- I want to ask again what or who were the beings seen by DM in her hypnotic regression the other night? Her essence. Were these in any way physical beings on the earth we occupy in space/time from where we are at this moment? No. This happened in a so-called alternate reality? Is still. So, in some alternate reality, DM is a preying mantis being eating little children? And so are you. And all others. This is an essence of what? Her being. Are these aspects of our being coming to earth as part of the realm border crossing? Yes. Are all of us going to have to face these aspects of ourselves as other beings? Yes. Are there other parts of us in all realms doing other things at this moment? Yes. And how is this going to be affected by the realm border crossing? Will merge.
- Do we need to do extensive hypnosis to bring these aspects of ourselves up and deal with these things a little at a time? Will happen involuntarily. Will be like a thermonuclear blast. Message follows : See pattern. Orion, Pleiades, Arcturas, Cassiopaea; check distances from earth; progress locator for wave combined with earth references of space time. For you to figure out. Cross reference channelled messages, printing dates and location. We are where we are. What do you mean you are where you are? Cross reference Time and distance. What book do we need to cross reference? Any star chart and Marciniak, Arcturas Channel, Orion literature and Us. We speak from "crest" of wave, now, where are we? Is this a riddle? From, not of. You speak from the crest of the wave? Are you riding the wave? Yes.
- You mean that YOU are the Arcturians, the Pleiadians, and now you are the "Cassiopaeans" because you "are where you are"! And you are riding the wave. Is this wave a straight line connecting all these constellations? Circuitous or cyclical route. So, is it like a spiral? Yes. So we really need to set up a map so we can draw it? Yes. When we speak from Orion we are "Orions". When from Pleiades, we are "Pleiadian", and so on. So, all of these channelled books you have mentioned are coming from the same basic source, through different channels, that they are able to connect with because of their different positions in space time and preparation level of the channels, is that correct? Close. We have given you a Wave crest locator. We are from where we are and speak. Get it? You are the wave crest? We are Marciniak's Pleiadians. We are where we are. So, you are not really Cassiopaeans from the Constellation Cassiopia? We are Transient Passengers.
- So, when the wave reaches earth and you are transmitting to somebody else out there you will represent yourselves as the "Terrans?" When wave reaches earth, we merge with you. When you were at Orion, did you merge with the Orions? Not on same frequency for realm border crossing. What effect did the wave have on the Orion sector? None. Already at 4th density level. Where did the wave originate? Did not. Has it always been cycling through the universe? Close.
- You are riding on the crest of this wave in 6th density, is this true? Yes. We are you in 6th density. Are you alternate selves extending into higher densities? At your current reference point in space time, we are you in the future. We are your destiny? And vice versa. You are not, by any chance, one of those weird ant or preying mantis beings are you? Yes and no. You are just another part of ourselves? You, us, the Lizards, the ants, the grays, the trees... We are your whole self as you/we are in 6th density. So, what we are working to become is You? You are us? Yes.
- So, when we move to 4th density and become whole with ourselves, we will know you also for a short time? Not whole yet when at 4th density. But in order to move to 4th density... Closer. We, us, in this room, are closer than others are? No. Closer when at 4th density.
- Wave is transport mode. A transport mode for many beings. Are you coming to invade us? No, merge. Are others coming with the intention of invading us? Yes. And, when you merge with us, are you going to empower us to resist and defend ourselves? Wave is "crowded". So, everybody out in the whole universe who want a piece of the earth action are on this wave? At realm border crossing.
Area 51
- Has the base at area 51 been moved to Kirtland as this stuff says? No. Is there a base at area 51? Yes. Kirtland has a new addition. Is the base at area 51 where our military and aliens are working in conjunction? They have recovered craft of grays, but human and alien personnel are not working together there. Are the craft actually captured? Recovered from crash. Have any alien beings given the government craft? No. Would you give mice tv sets?
