Coronavirus Pandemic: Apocalypse Now! Or exaggerated scare story?
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LongCloud
Jedi
Wisteria,
This may not calm you, but understand this is NOTHING like the tragedies that have befallen societies before us.
Suck it up, as the C's say.
Unless you or your family and/or friends get taken away and facing a firing squad, then you should be able to keep your head together.
Nucifera
Dagobah Resident
PCR-based Covid testing has failed
This article is focused on the UK. Presumably much of this is applicable elsewhere. The failures of PCR testing in general may be applicable virtually everywhere it is used. The reason is that it's insufficient as a sole tool for diagnosis, if it's valid at all. There are arguments that it is not.
PCR-based Covid testing has failed
The problem Across Europe, including in the UK, we see the following: Daily 'cases' sky-rocketed in Europe as Autumn arrived. Daily deaths labelled as 'Covid deaths' rose in line with 'cases' - to levels apparently higher than at the Spring peak....
www.sott.net
A friend of mine who's a physiotherapist for the UK's NHS was sent home from work with one the Covid rapid self testing kits; which we know can product false positives quite easily if repeated many times. He's been instructed to test himself twice per week before going into work, as have all staff.
Here comes the 'strain on the NHS' they've been harping on about for so long.
Here comes the 'strain on the NHS' they've been harping on about for so long.
Nucifera
Dagobah Resident
Here's Why You Should Skip the Covid Vaccine
Here's why you should skip the Covid Vaccine
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/12/16/opinion/00hotez/00hotez-superJumbo.jpg=Chris Gash/New York Times 'The world has bet the farm on vaccines as the solution to the pandemic, but the trials are not focused on answering the questions many might assume they are.' Peter Doshi, associate...
SOTTREADER
The Living Force
UK army and intelligence forces now deployed to fighting anti-PTB material online.
All those who hold views counter to the PTB now probably considered enemies of the state.
www.rt.com
It looks like part of fighting this information online is by them throwing fake information to steer public opinion away from the truth. They also form fake accounts on social media sites and push material in a coordinated way. It looks like they are also building a map of networks and how information flows I guess with the intent that they can ultimately stifle and control these networks.
I've started noticing the dubious material flooding places like BitChute and Brandnewtube.... It's really hard to filter out the noise.... I have the impression these new video sharing sites are getting FLOODED by fake material deliberately. Sadly without oversight from the owners and / or moderators I fear they are just going to be a cesspool of useless material.
I feel like the alternative sphere needs to get organised in a very real way, get up to speed on pathology and set standards for themselves in order to weed out these intelligence and army operations. Failure to do so means you're at the mercy of these elements which have unlimited resources and budgets to infiltrate, influence and ultimately shape outcomes.
All those who hold views counter to the PTB now probably considered enemies of the state.
British Army spies wage ‘information war’ against anti-vaxx content online – report
With a significant number of Britons skeptical of a Covid vaccine, the army has reportedly deployed an “information warfare” unit to stamp out anti-vaxx propaganda online. Offline, citizens still protest lockdowns in the streets.
It looks like part of fighting this information online is by them throwing fake information to steer public opinion away from the truth. They also form fake accounts on social media sites and push material in a coordinated way. It looks like they are also building a map of networks and how information flows I guess with the intent that they can ultimately stifle and control these networks.
I've started noticing the dubious material flooding places like BitChute and Brandnewtube.... It's really hard to filter out the noise.... I have the impression these new video sharing sites are getting FLOODED by fake material deliberately. Sadly without oversight from the owners and / or moderators I fear they are just going to be a cesspool of useless material.
I feel like the alternative sphere needs to get organised in a very real way, get up to speed on pathology and set standards for themselves in order to weed out these intelligence and army operations. Failure to do so means you're at the mercy of these elements which have unlimited resources and budgets to infiltrate, influence and ultimately shape outcomes.
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SOTTREADER
The Living Force
The Guardian: NHS to enlist 'sensible' celebrities to persuade people to take coronavirus vaccine.
www.theguardian.com
Here we go!
Just a reminder of the tactics they'll use
NHS to enlist 'sensible' celebrities to persuade people to take coronavirus vaccine
People who are ‘known and loved’ will front campaign amid fears of low take-up
Here we go!
Just a reminder of the tactics they'll use
SOTTREADER
The Living Force
Here's the messaging the governments will deploy.
clinicaltrials.gov
Worth memorising them as they are quite insidious.
