There was a letter to a newspaper in Denmark and finally some sense surfacing:
Retired doctor: I would gladly sacrifice two million lives - and my own-to avoid the enormous bill for the survivors.
If it were ebola or any other serious infectious disease that would kill many more people, I would understand all these measures. Even if younger healthy subjects were involved. But it's not with covid-19.

Tom Simonsen, retired medical practitioner

I am almost 73 years old, a retired medical practitioner and one of the high-risk groups, who may be seriously ill by covid-19, as I have reduced lung function. Of course, I'd like to be treated if I get infected and get seriously ill. But…

Many are or will be infected. The vast majority have mild symptoms and recover rapidly without treatment. Some will have a complicated disease course and possibly some patients may be at risk. die of complications. These are people like me-but, in particular, even older and more sick people with several chronic diseases, cancer patients treated with chemo and other immunodeficiency patients. [...]
But one letter will not do. Each day so far, we have been waking up to a new press conference and new measures to stop the Coronavirus: Tuesday night they announced that hair dressers, physiotherapists, dentists and similar along with ordinary shops had to close for the moment until the end of June, so my sister moved an appointment with her dentist until July, then today they cancelled all the exams for all the students of high schools, universities etc. In the radio they repeat the precautions two-three times an hour. It is just like at the airport when they annonce "For security reason we ask all passengers to not leave baggage unattended etc" or at the small train station: "Don't cross the tracks, a train is coming", "Don't cross the tracks, a train is coming".

I travelled with train during "rush hours", Thursday afternoon and noticed the train schedule was irregular, the price had been hiked, almost no passengers were in the car and the stations were like it was 2 a.m. It was unreal. And when I got off the time of one clock at the station, that is usually accurate to the second showed a wrong time and the other had stopped.

Earlier in the day, I went for a walk and passed by an old church. I saw to my surprise there was life in the office, although they should be closed, and asked if we could enter. "Not really" was the reply, "we are just waiting for the carpenter to come and lock the main door, but okay you can go in and look in the outer hallway, if you are not long" We thanked for having received permission and walked into the Carmelite Priory, established in 1430 that also had been used as a hospital. I have to admit it was moving to walk around inside for even those few minutes in a place where the feet of thousands of people thinking of God have had their daily lives for several centuries, and then knowing that until further notice we would be the last, before in a few minutes the doors would be closed.

Having left the church we passed by a mural that shows the history of the local churches:
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See the pest doctor in the middle? Notice also the child being baptized in the right section. In the picture there are both young people, and old and even dying people; there are women and men, poor people and rich people. Below is a close up of the centre piece.
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People in the past went through horrible sufferings, but did not isolate themselves from living, but this is apparently what we should do now. In the radio they even gave advice that in a family or small private gathering the best would be not to eat more than four people at the same time. If there were more people it would be better to eat in shifts. Between each person there ought to be one empty chair. Rather than sitting down it would be better to stand, and still better to eat outside in fresh air. Also instead of all taking food from the pots individually, it would be better if the plates were filled in the kitchen and then distributed in order to reduce the amount of people who are near the food. Finally in the food store I visited yesterday, there are now red lines for people to keep the recommended 1.5 meters of distance when lining up for the check out. The same distance is recommended when moving around in the shops still open, using public transport etc. From a hygienic point of view it can be understood, but is that what the future of our lives is going to be like. 1.5 meter distance to all people all the time, as this Corona will not just disappear. People are now afraid of having an ordinary cold, afraid of sneezing, afraid of a running nose, and all this will only get more problematic as we with the Spring enter the season for allergies.

One article suggested people sing together, (of course not more than ten at one place), and singing actually is a good idea. I have also seen a few people enjoying the local nature area, which fortunately is still possible, as long as not more than ten people are together. Near the lake I heard two people standing in front of the water and singing.
 
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This thread is so hard to keep up with! 6 more pages since this morning. I've been reading about the people who are very angry with others who are walking in the sun and fresh air when they should be staying indoors. It made me think of this picture that may have been posted here awhile back, not sure where I saw it. During the Spanish Flu patients where placed outside in the fresh air and sunshine and these 2 things helped tremendously with their recovery. Makes good sense, maybe those sunwalkers know something.:v:🐈🌞🚴‍♀️

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You just write an attestation for yourself. It basically says: " I, hereby ME, authorize ME, to go to this place. Signed by ME". You even need it to go walk your dog outside your house.

