Dead birds keep raining down.

[Charles]

Dead birds rain down on towns half a world apart.

Three weeks ago thousands of crows, pigeons, wattles and honeyeaters fell out of the sky in Esperance, Western Australia.
Then last week dozens of grackles, sparrows and pigeons dropped dead on two streets in Austin, Texas.
As birds continue to die in Esperance and the town's dawn chorus remains eerily silent, vets in both countries have been unable to establish a cause of death - despite carrying out a large number of autopsies on the birds.

Birds are highly sensitive to Teflon fumes, but also to methane for instance. So, I always "concluded" that these massive bird deaths should be attributed to something like that.
http://www.peteducation.com/article.cfm?cls=15&cat=18&articleid=2874

Birds are susceptible to a respiratory condition called "teflon toxicity" or "PTFE poisoning/toxicosis." Deaths can result from this condition, which is due to the noxious fumes emitted from overheated cookware coated with polytetrafluoroethylene (PTFE). This chemical is found on most non-stick cookware and appliances, some stain repellant products, and other household items.
What are the signs of PTFE toxicosis?
The signs of PTFE toxicosis are non-specific, and could be seen in a variety of respiratory and other diseases. Birds are usually found dead in the cage or gasping for air and eventually dying. Mild exposures may result in difficulty breathing, wheezing, incoordination, weakness, depression, anxious behavior, or seizures.
The diagnosis of PTFE poisoning is usually made through physical examination, a history of using an item with a non-stick surface that was possibly overheated, and, if the bird has died, a post-mortem examination. The toxic particles released by overheated PTFE mainly affect the lungs. On post-mortem examination, the lungs are often dark red in color, with hemorrhages and congestion. Hemorrhages and congestion may also appear in the trachea and bronchi. These changes are not specific to PTFE toxicosis, but occur with many types of lung irritants, so there is no way PTFE toxicosis can be positively identified. Other toxic irritants include aerosol sprays, tobacco smoke, carbon monoxide, natural gas, ammonia, and burned foods and cooking oils. The signs associated with exposure to these toxins vary from mild chronic pneumonia to acute death.

And thus, this type of toxicosis due to toxic fumes/gasses (teflon or methane) should at least have left its traces in the autopsies. And it does not. So my "conclusion" was premature.
It is still possible of course that it is kept secret. But such is becoming less likely considering the broad range of these bird kills, both in number and duration.

The overheating of PTFE has been found to cause lung problems, not only in birds, but also in rats and humans. In people, the disease has flu-like symptoms and is known as "polymer fume fever." It is rarely fatal, although it can cause serious illness, especially in people with underlying respiratory disease.
Why are birds more sensitive to PTFE toxicosis?
The respiratory tract of birds is extremely sensitive to toxins in the air because of its unique anatomy. It is extremely efficient in exchanging gasses in order to provide very high levels of oxygen to the muscles for flight. While delivering oxygen so efficiently, it can also deliver toxic gasses. In addition, the small size and high metabolic rate of birds increases their susceptibility to airborne toxins. Birds, often canaries, have historically been utilized as sentinels for toxic gasses in coal mines because of this increased sensitivity.

So what could be the real cause ???

 

[Pierre]

Then last week dozens of grackles, sparrows and pigeons dropped dead on two streets in Austin, Texas.
As birds continue to die in Esperance and the town's dawn chorus remains eerily silent, vets in both countries have been unable to establish a cause of death - despite carrying out a large number of autopsies on the birds.
Birds are highly sensitive to Teflon fumes, but also to methane for instance. So, I always "concluded" that these massive bird deaths should be attributed to something like that.

Maybe that there are some links with the methane release phenomenon mentioned in this thread ? : http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=4734.msg31207#msg31207

 

[Charles]

Maybe that there are some links with the methane release phenomenon mentioned in this thread ? : http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=4734.msg31207#msg31207

Yes, and that is the way how I used to "archive" this phenomenon. It is an interesting thread. But from what I cited I now learned something that makes this very unlikely.

I could have placed it in bold in the citation of my previous post, so that it would have shown up better.