ClinicalTrials.gov
clinicaltrials.gov
Worth memorising them as they are quite insidious.
Aniram
Padawan Learner
Hello from France, here as elsewhere, the madness continues. You know what, I think I'm going to stop trying to understand and follow the C's advice: take out my deckchair, put my little ass on it and wait for the next episode.The dumbest measures in the world are taken everywhere, but in France, friends, in France, we're champions. I didn't see the news coming through here (sorry if it does). Our great Ubu caused this week and good news: our ski resorts can reopen! Bad news: no restaurants and no ski lifts !! It's an international contest between psychopaths of who will lay the most twisted, the most ridiculous thing ?? The scariest thing for me is people's reaction. Reaction of the resorts ? A torchlight raid to tell tourists to come anyway. 
Small shopkeepers reopened, masks on their noses, hydro-alcoholic gel on their shoulders and lines of shopping drug addicts applauded in the shopping malls? We are waiting for the vaccine, we wonder what we are going to be able to invent in order to push those who are resistant to the Covid dogma to adhere, Covid passport... So, of course, we also went out to demonstrate against the security law and its article 24... The people are waking up or falling asleep more and more deeply because....
... meanwhile, on November 26, a motion for a resolution to integrate the DDOs into the Constitution was adopted in the National Assembly.
The only media to report the adoption of this resolution was AEF, a press group for decision makers: "The deputies adopted, by 73 votes in favor and 6 against, a motion for resolution that seeks to change the Constitution to allow the integration of SDOs (sustainable development objectives) into the legislative process, in public session. While deputies welcomed the ambition of the text, some felt it would duplicate the Environmental Charter or add unnecessary constraints to the legislative process. The LR group called for a reflection on their integration into the budgetary process".
Duplication with the Environmental Charter? Not only that, in the session report, one can read the words of MP Agnès Thill: "Let's not forget that the objectives in question were developed by an international institution, the United Nations Organization - UN -, according to an international framework, with an international outlook; yet, as you will have noticed, we are not the legislators of the world and our Constitution is not that of the world, but of France: to local question, local answer! We must accept the idea that the objectives defined in New York, although marked with the seal of the UN, may not correspond to our territories, our culture and our institutions. Stop the utopia of generalities, give way to realism and nuances!
"A fundamental question that has been evaded, and here we go, head first!
Remember the Tex Avery's? As long as the Coyote doesn't realize he's walking in a vacuum, he doesn't fall down...
Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version)
Small shopkeepers reopened, masks on their noses, hydro-alcoholic gel on their shoulders and lines of shopping drug addicts applauded in the shopping malls? We are waiting for the vaccine, we wonder what we are going to be able to invent in order to push those who are resistant to the Covid dogma to adhere, Covid passport... So, of course, we also went out to demonstrate against the security law and its article 24... The people are waking up or falling asleep more and more deeply because....... meanwhile, on November 26, a motion for a resolution to integrate the DDOs into the Constitution was adopted in the National Assembly.
The only media to report the adoption of this resolution was AEF, a press group for decision makers: "The deputies adopted, by 73 votes in favor and 6 against, a motion for resolution that seeks to change the Constitution to allow the integration of SDOs (sustainable development objectives) into the legislative process, in public session. While deputies welcomed the ambition of the text, some felt it would duplicate the Environmental Charter or add unnecessary constraints to the legislative process. The LR group called for a reflection on their integration into the budgetary process".
Duplication with the Environmental Charter? Not only that, in the session report, one can read the words of MP Agnès Thill: "Let's not forget that the objectives in question were developed by an international institution, the United Nations Organization - UN -, according to an international framework, with an international outlook; yet, as you will have noticed, we are not the legislators of the world and our Constitution is not that of the world, but of France: to local question, local answer! We must accept the idea that the objectives defined in New York, although marked with the seal of the UN, may not correspond to our territories, our culture and our institutions. Stop the utopia of generalities, give way to realism and nuances!
"A fundamental question that has been evaded, and here we go, head first!
Remember the Tex Avery's? As long as the Coyote doesn't realize he's walking in a vacuum, he doesn't fall down...
Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version)
Hello from France, ici comme ailleurs, la folie continue. Vous savez quoi, je pense que je vais arrêter d'essayer de comprendre et suivre le conseil des C's : sortir mon transat, poser mon petit cul dessus et attendre le prochain épisode. Les mesures les plus débiles du monde sont prises partout mais en France les amis, en France, on est des champions. Je n'ai pas vu la nouvelle passer ici (désolée si c'est le cas). Notre grand Ubu a causé cette semaine et bonne nouvelle : nos stations de ski peuvent rouvrir ! Mauvaise nouvelle : sans restos et sans remontées mécaniques !!! C'est un concours international entre psychopathes de qui pondra le truc le plus tordu, le plus ridicule ?? Le plus effrayant pour moi, c'est la réaction des gens. Réaction des stations ? Une descente aux flambeaux pour dire aux touristes de venir quand même. Les petits commerçants ont rouvert, masques sur le nez, gel hydro alcoolique en bandoulière et des files de drogués du shopping applaudies dans les galeries marchandes... On attend le vaccin, on se pose la question de savoir ce que l'on va bien pouvoir inventer pour pousser les réfractaires au dogme Covid à adhérer, passeport Covid... Alors bien sûr, on est aussi sorti manifester contre la loi sécurité et son article 24... Le peuple se réveille ou s'endort toujours plus profondément car....
... pendant ce temps, le 26 novembre, une proposition de résolution pour intégrer les ODD dans la Constitution a été adoptée à l'Assemblée nationale.
Seul média a faire mention de l'adoption de cette résolution, AEF, groupe de presse destiné aux décideurs : "Les députés ont adopté, par 73 voix pour et 6 contre, une proposition de résolution qui vise à faire évoluer la Constitution afin de permettre l’intégration des ODD (objectifs de développement durable) dans le processus législatif, en séance publique. Si les députés ont salué l’ambition du texte, certains ont estimé qu’il ferait doublon avec la Charte de l’environnement, ou qu’il ajouterait des contraintes inutiles au processus législatif. Le groupe LR a appelé à une réflexion sur leur intégration dans le processus budgétaire."
Doublon avec la Charte de l'environnement ? Pas seulement, dans le rapport de séance, on peut lire les propos de la députée Agnès Thill : "N’oublions pas que les objectifs en question ont été développés par une institution internationale, l’Organisation des Nations unies – ONU –, selon un cadre international, avec un regard international ; or, comme vous l’aurez remarqué, nous ne sommes pas les législateurs du monde et notre Constitution n’est pas celle du monde, mais bien de la France : à question locale, réponse locale ! Il faut accepter l’idée que des objectifs définis à New York, bien que marqués du sceau de l’ONU, puissent ne pas correspondre à nos territoires, à notre culture et à nos institutions. Stop à l’utopie des généralités, place au réalisme et aux nuances !
" Question fondamentale éludée et hop, on y va la tête la première !
Vous vous souvenez des Tex Avery ? Tant que le Coyote ne s'aperçoit pas qu'il marche dans le vide, il ne tombe pas...
Les petits commerçants ont rouvert, masques sur le nez, gel hydro alcoolique en bandoulière et des files de drogués du shopping applaudies dans les galeries marchandes... On attend le vaccin, on se pose la question de savoir ce que l'on va bien pouvoir inventer pour pousser les réfractaires au dogme Covid à adhérer, passeport Covid... Alors bien sûr, on est aussi sorti manifester contre la loi sécurité et son article 24... Le peuple se réveille ou s'endort toujours plus profondément car....... pendant ce temps, le 26 novembre, une proposition de résolution pour intégrer les ODD dans la Constitution a été adoptée à l'Assemblée nationale.
Seul média a faire mention de l'adoption de cette résolution, AEF, groupe de presse destiné aux décideurs : "Les députés ont adopté, par 73 voix pour et 6 contre, une proposition de résolution qui vise à faire évoluer la Constitution afin de permettre l’intégration des ODD (objectifs de développement durable) dans le processus législatif, en séance publique. Si les députés ont salué l’ambition du texte, certains ont estimé qu’il ferait doublon avec la Charte de l’environnement, ou qu’il ajouterait des contraintes inutiles au processus législatif. Le groupe LR a appelé à une réflexion sur leur intégration dans le processus budgétaire."
