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Q: (T) Several sessions back when we were discussing “Perpendicular Realities” you were talking about something that happened to me and that I had to look back over my life and analyze my relationships with other people from a certain point up until now and you said that this was a perpendicular reality. What is the definition of a perpendicular reality? A: The perpendicular reality primarily, though not exclusively, refers to one’s life path and how one’s life path fits together in the cycle or in a wheel when connected with those of a similar life path. And, oddly enough, relates very closely to the previous question involving synchronicity. If you can picture an inlaid wheel formed by a circle within a circle, and adjoining partitions in a perfect balance, that would be the best representation of perpendicular reality for it does not completely involve one individual’s experience, but rather a group of individual’s experience for the progression of a greater purpose, if you understand what we mean. This is what we mean when we say: perpendicular reality. Picture again, a circle within a circle adjoined by equally spaced partitions in a perfect cycle. That is perpendicular reality. Q: (T) You had us draw this symbol and put seven spokes or partitions between the two circles. A: Correct. Q: (T) Is seven the optimal number? A: Seven is always the optimal number. There are seven levels of density. This reflects through all phases of reality.
Now, we wish to return to the visual representation as mentioned previously. If you notice the core circle connects with all seven sections to the outer circle. Now, picture that outer circle as being an ever expanding circle, and each one of the seven segments as being an ever expanding line. Of course, now, this will expand outward in a circular or cyclical pattern. Please picture visually an expanding outer circle and a non- expanding inner circle. Contemplate that and then please give us your feelings as to what that represents. Q: (L) Does it represent an expansion of our knowledge and consciousness? A: That’s part of it. Q: (L) Does it represent also expanding influence of what and who we are on that which is around us? A: That is correct. Q: (L) Does it also represent a more… A: Oops! We detected a slippage of your visual representation! Contemplate, if you will, the ever- expanding outer circle and the non- expanding inner circle, and, of course, the seven partitions also moving outwardly. What type of shape does that form in your mind’s eye? Q: (L) A wheel? A: Is that all? Q: (T) A pie? A: Keep going. Q: (L) An eye. A: Now we are starting to turn it into a sphere! Why would it turn into a sphere? Q: (L) How can it turn into a sphere? A: How can it not! Q: (SV) It is going in ALL directions, not just flat… A: Is a straight line a straight line or a… Q: (L) Oh, you’re not talking about a circle? A: We are talking about a circle. What becomes of a circle if you expand it outward forever? Q: (J) It disappears. A: It disappears? How can it disappear? Where does it disappear to? We ask you that, Jan? Jan? Q: (J) Visually, as the outer circle expands, the inner circle becomes smaller and smaller until it disappears. As you continue to expand out with the outer circle, the inner circle disappears. A: But where does it disappear to? Q: (J) A black hole? A: A black hole. Well, that’s a possibility. But, we really didn’t want you to concentrate so heavily on the smaller circle, now did we? It’s the outer circle. Q: (T) The outer circle is used to encompass more and more. A: And what shape does it begin to take on? I want you to look at this outer circle expanding outward! Q: (J) Are we to assume that the seven spokes remain the same size in relation to the circle? A: Well, answer that question for yourself. Q: (L) Okay, we are looking at it as a plane representation. As a flat surface. A: Well, what happens to a flat surface if you extend it outward forever? Q: (L) Well, we don’t know. That, that… (SV) It keeps on going. A: It keeps on going? Q: (L) Yeah, bigger and flatter! A: It does? What happens to a line if you extend it forever and ever? Q: (Laura and Susan) It keeps on going. A: It does? Q: (L) Um hmmm! A: Where does it go to? Q: (SV) Forever. (J) Back to itself. (L) We don’t know that. A: Oh, someone said “Back to itself.” Q: (J) Like a snake taking hold of its own tail. A: Why don’t we know that? Q: (L) Because we don’t. It is conjectured that space is curved… A: “Because we don’t know. Now, why don’t we know?
of course Columbus had an idea that there was something but he hadn’t been there, no. But he went and checked it out. A: Did he have just an idea? Q: (L) Well, pretty much, I guess. A: Hmmm. That’s not the way we remember it. The way we remember it is that he had instinct and imagination and when he married his instinct with imagination, it became reality.
3.32 June 17, 1995
[here they have a lengthy talk about what a circle with seven spokes represents...]