I will place it in red this time :P

On post-mortem examination, the lungs are often dark red in color, with hemorrhages and congestion. Hemorrhages and congestion may also appear in the trachea and bronchi. These changes are not specific to PTFE toxicosis, but occur with many types of lung irritants, so there is no way PTFE toxicosis can be positively identified. Other toxic irritants include aerosol sprays, tobacco smoke, carbon monoxide, natural gas, ammonia, and burned foods and cooking oils. The signs associated with exposure to these toxins vary from mild chronic pneumonia to acute death.

Natural gas is methane, mostly.
So it should have shown up in the autopsies.

Also, food poisoning seems unlikely as there were several different species killed off in one hit so to say, and the species involved have quite different feeding behaviours.

That makes the phenomenon rather eerie to me.

 

[sHiZo963]

Could be that the mysterious ingredients in "chem-trails" are finally taking their toll on nature. The US and Australia are heavily "chem-trailed" locations, are they not? This is just a wild guess, though, and it doesn't explain the timing whatsoever.

Another wild guess would be our 4th Density STS "friends" visiting the affected places, somehow causing 'sudden-death' mechanisms in the birds. The "As Above, So Below" principle applies to all Earthly phenomena, so the bird deaths could be some kind of symbol or reflection of what's going on "upstairs." So the question becomes, what do BIRDS symbolize?

The synchronicity of these phenomena in so many different places seems to suggest a "global," not localized, cause. Connecting this with the strange global changes in weather may perhaps shed a light.

I remember reading somewhere that frogs are the first to be affected by sudden environmental changes and/or pollution, so when a lot of these are found dead it's usually a sign of bad things to come for the entire ecosystem. Perhaps these dead birds are another "signal," so to speak, in terms of how far along we are in the current "global cycle" of Earth changes.

Just some thoughts...

 

[Alana]

Your post sHiZo963 reminded me of a post i wrote last year in february in casschat. It went like this:

It all started as I was looking today at the Denver airport
pictures. Especially this one:

I went back to read the Denver airport material
http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/denver.htm and found this:

[A: Then have C__ go to that airport, observe carefully, then report
back her findings. Very important, because the murals there are
directly connected to what you are studying carefully right now.
Superclues to be found there, which can point to monstrous future
plans of 4th density STS and much, much more.]

And my mind started racing: sword piercing the dove in picture,
future plans of 4th density sts, currently on earth Bird flu,
killing birds all over the place… Plus yesterday I started reading
Bringers of the Dawn, and was reminded of the bird entities
mentioned by the Pleiadians in Chapter 3:

[Creator gods take many forms, and they are not all Lizzies. There
are creator gods who are insectlike. We Pleiadians are associated
with the creator gods that are birdlike and reptilian. There were
those who came from space and worked with the energy of the birds in
many different cultures. If you look at the drawings of ancient
cultures in Egypt, South America, and North America, you will see
signs of the birds and reptiles. At one time, the birds and the
reptiles worked together, and at other times they fought.]

And from that I remembered something the C's said:

990710
A: While you have physicality, some part of you will maintain the
connection to its roots.
Q: (L) Are you saying that all these people who say that human
beings have reptilian genetics, are telling the truth? Do we have
reptilian genetics?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Do we also have bird genetics?
A: Yes.

And then I remembered when Laura was trying to figure out how birds
were related to speech and writing:

970816
Q: We have the phoenix, cranes, herons, doves, ravens, and all are
related somehow
to speech or writing. Why are all these birds related this way?
A: Pass the test.
Q: What do you mean 'pass the test?'
A: Discover.
Q: Well, writing is related to the words for cutting and inscribing
and even shearing and sharks. You called the Etruscans 'Penitant
Avian Lords,' who were also 'Templar Carriers.' Is this related to
these bird images? Then related to speech, writing and shearing?
A: Pass the test.
Q: So, if you are writing, and you pass the test, then you can be a
phoenix, dove or whatever?
A: Discover.

