COVID testing in work

[Ruth]

That’s a tricky one to decide. Maybe you can inquire more about what they will do if you test positive. From what we’ve heard and read, if you test positive (be it real or false positive), they could arrange a ‘Spanish inquisition’ wanting to know who you’ve been in contact with the past weeks, maybe putting you and others in quarantine etc.

Yes, very likely. This was offered at my work because our State Government wanted to test a whole bunch of people. I work health care, casual, and we've already been really hard hit by this COVID19 mismanagement hysteria.

Our Director of Nursing said that if anyone tests positive or has had contact with anyone who's tested positive and has to self isolate, they will be 'supported'..... I wrote back to him and said basically: "What about us (casuals)? We've already had a drastic reduction in work, and we haven't felt terribly 'supported'". He replied that they were thinking of funding all those people who could work (normally) and didn't get work, and maybe even giving back-pay.

Well, I'll believe it when I see it. It sounds good. I suppose we'll all be waiting until pigs to fly, or Christmas - which ever happens first. They'll probably only pay the ones they 'like', i.e. not me because I have 'opinions.'

Apparently, people who are already disadvantaged by COVID-19 (casuals) are expected to drop everything and go and do something that runs the risk of disadvantaging them even more (like testing, or admitting to contact with a place or person involved in, or associated with an outbreak). Sometimes I think management are either incredibly naive or a bit simple. I know for a fact that senior management are mostly pretty good people. Some middle management tend to play politics and are as tight as sparrows bums when it comes to giving out money. And, I already know how good they are at Spanish Inquisitions'. Well, I guess we'll see. I've become quite cynical since I've been casual at this health care service. Apparently I'm supposed to be all excited this year because it's the Year of the Nurse. Sometimes it feels more like the Year of the Cow, the way they treat us.

We are also required to fill out flu vaccine declination forms if we don't want the stupid jab, because the State Government thinks that all vaccinations (especially ones that don't work) are holy and therefore magical. I have to decline in writing and put reasons. For supporting evidence, this year, I sent them a copy of the journal article done by the US DoD, asking why would you put us more at risk of contracting Coronavirus. I haven't heard back yet.

One thing different about this year is that because of 'social distancing' there's been no people from Infection Control, (or roped in minions) chasing us round with trolleys full of flu vaccines, or standing at the door waiting to jab us when we come in. I wonder if it will effect their numbers. I hope it does, and it should.

 

[Crunging]

It is not mandatory, but I think it is a matter of convenience, if you are not against then you should do the test since it'll help them analyze the true data of infections.

 

[Jones]

It is not mandatory, but I think it is a matter of convenience, if you are not against then you should do the test since it'll help them analyze the true data of infections.

Hi Crunging, I notice that this is your first post in the forum. I'd like to invite you to write an introductory post in the Newbies forum to tell us a bit about yourself and how you found your way here.

 

[loreta]

I might be wrong here but have we not all given blood at one time or other. Will they not have details of our DNA in data banks collected over the years or at least our blood groups which I'm sure they have been amassing.
Just guessing.

Yes, they have all this already. But maybe they will do something about the blood of these tests. Can they use these samples to do a vaccine against types of blood, can they do experiments with the blood? Why are they so fanatical with these dammed tests? Is it another experiment they are doing with people? How many accepted the test, where, what type of work, witch city, age, etc? They have a Nazi mentality, so they love experimenting.

It is hard to answer you question liam 1310 because we know what it is all around a question like this. Alejo gave you a good advice I think so.

 

[liam1310]

Got a message from the office today. They say it's not mandatory but a recommendation. Im not doing it, So looks like I've dodged that bullet for now. Appreciate the advice guys thanks. Will report if anything changes.

 

[beetlemaniac]

Just for your information, the COVID test that I did did not involve a blood draw but a nasopharyngeal and oropharyngeal swab. They basically stuck a long cotton bud up my nose and it went really deep, then another one in the mouth. It's basically an RT-PCR test. It came back negative for me. The following is a snapshot of the report:

 

[Gary]

Thanks for raising this issue Liam. I work part-time in a UK care home and yesterday the manager asked me if I wanted to be tested for coronavirus. It is 'optional' (at the moment anyway) although the residents (or inmates as they class themselves) will all be tested next week.

There are PPE protocols in place including having to wear a face mask. I have chatted openly in the staff room about the increased contamination risks of wearing the damn things, with some positive feedback. Ultimately however these decisions are made by the Chief Executive who follows guidance from Public Health England.

I thought if they find antibodies then I'll say, "Hey, I don't need a vaccine, I am naturally immune!", if and when that day comes. On the other hand, like some of you mentioned, if I test positive then I don't know whether they will ask me to self-quarantine and/or go around investigating who I had been in contact with and quarantine them too. So I decided against it.