Doublon avec la Charte de l'environnement ? Pas seulement, dans le rapport de séance, on peut lire les propos de la députée Agnès Thill : "N’oublions pas que les objectifs en question ont été développés par une institution internationale, l’Organisation des Nations unies – ONU –, selon un cadre international, avec un regard international ; or, comme vous l’aurez remarqué, nous ne sommes pas les législateurs du monde et notre Constitution n’est pas celle du monde, mais bien de la France : à question locale, réponse locale ! Il faut accepter l’idée que des objectifs définis à New York, bien que marqués du sceau de l’ONU, puissent ne pas correspondre à nos territoires, à notre culture et à nos institutions. Stop à l’utopie des généralités, place au réalisme et aux nuances !
" Question fondamentale éludée et hop, on y va la tête la première !
Vous vous souvenez des Tex Avery ? Tant que le Coyote ne s'aperçoit pas qu'il marche dans le vide, il ne tombe pas...
I don't see why you should quit. I would rather see how far you can go and how much you can fight any attempt to fire you. Perhaps they are full of hot air and do not want to turn you into a martyr. I thought I read that the Sacramento Sheriff won't enforce the lockdown.
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Elsewhere in California resistance, my wife and I had a date night in Orange County, dining indoors at a couple different restaurants. I don't know what is the current status of shutdowns, curfews, and prohibitions around here, because plenty of restaurants and people are not obeying. No police enforcement, no county health enforcement, and defiance by the people.
Wisteria
Jedi
LongCloud, may I ask what you hoped to achieve with this comment? Telling someone who is struggling with depression to 'suck it up'? Especially when you have no idea as to their personal circumstances and the serious and very real issues they are facing in order to just survive?
I must say that no, your comment did not calm me. But it has indeed made me hesitant to share my feelings again in the future.
A group of scientists has written a retraction request and detailed debunking of the infamous Drosten-paper that started the PCR madness. It should be titled "Scientists DESTROY Drosten". Not that I understand all the detailed science in the paper, but even I do understand that this PCR test is complete, utter nonsense for a whole lot of reasons, and can't be taken seriously AT ALL, even on the most fundamental level of what it actually detects.
Will be interesting to see how the journal reacts. They will probably try to ignore it.
I encourage you to skim the report:
cormandrostenreview.com
Will be interesting to see how the journal reacts. They will probably try to ignore it.
I encourage you to skim the report:
Review report Corman-Drosten et al. Eurosurveillance 2020
This extensive review report has been officially submitted to Eurosurveillance editorial board on 27th November 2020 via their submission-portal, enclosed to this review report is a retraction request letter, signed by all the main & co-authors. First and last listed names are the first and...
cormandrostenreview.com
Don't hesitate, sometimes is needed as a cope mechanism. You as thousands, millions have been under so much stress by the psycopaths authorities. Is good that are fine and were able to talk about it here, to share it.
LongCloud, it is an ongoing tragedy that is upon pretty much the whole world with severe repercussions at present and years to come.
"Suck it up" is what psychopaths authorities are expecting from us. C's do not say that, they give us courage, to not sink into despair.
Everyone has they're own experiences, you cannot determine other's. That was rude.
The upshot of the Hotel Quarantine Enquiry in Victoria, where dodgy quarantine measures were implemented to control a dodgy virus that was detected with a dodgy test, and the dodgy quarantine was blamed for the increased number of cases detected with the dodgy test to prove that quarantine was dodgy, is that the Victorian government has come up with more stringent quarantine procedures and will use police and military instead of security guards. And they've formed a new organisation called Covid-19 Quarantine Victoria (CQV) that will report to the Minister for Police and Emergency Services.
So far no mention of quarantine camps as such, it looks like they still intend to use hotels.
The Victorian Government has unveiled a new, stronger quarantine program and a dedicated agency to oversee it enabling Victorians and visitors to safely start returning from overseas.
As part of the Government’s response to the interim report of the Hotel Quarantine Inquiry, Premier Daniel Andrews and Minister for Police and Emergency Services Lisa Neville today launched the new body and program– which has been overhauled following a root-and-branch review of the original program.
Significant changes have been made to strengthen leadership, oversight and training, embed public health and enforcement expertise, and tighten obligations for both staff and residents – to keep them and the community safe.
A dedicated agency, COVID-19 Quarantine Victoria (CQV), has been established to oversee all elements of the program – including the Frontline Worker Accommodation program (formerly known as Hotels for Heroes), mandatory quarantine for people entering Australia including Health Hotels for positive and suspected cases or close contacts, and Emergency Accommodation for local residents who need a safe place to quarantine.
