Coronavirus Pandemic: Apocalypse Now! Or exaggerated scare story?

Abats

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When Elon Musk said that he was going to be releasing patents last year to help 'save the world', I wondered if he had patents to viruses.

I just found this weird patent about coronavirus US Patent for Coronavirus Patent (Patent # 10,130,701 issued November 20, 2018) - Justia Patents Search

The present invention provides a live, attenuated coronavirus comprising a variant replicase gene encoding polyproteins comprising a mutation in one or more of non-structural protein(s) (nsp)-10, nsp-14, nsp-15 or nsp-16. The coronavirus may be used as a vaccine for treating and/or preventing a disease, such as infectious bronchitis, in a subject.
 

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BEIJING — The death toll from a new flu-like coronavirus in China rose from nine to 17 on Wednesday, state media reported, as authorities all but shut down the metropolis of 11 million people where the outbreak is believed to have begun.
 

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This is escalating rapidly - Wuhan is in lockdown now.

What is so special about Wuhan anyway?


Coronavirus infections in China feared to be more widespread than officially reported, Wuhan in lockdown

China is putting on lockdown a city of 11 million people considered the epicentre of the new coronavirus outbreak that has killed 17 and infected nearly 600 people, as health authorities around the world work to prevent a global pandemic.

Key points:
  • Officials have confirmed 571 cases of the virus and 17 deaths
  • Medical staff in Wuhan say they are overwhelmed with sick patients
  • The ABC understands one hospital alone is treating about 300 patients

The Chinese city of Wuhan, the source of an outbreak of a new flu-like virus, is closing its transport networks and has advised citizens not to leave the city as the death toll rose steeply overnight.

Hospitals in Wuhan are reportedly dealing with huge numbers of sick patients, raising fears the new coronavirus is spreading faster than official reports suggest.

Bus, subway, ferry and long-distance passenger transportation networks will be suspended from 10am (local time), and the airport and train stations will be closed to outgoing passengers, state TV said.

Meanwhile, a flight from Wuhan has arrived in Sydney, where passenger will be subject to additional individual screening by nurses, doctors and biosecurity staff for symptoms of the highly contagious virus.


The Foreign Affairs Department updated their official travel advice for China this morning and warned Australians to reconsider their need to travel to Wuhan, following the outbreak of the deadly virus.

The advice noted new measures put in place by Chinese authorities to try to stop the spread of coronavirus.

It includes advice to wear masks in public places, and avoiding travel in and out of Wuhan.

The Matildas' Olympic qualifiers also have been moved from Wuhan to Nanjing as the city has gone in lockdown.

Wuhan is the most populated city in central China with 11 million people.

There are now 571 cases of novel coronavirus reported across China, with 17 confirmed deaths — almost double that reported a day earlier — according to reports in the country's state media, Xinhua, the China Daily newspaper and Reuters.

The previous report pointed to nine deaths.

Abroad, Thailand has confirmed four cases, while the United States, Taiwan, South Korea and Japan have reported one each.

Authorities say they have also confirmed 2,197 cases where people have had close contact with patients.

This comes as the state-owned Global Times newspaper in an editorial appeared to lash authorities in Wuhan for being slow to report the virus had spread to medical workers — a key sign of human-to-human transmission and potential "super-spreaders".

The number of confirmed coronavirus cases includes dozens of people in Beijing, Shanghai, Guangdong province and Zhejiang province, with the majority in central Hubei province, where the city of Wuhan is located.

However, according to messages in a private WeChat group for Chinese medical professionals viewed by the ABC, one hospital in Wuhan has been overwhelmed with patients, with nearly 300 people in that facility alone exhibiting symptoms of the coronavirus.


PHOTO: Wuhan medical staff said in a private WeChat group they were concerned the number of infections would jump. (Reuters)

The information from the group is difficult to independently verify — the ABC made multiple attempts to contact hospitals in Wuhan to ask about the reports, but received no response.

