Computational modelling of the companion star and its interaction with Sol
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tohuwabohu
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Yes it should be similar to Jupiter in size and charcoal dark so even if we would know the position there is nothing to see. As far as I remember it does not radiate but it could be ignited upon interaction with the Sun.
I think that studying Jupiter and Saturn would reveal very much about star systems in general. That's why there are spacecrafts on the orbits. These planets have everything that a star system has. They have their magnetosphere, they have the accretion disk or rings if you will and they have their own satellites.
And if the companion is near it would be only logical to send some spacecraft and park it in the orbit. I mean how often do we get the chance to observe up close such magnificent star.
I think that studying Jupiter and Saturn would reveal very much about star systems in general. That's why there are spacecrafts on the orbits. These planets have everything that a star system has. They have their magnetosphere, they have the accretion disk or rings if you will and they have their own satellites.
And if the companion is near it would be only logical to send some spacecraft and park it in the orbit. I mean how often do we get the chance to observe up close such magnificent star.
tohuwabohu
Jedi Master
Saša said:
Yes I have been thinking about it and what is interesting is that the electrostatic force decays at the same rate as gravity force with distance. In this way it would be possible to reduce the mass of the companion and increase its charge without changing the net force acting on the companion. But the net charges of the Sun and companion would have to be opposite. I would replace the gravitational force that is lost with the mass by electrostatic force. So in theory it is possible to convert mass to charge and vice versa and the orbit would remain stable yet the solar system would not be disrupted.
I think this is more complicated in reality so I am going to study plasma, electricity and magnetism.
I like to study old books. The books are so clearly written and everything is explained in simple and straightforward manner. The modern books are many times about wise-acreing and the author fails to explain anything clearly. Back in the old days there was real uncorrupted science. So I am thinking perhaps Maxwell might help me.
A FB friend sent me the following links. Maybe some of ya'll who are more tecnically/scientifically educated can take a quick look?
_http://www.human-resonance.org/red_dwarf_alignment.html
_http://www.human-resonance.org/red_dwarf.html
http://www.thrivemovement.com/lets-talk-for-real-about-humans-and-climate-change.blog
_http://www.human-resonance.org/red_dwarf_alignment.html
_http://www.human-resonance.org/red_dwarf.html
http://www.thrivemovement.com/lets-talk-for-real-about-humans-and-climate-change.blog
Palinurus
The Living Force
The first two links contain fairly recent views of Alexander Putney who's theories have been disavowed by forum members several times in the past. A search for his name can yield all pertinent details.
In this particular case he announces in the first link a specific multi-planetary alignment for December 18-21, 2015 with sun's companion and draws heavily from several C's session transcripts to argue for an imminent 'Shift of the Ages' -- whatever that may mean exactly.
The second link rehashes some views of Edgar Cayce about the possible sudden visibility of a dwarf star in an unspecified future.
Both links place these phenomena in the context of Putney's resonance theories and try to establish some parallels with other 'prophecies' from American natives, like the Hopi for instance.
The third link contains an article form Foster Camble (unknown to me, no forum search results) which seems to give a fairly accurate overview of the global warming science controversy, including the famous Climategate E-mail revelations. All arguments pro and con appear to be properly sourced. It ends with the announcement of a public discussion on 12:00pm PDT on Saturday, October 24th. This link does not belong to the current topic, I think.
In this particular case he announces in the first link a specific multi-planetary alignment for December 18-21, 2015 with sun's companion and draws heavily from several C's session transcripts to argue for an imminent 'Shift of the Ages' -- whatever that may mean exactly.
The second link rehashes some views of Edgar Cayce about the possible sudden visibility of a dwarf star in an unspecified future.
Both links place these phenomena in the context of Putney's resonance theories and try to establish some parallels with other 'prophecies' from American natives, like the Hopi for instance.
The third link contains an article form Foster Camble (unknown to me, no forum search results) which seems to give a fairly accurate overview of the global warming science controversy, including the famous Climategate E-mail revelations. All arguments pro and con appear to be properly sourced. It ends with the announcement of a public discussion on 12:00pm PDT on Saturday, October 24th. This link does not belong to the current topic, I think.
Oh boy. I took a look. Does this guy ever NOT get it. He cites this:
If he understood eclipsing realities as it is explained by Cs, then he would realize that the Cs were probably referring to the change in our world that is manifesting as a result of Putin's activities standing up to the Western NWO agenda.
Oy.
We could move this stuff to its own thread, I think.
If he understood eclipsing realities as it is explained by Cs, then he would realize that the Cs were probably referring to the change in our world that is manifesting as a result of Putin's activities standing up to the Western NWO agenda.
Oy.
We could move this stuff to its own thread, I think.
