Coronavirus epidemic in China: Apocalypse Now! Or exaggerated scare story?

loreta

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That's the difference between a country with high social cohesion and one with practically none. Barbarians.
I hear you. But never forget that "normal" people can become barbarians in a second by a collective histeria. We have seen this during war, mothers and fathers becoming really crazy, killing and loosing their personality, their bon sense. I remember a story in a village, at the beginning of the civil war in Spain. A very pacific village where suddenly the villageois started to kill. Histeria collectiva.
 

Metrist

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I watched a earth changes video earlier, and there was a Wuhan segment showing some of the things going on there, and people were throwing their money out the windows. Making paper airplanes from money, ect.

Other scenes showed buildings being welded shut, and people deliberately contaminating surfaces - intent on spreading the disease.

A lake in or near Wuhan showed a lot of fish grounding themselves on the shore.

And some anti-Chinese virus hysteria.
The China videos start at about 9:00 mins.

 

mbww

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I watched a earth changes video earlier, and there was a Wuhan segment showing some of the things going on there, and people were throwing their money out the windows. Making paper airplanes from money, ect.
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That video is a lot of bull crap.

Don't cave in to fear.
 

mbww

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Here's a QA on coronavirus with modern-day psychic Douglas James Cottrell, in which he apparently confirms that it was a botched research anti-virus experiment released without intent.
He also confirms that virus will further spread, before it will be contained.
As the C's said, we'll get through this.
 

angelburst29

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He's a Coronavirus expert, and he's in Hong Kong.
A quote and comment from that article:

The World Health Organization (WHO) officially designated the virus COVID-19 on Tuesday, adding that the first vaccine could be available in 18 months, according to Reuters.

Comment: And that - setting a 'vaccine date' - is WHO's primary interest in spreading this contagion of fear they chiefly represent Big Pharma's vested interest in maintaining the party line about vaccines 'saving people' from common colds - ...
As I suggested earlier in this thread, WHO's headline's have been predominately "fear-porn" and stirring the "gloom and doom" in media reports. Why China consented to allowing WHO and 3 of their "highly qualified specialist" to observe and collect data is beyond my comprehension? I doubt, WHO's interest is solely to help in this situation - more in line of complicating matters? Wasn't WHO the one's that suggested a different counting system in keeping track of those who became infected with the Coronavirus?

This guy is the real "Bull in a China shop"?

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FILE PHOTO: Director-General of the WHO Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, attends a news conference on the novel coronavirus (2019-nCoV) in Geneva, Switzerland February 11, 2020. REUTERS/Denis Balibouse
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flashgordonv

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A quote and comment from that article:
As I suggested earlier in this thread, WHO's headline's have been predominately "fear-porn" and stirring the "gloom and doom" in media reports. Why China consented to allowing WHO and 3 of their "highly qualified specialist" to observe and collect data is beyond my comprehension? I doubt, WHO's interest is solely to help in this situation - more in line of complicating matters? Wasn't WHO the one's that suggested a different counting system in keeping track of those who became infected with the Coronavirus?
Let's not forget that WHO are no paragon of virtue when it comes to quoting numbers. Think about WHO data on so called smoking deaths. Estimates based on dodgy research. There is no reason to think anything different is happening here
 

Keit

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There is this new documentary in Russian from the Russian federal news channel. And in it they mention several interesting points. First one was made by Gennady Onishchenko (Chief Sanitary Inspector of Russia), where he talks with humor about the conspiracy theories surrounding coronavirus. He says that it is beneficial for our citizens to "train their criminological fantasy", because extra thinking causes greater blood inflow to the brain and increases general intelligence. :-D

And that so far it is confirmed that the virus doesn't appear to infect children. Apparently also Chinese have an app, where they can see the exact location of all infected, up to a building. And people are avoiding these areas.

They also mention that when vaccine will be created (and it may take a year or two) Russians won't need this vaccine, but only those who will be going to Yuchan. And also warn from excessive intake of immunomodulators. They mostly offer advice of washing hands with soap more often, and be more aware in public. Which is a good advice in general, but without any fear mongering.

 
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Keit

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That's the difference between a country with high social cohesion and one with practically none. Barbarians.
Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs tweeted this recently, and shared how Russian diplomats delayed for more than an hour fully biohazard-equipped Chinese with jokes and anecdotes, while waiting for a Ukrainian citizen, who wanted to fly on the Russian evacuation flight.
 

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S.Korea has had 224 cases overnight. It's more than quadrupled it's cases in like 4 days. It's now got a total of 433 confirmed cases, and counting.