Anyway, I politely declined the offer generally for the reasons Alana and others have mentioned. I also have reservations about how effective the testing kits are.

Coronavirus testing kits heading to the UK found to be contaminated with Covid-19 1 day ago

Testing kits which were headed to the UK have been found to be contaminated with coronavirus. The Government has said that it aims to boost the rate of tests to 25,000 every day by the end of April at the latest and has asked private companies to...

www.sott.net

 

[SevenFeathers]

Here is a discussion with Dr. Andy Kaufman and Dr. Sherry Tenpenny about how testing was done and the kinds of testing now being used. It's a long video, but the testing discussion starts about minute 18.

 

[beetlemaniac]

Recently, I received a call from a representative from the Ministry of Health who wanted to check on my results. The funny thing is I did my test at a private hospital. I didn't realize that they were feeding information to some government system, but it looks like they have it all set up behind the scenes. I really thought that there was no connection between private and government healthcare systems and my data would be confined to the hospital's database. So big brother is a real spectre even in developing countries now.

If you remember Bangladesh is also receiving this brave new world with open arms with Bill Gates' initiatives GAVI and ID2020:

The program to leverage immunization as an opportunity to establish digital identity was unveiled by ID2020 in partnership with the Bangladesh Government's Access to Information (a2i) Program, the Directorate General of Health Services, and Gavi, according to the announcement.

Digital identity is a computerized record of who a person is, stored in a registry. It is used, in this case, to keep track of who has received vaccination.

"We are implementing a forward-looking approach to digital identity that gives individuals control over their own personal information, while still building off existing systems and programs," says Anir Chowdhury, policy advisor at a2i. "The Government of Bangladesh recognizes that the design of digital identity systems carries far-reaching implications for individuals' access to services and livelihoods, and we are eager to pioneer this approach."

Gavi CEO Seth Berkley says that 89 percent of children and adolescents who do not have identification live in countries where the organization is active. "We are enthusiastic about the potential impact of this program not just in Bangladesh, but as something we can replicate across Gavi-eligible countries, providing a viable route to closing the identity gap," he says.

ID2020 and partners launch program to provide digital ID with vaccines -- Sott.net

Malaysia already had introduced a national Identity card system which has a chip on it and is able to store information since 5th September 2001 (How close to 9/11 is that? These changes seem to be implemented very close to these marker events). Previous to that it was just a plastic card that had your details on it. I don't know where this is all going, really. Bodes ill for all nations collectively. I hadn't really thought much about our identification system but do you think it could be a long term plan all along? Digital systems just increase the governments ability to track you but they also help with crime prevention, in identifying suspects of crimes and so on. But maybe each country has their own reasons for implementing national ID policies, and their implementations are different. This article talks about the extremes of the Nazi era when Jews were given IDs to easily track them among other nefarious purposes by other regimes around the world.

The Worst is Yet to Come: Contact Tracing, Immunity Cards and Mass Testing

"The things we were worried would happen are happening." — Angus Johnston, professor at the City University of New York No one is safe. No one is immune. No one gets spared the anguish, fear and heartache of living under the shadow of an...

www.sott.net

The US citizen has strongly resisted National ID systems and have traditionally used driver's licenses for identification, but will that change after COVID-19? The thing is that people are already being tracked through a myriad of ways be it through smartphones, credit card transactions, and so on, that adding another tracking/identification system, I suppose would mean that the US government is closing the gap in terms of totalitarian control, and bringing it another step closer to ID2020 and forced vaccinations.

There are no protests to speak of against the lockdown here, but not everyone is wearing masks. It is good to know that people in the US and Australia are protesting the lockdown and ID2020. I am going to echo the protesters and say jail Bill Gates. It's such a confused mess though when he is also a victim of mind programming as the C's have said. This whole farce seems to be a direct product of 4DSTS meddling, with these people only being pawns. I assume though that there are others in on this as well at a higher level such as the Rockefellers et al, and maybe Mossad? It's all speculation but just putting some thoughts out there. Thanks for reading.

Edit: re. forced vaccinations @nicklebleu recently wrote a really good article on it that I would highly recommend. It's purely based on facts and prevailing knowledge. It helped clear quite a bit of confusion and obfuscation about the issue.

The Rocky and Potentially Costly Road to a SARS-CoV-2 Vaccine

Since the start of the Covid-19 crisis, a lot of talk has centered around the development of a SARS-CoV-2 vaccine. Some countries, like New Zealand, have suggested that they won't open up their borders for international travel until a vaccine is...

www.sott.net

 

[liam1310]

Recently, I received a call from a representative from the Ministry of Health who wanted to check on my results. The funny thing is I did my test at a private hospital. I didn't realize that they were feeding information to some government system, but it looks like they have it all set up behind the scenes. I really thought that there was no connection between private and government healthcare systems and my data would be confined to the hospital's database. So big brother is a real spectre even in developing countries now.

