Zadius Sky
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Gandalf said:
Yeah, I'm going back and forth. The commenters on there are like, "show me the comet" while there's alot of chatters among NASA experts.
Comet C/2012 S1 - ISON
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Yeah, I'm going back and forth. The commenters on there are like, "show me the comet" while there's alot of chatters among NASA experts.
Zadius Sky
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I kept thinking that it went into the Sun (or went back into time like Enterprise did twenty years ago).
Here's a latest animation:
_http://science.nasa.gov/media/medialibrary/2013/11/28/sundiver_anim3.gif
Here's a latest animation:
_http://science.nasa.gov/media/medialibrary/2013/11/28/sundiver_anim3.gif
RGG
Jedi Master
Zadius Sky said:Gandalf said:
Yeah, I'm going back and forth. The commenters on there are like, "show me the comet" while there's alot of chatters among NASA experts.
Ugg! Really irritating dialogue going on there. Latest comment was
" scientist don 't really know what a hot molten chunk of ice is going to do when it goes around the sun"
Hot molten chunk of ice- what a bunch of oxymorons!
I think he maybe slipped up on his "official definition there"
Here we see better the brightening when it crosses the plasma stream:
If the core discharged without disintegrating completly (looks like a cloud emerging with no active core), there might be some fragments on their way. Hard to tell from the thing that emerges at the end of the animation.
If it is the case (big chunks inside the debris cloud), their orbit should be different from the projected orbit of the comet, maybe closing further towards the ecliptic somehow (cynical guess).
Added: the emerging cloud of debris:
If the core discharged without disintegrating completly (looks like a cloud emerging with no active core), there might be some fragments on their way. Hard to tell from the thing that emerges at the end of the animation.
If it is the case (big chunks inside the debris cloud), their orbit should be different from the projected orbit of the comet, maybe closing further towards the ecliptic somehow (cynical guess).
Added: the emerging cloud of debris:
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Things are more clear on lasco C3.
Russians haven't been very lucky with their comets so far :)
More seriously, the trajectory of the visible debris cloud is very different from the initial orbit, maybe dominated by solar wind (headless comet: _http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2003/06/030618081318.htm). Tomorrow things should be more clear.
Russians haven't been very lucky with their comets so far :)
More seriously, the trajectory of the visible debris cloud is very different from the initial orbit, maybe dominated by solar wind (headless comet: _http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2003/06/030618081318.htm). Tomorrow things should be more clear.
RGG
Jedi Master
This is what Jim McCanney has to say:
"November 28, 2013 ... 9 PM CDT ... !!!!!!!!!!!!! comet ISON made it through the solar dive and is alive and completely well on the outbound leg of its capture journey becoming a permanent member of our solar system ... the standard scientific agenda was continually to state it was breaking apart and IT NEVER DID ... even as it made its dive into the solar atmosphere they claimed it had disintegrated but it emerged completely intact and developed a full comet tail within minutes ... NASA continues to stall releasing the SOHO data which had the best view and is at least 6 hours behind on releasing this critical data ... the video clearly shows the comet coma shrinking exactly as predicted by my Plasma Discharge Comet Model ... you can see this clearly ... jim mccanney"
I'm not exactly sure what he means when he says it will become a permanent member of our solar system. He's also dedicated a radio show to ISON that he's already posted so maybe he'll explain there.
"November 28, 2013 ... 9 PM CDT ... !!!!!!!!!!!!! comet ISON made it through the solar dive and is alive and completely well on the outbound leg of its capture journey becoming a permanent member of our solar system ... the standard scientific agenda was continually to state it was breaking apart and IT NEVER DID ... even as it made its dive into the solar atmosphere they claimed it had disintegrated but it emerged completely intact and developed a full comet tail within minutes ... NASA continues to stall releasing the SOHO data which had the best view and is at least 6 hours behind on releasing this critical data ... the video clearly shows the comet coma shrinking exactly as predicted by my Plasma Discharge Comet Model ... you can see this clearly ... jim mccanney"
I'm not exactly sure what he means when he says it will become a permanent member of our solar system. He's also dedicated a radio show to ISON that he's already posted so maybe he'll explain there.