Descriptions of the "afterlife"/5th Density

Ysus said:
Not too sure either but I gather at least some of the (not yet) learned lessons can be detected where we repeat, where we loop.
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I agree.

And also in the things that we try to avoid because we don't like them or they cause us fear or rejection.

For example, I don't like community meetings where things are decided about the building.

The same people everywhere I've lived, who seek out gratuitous arguments and misunderstandings, and they thrive on it.

Consequence..., life makes you President of that community so that I have to go to all the neighborhood meetings.:-D
 
Wandering Star said:
The C's have said that the review between lives (fifth density) occupies a space similar to that of incarnated life (fifty fifty).

Incarnated we are continuously busy until death, so I have thought that in fifth density it will be the same.

So we are born as a blank sheet of paper that is filled with life.

We die and continue working on what is written on the page (who we are at the moment of death) until the work is exhausted and the second death arrives.

That's why those who died as children are seen by their relatives in a near-death experience, as teenagers or adults.

The experiences continue to make the most of what is written on the page during the incarnation.

Then we die in fifth density (second death) remaining or integrating with our true self.
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Both of the highlighted statements pique my interest. For the first one, I don't recall anything in the sessions like what you have said. Can you help me find that reference in the sessions?

Regarding the second highlighted statement, I kind of get what you are trying to say, but I have a problem understanding how something non-physical can die (the soul), this is very confusing.
 
christx11 said:
Both of the highlighted statements pique my interest. For the first one, I don't recall anything in the sessions like what you have said. Can you help me find that reference in the sessions?

Regarding the second highlighted statement, I kind of get what you are trying to say, but I have a problem understanding how something non-physical can die (the soul), this is very confusing.
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The C's have said that the review between lives (fifth density) occupies a space similar to that of incarnated life (fifty fifty).

October, 22 1994

Q: (L) Does the interaction between the spirit/soul and the body physical produce some by-product that is desirable to other beings?

A: Well, all things have desirable consequences as well as undesirable consequences, but it must also be mentioned here that everything that exists in all realms of the universe can experience existence in one of only two ways. That would be defined as a long wave cycle and a short wave cycle. Going back to your previous question about why humans are "entrapped" in physical existence, which, of course, is voluntary and chosen, this was due to the desire to change from the long wave cycle experience of completely what you would call ethereal or spiritual existence, to the short wave cycle of what you call physical existence. The difference is that a long wave cycle involves only very gradual change in evolution in a cyclical manner. Whereas a short wave cycle involves a duality. And this is the case with souls in physical bodies as is experienced on this earth plane because the soul experiences an ethereal state for half the cycle and a physical state for the other half of the cycle. While these halves are not measured in time the way you measure time, the totality of experience is equal in each half. The necessity to form the short wave cycle was brought about through nature through the natural bounds of the universe when the group mind of souls chose to experience physicality as opposed to a completely ethereal existence.

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Then we die in fifth density (second death) remaining or integrating with our true self.
Wandering Star

Thread 'What is the second death?'

I would like it if it is possible for someone to explain this concept to me with more precision. Especially linking the traditional explanation, with that provided by the C's.

Does consciousness not aligned with a soul disappear?

Return to the common information bank for that species, as is supposed to happen with animals?

In my life I think I interact with at least one organic portal and despite its drainage for years, I worry about its future.

He told me that in a dream, he saw deceased relatives and one said provoking great pain: "What are you doing here, if you do not exist?"...
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Wandering Star said:
The C's have said that the review between lives (fifth density) occupies a space similar to that of incarnated life (fifty fifty).

October, 22 1994

Q: (L) Does the interaction between the spirit/soul and the body physical produce some by-product that is desirable to other beings?

A: Well, all things have desirable consequences as well as undesirable consequences, but it must also be mentioned here that everything that exists in all realms of the universe can experience existence in one of only two ways. That would be defined as a long wave cycle and a short wave cycle. Going back to your previous question about why humans are "entrapped" in physical existence, which, of course, is voluntary and chosen, this was due to the desire to change from the long wave cycle experience of completely what you would call ethereal or spiritual existence, to the short wave cycle of what you call physical existence. The difference is that a long wave cycle involves only very gradual change in evolution in a cyclical manner. Whereas a short wave cycle involves a duality. And this is the case with souls in physical bodies as is experienced on this earth plane because the soul experiences an ethereal state for half the cycle and a physical state for the other half of the cycle. While these halves are not measured in time the way you measure time, the totality of experience is equal in each half. The necessity to form the short wave cycle was brought about through nature through the natural bounds of the universe when the group mind of souls chose to experience physicality as opposed to a completely ethereal existence.
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I thought this excerpt may be what you were referring to.