We have told you so many times that everything is a grand cycle. If it’s a grand cycle, we have told you about circles within circles. We have told you about cycles. We have told you about short wave cycles and long wave cycles. Now, after all this information that you have asked of us, which we have more than happily given to you, would you expect that a straight line would just go out forever and ever and ever as a straight line? How could it possibly do that? What happens if you take, on your third density earth, and you draw a straight line to the East or to the West or to the North or to the South…
Well, if you expand the circle outward and continue expanding it in all directions, it pulls the seven spokes with it which encompasses more and more space in a cross section, and then turn that circle, you have a sphere. A: Precisely. But Laura says that means we are living in a big globe. And, maybe we are. Q: (T) Well, it wouldn’t be a big globe, so to speak, it would only be a big globe within the circle. If the circle continues to expand, it would just continue to go outward and outward and the globe would become bigger and bigger and bigger… (L) You’re making me nervous… (T) But it goes outward forever… cause there is no end to going out… A: There isn’t? Q: (SV) Nope. A: Well, then maybe there’s no beginning. Q: (T) Well, there wouldn’t be a beginning, just a big, open void. An infinite void… A: If there’s no end and no beginning, then what do you have? Q: (L) No point. (J) The here and now. A: The here and now which is also the future and the past. Everything that was, is and will be, all at once. This is why only a very few of your third density persons have been able to understand space travel, because even though traveling into space in your third density is every bit as third density as lying on your bed at night in your comfortable home, the time reference is taken away. Something that you hold very close to your bosom as if it were your mother. And, it is the biggest illusion that you have. We have repeatedly told you over and over that there is no time, and yet, of course, you have been so brainwashed into this concept that you cannot get rid of it no matter what you do, now can you? Imagine going out into space. You’d be lost when confronted with reality that everything is completely all at one? Would you not? Picture yourself floating around in space!
Does the sphere keep expanding… as the circle expands and you turn the circle 180 ’, you get a sphere. As the sphere continues to expand it, you take a point on the outer edge of the sphere in order to take the sphere about itself, you get a donut, an ever expanding inner tube. (L) With a black hole in the middle! (SV) Why does it have to be a black hole? (J) It’s a spiral. (T) If you take that and twist it, you get an even larger inner tube. It just continues to expand and encompasses more space…
we talked about the fact that at the constant of light there is no time, there is no matter, there is no gravity, but that any unit, infinitesimally small to the downward side of the constant of light, suddenly there is gravity and suddenly there is matter. And we asked what is it that congeals this matter out of the energy of light, so to speak, and I believe that the answer we received was that it was consciousness from 7th level. From our perspective, would it be possible to achieve this constant and move through to the other side of it, or at least stay fixed with it, without de- materializing? Is the speed of light interconnected with the state of no time and no gravity? A: No in an absolute sense, in a third density sense. Q: (L) Okay, if you are in fourth density, for example, does everything move at the speed of light and is that why there is no time there and no gravity? A: No. That is an incorrect concept… [( T) There is no speed of light, light is everywhere.] Precisely. There is no speed of light in fourth density because there is no need for any “speed.” Speed, itself, is a third density concept. You remember, all there is is lessons. That’s it!
A: Yes, but you are asking about the speed of light as relates to fourth density and above density levels and we are telling you that there is no speed of light there because there is no need for that, because once you reach fourth density level, you have learned the lessons of third density level.
Q: (T) The subconscious mind has no idea of time. (J) Time is an artificial constraint… (L) For example: a person can have a belief about prosperity in their conscious mind and can talk about it and say affirmations and all kinds of positive things for themselves, and yet, for some reason that individual continually lives on the edge of poverty because something keeps happening that they keep screwing up to keep themselves at the level of poverty. And, when you start digging around in their subconscious mind you find out that somewhere there is the belief in poverty or there is a past life connection where they feel they need or deserve to be poor, so, their internal operating system takes precedence over their conscious beliefs and thoughts. That is what I am talking about here. A: Yes, but what is your point.
Q: (L) Because I am curious. What is time? A: We have already told you that it is a non- existent, artificial creation of illusion for the point of learning at the level where you are at or were, and once you have left that level, you no longer need it.
A: Imagine a conversation between two people: Billy and Gene. Billy says to Gene, “There is no such thing as time.” Gene says, “Oh, really? But I want to know what it is.” Billy says, “But I just told you there is no such thing. Time does not exist. It is not real in any form, in any frame of reference, in any form of reality, any level of density. It simply does not exist.” And, Gene says: “Oh, that’s interesting. Now, again, what is this time?”
we want to remind you again not to worry about the extent of the progress or the direction it is taking. Just let it happen.
