gambeir said:
obyvatel said:
Gambeir,
Please use the search function and you will find numerous references to John Taylor Gatto in this forum.
The original post on this thread was concerned with altruism and its relationship to evolution. I am not seeing the point of a chest-thumping promotion of Gatto (world's best teacher?) and a dissection of his ancestry in this thread. Am I missing something?
OK, well this is then exceptional that you even know who he is. I was offended and I was offended by coming at me with this business of ancestry with an implied suggestion that the guy is a liar. If that is the case than it would be appreciated if instead of telling me to search 56 threads for that information that someone just say that he had been discussed over this issue of ancestry. OK? Then tell me to run a search.
Who's going to go checking the search box every time you mention someone's name? If someone doesn't like him than say so and say why. I don't think it's right to come at me with some ancestry business when my only intent was say that he's tracked down evidence which shows that a primary system in the structure of society is organized to classify peoples kids based on genetics and ranging from loser to servant.
The connection is that love of your fellow beings, and of life in general isn't part of the plan, and it's institutionalized. I would think that understanding this is a designed function of the public education system ties in with the discussion as a matter of species survival.
Gambeir, the point here is to think more of CeLegacy and what the OP is wanting to know and evaluate our possible contribution with the OP in mind. In a connected universe, everything is related in some way to everything else and some threads do undergo an organic branching, but we have to give some thought to whether CeLegacy is satisfied with the discussion to this point and if we are simply indulging our own interests. The latter would be more externally considerate on a thread devoted to the topic that you are free to start and link to here.
It was hard for me to stay away from Gatto on this thread because I read his "The Underground History of American Education" and found it remorsefully depressing, but rather than go with the national conspiracy angle, I opted to see the societal leaders as simply advocates of the same sedated, non-thinking ways of life that the victims of their policy implementations became subject to. IOW, just as dumbed-down as the 'peasants,' just occupying higher positions in society.
Now, having said the above, should you choose to carry other concerns elsewhere, I'm sure those of us with an interest in your subject will follow and join you. Trust the process and let's get back to thinking of the OP, Ok?