Video footage appeared to back up the reports, showing large lines of patients wearing face masks at a hospital in Wuhan, crowding the wards as doctors moved through checking on them.

Analysis from Imperial College London last week suggested the Wuhan outbreak could have led to more than 1,700 cases, a significantly higher figure than what has been officially reported.

Experts in Hong Kong have suggested the number could be closer to 1,300.


PHOTO: Wuhan' Tianhe International Airport before the transport lockdown this morning. (ABC News: Brant Cumming)

People posting in the group also expressed concern the coronavirus had spread to the city of Nanjing in Jiangsu province.

However, authorities in the city said such statements were "rumours", and no cases had been reported at any of the city's hospitals.

SARS cover-up driving fears
Chinese authorities have been at pains to ensure their response to the outbreak has been as transparent as possible, no doubt in light of the backlash they faced over their handling of the SARS epidemic.


PHOTO: Children and adults wore face masks to protect themselves from the coronavirus at the the airport in Wuhan. (ABC News: Brant Cumming)

Officials had initially tried to hide the real number of cases of the deadly disease, leading to the sacking of China's then health minister and Beijing's mayor.

The epidemic saw more than 8,000 SARS cases across 37 countries, resulting in 774 deaths.

In a daily press conference on Tuesday, Foreign Ministry spokesperson Geng Shuang said China had been "acting with openness, transparency and a high sense of responsibility towards global health security".

He said China was sharing information on the epidemic with the World Health Organisation (WHO), which held an emergency meeting about the outbreak and its potential global consequences in Geneva on Wednesday evening (local time).

During the meeting the WHO said it would decide on Thursday whether to declare a global emergency over the outbreak of the virus spreading from China.

If it does so it will be only the sixth international emergency to be declared in the last decade.


PHOTO: People who have contracted the Wuhan coronavirus are being kept in medical facilities across the city. (AP: Dake Kang)

"The decision is one I take extremely seriously," WHO director-general Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said, adding that he was only prepared to make it with the appropriate amount of consideration and information.

He was speaking after the WHO held a day-long meeting of an independent panel of experts in Geneva on Wednesday.


WHO spokesman Tarik Jasarevic said new cases of the coronavirus would appear as China stepped up monitoring.

The WHO said an animal source appeared most likely to be the primary source of this outbreak.

In Australia, one man in Brisbane was briefly placed in isolation after returning from Wuhan with flu-like symptoms, but subsequently released.

Hong Kong has reported 118 suspected cases, according to the South China Morning Post; however, 88 of those people have since been discharged.

Macau, another special administrative region of China, also announced its first confirmed case of the virus on Wednesday.


PHOTO: With concern about the virus growing, it has become harder to buy facemasks. (AP: Mark Schiefelbein)
 

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As mentioned in New Light on the Black Death: The Viral and Cosmic Connection -- Sott.net

In a letter to Lancet [1],Wickramasinghe explains that a small amount of a virus introduced into the stratosphere could make a first tentative fallout east of the great mountain range of the Himalayas, where the stratosphere is thinnest, followed by sporadic deposits in neighboring areas. Could this explain why new strains of the influenza virus that are capable of engendering epidemics, and which are caused by radical genetic mutations, usually originate in Asia? Wickramasinghe argues that if the virus is only minimally infective, the subsequent course of its global progress will depend on stratospheric transport and mixing, leading to a fallout continuing seasonally over a few years; even if all reasonable attempts are made to contain an infective spread, the appearance of new foci almost anywhere is a possibility.

Maybe the Sars virus was the original embryo and as you know, some very much like to turn anything into a weapon or tool for some nefarius intend.

As jsf point with this artical, some were very interested back then to get their hands on it

and there is this,


When I first read it yesterday, I couln't stop thinking at what was happening in Wuhan and to whom he was talking and what Trump was telling them, as if there was a message beind the message. Wonder if Bill Gate was there, Eugénisme anyone. Anyways, let wait and see.
 

