Chinese actor murdered sparks nationwide online outrage - CCP goes full censorship

[seek10]

Is that always the case though? There may not be many counter-examples: Putin seems to be one and even some of the absolute monarchs or Roman emperors appear to have done a good job. Xi Jinping actually does appear to be of a similar caliber as Putin.

The way I see is this : people are people( fickle and mostly selfish) and they are the lowest denomination on this planet - Rulers (elected or not), "bureaucrats", common people, history that sets these in motion. People themselves are split between OP's and souled. Each had thousand I's ( Gurdjieff). The ability of ruler to influence every thing ( aka corruption in this context) despite the level of power is limited. Each ruler has to choose their "battles". They can set some example (or try to influence) and only hope people will follow, while safe guarding their seat.

The strategies rulers follow can be clubbed into some "Ideologies"( collection of thousands methods whose definitions constantly change according to the need). At the end of day, it is people's free will( if they are conscious) decides corruption level. There is a "quality" of the soul that also needs to be considered, though we can know very little about it. Each nation has lot of "baggage" of the past that makes survival, influences from the family and surrounding has its influence.

If we consider 4D STS that won last cycle, their need to have feeding ( loosh from souled) for their survival, makes "suffering" continue to happen and "corruption" happens to be word we chose to use describe these mechanisms used. Those are the limitation of this world. If people get what they want (which is not the case in the East), common man's desire for corruption tend to be less. As we have seen in the West, corruption is less at the lower levels but at higher levels, it is high ( like a perfectly controlled system hiding behind all the 'fine words').

 

[palestine]

I had a look at A. Lobaczewski in order to get knowledge about the CCP.

His basic take would be:

I am a very aged clinical psychologist. Forty years ago I
took part in a secret investigation of the real nature and psy-
chopathology of the macro-social phenomenon called “Com-
munism”. The other researchers were the scientists of the pre-
vious generation who are now passed away.

Communism as "a macrosocial phenomenon".

The profound study of the nature of psychopathy, which
played the essential and inspirational part in this macro-social
psychopathologic phenomenon (...)

It may be clumsy to assert that A. Lobaczewski is qualifying Communism straight as a "macrosocial" AND "a pathological" phenomenon. He seems to say, in the first quote, that "he will study the psychopathology" (of) "the macrosocial phenomenon Communism".

We know by his research that psychopathology is the vector of all troubles. The above quotes would be a perfect example of this approach: a lens going by "let's discern a phenomenon" & "let's discern the pathology".

"Pathology" could be akin to "let's spot an alien STS component sneaking in and doing internal work".

Still, this is not that clear cut. There exists a text, here on the forum, written by A. Lobaczewski, when he visited the Chateau, which says: "... the macrosocial disease Communism".

I am not sure that he splits the pathology from Communism, overall.

A. Lobaczewski's take is that Communism has been created by a schizoïd, so that the "whole" concept is already pathological. It means that Communism is "inherently pathological". We would still be able to split the pathological elements from the sane ideas.

But. A. Lobaczewski says as well:

If there were ever such a thing as a country with a commu-
nist structure as envisaged by Karl Marx, wherein the working
people’s leftist ideology would be the basis for government,
which, I believe, would be stern, but not bereft of healthy hu-
manistic thought, the contemporary social, bio-humanistic, and
medical sciences would be considered valuable and be appro-
priately developed and used for the good of the working peo-
ple. Psychological advice for youth and for persons with vari-
ous personal problems would naturally be the concern of the
authorities and of society as a whole. Seriously ill patients
would have the advantage of correspondingly skillful care.
However, quite the opposite is the case within a pathocratic
structure.

If we look at President Xi, here is what we can read:

Xi Jinping Thought - Wikipedia

Xi Jinping Thought on Socialism with Chinese Characteristics for a New Era, commonly abbreviated outside China as Xi Jinping Thought, is a political doctrine created during General Secretary Xi Jinping's leadership of the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) that combines Chinese Marxism and national rejuvenation. According to the CCP, Xi Jinping Thought "builds on and further enriches" previous party ideologies and has also been called as the "Marxism of contemporary China and of the 21st century".