Italy has had an additional 10 cases overnight. 10 towns in northern Italy are in essential (I think voluntary) lockdown - schools shut for 2 weeks also.

 

cope

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What i did not see in the thread: nytimes.**com/2017/05/13/health/candidate-who-director-general-ethiopia-cholera-outbreaks.html?
The WHO is not somuch a benevolent institution, as it is a global manipulator. As a great contributor, besides Bill Gates, to the WHO, China had a say in choosing the new boss. And they choose this guy?
Second, the censorship concerning Corona is being organized globally, all social media, i read, will adhere. Things like, wear a mask, stay away from other people, dont eat bats, that do not really help, are put forward, instead of telling everybody to take D3, C vitamins, zinc etc, it does not quite add up. There is the impression that China has succeeded to block all unofficial contacts over the internet, and filled the void with controlled content. Combine this with the new app, showing exactly where possible infected persons are located, or, are these coincidentally also people with low social adherence scores. Are these people exempt from the limited health resources, or, scary thought, actively rounded up?
 
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liam1310

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February 22 (GMT):
  • 2 new cases in Italy: two doctors, husband and wife (a pediatrician), in Pieve Porto Morone (Pavia). There are now a total of 30 cases in Lombardy region (including 1 death, 1 critical, and at least 14 serious cases), 8 in Veneto region (including 1 death and at least 1 critical case) and 3 in Rome. The total number of cases in Italy has now already doubled since yesterday.
  • 5 new cases in Italy in Vò Euganeo (Padua).
  • 1 new death in Italy, a 75-year-old woman who was hospitalized a few days ago for pneumonia in the Lodi area (Lombardy region). Italy now has the highest number of cases and deaths in Europe (doubling the number of Germany in second place). The 38-year-old man near Lodi is in critical condition (mechanically ventilated in intensive care, according to his parents) and at least 14 contacts are in serious condition, according to doctors, and include: 5 health workers and doctors, 3 patients at the Codogno hospital, 3 elderly (in the 70s and 80s) clients of a bar run by the father of the man's friend.
  • 12 new cases in Italy, including one in Cremona and in Sesto Cremonese (Lombardy region) and 2 in Dolo (Veneto region). Schools in ten towns will stay closed for two weeks. "People must be distantiated right now, because this is a virus that is transmitted very effectively at close range" said the director of the infectious diseases department of the Higher Institute of Health, Gianni Rezza.
  • 1 new death and 10 new cases in Iran. [Islamic Republic of Iran News Network (IRINN)]
  • 87 new cases in South Korea bringing the total to 433. Last few days progression of total cases in South Korea:
    • Feb. 22: 433 cases (current day, still in progress)
    • Feb. 21: 209 cases
    • Feb. 20: 111 cases
    • Feb. 19: 58 cases
    • Feb. 18: 31 cases

      [country-level pages with statistics and graphs coming soon]
  • 2 new cases in Australia (Victoria residents) from the Diamond Princess cruise ship, bringing the country's total to 21 (of which 6 repatriated from the cruise ship in Japan)
  • 1 new case in Japan.
  • 142 new cases in South Korea,
    of which 92 linked to the Cheongdo Daenam Hospital, 38 to the Sincheon Daegu Church, and 12 unknown pending investigation.
 

cope

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This would mean the virus is unstoppable and masks are useless, or, you could basically take out anybody you do not like, on the allegation of being infected, until the virus is everywhere.
 
The situation in Italy is rapidly developing.

I'm surprised this isn't front page news on MSM. 4 hours ago there were 10 new confirmed cases, now there are 27 bringing the total to 44!!! The numbers just keep going up and up by the hour! I saw a news report they were going to test EVERYONE in one particular village.

Italy only had 4 or so confirmed cases like 3 days ago!!!!

Strap in tight, COVID-19 has officially landed in the EU.
 

cope

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Mike Adams has set apart a site Pandemic.news for corona news.
I read somewhere that the virus can survive quite long on surfaces, if not too warm or sunny.
If i find the source, ill post it.
 

Keit

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Now US accuses Russia in spreading conspiracy theories about coronavirus. :rolleyes:

Thousands of Russian-linked social media accounts have launched a coordinated effort to spread alarm about the coronavirus outbreak, disrupting global efforts to combat the epidemic, US officials said.

The disinformation campaign promotes unfounded conspiracy theories that the US is behind the outbreak, in an apparent bid to damage America’s standing by seizing on international health concerns, the officials said.
 

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