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Funny thing about that patent info is that it says "Coronaviruses are believed to cause a significant percentage of all common colds in human adults." I read a comment today that didn't give any back up links, so I'm not sure if it's true or not, but the claim was that Corona virus is just the cold virus and while it's more likely to be lethal to animals because it can cause gastrointestinal infections, to people it's just a cold. A cold could be life threatening to some people but no big deal to most. In any case, I wonder if this is all just scare tactics because they're on the verge of releasing vaccinations for the common cold?
 

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Now there's a story that people eating raw bat offal in China could be part of the cause of this virus spreading. And there's also a claim by Chinese scientists that snakes could be behind it too. But there are pictures of people putting a dead, uncooked bat into a bowl of soup and eating the soup. I really don't understand how anyone could think to eat a raw bat...

 

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If I understand correctly, at this point the death rate of this new type of coronavirus is about 3%. According to the media, in most cases the fatal outcome has been registered mostly among elderly men who had health problems. For comparison, the death rate of Ebola is about 90%. But I guess we will have to wait and see how the situation develops.
 

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As mentioned in New Light on the Black Death: The Viral and Cosmic Connection -- Sott.net

In a letter to Lancet [1],Wickramasinghe explains that a small amount of a virus introduced into the stratosphere could make a first tentative fallout east of the great mountain range of the Himalayas, where the stratosphere is thinnest, followed by sporadic deposits in neighboring areas. Could this explain why new strains of the influenza virus that are capable of engendering epidemics, and which are caused by radical genetic mutations, usually originate in Asia? Wickramasinghe argues that if the virus is only minimally infective, the subsequent course of its global progress will depend on stratospheric transport and mixing, leading to a fallout continuing seasonally over a few years; even if all reasonable attempts are made to contain an infective spread, the appearance of new foci almost anywhere is a possibility.

This is in line with the US concept of ‘contactless warfare’…

Western countries take Russian biological material
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Thu Oct 04, 2018 - Russian MoD: Dozens of Georgians Likely Killed by US Toxin or Bioweapon Disguised as Drug Research

The Russian official said the new documents “allow us to take a fresh look” at outbreaks of African swine fever in Southern Russia in 2007-2018, which “spread from the territory of Georgia into the Russian Federation, European nations and China. The infection strain in the samples collected from animals killed by the disease in those nations was “identical to the Georgia-2007 strain”.

The general added that the Lugar Center in Georgia is simply part of a large network of Pentagon-controlled laboratories involved in WMD research, which was established in countries neighboring Russia.


And Post # 15:
Here Keit's thread about a similar topic:
Putin: "Someone is collecting biological data of Russians"

The first case of African Swine Fever appeared in August of 2018 which infected 55 percent of China's hog herds in 2019.

Disease that killed millions of China's pigs poses global threat
China has lost millions of pigs in outbreaks of the disease, pushing its pork prices to record highs, forcing purchases of costly imports and roiling global meat markets.

[...] African swine fever has spread to Southeast Asia and eastern Europe, with cases found in Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, Korea, Myanmar, the Philippines, Poland, Belgium and Bulgaria.

African swine fever does not threaten humans but there’s no vaccine or cure for infected pigs.

In China, the top global pork consumer,
the disease has been devastating. The exact number of hog deaths is not known. Rabobank estimated the country lost up to 55% of its pig herd last year. But the Chinese government has reported smaller losses in the country’s $1 trillion hog sector since the first case in August 2018.

Factbox: Major severe coronavirus outbreaks in the past 20 years

* SARS-CoV - Cases of Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome, or or SARS, first emerged in 2002 in China.

SARS symptoms included fever, chills, and body aches and usually progressed to pneumonia. No cases of SARS have been reported since 2004, according to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).

* MERS-CoV - The Middle East Respiratory Syndrome Coronavirus first emerged in Saudi Arabia in 2012.

Symptoms include fever, cough and shortness of breath, often leading to pneumonia.

* 2019-CoV - The novel coronavirus that has already infected more than 300 people in China.

Common symptoms include fever, cough and breathing difficulties.