Eh! This perfectly matches "Marxism". This would attest of the sane version of Communism, as stated by A. Lobaczewski - "it exists".

If we look back at A. Lobaczewski's quote, here is a bit of interest:

However, quite the opposite is the case within a pathocratic
structure.

So he basically says that "there exists a sane version of Marxism" - and that, sometimes, it's unfortunately the very opposite that which happens. I suppose that "the infiltration of alien elements" is what pushes a Communist structure to "an exact counterpart".

The question would be then to know if this happened or not, in China (or, in the opposite, if we are still staring at "the sane Marxist model"). The case of Yu Menlong provides clues, hints and elements potentially attesting of such situation, but let us balance those with the above sane-Marxism hypothesis. We have to be honest and study this along those lines, and, could be, even favour the sane-Marxist scenario. IF the data sufficiently attests of a sufficient degenerated process, inside China, then, we would switch "scenarios".

And so, the unpleasant part for China, elements which could potentially attest of "a contamination from an alien mind":

Xi Jinping Thought - Wikipedia

"First of all: Socialism with Chinese characteristics is socialism, not any other “ism.” The guiding principles of scientific socialism thus cannot be abandoned. Our Party has always emphasized adherence to the basic principles of scientific socialism, but adapted to the particular conditions of China. This means that socialism with Chinese characteristics is socialism, not some other doctrine... It was Marxism-Leninism and Mao Zedong Thought that guided the Chinese people out of the long night and established a New China, and it was socialism with Chinese characteristics that led to the rapid development of China."

Xi encensing Mao Zedong could be considered as a bit "nuts".

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/09/03/asia/xi-putin-chat-immortality-longevity-intl

“In a few years, with the development of biotechnology, human organs can be constantly transplanted so that (people) can live younger and younger, and even become immortal.”

Oh-hoo Chinese are on a quest to immortality. That's the whole Medusa3535 and the whole Lizard's material focus which comes to mind here... Add the following article to it and China goes deep in the ground for the common bloke:

From Yu Menglong to Xiangya: Inside the Organ Harvesting Empire of China’s Elite - Vision Times

evidence and leaked documents from a whistleblower link the prime suspect — Ji Guangguang (alias Li Ming) — to China’s forced organ harvesting network

Ji Guangguang is the grandson of former Premier Li Peng, widely condemned for his role in the 1989 Tiananmen Square Massacre,

Ji allegedly owns multiple high-end apartments in Beijing’s Sunshine Upper East Side residential complex, including Apartment 601 in Building 18, where Yu Menglong was reportedly thrown to his death, as well as Unit 701 in Building 15.

Data collection via the school system

Luo’s files also implicated schools in the organ supply chain. Under the pretense of routine “health screenings,” schools allegedly collected students’ blood types and medical data, later used for potential organ matching. “I never understood why schools were so insistent on free health checks,” one Weibo user wrote. “Now I see — they were grooming data for a darker system.”

With such "readings", a world view will switch to "the certainty that China is doing the process that the C refferred to as body-soul-containers" (etc).

But there may be room for something not dark here. Let us look back at Xi's ideological Communism:

Xi Jinping Thought - Wikipedia

Xi Jinping Thought on Socialism with Chinese Characteristics for a New Era, commonly abbreviated outside China as Xi Jinping Thought, is a political doctrine created during General Secretary Xi Jinping's leadership of the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) that combines Chinese Marxism and national rejuvenation. According to the CCP, Xi Jinping Thought "builds on and further enriches" previous party ideologies and has also been called as the "Marxism of contemporary China and of the 21st century".

What wrong is there in the idea to have a physical science imrpoving aging, via organ harvesting? Somehow, this is technical progress, and organ transplants help people.

