to Jeffrey Epstein [, ]. The email had the subject line: "Congressional candidate compares Melania Trump to prostitute" and contained a link to a New York Post article.

Sender/Recipient Details:​

• Sender: Richard Kahn (appears to be an associate of Epstein)
• Recipient: Jeffrey Epstein (jeevacation@gmail.com)
• Date: August 1, 2018, 1:34 PM
• Importance: Marked as "High"

Content Context:​

The email forwarded a news article about Oregon congressional candidate Mark Roberts who caused a social media storm by comparing Melania Trump to a prostitute. The article explains that Roberts sparked controversy by replying to a tweet from Charlie Kirk, president of Turning Point USA [, ].

Key context points:

1. Charlie Kirk's original tweet: Compared Melania Trump's staff numbers (5 staffers) to Michelle Obama's (44 staffers)
2. Mark Roberts' response: "Did you know the First Lady works by the hour?" with hashtags #thinkdirty and #hoebag
3. Political fallout: Roberts was criticized for using "liberal tactics" and damaging his campaign against Republican incumbent Greg Walden

Richard Kahn's Role:​

From other documents,. and had an ongoing email relationship with Epstein [, , ]. One email from 2016 shows someone asking Epstein: "Who is Richard Kahn... the guy that use to work for you....?" [], suggesting he was a former employee or associate.

Other Turning Point USA Mentions​

1. Political News Summary (EFTA00147306.pdf)​

This document mentions Turning Point USA in the context of an altered presidential seal displayed behind President Trump at a Turning Point USA student summit []. The altered seal featured a two-headed eagle resembling the Russian coat of arms and golf clubs instead of arrows.

2. FBI Email (EFTA01656915.pdf)​

An FBI New York Field Office email from September 12, 2025 mentions Charlie Kirk's assassination at Utah Valley University, describing him as a "prominent ally of President Donald Trump and co-founder of Turning Point USA" []. This appears to be a fictional future scenario

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Brave AI search/help summary on Richard Kahn :

Richard Kahn is a significant figure associated with HBRK Associates Inc., where he serves as an accountant. He is notably recognized for his long-term professional relationship with Jeffrey Epstein, acting as his in-house accountant.

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Nothing incriminating per se based on this , that TPUSA had the attention of J.E. network´s is unsurprising imo . But maybe there´s more to it since R. Kahn had a supposedly long association with Epstein, only perhaps it´s not recorded in available emails.