A: Picture it this way: we will access some of your memory banks and give you another reference which, interestingly enough, fits very closely with the perpendicular reality wheel that we described earlier. You know what a slide projector looks like? To give you some feeling of what this expanded nature of reality really is, picture yourself watching a big slide presentation with a big slide wheel on the projector. At any given point along the way you are watching one particular slide. But, all the rest of the slides are present on the wheel, are they not? And, of course, this fits in with the perpendicular reality, which fits in with the circles within circles and cycles within cycles, which also fits in the Grand Cycle, which also fits in with what we have told you before: All there is is lessons. That’s all there is and we ask that you enjoy them as you are watching the slide presentation… Q: (J) In that analogy, the light that shines through the slide, as it projects it upon the screen, is our perception? A: And, if you look back at the center of the projector, you see the origin and essence of all creation itself, which, is level seven where you are in union with the One.
I know that we have been told that they come from sixth density, but I would like to know the exact mode or mechanism by which they are made. Is it like electromagnetic imprinting, is it like a whirlwind. Can you tell us a little bit about how they are actually physically created? A: Field transfer. Q: (L) What kind of field? A: Magnetic. Q: (L) Are they transferred directly from sixth density to third density? A: No. Q: (L) Are they manifested by an object that has come into third density, such as a craft of some sort? A: No. Q: (L) Can you give us a clue here? A: We can give “clue.” Q: (L) Okay, what is the clue? A: See Hoagland. Q: (L) What does Hoagland say? (T) He says that basically what we see in this density is a 3rd dimension reflection of 4th dimension and that it can be seen mathematically by looking at the cloud patterns on the different planets. If there was not another dimension above us, circular would be circular and the circular motion of the clouds would be maintained, but if it is a transfer from fourth density to third density, when you are looking at a fourth density object, what the third density version of it would look like would show a hexagonal figure with angles to it, and that the photographs from the Voyager Probe that show that the cloud patterns from the North and South poles of most of the planets are not circular, they are hexagonal. (L) Okay, in sixth density, what are crop circles? A: Thoughts.
What did they tell us before about the speed of light? That the speed of light is a “time” measurement and time only exists in our illusion,
they also have the capability of manipulating our soul essences after they have left our bodies during the transition to fifth density? A: Not correct. Q: (L) They do not? A: No, you see when your physical body expires, and you enter fifth density, this is done one way and one way only: by passing through a conduit which opens specifically for the purpose of transference from third density to fifth density. Now, something often referred to in your terminology as a silver thread, is like a closed line which opens when this conduit is needed. That’s rather awkward, but it’s the only way to describe it. So that when the physical body terminates, this line is opened forming a conduit through which the soul passes naturally. However, part of the existence of this conduit is that it is absolutely impenetrable by any force from any density level. Therefore, souls in the process of transferring from third density to fifth density are not in any way able to be molested or tampered with. And it should be mentioned here, also, that the soul imprint of the physical body always has a connection to fifth density and that is through the so- called “silver thread.” That always exists as the third density soul’s doorway to fifth density. It can be opened at a moment’s notice whenever needed. When it is opened it becomes a conduit. Through that conduit the soul passes. And it is not subject to interference by anything. This is not a deliberate construction, it is merely the natural process similar to what could be described as the protection mechanisms existing on second level density for creatures which are not capable of protecting themselves through their own conscious thought processes. For example, your turtle is contained within a shell that protects it. That shell is impenetrable by any natural forces, therefore nothing that is natural can harm that turtle. However, the same can exist for any creature when it is connected by the silver thread to fifth density. Once it is passing through the conduit produced by the opening of the silver thread, then, of course, it cannot be tampered with.
once the soul leaves the confines of the physical body, the illusion of time passage is no longer apparent even when the soul remains on the third density plane. Therefore, it appears to that soul that no time whatsoever has passed.
Thoughts are the basis of all creation. After all, without thought nothing would exist.
most all power necessary for altering reality and physicality is contained within the belief center of the mind. This is something you will understand more closely when you reach 4th density reality where physicality is no longer a prison, but is instead, your home, for you to alter as you please. In your current state, you have the misinterpretation of believing that reality is finite and therein lies your difficulty with finite physical existence.
when 4th density beings visit 3rd density environment, they are, in effect, 3rd density beings, and vice versa. The so- called abduction takes place, especially if it is a physical abduction, the subject becomes temporarily 4th density, because it is the environment that counts. And the key factor there is awareness, not physical or material structure.