Birds, birds… perhaps birds are related to speech or writing as
those entities who are communicators of information compared to the
reptiles who are withholders of information? birds fly high so they
can see everything below (see reality) whereas reptiles are on the
ground seeing only as far (wishful thinking)...

If we take into account what we read everyday, the lies we are told and how the world is resembling so closely what is written in the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, how police states are being developed in the western world governments as in the V movie, if you read the Hasbara manual, and all these after having read Political ponerology, you get to realize that the withholding and twisting of truth, the manipulation and control of our perceptions through propaganda techniques and all the above, is the killing of truth, the killing of knowledge, the killing of the messenger of truth, the killing of birds....

At least that's how i see it currently.

 

[Charles]

This Denver thing has always scared me Irini.

From "Irini" to "Iron" is just a small jump. One peculiar thing about birds is also that they have magnetite in their brains, which is a particular form of Iron oxide.
A Birdy (great movie!) has this in common with the HUMAN being and … the pig.

I was wondering whether these birds could have been hit with microwave radiation of such power that it would fry their brains, or that the birds themselves passed through areas were the local field was of sufficient intensity. Maybe it was not the intensity that did them in, but the quality, in that they were hit with a specific frequency, which could be different as the frequencies to which humans would be sensitive.

Fact is that magnetite absorbs microwave radiation very well.

Spinels like magnetite absorb microwave radiation.

In a patent published in 1977 http://www.freepatentsonline.com/4003840.html I read:
It is generally known to those skilled in the art that ferrites absorb microwave such as those of 500 MHz to 12 GHz to change the microwave energy to a thermal energy. The ferrite is a sintered body having the spinel structure and it is a compound having the following general formula:

MFe.sub.2 O.sub.4

(wherein M is a divalent metal such as Mn, Ni, Cu, Zn, Mg, Co, etc.).
Also Magnetite is such ferrite compound wherein M is Fe (iron) again.

In thread What To Do About Mobile Phone Towers.
,you can find more on how wood impregnated with ferrites such as magnetite ABSORBS microwave radiation.


Magnetite anyone?

Greetings folks,
I would like to know whether anyone has heard anything about the benefits as magnetite/ magnetitum? I have heard that the ancient chinese herbalists used it 4 a myriad of symptoms.
This post comes in light of the ending of x-files (season 9) where the cigarette smoking man proclaimed that magnetite was abhorred by the 'aliens'. As usual, truth mixed with fiction.
I would like to know if any of the practitioners of the healing arts (chi kung, reiki etc) recognize magnetite and it's benefits.

The only western company proclaiming the benefits of magnetite is Remcure enterprises (affiliated with the higher balance institute). The website is
http://www.magneurol.com
here's another website where one can obtain the magnetite in powdered form
http://www.ancientway.com/catalog/advan … 24&y=9.

More X-files:
Magnetite – The X - files

After re-reading KAH’s article on magnetite, I recalled that much of series 9 of The X Files included a great deal about magnetite in relation to an alien/human hybrid race - who came to be nicknamed "super-soldiers" by Agents Mulder and Scully. Does anyone remember this? From memory, the super-soldiers that were created by aliens had a high amount of magnetite in their blood and so, when exposed to geographic areas with deposits of magnetite (or some sort of metal that attracts magnetite?), actually causes the magnetite to bleed through the skin and propel the person towards the magnetite deposit (in one episode, a super-soldier gets too close to a rock face loaded with magnetite and is picked up off his feet and slammed through the rock face (or some other metal - I cannot be sure).

The magnetite bleeding through the skin sounds rather off-track (and bizarre!), probably the writer's clever way of giving these super-soldiers a weakness. Despite this, the connection between aliens and magnetite definitely made me take notice. Not to mention the "agreement" between the alien race and the Majestic-12-like group of which The Smoking Man/Cancer Man was a member. And how could I forget the final episode revealing an "invasion" in December, 2012?

Funny that the smoking/cancer man was mentioned twice as it triggers another association.
People who smoke have a fraction of their haemoglobin bound to carbon MONoxide in a quasi irreversible way. To compensate for the loss of these oxygen carriers, they have to make more haemoglobin and thus accumulate more iron in their blood. Is it possible that over time such results in more magnetite accumulation in their brain?