- How do these insect beings, these other manifestations of ourselves, how do they view our treatment of insects on this planet ?Unconcerned. Is that because the insects on our planet are not sentient beings? Different. How do the insect beings handle insects on their planet? They are the insects on their planet. Do they have pests on their planet like we do? No. Microbic. Well, do they exterminate them like we do? No. Can we understand our pests as something that has been inflicted on us by the Lizzies. I always did wonder why God created mosquitos? No. When we go into 4th density are we going to be free of mosquitoes, roaches, slimy worms, slugs and so on? No. In conjunction with DNA changes, is there any similarity between the human race and the idea of transformation relating to populations such as grasshoppers into locusts? Yes. When grasshoppers turn into locusts, they swarm when their population gets too large. All is part of natural cyclical process. Was the DNA change that we are experiencing programmed into us so that after so many generations these changes would just sort of kick in? Close. So, we all selected certain bodies before we incarnated that would be prime for this programming? Are you ready to be hermaphrodites? Is that what we are going to be? Wait and see.
Barbara Marciniak and the Pleiadians
- Since you are riding this wave, in order to communicate, since the wave is what you are using to focus this contact with, and you are, whoever you may be at whatever point the wave is, you gave Barbara Marciniak information under the name "Pleiadians". You are telling us this. Have you told the other people, such as Barbara Marciniak, that you are contacting other people? No. So, Barbara may not know that the contacts are the same only under a different name? No. Is it because she didn't ask? Progressive information. Also, system is like mosaic. Does this mean that different people get different pieces of the mosaic? Yes. But, you have told us that you have contacted others under other names? Yes. Have you told the others? No. Why have you not contacted the others and told them this? Just answered. Progressive. Are you still contacting Barbara? Not at this point. She is in pause mode. Does she know this? Yes. Write to her and tell her to call "Cassiopaea". Next stop is Leo.
- In some time in the future, the next sending point is Leo. Does that mean that at some point we will not be able to contact you? We just told you who to call. Well, what I am having trouble understanding is why we have to call to a certain space point. We are now in touch, does this channel not stay open? Reference point. So it doesn't matter as long as we meet regularly to talk with you? Yes. Barbara is also able to continue talking to you even though you are no longer the Pleiadians? She may talk to someone else.
Ancient of Earth's civilizations
- Were Atlantis and Lemuria the most ancient of Earth's civilizations? No. What advanced civilizations were before Atlantis and Lemuria? Many. Was there an ancient advanced civilization located in the area we now call Antarctica? Yes. What was the name of this civilization? Gor. What kind of individuals lived in Gor? 18 feet tall. Were they humanoid and did they look like us? Close. Were they male and female like us? Yes. And did they have space travel capabilities? No interest. Are there any remains of their civilization left? Yes. Did they only inhabit Antarctica? No. Did they inhabit the whole world? Close. Are there any remains in Florida? No. Where might the remains be found? South America. Where in South America? Amazon. Ancient legend of Amazons. Do our scientists know any of this? Yes. Are there remains of Atlantis and Lemuria? Yes. Do our scientists know of any of those? Yes. Are they withholding information on purpose? Yes. Have they any intention of telling about it? No. Do they have relics of these stored? Yes.
Young people and music
- In our cultural experience, we have a lot of very strange things that our young people participate in. Among these activities is the use of extremely loud stereo systems that quite literally vibrate the cells in their bodies until they turn to jelly. Could you tell me, please, the long term physiological effects of this kind of exposure of the human body to these loud booming noises? Strange thought patterns. What effects are these violently loud stereos having on people? Varies. Are these effects negative? Open. Are these effects less than conducive to optimum health? Maybe. What can these very loud booming sounds do to the body? Make the body go "boom boom".
Orgasm
- What happens psychically at the moment of orgasm? For whom? For anybody. In just a general way. Does anything happen to a person psychically when they have sexual climax. Open. Is it different for each individual? Close. Is it different for males from females? Usually. The reason I ask is because a man named Wayne Cook did some work with dowsing and he found out that the human body, after sexual climax, dowses the same pattern as a dead body. Why is this? Draining of energy. Yes. Okay, where does the energy drain to? To the ether. Does the energy go to one or the other partner? Maybe. Is it possible, during this activity, for Lizzies or other beings to be hanging around and be drawing this energy? Yes. Is that, in a general sense, what often happens? Yes. Is this one of the reasons that sex has been promoted and promulgated in our society to such an extent... Yes, yes, yes.