Well, if the Grays are cyber- genetic probes of the Lizard Beings, and, in effect soulless, does this mean that some of the Lizard beings are also STO? A: Well, first, no being that is given intelligence to think on its own is, in fact, completely soul- less. It does have some soul imprint; or what could be loosely referred to as soul imprint. This may be a collection of psychic energies that are available in the general vicinity. And this is stretching somewhat so that you can understand the basic ideas, even though in reality it is all far more complex than that. But, in any case, there is really no such thing as being completely soul- less, whether it be a natural intelligence or an artificially constructed intelligence. And, one of the very most interesting things about that from your perspective, is that your technology on 3rd density, which we might add, has been aided somewhat by interactions with those that you might refer to as “aliens,” is now reaching a level whereby the artificially created intelligences can, in fact, begin to develop, or attract some soul imprint energy. If you follow what we are saying. For example: your computers, which are now on the verge of reaching the level whereby they can think by themselves, will begin to develop faint soul imprint.
if you knew the TRUE nature of the universe, of All of the universe, of all possible realms, you would also know that any and all things are possible, and, in fact, DO exist! You must NOT forget this. Q: (L) So, in other words, these people are right? A: All of these people are right, and all of these people are wrong.
What creates this environment of limitation? A: It is the grand illusion which is there for the purpose of learning. Q: (L) And who put the illusion into place? A: The Creator who is also the Created. Which is also you and us and all. As we have told you, we are you and vice versa. And so is everything else. Q: (L) Is the key that it is all illusion? A: Basically, yes.
A: As we have told you before, if you will be patient just a moment, the universe is merely a school. And, a school is there for all to learn. That is why everything exists. There is no other reason. Now, if only you understood the true depth of that statement, you would begin to start to see, and experience for yourself, all the levels of density that it is possible to experience, all the dimensions that it is possible to experience, all awareness. When an individual understands that statement to its greatest possible depth, that individual becomes illumined. And, certainly you have heard of that. And, for one moment, which lasts for all eternity, that individual knows absolutely everything that there is to know. Q: (L) So, you are saying that the path to illumination is knowledge and not love? A: That is correct.
When you begin to separate limiting emotions based on assumptions from emotions that open one to unlimited possibilities, that means you are preparing for the next density.
Here comes a shocker for you… one day, in 4th density, it will be your descendants mission to carry on the tradition and assignment of seeding the 3rd density universe, once you have the adequate knowledge!!!
the region known as Orion that is the one and only indigenous home of human type beings…
Pay attention to Orion! This is your ancestral home, and your eventual destination. Here is the absolutely accurately accurate profile of Orion to follow: This is the most heavily populated region of your Milky Way galaxy!
Are the Orion STS the infamous red- headed Nordic aliens? A: Yes, and all other humanoid combinations.
What is there about strength that makes one inaccessible to permanent abduction? A: Strength is of character, i.e. if STO candidate, not likely to be victim.
Is there a Hell? A: No.
Why do you suppose there are roads around Dulce NM where people have become confused when traveling on them? Because the 4th density vibrational frequency emanating from the nearby base more and more frequently resonates on surface. Q: (L) OK, continue. A: Then going to 4th density: road seems straight as seen in 4th density, when curved in 3rd. Q: (J) It seems straight when seen in 4th, but it’s actually curved in 3rd? (SV) In other words, accidents! (J) It changes configuration from 3rd to 4th! (T) When people drive those roads out there, as the fourth density seeps out through, and is seeping out farther and farther, they become confused because they’re moving between 3rd and 4th. As the road curves in 3rd, and the car, which is in 3rd, should be curving with the road, the driver sees the road as straight, and drives off the road, because he’s confused by what he sees. A: Exactly. Q: (J) It’s all about perception! (T) Now, we’re back to perception of reality! A: In 4th, you see full circle from any vantage point.
[A depiction of what's like going to 4th dimension]
A: Picture driving down a highway, suddenly you notice auras surrounding everything…. Being able to see around corners, going inside little cottages which become mansions, when viewed from inside… Going inside a building in Albuquerque and going out the back door into Las Vegas, going to sleep as a female, and waking up male… Flying in a plane for half an hour and landing at the same place 5 weeks later…
there may be some people on the planet, because of their fixity of will, and perception, at third density, who will not perceive anything change? Is that correct? A: No.
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Q: (T) Several sessions back when we were discussing “Perpendicular Realities” you were talking about something that happened to me and that I had to look back over my life and analyze my relationships with other people from a certain point up until now and you said that this was a perpendicular reality. What is the definition of a perpendicular reality? A: The perpendicular reality primarily, though not exclusively, refers to one’s life path and how one’s life path fits together in the cycle or in a wheel when connected with those of a similar life path. And, oddly enough, relates very closely to the previous question involving synchronicity. If you can picture an inlaid wheel formed by a circle within a circle, and adjoining partitions in a perfect balance, that would be the best representation of perpendicular reality for it does not completely involve one individual’s experience, but rather a group of individual’s experience for the progression of a greater purpose, if you understand what we mean. This is what we mean when we say: perpendicular reality. Picture again, a circle within a circle adjoined by equally spaced partitions in a perfect cycle. That is perpendicular reality. Q: (T) You had us draw this symbol and put seven spokes or partitions between the two circles. A: Correct. Q: (T) Is seven the optimal number? A: Seven is always the optimal number. There are seven levels of density. This reflects through all phases of reality.