I never understood this passage to mean what you are implying.

this was due to the desire to change from the long wave cycle experience of completely what you would call ethereal or spiritual existence, to the short wave cycle of what you call physical existence. The difference is that a long wave cycle involves only very gradual change in evolution in a cyclical manner. Whereas a short wave cycle involves a duality. And this is the case with souls in physical bodies as is experienced on this earth plane because the soul experiences an ethereal state for half the cycle and a physical state for the other half of the cycle. While these halves are not measured in time the way you measure time, the totality of experience is equal in each half.
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I have always interpreted this as meaning that physical existence itself, a life in physicality, is one-half physical and one-half ethereal (consciousness). Even a rock is one-half physical and one-half ethereal and that is the duality of the physical experience. I am not sure that it has anything to do with 5th density per se. But I could be mistaken.
 
Appreciating the info here on dying and the afterlife and don't find mention of

Cayce’s Lost Interview on the Soul, Death and the Future of Humanity.​


Video goes superficially into his description of after death realms but is an intro. Is there a thread here? Post here says video unaivable, why as it is not? Am I not allowed?
 
christx11 said:
Both of the highlighted statements pique my interest. For the first one, I don't recall anything in the sessions like what you have said. Can you help me find that reference in the sessions?

Regarding the second highlighted statement, I kind of get what you are trying to say, but I have a problem understanding how something non-physical can die (the soul), this is very confusing.
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I thought the idea of ‘the second death’ was a reference to organic portals and not soulled individuals.

Q: Do "organic portals" go to fifth density when they die?

A: Only temporarily until the "second death."

{This refers to an esoteric tradition teaching that some consciousness units dissipate over a period of 40 days after death unless the individual has crystallized an individuated soul.}
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Palinurus said:
I am watching it here so maybe you didn't enter the link properly:

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@Enki, I searched below this YT video for any sources given for this "lost interview" and could not find any. There is no "interview", just AI narration. Have you checked the sources where this content comes from? In general I think its necessary to be diligent, as there is more and more maid up AI generated content.
 
Breo said:
Have you checked the sources where this content comes from? In general I think its necessary to be diligent, as there is more and more maid up AI generated content.
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No, I didn't.

When @Enki mentioned that the video wasn't available here while it was definitely available elsewhere I simply googled the video-title and got the video I subsequently posted here as some sort of service to him and anyone else who might be interested (me included).

I didn't any follow-up research since it seemed legit and it was what he was trying to show.
 
Palinurus said:
I didn't any follow-up research since it seemed legit and it was what he was trying to show
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Helping @Enki that's ok, for shure :)

Why I referred to it, is that I noticed that
inspite the title "interview" there is no interview, just a narrator plus no sources presented. For me, with a quick glance, it's open if it's legit or not.

I think, it's about paying attention, we are a research forum and to check the sources of information when posting is part of our service on the forum and part of the Work - to learn and exercise discernment. Fwiw
 
Enki said:
Appreciating the info here on dying and the afterlife and don't find mention of

Cayce’s Lost Interview on the Soul, Death and the Future of Humanity.​

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I tried to research the source of it. There is a another version of the video here. On the official Edgar Cayce site, I could not find any direct reference to this interview but there is a book from Cayce that, upon his request, was only published recently, 70 years after his death. So maybe the text of the video is part of this book: My life as a Seer: The lost Memoirs.
 
Breo said:
Helping @Enki that's ok, for shure :)

Why I referred to it, is that I noticed that
inspite the title "interview" there is no interview, just a narrator plus no sources presented. For me, with a quick glance, it's open if it's legit or not.

I think, it's about paying attention, we are a research forum and to check the sources of information when posting is part of our service on the forum and part of the Work - to learn and exercise discernment. Fwiw
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Fool me once...