Propagation of gravity in the simulation is instantaneous. Anyway thank you Data for the links very interesting reading. But I think the most obvious error in most papers I read is the lack for accounting the variability of mass. Not in the sense of relativity but more like in the sense of UFT.
For the reason I'll explain I think that the companion approach is all about UFT. I was having problems with the simulation from the very beginning if you remember. The two body simulation according to Kepler's law was giving false results. If I put the companion mass to 3.4 % of the Sun and set the semimajor axis of the companion orbit to 1.7 ly then the orbital period was over 32 million years and not 28.2 as it should be. I was forced to reduce the semimajor axis to 1.5 ly which then produces the correct orbital period.
But I noticed even back then that adding 50% mass to the Sun would correct the problem.
Nevertheless yesterday I made once again the simulation of the whole orbit of the companion and included the planets to plot the trajectory. I knew that if I increase the mass of the Sun then the planets will shrink their orbits and the simulation would be messed up. So I added mass to the companion star to be precise I put the mass of the companion equal to 56 % mass of the Sun (So to say I transferred the additional mass from the Sun to the companion). And lo and behold the period was correct! Actually only half period because as soon as the companion approached the solar system it kinda ripped it apart. But the period was in perfect agreement with what the Cs said (and all other orbital parameters) and also it is in good agreement with Keplers law (thank you Saša).
If you remember the C's have given the 56 % value back in 1998 in fact it was in the same session where they mention the Libra constellation.
I thought that the 56 % value has to be wrong because as I said it would disrupt the solar system. Moreover in more recent transcript the value was 3.4 percent.
Session 30 January 2010
I've introduced a new "style" in this session: giving some of those present their forum names for familiarity. Session Date: January 30th 2010 Laura, Ark, Ottershrew, Joe, Andromeda, Belibaste, Nomad, Burma Jones, PoB, Alada, Ailén, Scottie, Psyche Q: (L) [Talking to others in the room with...cassiopaea.org
But as I said the 56 % value gives proper orbital parameters. So I was thinking about this and I reread Pierre's book for inspiration and the chapter about grounding captured my attention. And a thought occured to me that what if the companion is somehow connected to the Sun. I mean by some beam or something and there is some kind of energy transfer. The Sun would increase gravity and thus inhibit more flares and the companion perhaps the opposite. So that temporarily it would lose some gravity.
If I visualize the solar system as a large capacitor then surely there has to occur something when the companion enters the heliosphere. Something similar to when one touches plasma ball and a plasma filament is created. So I was thinking that well there has to be at least some region where the current is more dense compared to ambient values. So I fired up SOTT WorldView and selected only the events which I thought were linked to electric activity. And the result is in Fig. 63. And one can clearly observe once again the seasonality. This time the peaks are during summer months.
So is it possible that if the companion is close to the plane of ecliptic and it is connected somehow to the Sun that each time the Earth crosses between the Sun and the companion all the Earth changes tied to electricity are exacerbated?
I think both values for companion mass is correct. The time between asking was 12 years, which mean that companion changed mass at that time. I used orbital period equation and calculated 34.66 million years for 3.4 x sun percent mass and 1.7 ly semi major axis. When using 56 percent mass of sun for companion, at that time the period will correct at 28.22 million years. But if the mass is that big, it will destroy solar system. The change in mass seem to be sudden, because then orbit period will be correct and also solar system safe.
In Optics, we observe single light particle. That particle create single ray of light. When it hit different medium density, at that time, the particle trajectory changes. Why does this happen we don't know. In books there is refraction index defined on observation and measurement. It is empirical formula comparing propagation velocity of light.
Here we have the same. The companion star when crossing boundary to solar system, at that time, the ambient density of fine medium changes. As a result there is change also in the mass. We can assume that this is linear relation. When the mass change is 56/3.4=16.47 times, that mean, also density reduced the same. Almost 17 times. At that time, the velocity must change if there is conservation of momentum, and also the trajectory change. At the boundary there is wrinkle in the density and it is observed, that body accelerate or decelerate as in roller coaster, if crossing this boundary, until the velocity stable, but different.
It seem that material properties is not really property of matter. The refraction index is not constant and is changed with change in density, This is used in observing stress distribution. This is photoelasticity and is forgotten because of computers.
If there are universal principles, then they are mirrored in everything that exist in the universe. One can learn by paying attention.
a very interesting undertaking, thank you for bringing this up.
the cass are very explicit about the solar companion.
the question of the companion is also investigated in:
an ancillary question: why are all rotations of galaxies, sun, planet orbits, axial, in the trigonometric sense? might this be explained by the electric universe? or the coupling of electical and magnetic fields?
axj
The Living Force
Very interesting research that presents additional evidence for a large companion to the Sun. I wonder why the WISE infrared survey did not detect it though, they ruled out any large objects (like a brown dwarf) in the vicinity of the Sun.