From two C’s sessions that have been cited in this thread :
Secret in the line drawn between Novosibirtsk and Urkutsk?

Q: (L) Okay, let's see: Iron - derived from early Celt 'iserno,' via Illyrian 'eisarno' from the IndoEuropean base 'eis,' which means to 'move vigorously; strong, holy.' It is a white, malleable, ductile, metallic chemical element that can be readily magnetized, rusts rapidly in moist or salty air, and is vital to plant and animal life; it is the most common and important of all metals, and its alloys, as steel, are extensively used. Symbol: Fe; atomic weight:55.847; atomic number: 26; specific gravity: 7.86; melting point: 1535 degrees Centigrade; boiling point 3,000 degrees C. The electron shells are thus: 2,14,8,2. Iron is an element of blood, hemoglobin, and is easily magnetized... there is some new work about iron and magnetite in the brains of people who are psychic or have 'abduction' experiences... is it the magnetism?
A: Yes....
Q: (L) Is it something that holds one more firmly in 3rd density, and the elimination of it enables one to switch densities... or...
A: Tis magnetite that acts as a conduit, and perhaps, just perhaps, allows for transference back and forth at will?!?

And:

Q: There is a remark in this Graham Hancock book about the pyramids which says here regarding the issue about iron: 'It is unsettling to discover in the Pyramid Texts, supposedly the work of Neolithic farmers who had hardly begun to master copper, that there were abundant references to iron. The name of it was B'ja, or the 'Divine Metal.' We always encounter it in distinctive context to astronomy. For example, B'ja is frequently mentioned in the text in connection to the 'Four Sons of Horus,' presumably related in some way to strange beings known as the Shemsu Hor, or the 'Followers of Horus,' or the 'Transfigured Ones.' At any rate, these very mysterious 'Sons of Horus' seem to have been made of iron or to have had iron fingers. [...] It is clear that iron was somehow seen by the composers of the Pyramid Texts as being imperative in the rituals aimed at ensuring new life cosmic and stellar. The verses of the Texts connect the metal and its uses to the ancient prototype of all such rituals by means of which Osiris himself, Egypt's 'Once and Future King,' died and was restored to immortal life as Lord of the Sky Region of Orion. 'The doors of iron which are in the starry sky are thrown open for me and I go through them.' It appears to be nothing less than an iron stargate intended to admit Osiris and all the dynasty of dead kings after him into the celestial realms of the belt of Orion. But, if the Pyramid Texts are describing a stargate, they are also describing a timegate for they express no doubt that by passing through the iron portals of the sky, the soul of the deceased will attain a life of millions of years.' So, they are describing the Pyramid as a stargate, a timegate, a portal. However, they are doing so in figurative terms, that the person could mentally travel, or use this in some way. Could you comment on this bit about the iron stargate?
A: Iron is highly magnetic.
Q: Yes, we know that...
A: Opens doorways or portals.

And then finally, from Magnetite by K.A.H.
, itself:

So, we have here what seems to be an indication that we do have this magnetite in common with the birds, and that it is located in our temporal lobe - the "temple" of the human being. It is also found outside of our bodies, deposited at certain locations around the world, some of which may or may not function as "windows" or "portals" to transfer back and forth between 3rd and 4th densities. It is my thought that 3D STS oriented gangs may use, or wish to use, these locations, or "windows" (such as exists at Renne-le-Chateau, Monument Valley, etc.), to conduct their business with the 4D STS crew, as well as use them as escape hatches to 4D in the event of a cataclysm. Something else that occurred to me is that perhaps also, some of these "windows" are located at certain intersections of the earth grid.
[...]I think the Cs are letting us in on this little secret so that we, too, may have an "escape hatch", if and when the time comes. The big difference, however, is that "STO tends to do the process within the natural flow of things. STS seeks to alter creation processes to fit their ends." It seems that the STS groups are also aware of this inner route, and work actively to access it in artificial or ritualistic ways. Fusion of magnetic centers can take place on either "path." Given that STS always takes the easiest way out, it is easy to understand that they would do it by turning inward and achieving a subjective magnetic center. Doing the difficult and laborious work required to fuse the magnetic centers in the STO network, is joyful and excitingly challenging. Here, flocks of birds come to mind again
[...]LIGHT BURSTS FORTH IN THE MAGNETITE THAT COLLECTS IN THE TEMPORAL LOBES as a result of repeated "heating" of the crucible by thinking with a hammer. One has to chisel away the barriers to truth, one hammer blow at a time. And it is a long, arduous, and difficult work.
[...]So, by "thinking with a hammer" (which are those little "shocks" we continually expose ourselves to in the Quantum Future School, challenging ourselves to discern between subjective knowledge/states and Objective Knowledge/states, putting "sacred cows" out to pasture, we "heat the crucible". The crucible is the brain, and the magnetite is heated by the electricity that is generated by our neurons when we are challenged by a thought or series of thoughts that are the Truth/Objective Knowledge as opposed to subjective assumptions. And then, when we UTILIZE that Knowledge, when we act on objective knowledge in a subjective world, it seems that we literally generate light. Indeed then, looking at it this way, Knowledge IS Light! Knowledge creates Light - if it is utilized [See May 31, 1997 session: http://www.cassiopaea.org/sessions/970531.html ]. So, if we are persistent and continually heat this crucible - our brains - with Objective Knowledge/Truth until we have completely fused our magnetic centers - and do this TOGETHER as a unit, a group, one entity - all of these fused magnetic centers in our brains - all aligned in one direction - toward objective truth - a group can then act as a 4th density being IN the 3rd density reality - a "Macro Magnetic Center", if you will - which will then provide the "window", the "escape hatch" to fourth density. A means by which we can "catch the Wave" - and/or "attract" it, as the case may be.

 

[Pierre]

Q: We have the phoenix, cranes, herons, doves, ravens, and all are
related somehow
to speech or writing. Why are all these birds related this way?
A: Pass the test.
Q: What do you mean 'pass the test?'
A: Discover.
Q: Well, writing is related to the words for cutting and inscribing
and even shearing and sharks. You called the Etruscans 'Penitant
Avian Lords,' who were also 'Templar Carriers.' Is this related to
these bird images? Then related to speech, writing and shearing?
A: Pass the test.
Q: So, if you are writing, and you pass the test, then you can be a
phoenix, dove or whatever?
A: Discover.

Birds, birds… perhaps birds are related to speech or writing as
those entities who are communicators of information compared to the
reptiles who are withholders of information? birds fly high so they
can see everything below (see reality) whereas reptiles are on the
ground seeing only as far (wishful thinking)...

Birds being related to langage can reminds us of the green language, the alchemist's "language of the birds"

Renaissance magic, and alchemy, the language of the birds was considered a secret and perfect language and the key to perfect knowledge, sometimes also called the langue verte, or green language (Jean Julien Fulcanelli, Heinrich Cornelius Agrippa de occulta philosophia

A perfect language. Without anymore confusion of tongues ? Is it this kind of universal communication that G. mentions when describing man 5, 6 and 7 ? Is it a kind of colinear objectivity : when individual perfectly understand each other, behind egos, beliefs, wishes ? Are there links with the way J. Christ was expressing himself : parables, analogies, homophonies ?

BTW, in French bird is "oiSeau", that the only 6 letters French word including 5 wovels. Reciprocally the only 6 letters singular French word including 5 consonants is "chrIst".

 

[highmystica]

Random thought regarding the language of birds - there is a passage in rumi's writings, I'm sorry I don't have it handy to quote but he mentions how a some people learned a few bird calls and used them to gain fame ... magicians anyone?

Edit:

Funny how you can just crack open a book to the right spot - sorry I only have one of my translations at home so I can't compare it to the other one I have ...

From the poem regarding Imra'u 'l-Qays and the King of Tabuk ...

Imra'u 'l-Qays, King of the Arabs,
was very handsome, and a poet, full of love songs.