Now, we wish to return to the visual representation as mentioned previously. If you notice the core circle connects with all seven sections to the outer circle. Now, picture that outer circle as being an ever expanding circle, and each one of the seven segments as being an ever expanding line. Of course, now, this will expand outward in a circular or cyclical pattern. Please picture visually an expanding outer circle and a non- expanding inner circle. Contemplate that and then please give us your feelings as to what that represents. Q: (L) Does it represent an expansion of our knowledge and consciousness? A: That’s part of it. Q: (L) Does it represent also expanding influence of what and who we are on that which is around us? A: That is correct. Q: (L) Does it also represent a more… A: Oops! We detected a slippage of your visual representation! Contemplate, if you will, the ever- expanding outer circle and the non- expanding inner circle, and, of course, the seven partitions also moving outwardly. What type of shape does that form in your mind’s eye? Q: (L) A wheel? A: Is that all? Q: (T) A pie? A: Keep going. Q: (L) An eye. A: Now we are starting to turn it into a sphere! Why would it turn into a sphere? Q: (L) How can it turn into a sphere? A: How can it not! Q: (SV) It is going in ALL directions, not just flat… A: Is a straight line a straight line or a… Q: (L) Oh, you’re not talking about a circle? A: We are talking about a circle. What becomes of a circle if you expand it outward forever? Q: (J) It disappears. A: It disappears? How can it disappear? Where does it disappear to? We ask you that, Jan? Jan? Q: (J) Visually, as the outer circle expands, the inner circle becomes smaller and smaller until it disappears. As you continue to expand out with the outer circle, the inner circle disappears. A: But where does it disappear to? Q: (J) A black hole? A: A black hole. Well, that’s a possibility. But, we really didn’t want you to concentrate so heavily on the smaller circle, now did we? It’s the outer circle. Q: (T) The outer circle is used to encompass more and more. A: And what shape does it begin to take on? I want you to look at this outer circle expanding outward! Q: (J) Are we to assume that the seven spokes remain the same size in relation to the circle? A: Well, answer that question for yourself. Q: (L) Okay, we are looking at it as a plane representation. As a flat surface. A: Well, what happens to a flat surface if you extend it outward forever? Q: (L) Well, we don’t know. That, that… (SV) It keeps on going. A: It keeps on going? Q: (L) Yeah, bigger and flatter! A: It does? What happens to a line if you extend it forever and ever? Q: (Laura and Susan) It keeps on going. A: It does? Q: (L) Um hmmm! A: Where does it go to? Q: (SV) Forever. (J) Back to itself. (L) We don’t know that. A: Oh, someone said “Back to itself.” Q: (J) Like a snake taking hold of its own tail. A: Why don’t we know that? Q: (L) Because we don’t. It is conjectured that space is curved… A: “Because we don’t know. Now, why don’t we know?
of course Columbus had an idea that there was something but he hadn’t been there, no. But he went and checked it out. A: Did he have just an idea? Q: (L) Well, pretty much, I guess. A: Hmmm. That’s not the way we remember it. The way we remember it is that he had instinct and imagination and when he married his instinct with imagination, it became reality.
3.32 June 17, 1995
[here they have a lengthy talk about what a circle with seven spokes represents...]
We have told you so many times that everything is a grand cycle. If it’s a grand cycle, we have told you about circles within circles. We have told you about cycles. We have told you about short wave cycles and long wave cycles. Now, after all this information that you have asked of us, which we have more than happily given to you, would you expect that a straight line would just go out forever and ever and ever as a straight line? How could it possibly do that? What happens if you take, on your third density earth, and you draw a straight line to the East or to the West or to the North or to the South…
Well, if you expand the circle outward and continue expanding it in all directions, it pulls the seven spokes with it which encompasses more and more space in a cross section, and then turn that circle, you have a sphere. A: Precisely. But Laura says that means we are living in a big globe. And, maybe we are. Q: (T) Well, it wouldn’t be a big globe, so to speak, it would only be a big globe within the circle. If the circle continues to expand, it would just continue to go outward and outward and the globe would become bigger and bigger and bigger… (L) You’re making me nervous… (T) But it goes outward forever… cause there is no end to going out… A: There isn’t? Q: (SV) Nope. A: Well, then maybe there’s no beginning. Q: (T) Well, there wouldn’t be a beginning, just a big, open void. An infinite void… A: If there’s no end and no beginning, then what do you have? Q: (L) No point. (J) The here and now. A: The here and now which is also the future and the past. Everything that was, is and will be, all at once. This is why only a very few of your third density persons have been able to understand space travel, because even though traveling into space in your third density is every bit as third density as lying on your bed at night in your comfortable home, the time reference is taken away. Something that you hold very close to your bosom as if it were your mother. And, it is the biggest illusion that you have. We have repeatedly told you over and over that there is no time, and yet, of course, you have been so brainwashed into this concept that you cannot get rid of it no matter what you do, now can you? Imagine going out into space. You’d be lost when confronted with reality that everything is completely all at one? Would you not? Picture yourself floating around in space!