OMG! That is hilarious! "I hereby decree that genero81 is in need of toilet paper and will henceforth depart to Walmart at 6am in an attempt to outmaneuver all the other pleebs who are also trying to obtain this vital commodity on this 20th day of March 2020." Signed, genero81

Is that the idea?
 
I do a separate thread on purpose to catch the attention of forum members.

An information is hidden from the public but Trump let the cat go out the bag today. A 2€ medicine do exist for this virus.
Chinese did the study and used it, so professor Raoult who is one of the best expert about infectious disasters did a study too and confirmed Chines results. So now Trump, in a move I would not think would be possible, want to use it. The medicine act like the sodium bicarbonate by changing the pH.

The medicine reduce the viral load. Associate with an antibiotic patients recover in 6 days. See the graph of the trial:
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Interview of Didier Raoult:

By the way:
In June 2014, in Le Point, Raoult estimates that "After a significant thermal surge in the 1990s, the Earth has generally stopped warming since 1998. "Then he concludes that "global warming is uncertain and human responsibility is questionable". In newspaper Le Monde, science journalist Stéphane Foucart criticizes him as one of those who propagate "climatic hoaxes".
 
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OMG! That is hilarious! "I hereby decree that genero81 is in need of toilet paper and will henceforth depart to Walmart at 6am in an attempt to outmaneuver all the other pleebs who are also trying to obtain this vital commodity on this 20th day of March 2020." Signed, genero81

Is that the idea?

Not exactly, you have to choose from the 5 authorized reasons :
basicaly:
1) for work (if essential or can't be postpone) ;
2) buying essential goods ;
3) for health reasons ;
4) assisting a person in need ;
5) short moving near your house for physical activity (alone) or to walk your dog.
 
You just write an attestation for yourself. It basically says: " I, hereby ME, authorize ME, to go to this place. Signed by ME". You even need it to go walk your dog outside your house.

I know it's crazy. But after all we've been living in a crazy world for a while, it just got crazier a notch or two over the past few weeks.

Hahahaha.

Here they just betray that this is fake.
I've seen quite a bit of crazy in this tread, but this one takes the cake
 
Not exactly, you have to choose from the 5 authorized reasons :
basicaly:
1) for work (if essential or can't be postpone) ;
2) buying essential goods ;
3) for health reasons ;
4) assisting a person in need ;
5) short moving near your house for physical activity (alone) or to walk your dog.

O.k is that officer going to walk with you to check you do what the paper says, lol.
 
The other thing I forgot to mention was that the Prime Minister in her daily update advised all citizens to not listen to any "misinformation" from the internet and to only trust what the government says. Even to the point of their setting up an official Covid19 website. The site supposedly is the only place when you an find out the truth, everything else is not to be trusted. Trust us, we will see you right

They have said basically the same thing here.
 
There was a letter to a newspaper in Denmark and finally some sense surfacing:

But one letter will not do. Each day so far, we have been waking up to a new press conference and new measures to stop the Coronavirus: Tuesday night they announced that hair dressers, physiotherapists, dentists and similar along with ordinary shops had to close for the moment until the end of June, so my sister moved an appointment with her dentist until July, then today they cancelled all the exams for all the students of high schools, universities etc. In the radio they repeat the precautions two-three times an hour. It is just like at the airport when they annonce "For security reason we ask all passengers to not leave baggage unattended etc" or at the small train station: "Don't cross the tracks, a train is coming", "Don't cross the tracks, a train is coming".

I travelled with train during "rush hours", Thursday afternoon and noticed the train schedule was irregular, the price had been hiked, almost no passengers were in the car and the stations were like it was 2 a.m. It was unreal. And when I got off the time of one clock at the station, that is usually accurate to the second showed a wrong time and the other had stopped.

Earlier in the day, I went for a walk and passed by an old church. I saw to my surprise there was life in the office, although they should be closed, and asked if we could enter. "Not really" was the reply, "we are just waiting for the carpenter to come and lock the main door, but okay you can go in and look in the outer hallway, if you are not long" We thanked for having received permission and walked into the Carmelite Priory, established in 1430 that also had been used as a hospital. I have to admit it was moving to walk around inside for even those few minutes in a place where the feet of thousands of people thinking of God have had their daily lives for several centuries, and then knowing that until further notice we would be the last, before in a few minutes the doors would be closed.