Women loved him desperately.
Everyone loved him, but there came one night
an experience that changed him completely.
He left his kingdom and family.
He put on dervish robes and wandered
from one weather, one landscape, to another.

Love dissolved his king-self
and led him to Tabuk, where he worked for a time
making bricks. Someone told the King of Tabuk
about Imra'u 'l-Qays, and that king went to visit him
at night.

"King of the Arabs, handsome Joseph of this age,
ruler of two empires, one composed of territories,
and the other of the beauty of women,
if you would consent to stay with me,
I would be honored. You abandon kingdoms,
because you want more than kingdoms."

The King of Tabuk went on like this,
praising Imra'u 'l-Qays, and talking theology
and philosophy. Imra'u 'l-Qays kept silent.
Then suddenly he leaned and whispered something
in this second king's ear, and that second, that
second king became a wanderer too.

They walked out of town hand in hand.
No royal belts, no thrones.

This is what love does and continues to do.

It tastes like honey to adults and milk to children.
Love is the last thirty pound bale.
When you load it on, the boat tips over.

So they wandered around China like birds
pecking at bits of grain. They rarely spoke
because of the dangerous seriousness
of the secret they kney.

That love-secret spoken pleasantly, or in irritation,
severs a hundred thousand heads in one swing.
A love-lion grazes in the soul's pasture,
while the scimitar of this secret approaches.
It's a killing better than any living.

All that world-power wants, really,
is this weakness.

So these kings talked in low tones,
and carefully. Only God knows what they said.

They used unsayable words. Bird language.
But some people have imitated them, learned
a few birdcalls, and gotten prestigious.

The thing I mentioned above about magicians was a reference to the missuse of a knowledge for personal gain regarding the green language ...

 

[Ruth]

This Denver thing has always scared me Irini.

From "Irini" to "Iron" is just a small jump. One peculiar thing about birds is also that they have magnetite in their brains, which is a particular form of Iron oxide.

But the central character in the picture is wearing a gas mask, which somehow has an effect on light as seen by the rainbow (visible spectrum) above. The bird (dove) is dropping from the sky at the tip of this entities sword (suggesting that it might be just the begining?). There are lots of people 'going to heaven' (maybe they experienced famine?) and only a few representatives of each race left lying on the ground in what appears to be ruins. These figures also look like they are children.

Birds tend to be symbolic, therefore, I've always wondered why certain STS dominated civilisations have chosen the eagle to be their symbol? Is it because its a bird of prey? I also wondered at our two mythological bird and reptile representatives: the dragon and the phoenix. One seems to be caught up in a perpetual cycle of destruction and renewal and the other, well it just seems to be waiting for some mythical knight to do something violent to it with a sword. I'm sure these mythical symbols are important, but I'm not sure why.

 

[blindpsychic]

I also wondered at our two mythological bird and reptile representatives: the dragon and the phoenix. One seems to be caught up in a perpetual cycle of destruction and renewal and the other, well it just seems to be waiting for some mythical knight to do something violent to it with a sword. I'm sure these mythical symbols are important, but I'm not sure why.

Remeber too, that the dragon is traditionally lying atop a mound of riches and wealth that it can never use and prevents others from making use of it.

 

[Gimpy]

This Denver thing has always scared me Irini.

From "Irini" to "Iron" is just a small jump. One peculiar thing about birds is also that they have magnetite in their brains, which is a particular form of Iron oxide.
A Birdy (great movie!) has this in common with the HUMAN being and … the pig.


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In looking over the images of the Denver Airport, I've recognised elements of Navajo sandpaintings in them. For further research on the use of colors and their meanings:

# Indian Sandpainting of the Greater Southweest (ISBN 911010-92-0)
Copyright © 1963 by David V. Villasenor.
# The Navajo Art Of Sandpainting by Douglas Congdon-Martin (ISBN 0-88740-271-2)
Copyright © 1990 by Schiffer Publishing, Ltd.
# Navajo Sandpainting Art (ISBN 0-918080-20-7)
Copyright © 1978 by Eugene Baatsoslanii Joe & Mark Bahti
# Sandpaintings Of The Navajo Shooting Chant (ISBN 0-486-23141-0)
Copyright © 1937 by Franc J. Newcomb & Gladys A. Reichard

Rainbows are used in sandpaintings as forms of protection.