IF Xi's China has been remaining absolutely cautious and impartial, a country so wide, dedicating itself to improving aging, would feature a vast structure for it. In addition, Xi's conversation with Putin would be "a sane one". The immortality would be a kind of joke - a hope for citizen and people. Let us not forget how, in the West, we barely reach 70 y.o. and cancer is the name of the game. It has been a while since Western science does not improve the health any more. I mean - big research is not achieving anything substantial. At all.

And so, we would be tempted to conflate "an organ harvesting network" with something neutral.

But - we got glimpses of organ trafficking and borderline scientifical practices, with the case of Yu Menlong. First, it appears that the owner of this appartment complex (and, could be, this specific plastination company) - is "Ji Guangguang":

From Yu Menglong to Xiangya: Inside the Organ Harvesting Empire of China’s Elite - Vision Times

evidence and leaked documents from a whistleblower link the prime suspect — Ji Guangguang (alias Li Ming) — to China’s forced organ harvesting network

Ji Guangguang is the grandson of former Premier Li Peng, widely condemned for his role in the 1989 Tiananmen Square Massacre,

Ji allegedly owns multiple high-end apartments in Beijing’s Sunshine Upper East Side residential complex, including Apartment 601 in Building 18, where Yu Menglong was reportedly thrown to his death, as well as Unit 701 in Building 15.

So, a heir of Mao Zedong - chances are that this guy is a bloody psychopath.

In addition, we got all the Fallun Gong people, a kind of STS sect, building "the opposition". Those can not be the good guys in the equation.

We got, too, the Biden family who did business with some Chinese fellas. Business with Hunter? Well... Chances are that the negative organ business may not be representative of reality, and that it could be tied to a specific entity - in this case, some basic international stuff, unwanted by China, and matching what @seek10 explains.

There are elements that have the ability to split a whole chunk of China's media apparatus in a "bag of villains"... It seems that it is possible. Adding to this that we would indeed have a structure matching "sane-Marxism", as the remainder, would furnish a plausible ground for objective analysis.

I must be absolutely cautious so as not to put China in the wrong bag; there was a plastinated lady, in an expo which toured the world. It seems that this lady was in the midst of a criminal event. She got killed, and "displayed". This is terrific at first glance. But. Was she a criminal, too? Was she a "psychopath"? This would match a basic model of China saying "that's how we treat criminals" / "psychopaths not welcomed". They would have "exported" the idea. I know that this may be too far, but I am exploring various explanations - and it's possible to find some. In the end, it becomes difficult than to say "China-bad", "China-bad-CCP".

I am sorry, long post, and I wanted to try to lay down the main variables that may play objectively out, because we are on the verge of "China bad". There exist elements which attest of the ver yopposite - and it's not good to loose China in our hearts, because of subjectivity.

I would be interested to know, from the C's, if we should focus a bit more on China, or if there is nothing. If they say yes, we would know that there is a danger. Otherwise, it's a wrong lead and China is doing great and this csse ties to "internal opposition to humanity". In this case, the murder of the guy would have been committed by a small organization of individuals who are external to China's ideas of prosperity.

I would say that the case of Yu Menlong hints at:

• undergound torture chambers
• plastination of bodies etc etc organ harvesting
• Biden
• media industry contaminated by negative "Hollywoodian" practices (child abuse etc)

Those variables match "the STS alien mind" and as well what low-level humans sometimes give into, after contact / influence with the alien STS world view. Basically, exploitation of humans. And in this case, it seems possible than to track down this alien mindset to a specific entity: a group of powerful elite Chinese people. A "heir of Mao Zedong", those "media managers". And in addition, we got Biden's USA who did business in China - Was it with those "people"? ((Was this a CIA operation?!))

Idea would be that this represents a restricted alien component, indeed present in China, and trying to grow. We would need to figure out if it did some internal work, too much, and how far it went to, or if it remained restricted and contained. A. Lobaczewski says that normal people are the best antidote to it. Many people say that China is great, flourishing - and so there may exist a counteracting basis. I would tend to see a thwarted alien phenomenon then.