Greek Prime Minister Kyriakos Mitsotakis attends a session at the 50th World Economic Forum (WEF) annual meeting in Davos, Switzerland, January 23, 2020. REUTERS/Denis Balibouse
* 2019-CoV out break just happens to coincide with the 50th Anniversary of the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland. What are the repercussions to China's economy due to COV?

Beijing cancels New Year events to curb virus spread: Beijing News
Chinese movies scrap Lunar New Year premieres due to virus outbreak
China suspends shuttle buses, ferries into Wuhan due to coronavirus
Millions on virus lockdown in China as WHO weighs response
Beijing's Forbidden City to be closed to tourists amid virus outbreak: People's Daily
China's Wuhan shuts down transport as global alarm mounts over virus spread
China aviation regulator says passengers can get full refunds for flight tickets nationwide
Britain says death toll from new coronavirus in China likely to rise
(How would Britain ... know?)
Wuhan lockdown 'unprecedented', shows commitment to contain virus: WHO representative in China
Factbox: WHO expert panel to decide whether new virus is an emergency
WHO says will decide on Thursday if China virus is a global health emergency
Work to start on three possible China virus vaccines: epidemic response group
The shadow of SARS: China learned the hard way how to handle an epidemic


On the Political end ...
U.S. Secretary of State cautions nations against taking 'easy money' from China
FILE PHOTO: U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo speaks during a joint news conference with Costa Rica's President Carlos Alvarado (not pictured) at the Presidential house in San Jose, Costa Rica January 21, 2020. REUTERS/Juan Carlos Ulate
U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, on a visit to Jamaica on Wednesday, cautioned nations against taking "easy money" from China, warning it could be counterproductive, in a second attack in as many days against China's economic role in the region.

Saudi Arabia outbreak:


* MERS-CoV - The Middle East Respiratory Syndrome Coronavirus first emerged in Saudi Arabia in 2012.

On the Political end ...
CEOs should still do work with Saudi Arabia despite report: Mnuchin
FILE PHOTO: U.S. Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin attends a session during the 50th World Economic Forum (WEF) annual meeting in Davos, Switzerland, January 22, 2020. REUTERS/Denis Balibouse
American business executives should still do business with Saudi Arabia, U.S. Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin said on Thursday after
a report on the kingdom's possible involvement in the hacking of Amazon CEO and Washington Post owner Jeff Bezos' phone.

(Question ... And who worked for the Washington Post, was assassinated in an Embassy (journalist Jamal Khashoggi) and hacked to pieces AND who was blamed (Saudi Prince MBS)?

Saudi foreign minister calls claim that Crown Prince hacked Bezos phone 'absurd'
U.N. experts demand probe into alleged Saudi hack of Amazon boss Bezos
Saudi prince had 'possible involvement' in hacking of Bezos phone: U.N. experts
 

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After checking out the research on Intelligent Design, I'm more inclined to think that a new viral strain engendering a dangerous epidemic because humanity's immune system has not encountered that strain before, is likely to have made a down fall from the stratosphere, courtesy of cometary input. A new strain could merge with an already existing one though.

Bioweapons might be designed, but they are not that creative. They still have to use what is already available. And more often than not, they just break things. Even HIV has not proved to live to its expectations according to "evolutionary" theory.
 

Abats

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It reminds me of the synopsis of the movie Contagion (2011) where a bat is involved


You wanna see maybe this question on Quora

In Contagion, how did the bat get infected? - Quora

Contagion had three key sources of inspiration, which help us reasonably determine the likely source of the bat's exposure to a virus:

  1. The multiple pandemic scares of the 2000s, including SARS, bird flu, and swine flu, which serve as a major source of inspiration;
  2. Nipah virus, a Henipavirus with a human mortality rate of about 60%, which serves as another major source of inspiration;
  3. The general history and fear of Ebola, a disease that inspired the previous medical thriller (far less realistic than Contagion, but still similar) Outbreak, which serves as a secondary minor source of inspiration.
 
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