Another interesting theme in Indiginous life is the battle of the Eagle and the Feathered Serpent, or the Eagle and the Snake.
These are natures in every person that have to battle things out.

Navajo Sand Paintings are Lures for the Spirits to come and help with a healing. No painting is published without one element missing or wrong
to show respect to the sacredness of the art.

I dont know what the first image from the Denver Airport means, but it reminds me of the legends of many Native peoples that say they came into this world "From a cave" or "From Underground". The symbols used in that first image remind me of sand paintings and certain glyphs from South America.

Those murals are the most disturbing I've seen in a long while.

I dunno if it would matter who made them or not. The art speaks on its own, a warning, a trap, and a language hidden under a rock.


Think I need a shower now...


Gimpy

 

[skyfarmer]

Magnets for breakfast, anyone?
The threads regarding magnetite jogged my memory about some nutritional information I learned during a course at a Natural Health seminar. If you are a label reader, you'll notice most cereals, breads and products made with flour are iron fortified. The FDA has approved food fortification for over 60 years, with the belief that the populace was iron anemic, especially children. However, as many middle school science students can tell you, the iron (that is, "reduced iron") which fortifies may staple food products, can be collected by crushing the cereal and waving a magnet over the powdered cereal, and AMAZING! the magnet is covered with a fine iron powder(which is magnetic, of course). see http://media.nasaexplores.com/lessons/03-073/k-4_2.pdf for a class project teachers can prepare for their students to teach about nutrition, and WHAT it is supposed to teach them. Where does this "nutrient" come from?...the smelting industry. Incidently, you'd be appalled at the sources of the other nutrients that fortify our foods...better to make what you eat from scratch.
Now, from a natural health perspective, this form of iron is harmful and most natural health advocates will agree that the best form of iron is heme-bound iron,(as found in liver, meats) because the iron is more easily absorbed without causing free radicals like the reduced iron does, which hits your stomach acid and creates a free radical iron molecule looking for a couple of electrons (any free oxygen anywhere? Fe++ and O2 = rust; hence, anemic like symptoms despite the iron in diet). However, old habits...and theories, die hard, and nutritional research is not where the money is...especially when this reduced iron has been linked to a disease called hemochromotosis, or iron overload! The general medical community maintains that this is a hereditary disease, and that iron fortification does not pose health risk. Typical! Iron overload can cause fatigue like illnesses (suggesting they need more iron cause they're anemic), heart disease, parkinson's, liver diseases, cancers, Alzeimer's, etc.. Many of these diseases are at the top of the list for premature death and dibilitation,...
It's also interesting to note, that most doctors are in agreement that a blood sample should be drawn, preferrably by a professional hemotologist, to determine if supplementation is necessary. Why then does the FDA feel that iron fortification of foods is alright? hmmm..... maybe it's the same mentality that felt it was OK to keep using Thimerosol (mercuric alcohol) for preserving vaccines up until, and apparently beyond, 2004.
It's also interesting to note that the medical community still prescribes phlebotomy, or blood-letting, to restore elevated blood-iron levels to normal, or....to donate blood regularly! It's also suggested that an aspirin a day to prevent strokes and clogging arteries, will help iron overload also, since this causes a small amount of bleeding from the stomach...a form of blood letting without the needles. There are chelating agents that can help with reducing iron levels, but good luck even finding a DR who understands this request. read more of this absurdity: http://www.foodnavigator.com/news/ng.asp?id=59975-iron-overload-scientists
If you choose to google for more information on hemochromotosis, keep in mind that there are a number of parameters which affect the absorption and assimilation of iron into your blood stream. Most of the sites will have conflicting information as to the cause and treatment of iron overload most likely because of the numerous variables necessary for iron absorption which aren't taken into account with most statistical data. Some of the main ones are:
1. having a strong enough gastric acid (HCl) is important, think twice about taking those antacids.
2. having enough Vitamin C in your diet
3. the balance of zinc, iron and copper...an abundance/deficiency of any of these will cause a shortage or abundance of the others.
4. the amount of water, not fluids, you drink...this affects the amount of dissolved solids in blood. see www.watercure.com (Book: Your Body's Many Cries for Water...the best preventative health book you could ever read)
5. the amount of regular exercise you take
6. numerous other levels of hormones, micronutrients and dietary combinations that help or hinder iron absorption
7. Medications one may be taking