But, who knows? I am trying to remain impartial, and "there is some smoke".

 

[ishiki]

I'm not going to spend too much time on this topic in the future, but the videos I'm watching at the moment come from these YouTube channels:

I don't think you spend too much time on this topic though. Why do you think you do? I am not so sure about Lei. She points out interesting stuff about Xi Jiping and the things that are apparently (according to her) happening behind the scene. For example the idea that the party is devided and that they want to get rid of Xi Jiping and stopping him from fleeing the country by house arresting his wife during his vitits overseas. However it is all heresay and rumour, not saying it isn't true, but not verifible.

I view this case as just one of the many things that are going on in China. Like the factories that are apparently burning all over the country due to upset labourers who don't get paid for months and people that drive into the masses. Also China is doing some weird stuff by poisening their own people by an masse spraying their neibourhoods and food markets and many more stuff is going on there.

I also noticed that China has a very good propaganda machine, I might say even better than the western world, due to the fact that they closed off the internet for foreigners and Chinese alike. For example they made a video go viral of supposedly a fully automated port, but it seemed that they stole the images from a port in the USA. I find China scary as hell, a perfect blueprint for a totalitarian surveillance state.

 

[Elisasheva]

I think that a lot of dark, horrible things are happening in the countries on one (western) side and equally twisted things are happening on the opposite, let's call it eastern side. And those forces are fighting each other for power, using mass media to paint themselves as saints and the other side as the bad guys. The west has more power when it comes to contrilling the global media, so they can use everything that leaks against their opponent. And that's probably what happened in this case. Maybe all videos with screams are fake, but there are other videos where Yu was visibly distressed and acted weird, spooked. It just breaks my heart, and knowing how chinese/korean entertainment industry operates I actually believe it's entirely possible that they mistreated him. Even if they didn't kill him, maybe he comitted suicide because he had enough? Also, if they didn't kill his dogs, what happened to them, where are they now? Those media agencies need to be investigated and cleared from psychopatic people.

It's obvious that this case should be investigated by CCP and those people need to be held accountable. I just don't believe they will do it, probably for many reasons, and it will only backfire on chinese gov. More arguments against them, even if they aren't accompliences and it happened somewhere muuch lower in ranks. It's just that so many things are weird in this case, too much connections, too much death of other artists, and too much cover up. If people demand justice, it will only harm the Xi's position, and it definitely is very geopolitical.

 

[Keit]

What's being said in the 2nd video listed is that he was taken from his apartment, brought to the Bulhari Hotel's spa area. That's where the torture took place. Later, the group transferred him to Jiangsu Zhouge Technology Company to continue the torture (he was half dead by then). They then transported him to the Sunshine Upper East Community to create the illusion of falling.

The problem is that all of the above is largely unsubstantiated, and it's not possible to know for sure what exactly was lost in translation or twisted in the process of copy pasting from various sources, or not researched thoroughly.

It's strange how quickly the data was compiled into an extremely detailed timeline. And since then we only get more and more details. More names, connections that grow like hydra, with a direct connection to Xi jinping and child sacrifices by CCP.

This story has been shared on the following sources:

The Chinese Public Is Obsessing Over a Perceived Celebrity Cover-Up

The death of actor Yu Menglong has started a cycle of censorship and rumor.

foreignpolicy.com

Was Yu Menglong sacrificed? Shocking ritual claims link Xi Jinping to Chinese actor’s mysterious death

Explosive claims are swirling around the mysterious death of Chinese actor Yu Menglong. Self-media author Edward Wenming insists it was no accident but a dark ritual sacrifice. According to ‘Youliao, Yu was a ‘substitute victim. This chilling theory ties into rumors of annual child sacrifices...

economictimes.indiatimes.com

The second source mentions "self-media author" Edward Wenming. It's a guy who has a YT channel about all kind of scandals and secrets of CCP. And he is the one who shared about the alleged connection between Yu Menglong's death and CCP, because supposedly he and Xi jinping have the same birthday.