Does the sphere keep expanding… as the circle expands and you turn the circle 180 ’, you get a sphere. As the sphere continues to expand it, you take a point on the outer edge of the sphere in order to take the sphere about itself, you get a donut, an ever expanding inner tube. (L) With a black hole in the middle! (SV) Why does it have to be a black hole? (J) It’s a spiral. (T) If you take that and twist it, you get an even larger inner tube. It just continues to expand and encompasses more space…
we talked about the fact that at the constant of light there is no time, there is no matter, there is no gravity, but that any unit, infinitesimally small to the downward side of the constant of light, suddenly there is gravity and suddenly there is matter. And we asked what is it that congeals this matter out of the energy of light, so to speak, and I believe that the answer we received was that it was consciousness from 7th level. From our perspective, would it be possible to achieve this constant and move through to the other side of it, or at least stay fixed with it, without de- materializing? Is the speed of light interconnected with the state of no time and no gravity? A: No in an absolute sense, in a third density sense. Q: (L) Okay, if you are in fourth density, for example, does everything move at the speed of light and is that why there is no time there and no gravity? A: No. That is an incorrect concept… [( T) There is no speed of light, light is everywhere.] Precisely. There is no speed of light in fourth density because there is no need for any “speed.” Speed, itself, is a third density concept. You remember, all there is is lessons. That’s it!
A: Yes, but you are asking about the speed of light as relates to fourth density and above density levels and we are telling you that there is no speed of light there because there is no need for that, because once you reach fourth density level, you have learned the lessons of third density level.
Q: (T) The subconscious mind has no idea of time. (J) Time is an artificial constraint… (L) For example: a person can have a belief about prosperity in their conscious mind and can talk about it and say affirmations and all kinds of positive things for themselves, and yet, for some reason that individual continually lives on the edge of poverty because something keeps happening that they keep screwing up to keep themselves at the level of poverty. And, when you start digging around in their subconscious mind you find out that somewhere there is the belief in poverty or there is a past life connection where they feel they need or deserve to be poor, so, their internal operating system takes precedence over their conscious beliefs and thoughts. That is what I am talking about here. A: Yes, but what is your point.
Q: (L) Because I am curious. What is time? A: We have already told you that it is a non- existent, artificial creation of illusion for the point of learning at the level where you are at or were, and once you have left that level, you no longer need it.
A: Imagine a conversation between two people: Billy and Gene. Billy says to Gene, “There is no such thing as time.” Gene says, “Oh, really? But I want to know what it is.” Billy says, “But I just told you there is no such thing. Time does not exist. It is not real in any form, in any frame of reference, in any form of reality, any level of density. It simply does not exist.” And, Gene says: “Oh, that’s interesting. Now, again, what is this time?”
we want to remind you again not to worry about the extent of the progress or the direction it is taking. Just let it happen.
A: Picture it this way: we will access some of your memory banks and give you another reference which, interestingly enough, fits very closely with the perpendicular reality wheel that we described earlier. You know what a slide projector looks like? To give you some feeling of what this expanded nature of reality really is, picture yourself watching a big slide presentation with a big slide wheel on the projector. At any given point along the way you are watching one particular slide. But, all the rest of the slides are present on the wheel, are they not? And, of course, this fits in with the perpendicular reality, which fits in with the circles within circles and cycles within cycles, which also fits in the Grand Cycle, which also fits in with what we have told you before: All there is is lessons. That’s all there is and we ask that you enjoy them as you are watching the slide presentation… Q: (J) In that analogy, the light that shines through the slide, as it projects it upon the screen, is our perception? A: And, if you look back at the center of the projector, you see the origin and essence of all creation itself, which, is level seven where you are in union with the One.