Having left the church we passed by a mural that shows the history of the local churches:
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See the pest doctor in the middle? Notice also the child being baptized in the right section. In the picture there are both young people, and old and even dying people; there are women and men, poor people and rich people. Below is a close up of the centre piece.
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People in the past went through horrible sufferings, but did not isolate themselves from living, but this is apparently what we should do now. In the radio they even gave advice that in a family or small private gathering the best would be not to eat more than four people at the same time. If there were more people it would be better to eat in shifts. Between each person there ought to be one empty chair. Rather than sitting down it would be better to stand, and still better to eat outside in fresh air. Also instead of all taking food from the pots individually, it would be better if the plates were filled in the kitchen and then distributed in order to reduce the amount of people who are near the food. Finally in the food store I visited yesterday, there are now red lines for people to keep the recommended 1.5 meters of distance when lining up for the check out. The same distance is recommended when moving around in the shops still open, using public transport etc. From a hygienic point of view it can be understood, but is that what the future of our lives is going to be like. 1.5 meter distance to all people all the time, as this Corona will not just disappear. People are now afraid of having an ordinary cold, afraid of sneezing, afraid of a running nose, and all this will only get more problematic as we with the Spring enter the season for allergies.

One article suggested people sing together, (of course not more than ten at one place), and singing actually is a good idea. I have also seen a few people enjoying the local nature area, which fortunately is still possible, as long as not more than ten people are together. Near the lake I heard two people standing in front of the water and singing.

Some years back, while working on a project in conjunction with the head of the history department at a major university, we spent some time going over the a history of the black plague. From my notes, it would appear that there was a reasonable argument to be made that Milan, which suffered significantly lower death counts than their contemporaries may have achieved those results through employing draconian practices -many of which mirror the Chinese tactics in modern day. Considering the level of knowledge about pathogens at the time, those practices might be considered quite advanced, at least in terms of execution, if not biological understanding.

"Restrictions on imports and exports, travel, market trading and funerals were all brought in, but again to no effect. At least 70% of the population died. But by contrast, another northern city, Milan, avoided a major outbreak. Whether this was due to control measures taken by city authorities, including sealing up three houses (with the occupants inside) after plague was discovered there, is debatable. The Milanese authorities could certainly be firm. From 1350 they decreed that all future plague victims and those nursing them would be isolated in a designated pesthouse built outside the city walls."

 
My wife had to do some errands this morning and when she was back, she was in a sort of shock(she will probably share her experience later on). She should not pay in money because nobody wanted to touch the money and because they told her that from now on, they can not accept money and you can pay only by card either credit or debit.

We went for a long walk this afternoon and stopped to buy a snack at a coffee shop. We couldn't go in the shop as they restaurants and cafes are only allowed to do take out orders so they had a little desk set up at the door and they were making the orders and handing them out the window to people who were waiting out on the porch. We ordered a snack and my wife was going to pay with cash and the guy looked at her like she was crazy and crossed his hands in front of him and said "Oh no! We're not taking cash right now! Trying to stop the spread of the virus!". So she paid with a credit card and tried to give a tip and he held out a jar so she could drop it in without him touching it. He was wearing the same vinyl gloves that he wore while he waited on the 2 or 3 customers before us and all I could think of was that the virus lives on plastic for up to 3 days and paper for 24 hours. He didn't change his gloves in between customers so there's probably more risk of spreading it around on the plastic credit cards than the "dirty" paper money. 🙄
 
Yes, in a way, it is torture to observe it all happening in real time, like watching a very slow train wreck. But we have been told that the best approach to these times is to "sit back and enjoy the show" and that the challenge of living through this turmoil can produce ecstasy. I guess that's going to be true if all we do is have to deal with our everyday affairs just to get through it.

Like so many of you, I'm sick to death of this slow torture, this "death by a thousand cuts". Let's get the darn show on the road!

YES! Couldn't have said it better.
 
We went for a long walk this afternoon and stopped to buy a snack at a coffee shop. We couldn't go in the shop as they restaurants and cafes are only allowed to do take out orders so they had a little desk set up at the door and they were making the orders and handing them out the window to people who were waiting out on the porch. We ordered a snack and my wife was going to pay with cash and the guy looked at her like she was crazy and crossed his hands in front of him and said "Oh no! We're not taking cash right now! Trying to stop the spread of the virus!". So she paid with a credit card and tried to give a tip and he held out a jar so she could drop it in without him touching it. He was wearing the same vinyl gloves that he wore while he waited on the 2 or 3 customers before us and all I could think of was that the virus lives on plastic for up to 3 days and paper for 24 hours. He didn't change his gloves in between customers so there's probably more risk of spreading it around on the plastic credit cards than the "dirty" paper money. 🙄


Ye hahahah, the world is upside down, made me instanly think of this one, lol.

 
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