STO and STS
- You talk about both STO and STS. Yet you tell us that we need to learn to be STO. Why is there a difference between what we have to do and what you are doing? STO is balance because you serve self through others. You have said a couple of times that you are STS by being STO. Is this not true? Yes. Already answered. Kind of like: what goes around, comes around? Yes. Is STO a means to an end for STS? No. STO is balance. STS is imbalance. How can you be STS through STO if STS is imbalance? STO flows outward and touches all including point of origin, STS flows inward and touches only origin point.
- Well, they refer in the material that I am reading through, that they are STS through STO. They serve self BY serving others. Is that what we're supposed to do, serve ourselves by serving others? Yeah! Because what goes around, comes around. If you serve others then you get things back. Because when you serve yourself, all there is is an infinite number of individuals serving self. There is no energy exchange, no synergy within the group; there is no exchange. Everything moves inward. There is no sharing, no growth, there is no nothing. No interconnecting. Right! There is no learning. In terms of major STS, this may or may not be related, could you tell us the nature of a Black Hole? Grand Scale STS. Is it like a being that has achieved such a level of STS that it has literally imploded in on itself in some way? Close analogy. Possibly an entire civilization of STS? No. Well, maybe a civilization can't do it because that implies working together. It must need to be an individual being. Black Holes are a natural force reflection of Free Will consciousness pattern of STS. Notice that Black Holes are located at center of spiral energy forces, all else radiates outward.
- Now, you say "spiral" energy forces, and you also have said that this wave is a spiral. Is the central point of this wave that is spiraling, a black hole? No. Is it a radiating wave? All in creation is just that: a radiating wave. Where does the energy go that gets sucked into a black hole? Inward to total nonexistence. Well, if a black hole continues to suck stuff in, is it possible that it would eventually suck in the entire creation? No. Why is that? Universe is all encompassing. Black holes are final destination of all STS energy. So, does this mean that we, or anyone else who is classified as STS, remains on said path, that we will eventually end up in a Black Hole? Close. And what happens to energy that is "total non-existence"? Total non-existence balances total existence. Guess what is total existence? Well, is it kind of like a balancing force? "God".
- Are we talking about the creator god as in the Pleiadians? Not Pleiadians. Prime Creator. What is the difference between the Prime Creator and "God?" None. As long as you exist, you are of the Prime Creator. Now, this stuff that goes into Black Holes, that goes into non-existence, is that, then, not part of the Prime Creator? Correct. How can Prime Creator lose any part of him or itself? Prime Creator does not "lose" anything. Well, then, how would you describe this energy that was in existence and then is no longer in existence because it has become or gone into a Black Hole? Reflection is regenerated at level 1. So, this energy goes into a Black Hole and... does it come out on the other side? No. Does it become like a primal atom? No. Does it go back into the cycle? No. Reflection regenerates as primal atoms.
- When we put out energy as positive or negative energy, and there are beings on other levels that feed on this energy, is this true? Yes. Okay and you said that the Lizzies feed on the negative energy? Yes. Who feeds on the positive energy? You do. How do we feed on the positive energy? Progression toward union with the one, I.E. level 7. In other words, you fuel your own generator instead of fueling someone else's. You are at level 6, what do you feed on? You have the wrong concept. We give to others and receive from others of the STO. We feed each other. So, by feeding each other you move forward and grow but those of the STS path do not feed each other so must feed off of others. Now, you are talking to us now. This is considered STO? Yes. We are providing energy for the channel also, Does that provide you with energy? No. What do you want from us? We don't want when pure STO. We came because YOU wanted. But that is STS until you share with others. So, it is necessary that we share this information? Up to you, it is a free will choice. Is there some risk to ourselves by sharing this information? At some level but there is "risk" to all things.
Oak Island Regenerator
- What is buried on Oak Island? Regenerator. What is a regenerator? Remolecularizer. Who put it there? Lizard beings. 10,000 years ago, approximately. Do they use it from time to time? No. Does it still work? It could. What is the purpose of a remolecularizer? Regenerate matter. Such as physical bodies? Yes. Any matter.
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Séance du 10 décembre 1994