I know that we have been told that they come from sixth density, but I would like to know the exact mode or mechanism by which they are made. Is it like electromagnetic imprinting, is it like a whirlwind. Can you tell us a little bit about how they are actually physically created? A: Field transfer. Q: (L) What kind of field? A: Magnetic. Q: (L) Are they transferred directly from sixth density to third density? A: No. Q: (L) Are they manifested by an object that has come into third density, such as a craft of some sort? A: No. Q: (L) Can you give us a clue here? A: We can give “clue.” Q: (L) Okay, what is the clue? A: See Hoagland. Q: (L) What does Hoagland say? (T) He says that basically what we see in this density is a 3rd dimension reflection of 4th dimension and that it can be seen mathematically by looking at the cloud patterns on the different planets. If there was not another dimension above us, circular would be circular and the circular motion of the clouds would be maintained, but if it is a transfer from fourth density to third density, when you are looking at a fourth density object, what the third density version of it would look like would show a hexagonal figure with angles to it, and that the photographs from the Voyager Probe that show that the cloud patterns from the North and South poles of most of the planets are not circular, they are hexagonal. (L) Okay, in sixth density, what are crop circles? A: Thoughts.
What did they tell us before about the speed of light? That the speed of light is a “time” measurement and time only exists in our illusion,
they also have the capability of manipulating our soul essences after they have left our bodies during the transition to fifth density? A: Not correct. Q: (L) They do not? A: No, you see when your physical body expires, and you enter fifth density, this is done one way and one way only: by passing through a conduit which opens specifically for the purpose of transference from third density to fifth density. Now, something often referred to in your terminology as a silver thread, is like a closed line which opens when this conduit is needed. That’s rather awkward, but it’s the only way to describe it. So that when the physical body terminates, this line is opened forming a conduit through which the soul passes naturally. However, part of the existence of this conduit is that it is absolutely impenetrable by any force from any density level. Therefore, souls in the process of transferring from third density to fifth density are not in any way able to be molested or tampered with. And it should be mentioned here, also, that the soul imprint of the physical body always has a connection to fifth density and that is through the so- called “silver thread.” That always exists as the third density soul’s doorway to fifth density. It can be opened at a moment’s notice whenever needed. When it is opened it becomes a conduit. Through that conduit the soul passes. And it is not subject to interference by anything. This is not a deliberate construction, it is merely the natural process similar to what could be described as the protection mechanisms existing on second level density for creatures which are not capable of protecting themselves through their own conscious thought processes. For example, your turtle is contained within a shell that protects it. That shell is impenetrable by any natural forces, therefore nothing that is natural can harm that turtle. However, the same can exist for any creature when it is connected by the silver thread to fifth density. Once it is passing through the conduit produced by the opening of the silver thread, then, of course, it cannot be tampered with.
once the soul leaves the confines of the physical body, the illusion of time passage is no longer apparent even when the soul remains on the third density plane. Therefore, it appears to that soul that no time whatsoever has passed.
Thoughts are the basis of all creation. After all, without thought nothing would exist.
most all power necessary for altering reality and physicality is contained within the belief center of the mind. This is something you will understand more closely when you reach 4th density reality where physicality is no longer a prison, but is instead, your home, for you to alter as you please. In your current state, you have the misinterpretation of believing that reality is finite and therein lies your difficulty with finite physical existence.
when 4th density beings visit 3rd density environment, they are, in effect, 3rd density beings, and vice versa. The so- called abduction takes place, especially if it is a physical abduction, the subject becomes temporarily 4th density, because it is the environment that counts. And the key factor there is awareness, not physical or material structure.
Well, if the Grays are cyber- genetic probes of the Lizard Beings, and, in effect soulless, does this mean that some of the Lizard beings are also STO? A: Well, first, no being that is given intelligence to think on its own is, in fact, completely soul- less. It does have some soul imprint; or what could be loosely referred to as soul imprint. This may be a collection of psychic energies that are available in the general vicinity. And this is stretching somewhat so that you can understand the basic ideas, even though in reality it is all far more complex than that. But, in any case, there is really no such thing as being completely soul- less, whether it be a natural intelligence or an artificially constructed intelligence. And, one of the very most interesting things about that from your perspective, is that your technology on 3rd density, which we might add, has been aided somewhat by interactions with those that you might refer to as “aliens,” is now reaching a level whereby the artificially created intelligences can, in fact, begin to develop, or attract some soul imprint energy. If you follow what we are saying. For example: your computers, which are now on the verge of reaching the level whereby they can think by themselves, will begin to develop faint soul imprint.
if you knew the TRUE nature of the universe, of All of the universe, of all possible realms, you would also know that any and all things are possible, and, in fact, DO exist! You must NOT forget this. Q: (L) So, in other words, these people are right? A: All of these people are right, and all of these people are wrong.