If you remember Bangladesh is also receiving this brave new world with open arms with Bill Gates' initiatives GAVI and ID2020:



Malaysia already had introduced a national Identity card system which has a chip on it and is able to store information since 5th September 2001 (How close to 9/11 is that? These changes seem to be implemented very close to these marker events). Previous to that it was just a plastic card that had your details on it. I don't know where this is all going, really. Bodes ill for all nations collectively. I hadn't really thought much about our identification system but do you think it could be a long term plan all along? Digital systems just increase the governments ability to track you but they also help with crime prevention, in identifying suspects of crimes and so on. But maybe each country has their own reasons for implementing national ID policies, and their implementations are different. This article talks about the extremes of the Nazi era when Jews were given IDs to easily track them among other nefarious purposes by other regimes around the world.

The Worst is Yet to Come: Contact Tracing, Immunity Cards and Mass Testing

"The things we were worried would happen are happening." — Angus Johnston, professor at the City University of New York No one is safe. No one is immune. No one gets spared the anguish, fear and heartache of living under the shadow of an...

www.sott.net

The US citizen has strongly resisted National ID systems and have traditionally used driver's licenses for identification, but will that change after COVID-19? The thing is that people are already being tracked through a myriad of ways be it through smartphones, credit card transactions, and so on, that adding another tracking/identification system, I suppose would mean that the US government is closing the gap in terms of totalitarian control, and bringing it another step closer to ID2020 and forced vaccinations.

There are no protests to speak of against the lockdown here, but not everyone is wearing masks. It is good to know that people in the US and Australia are protesting the lockdown and ID2020. I am going to echo the protesters and say jail Bill Gates. It's such a confused mess though when he is also a victim of mind programming as the C's have said. This whole farce seems to be a direct product of 4DSTS meddling, with these people only being pawns. I assume though that there are others in on this as well at a higher level such as the Rockefellers et al, and maybe Mossad? It's all speculation but just putting some thoughts out there. Thanks for reading.

Edit: re. forced vaccinations @nicklebleu recently wrote a really good article on it that I would highly recommend. It's purely based on facts and prevailing knowledge. It helped clear quite a bit of confusion and obfuscation about the issue.

The Rocky and Potentially Costly Road to a SARS-CoV-2 Vaccine

Since the start of the Covid-19 crisis, a lot of talk has centered around the development of a SARS-CoV-2 vaccine. Some countries, like New Zealand, have suggested that they won't open up their borders for international travel until a vaccine is...

www.sott.net

Tests results over here are being shared with employers first. Employer phones employee with results. Lots of complaints from people, government say the will "suspend sending results to some emplyers" not all employers just some.

HSE suspends practice of notifying some employers of Covid test results before informing employees

HSE Chief Executive Paul Reid said he was aware of one case where test results were shared with an employer.

www.thejournal.ie

From article
“This course of action would only be considered where it was considered essential for the public health good in all the circumstances. This also would be a decision made by Public Health if it was considered in the best interest of the employee or a group of employees at the time, usually in the context of the investigation of an outbreak and limiting onward transmission of infection.”

Latest from Corbett report, how government are hunting the infected.

 

[bianca etezete]

Just for your information, the COVID test that I did did not involve a blood draw but a nasopharyngeal and oropharyngeal swab. They basically stuck a long cotton bud up my nose and it went really deep, then another one in the mouth. It's basically an RT-PCR test. It came back negative for me. The following is a snapshot of the report:

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I researched just that. Since I live in a city with many big and huge labs, I looked for those who do testings, to find out how they test. I found something. Under this link [ http://labor-augsburg-mvz.de/aktuelles/coro-Conavirus ] if you scoll down to the post of 3rd of april you can read (in german) about the "report layout" being changed. Previously one test had two results, one for the testing for SARS-CoV-2 specifically (ORF1), and one for the coronavirus in (almost) general (E-Gen). And NOW they are giving out ONE positive test result when only ONE of the two is positive! Wow. Wonder what that does to the figures... Of course this is a recommendation of the WHO.

 

[Michael B-C]

I think its great that on this particular topic everyone is having a chance outside the intensity of the COVID thread to share on this, so thanks Liam for opening - as it's about sharing thoughts and feelings rather than collected date, so its a valuable break out space on a specific topic of individual concern - before once again diving back into the swelling tide.