the following site has more info on hemochromotosis, from a natural health perspective
http://www.hcvanonymous.com/SMF/index.php?PHPSESSID=fdca741551fa8e0964746a1a42250a98&topic=1564.15

Can you tell natural health is my first passion?...but really, getting back to magnetite...or has the connection been lost in my ramblings? hope not, it becomes easy to suspect that the FDA is just another organization that has hidden agendas and a big fat back pocket.

As for the birds,...interesting mystery. (Would like to add that many birds of prey are also carrion feeders...)Methane caldrates have been mentioned, but I'm curious about the location of old landfills in relation to these massive bird deaths.... My husband mentioned going to an outdoor concert and how flames shot up when a friend extinguished a cigarette on the ground. Found out that the concert grounds were over an old landfill site. Just a point to ponder and suggest we not limit our methane theory to bodies of water.
canary in a coal mine, indeed!

***always harvesting food for thought

 

[Charles]

Magnets for breakfast, anyone?
The threads regarding magnetite jogged my memory about some nutritional information I learned during a course at a Natural Health seminar. If you are a label reader, you'll notice most cereals, breads and products made with flour are iron fortified. The FDA has approved food fortification for over 60 years, with the belief that the populace was iron anemic, especially children. However, as many middle school science students can tell you, the iron (that is, "reduced iron") which fortifies may staple food products, can be collected by crushing the cereal and waving a magnet over the powdered cereal, and AMAZING! the magnet is covered with a fine iron powder(which is magnetic, of course).

Thank you very much for the information, Skyfarmer. This would be a valuable topic for the Diet and Health section.

When I came home yesterday evening, I told my wife. She is a teacher of mathematics (mainly) and some sciences. She knew about the little experiment with crushed cereals and a magnet.

Maybe this could be a fine source to get enough magnetite in order to construct some magnetite impregnated wood as a microwave absorber. It would be the first time in many years that we would buy some Kellogg’s product. :)

As for the birds,...interesting mystery. (Would like to add that many birds of prey are also carrion feeders...)Methane caldrates have been mentioned, but I'm curious about the location of old landfills in relation to these massive bird deaths.... My husband mentioned going to an outdoor concert and how flames shot up when a friend extinguished a cigarette on the ground. Found out that the concert grounds were over an old landfill site. Just a point to ponder and suggest we not limit our methane theory to bodies of water.
canary in a coal mine, indeed!

***always harvesting food for thought

Here is another interesting discussion thread.
http://www.news.com.au/comments/0,23600,21035741-421,00.html
Here too, it is usually methane, and H.A.A.R.P. or other radiation that is hypothesized as the possible cause.

 

[iggy]

I just wanted to add that there was also a case in Idaho last month in which thousands of wild ducks fell from the sky dead. The local state fish and game representatives determined the birds died as a result of some respitory problem as well. Linda Moulton-Howe did a report on her www.earthfiles.com website in late Dec.

IMO, it is not beyond the realm of possibility that this is caused by whatever it is they are spraying on all of us. Last year, we got it real bad here in California. This year, NYC and the east coast is getting it real bad too. Check out the videos of this hero documenting..

http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=Airshipal

I've also seen some from France. Are you guys getting strange skies your way? Hows the weather been the past year?

 

[Petey of Lone Tree]

If the earth were slowing its rotation, as I read somewhere, thereby causing the poles to wobble ever so slightly, would this cause the magnetic lines of force surrounding the earth to become distorted? And thus confuse the birds, who according to one theory migrate and navigate by some sort of interplay between the magnetite in their brains and the earth's magnetic fields?