Good discernment lesson! You all seem a more than equal and opposite reaction to Hive Mind!

Why don't I see Breo's first response. This was not a channel I follow, but suggested by YT after training. When asking AI what models it used for the following query (response below) into the video, it gave a chilling answer, "No proprietary or downloadable AI models were referenced in the review—all findings are based on established research and verification methods."

So I established I'm established. "Fact" generator checking itself. But will it notify the government of its own behavior? Where's the card catalogue! I remember when it was getting erased from Berkeley's 2 dozen plus libraries 43 years ago, and my dad's partner was part of making it disappear internationally. The psychic lobotomization of inspired self-direction before our eyes. Rewriting books next? Books, "What are books daddy." Even many mystery schools seem largely establishment quo. I was shocked when I started wondering about Steiner's sources.

Love you Anti Hive,

Perplexity AI's 2 cents:

Legitimacy of the "Banned for 70 Years" Edgar Cayce Interview​

Overview​

The video titled "BANNED for 70 Years! Edgar Cayce’s Lost Interview on the Soul, Death and the Future of Humanity" claims to present a secret interview with Edgar Cayce, allegedly recorded in 1944 and sealed for seven decades. It describes Cayce revealing the "seven levels of the soul" and other spiritual insights.

Investigation of Sources​

1. Mainstream and Academic References​


  • No academic or mainstream historical sources (such as the Edgar Cayce Foundation, scholarly biographies, or reputable archives) document the existence of a sealed or "banned" interview with Edgar Cayce from 1944.

  • Cayce’s documented readings (over 14,000) are publicly archived and have been extensively studied. None mention a lost or forbidden interview matching the video's claims12.

2. YouTube and Social Media Circulation​


  • The "lost interview" narrative appears exclusively on recent YouTube channels and social media accounts, often with similar titles and scripts, but no verifiable primary source or transcript is provided345.

  • Multiple channels have published videos with nearly identical content, all referencing the same unverified story and using dramatic language about secrecy and suppression345678.

3. Books and Official Cayce Archives​


  • Authoritative biographies and the official Edgar Cayce Association for Research and Enlightenment (A.R.E.) do not mention any such interview or transcript12.

  • The Internet Archive and other repositories of Cayce’s work do not contain any reference to a "banned" or "sealed" interview from 1944910.

4. Cayce’s Actual Legacy​


  • Edgar Cayce’s trance readings covered topics like health, reincarnation, and spirituality, but there is no documented evidence of a final, secret interview or a transcript hidden for 70 years as described in the video12.

Table: Source Evaluation​

Source TypeNotes
Official Cayce Archives (A.R.E.)No record of a sealed interview12
Scholarly BiographiesNo mention in major works or archives910
YouTube/Social MediaCirculates unverified claims, no primary evidence345
Academic/News PublicationsNo coverage or validation found
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Mentions Lost Interview?​
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No​
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Conclusion​

There are no legitimate, verifiable sources confirming the existence of the "banned for 70 years" Edgar Cayce interview. The story appears to be a recent internet myth, propagated by YouTube channels and social media, with no basis in Cayce’s documented history or the archives maintained by his official foundation and biographers3412.
  4. Edgar Cayce - Wikipedia
  6. Psychic Ability is the New Normal
  8. The Metaphysics of the Edgar Cayce Readings
  9. - YouTube
  10. - YouTube
  11. - YouTube
  12. https://archive.org/stream/the-slee...e/The Sleeping Prophet - Edgar Cayce_djvu.txt
  13. https://www.theosophy.world/sites/default/files/ebooks/the_sleeping_prophet.pdf
  14. Edgar Cayce Talks About Consciousness | Awaken
  15. https://content.edgarcayce.org/about-us/blog/blog-posts/finding-the-lost-memoirs-of-edgar-cayce/
  16. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jJKRXQWca0
  17. https://www.scribd.com/doc/49172290/Edgar-Cayce
  18. https://cdn.preterhuman.net/texts/other/crystalinks/edgar_cayce.html
  19. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMk7gKBjUG0
  20. https://dokumen.pub/download/edgar-...hardcovernbsped-1573221392-9781573221399.html
 
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