There are also curious things like the following from this video. The bellow video mentions that all kind of information supposedly comes from a whistleblower named LaoDeng. And it's funny, because apparently LaoDeng is a new slang word (actually starting from September) for "middle-aged or older men who are successful but seen as arrogant and disconnected from reality". Interesting name for a whistleblower. The rest of the video has an exact feel like the kind of stuff Navalny and co. were doing about things that happened in Russia.

Or we have "information" like this one that is being shared on the actor's page. So you can see that the paid anti-China "freedom warriors" are hard at work.

The next one is really funny. Yeah right, FBI is looking into the murder of a Chinese citizen. They could at least use a name of a more appropriate agency.

My guess is that something horrible did happen, and there are opportunistic people using it for geopolitical purposes.

I am not saying that his death wasn't suspicious. It's quite possible that it wasn't a suicide, and some sort of crime and then cover-up happened. Even if we dismiss all the videos and recordings (that can easily be faked), there are still some details that at least were supposed to lead to a more through police investigation.

It's very possible that it has to do with his agency, money laundering, or something similar to what was being shared on Chinese networks at the very beginning, sans the fake videos or recordings that were proven as fake.

Despite all that, it is still largely China's internal matter that should have remained like this. Even if the actor was also famous abroad. But it quickly transformed into an international matter. And it became like this because it was an intentional push by all the anti-China content creators (within China and outside). Obviously Chinese authorities are also "to blame" because of all the censoring and posts deleting.

But this is something they have always done. This time there is an interest not to let it slide, and there is an intentional push to make it into a bigger issue that "hopefully" (for whoever is behind it) will lead to some sort of unrest or instability in China. Or at least harm its financial interests abroad in some way.

It's possible to see by all the "ban cdramas" cries in the comments, and selling cdramas to various Western streaming services (like Netflix) is a very lucrative business for China.

@Keit I just found another odd coincidence... Do you know anyone else on the forum who could make sense of this?

Well, beside these two events there were also others that could have greater connection to each other. Considering all the other events mentioned below, Yu Menglong's death could be an example of a negative/chaotic energy present on that day. It was also during the time of an "eclipse corridor". It's not possible to speculate if it was more than that, like a marker or turn of events of sorts, without knowing if it was indeed not a suicide. But it may be considered as such if whoever is behind the anti-China push will succeed to shake things hard enough. Maybe it can also be seen as a symbolic representation of the increased unrest or social divide in China and beyond, just like it happened in US after Kirk's death. Don't know.

Were the same people behind both deaths? Could Israel have commissioned the murder of this Actor for geopolitical purposes?
Are there any ritualistic meaning behind the date and time?

Not sure why would Israel be connected to this in any way. I also don't think that there is any "geopolitical" reason for Yu Menglong's death, if it wasn't a suicide.

It's what is happening now, particularly in the West, that makes it suspicious. His death is being used to drive and increase the anti-China sentiment.

But this task is probably not going to be an easy one. Especially considering the following. I saw it today on one of Russian Telegram channels.

Ironically, a Chinese factory reportedly sold over 100,000 "Boycott China" T-shirts and caps to US buyers. The products, manufactured in China, were sold by American vendors promoting anti-Chinese sentiment. This demonstrates how global supply chains transcend politics: China's low manufacturing costs allow it to play a central role in global trade, even for anti-Chinese goods, turning political protests into profitable businesses.

 

[meadow_wind]

So China is making money no matter the opportunity! omg, that's a funny one.

Ok so, there have been many noticeable events happening on the 10th of Sept, but only 2 murders, and both went viral.

The reason I asked about Israel being involved in his murder was that maybe they profit (could be money, or could be other things) from creating unrest between China and the rest of the world.

Indeed it's hard, if not impossible, to differentiate what's from a genuine source and what's parroted. I would tend to trust the videos where the blogger/speaker is bilingual (Mandarin-English) rather than the ones that are not. But any monetized channels might aim for the clicks rather than the truth...