It will be led by Corrections Commissioner Emma Cassar, who has been appointed as interim Commissioner of CQV and will report directly to the Minister for Police and Emergency Services.
All staff working in the program are employed or directly contracted by CQV with the exception of cleaning staff who are on secure, fixed term contracts with Alfred Health. All government staff working in the COVID-19 Accommodation program are under the command of the CQV Commissioner and all contracts for the program will be held by CQV.
Health, enforcement and operational expertise will be embedded in the executive structure of CQV, responding to a key recommendation from the interim report.
Victoria Police will boost its presence in the program, and will continue carrying out supervision, enforcement and compliance duties at all locations. They will be supported by Australian Defence Force personnel and highly trained Resident Support Officers.
Additional infection controls have been introduced, including the daily testing of staff and voluntary regular testing of their family and household members, a centralised contact tracing team, proactive contact mapping for all staff, a ban on secondary face-to-face employment for all staff and strengthened PPE protocols.
Frontline staff will work in ‘bubbles’ to ensure they only have contact with a limited number of other staff during their shift, allowing for the bubble to be taken offline with minimal impact if one staff member becomes unwell.
The Frontline Worker Accommodation program (formerly known as Hotels for Heroes) will be expanded to include those working in the COVID-19 Accommodation program. This will ensure staff, including those who have household members who work in the aged care sector, are able to access alternative accommodation if required.
Given the high-risk nature of the aged care sector, workers will be required and supported to isolate from anyone in their household who works in the aged care sector. This includes access to dedicated Frontline Worker Accommodation facilities.
Regular, independent audits will be carried out at all hotels, as recommended by the Board of Inquiry, to identify any issues or improvements and monitor compliance with best-practice infection prevention and control measures.
Unless there are medical, mental health or compassionate reasons, residents will no longer be able to leave their rooms while isolating or quarantining, including for fresh air or exercise breaks. Food and care packages from family and friends will no longer be permitted, with deliveries only accepted from accredited food services.
These measures will help restrict movement to and from quarantine accommodation and further reduce the risk of transmission between those quarantining and staff, helping to keep the Victorian community safe.
These will be tough changes for residents, which is why we’ve created a timetable of structured activities throughout their stay and increased access to specialised remote children and family friendly activities, exercise programs and mental health and wellbeing programs.
Three Deputy State Controllers with relevant experience will support the Commissioner – including new Deputy Chief Health Officer Professor Ben Cowie who has been appointed to lead health management for the program focusing on infection prevention and control, testing and contact tracing.
Deputy Commissioner Ross Guenther from Victoria Police will provide enforcement expertise, and also oversee the force’s expanded role in the program.
The third Deputy State Controller will be appointed shortly and will use their extensive operational and logistical expertise to manage critical staffing and corporate aspects of the program.
There will also be increased oversight on the ground with general managers and site managers introduced at each location, setting clear reporting lines for staff and for any resident complaints or issues.
Healthcare Australia will provide primary health services and wellbeing support across quarantine hotels, where returned travellers without symptoms are accommodated.
Alfred Health will play an expanded role in the management of health hotels, where people who have or are suspected to have coronavirus, and residents with complex care needs, are accommodated.
Stricter standards have also been introduced for cleaning and waste disposal, with cleaners and hotel staff receiving additional training.
Changes to the mandatory quarantine program have been implemented in recent months and build on the significant reset made to the program in July. New practices and standards have been comprehensively tested, and staff are well trained ahead of international flights resuming on 7 December with a cap of 160 passengers arriving each day.
The interim report of the Hotel Quarantine Inquiry made 69 recommendations about a reset of the mandatory quarantine program. The Government has accepted or accepted in principle 52 recommendations, with a further 17 recommendations under review. Thirteen of these recommendations relate to the establishment of a model for home-based quarantine, which would require agreement from National Cabinet.
A Stronger Quarantine Program To Protect What We’ve Built | Premier of Victoria
The Victorian Government has unveiled a new, stronger quarantine program and a dedicated agency to oversee it enabling Victorians and visitors to safely start returning from overseas. As part of the Government’s response to the interim report of the Hotel Quarantine Inquiry, Premier Daniel...www.premier.vic.gov.au
So far no mention of quarantine camps as such, it looks like they still intend to use hotels.
SOTTREADER
The Living Force
I enjoyed reading what you had to share!
What LongCloud said may relate more to him and his situation than you so I wouldn't take it to heart.