What creates this environment of limitation? A: It is the grand illusion which is there for the purpose of learning. Q: (L) And who put the illusion into place? A: The Creator who is also the Created. Which is also you and us and all. As we have told you, we are you and vice versa. And so is everything else. Q: (L) Is the key that it is all illusion? A: Basically, yes.
A: As we have told you before, if you will be patient just a moment, the universe is merely a school. And, a school is there for all to learn. That is why everything exists. There is no other reason. Now, if only you understood the true depth of that statement, you would begin to start to see, and experience for yourself, all the levels of density that it is possible to experience, all the dimensions that it is possible to experience, all awareness. When an individual understands that statement to its greatest possible depth, that individual becomes illumined. And, certainly you have heard of that. And, for one moment, which lasts for all eternity, that individual knows absolutely everything that there is to know. Q: (L) So, you are saying that the path to illumination is knowledge and not love? A: That is correct.
When you begin to separate limiting emotions based on assumptions from emotions that open one to unlimited possibilities, that means you are preparing for the next density.
Here comes a shocker for you… one day, in 4th density, it will be your descendants mission to carry on the tradition and assignment of seeding the 3rd density universe, once you have the adequate knowledge!!!
the region known as Orion that is the one and only indigenous home of human type beings…
Pay attention to Orion! This is your ancestral home, and your eventual destination. Here is the absolutely accurately accurate profile of Orion to follow: This is the most heavily populated region of your Milky Way galaxy!
Are the Orion STS the infamous red- headed Nordic aliens? A: Yes, and all other humanoid combinations.
What is there about strength that makes one inaccessible to permanent abduction? A: Strength is of character, i.e. if STO candidate, not likely to be victim.
Is there a Hell? A: No.
Why do you suppose there are roads around Dulce NM where people have become confused when traveling on them? Because the 4th density vibrational frequency emanating from the nearby base more and more frequently resonates on surface. Q: (L) OK, continue. A: Then going to 4th density: road seems straight as seen in 4th density, when curved in 3rd. Q: (J) It seems straight when seen in 4th, but it’s actually curved in 3rd? (SV) In other words, accidents! (J) It changes configuration from 3rd to 4th! (T) When people drive those roads out there, as the fourth density seeps out through, and is seeping out farther and farther, they become confused because they’re moving between 3rd and 4th. As the road curves in 3rd, and the car, which is in 3rd, should be curving with the road, the driver sees the road as straight, and drives off the road, because he’s confused by what he sees. A: Exactly. Q: (J) It’s all about perception! (T) Now, we’re back to perception of reality! A: In 4th, you see full circle from any vantage point.
[A depiction of what's like going to 4th dimension]
A: Picture driving down a highway, suddenly you notice auras surrounding everything…. Being able to see around corners, going inside little cottages which become mansions, when viewed from inside… Going inside a building in Albuquerque and going out the back door into Las Vegas, going to sleep as a female, and waking up male… Flying in a plane for half an hour and landing at the same place 5 weeks later…
there may be some people on the planet, because of their fixity of will, and perception, at third density, who will not perceive anything change? Is that correct? A: No.
Thassa
Padawan Learner
ONE EXCERPT THAT REALLY STANDS OUT. MAYBE THE MOST IMPORTANT OF ALL!!! (MAYBE!)
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A: As we have told you before, if you will be patient just a moment, the universe is merely a school. And, a school is there for all to learn. That is why everything exists. There is no other reason. Now, if only you understood the true depth of that statement, you would begin to start to see, and experience for yourself, all the levels of density that it is possible to experience, all the dimensions that it is possible to experience, all awareness. When an individual understands that statement to its greatest possible depth, that individual becomes illumined. And, certainly you have heard of that. And, for one moment, which lasts for all eternity, that individual knows absolutely everything that there is to know. Q: (L) So, you are saying that the path to illumination is knowledge and not love? A: That is correct.
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A: As we have told you before, if you will be patient just a moment, the universe is merely a school. And, a school is there for all to learn. That is why everything exists. There is no other reason. Now, if only you understood the true depth of that statement, you would begin to start to see, and experience for yourself, all the levels of density that it is possible to experience, all the dimensions that it is possible to experience, all awareness. When an individual understands that statement to its greatest possible depth, that individual becomes illumined. And, certainly you have heard of that. And, for one moment, which lasts for all eternity, that individual knows absolutely everything that there is to know. Q: (L) So, you are saying that the path to illumination is knowledge and not love? A: That is correct.
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