I really appreciate everyone's concerns - and of course I share them. But I think we should always also try to remember no one does cock-up better than the system, no one is more confused, contradictory, baroque, morose... stupid! Lost! Incapable! I mean for all the grotesquery and shock doctrine horror - what a mess! And these are the people, the botched and bewildered system, that is going to manage to corner you soon? Sure, it depends from work place to workplace and I can see those like yourself Liam who are in that sharper interface of healthcare can feel the looming pressure mount - but considering a huge percentage of medical staff (Drs/nurses etc) aren't vaccinated despite administering them to others day in day out... and I wonder what front-line resistance they will stumble into when teh time comes from those who really know what's going on and have reason to doubt what they are being confronted with as a choice...

I'm not trying to kick this one down the road into wishful thinking la-la-land - but where ever possible I think we need to keep a perspective, especially on our own anxiety. The day may come yes, but - please god - not today or even tomorrow. They've such a path of BS to follow before they get to you and me and before then we've a life of free will to follow.

So wherever possible I suggest we determinedly deny them the right, but quietly - strategically - in our heads...

and we play out the fox in the long grass, give them nothing to feed on, until such a time as they have earned the unavoidable power to corner us... until then we are strategic and play along by...

dodging, playing games, making up stories (Sorry boss - was it today everyone was having the test? - oh did I miss it? My cat kept me up all night chasing the canary and I over slept... sorry, wont happen again boss.. next time hey? Count me in for sure Boss! etc)

Become guerrilla tacticians as fitting players in the absurd, clumsy game of it all..

and always remember they are far, far from being all powerful... unless we first believe they are. Let's not give them anymore power over our minds than they have already taken... if they want it they'll have to prove it first.... for we are many, they are few... so let them waste the next 18months on the millions of meek and the abject willing... and hopefully buy ourselves some more time along the way... for nature's cavalry to intervene!

Not yet. Not yet - no today. Not tomorrow.

And isn't that all we ever have anyway? Just FWIW.

Strength to everyone out there facing these tough negotiations and choices (but great learning hey?)

 

[Joan]

My thought is also to play the long game, and see how this develops. Seems to me that when pressured regarding if this test is mandatory, those pressuring employees to get the test are backing down when confronted. Could be they may also be under some directive pressure, just following government guidelines.

There is talk of a second wave here in Canada, I suspect this may be when the real pressure starts, at the beginning of the normal flu season. Also it has been increasing recommendations to wear a mask, with Trudeau and his virtue signalling par excellence on display. Wearing a mask in government buildings, but will take it off to speak to the house. What a dork.

I think that this maybe just another ploy to increase the hysteria and anxiety level in the public, given how people are so divided on this issue and more are seeing through the lies and deception.

Half of Canadians fooled by Covid-19 conspiracy theories: study - France 24

Half of Canadians fooled by Covid-19 conspiracy theories: study

www.france24.com

 

[Michael B-C]

I think that this maybe just another ploy to increase the hysteria and anxiety level in the public, given how people are so divided on this issue and more are seeing through the lies and deception.

Half of Canadians fooled by Covid-19 conspiracy theories: study - France 24

Half of Canadians fooled by Covid-19 conspiracy theories: study

www.france24.com

All they have left as leverage (for the present at least), is that accumulated collective hysteria and fear mongering - for the science and the anticipated death toll is fast abandoning their grip. I see more signs of tension within political systems where the beginnings of kick back is going on as more and more the reality of the true Armageddon - i.e. economic and social - kicks in. That's why late in the day we're suddenly seeing all these face masks everywhere on faces of power (look at me! You should be still be really scared you know!) because they sense they are in danger of losing control of the narrative. That's why we keep hearing dark winter/second wave, because without it their up a gum tree without a paddle. So I agree Joan - the autumn is most likely going to be the big test of which direction this whole charade plays out. Meanwhile lets try and enjoy the summer (whatever that is - its still more often cold than warm where I am and there' some storm blowing through the trees!) and prepare ourselves mentally for whatever might come.

 

[bianca etezete]

I researched just that. Since I live in a city with many big and huge labs, I looked for those who do testings, to find out how they test. I found something. Under this link [ http://labor-augsburg-mvz.de/aktuelles/coro-Conavirus ] if you scoll down to the post of 3rd of april you can read (in german) about the "report layout" being changed. Previously one test had two results, one for the testing for SARS-CoV-2 specifically (ORF1), and one for the coronavirus in (almost) general (E-Gen). And NOW they are giving out ONE positive test result when only ONE of the two is positive! Wow. Wonder what that does to the figures... Of course this is a recommendation of the WHO.

Just for those who still wanted to check this out; You can't anymore! One day after I posted this here, it was gone - without further notice! Just taken from the site. Very telling.