Did we evolve to eat meat?

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Also, why would anybody want to eat a diet that is "incredibly difficult" which suggests strongly that it isn't natural? Further, with the planet in the shape it is in, the likelihood of severe food shortages ahead, how can you justify the enormous quantities of food you probably must eat to get your daily quota when an 8 oz piece of meat can do for a person an entire day if need be. More than that, in case you didn't notice, an ice age is coming... meat eaters will survive, plant eaters won't.
 
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Laura said:
I'm not so sure it works great for you. But then, that's just my perspective. You seem to be having a hard time grasping the inner content and meaning of words; possibly brain fog due to lack of animal fats and proteins in the diet. I've seen the same thing in many, many people who eat raw foods and limit their fats.

Warning: I'm not trying to be insulting, I am sincerely concerned here.

Thanks for your concern Laura. But I eat a lot of meat these days. Possibly 200 grams a day.

80/10/10 is very hard to sustain in a society like this, first because I am so sharp that I get so annoyed by everybody so slow and foggy that everybody seems to be drunk and that I feel like an alien, and the other reason is that I have to live almost completely out of alignment with the rest of the world (can't eat out, etc..).

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You keep missing points, twisting words, and basically failing miserably in your argument, but don't seem to have the capacity to see that. It seems to be a sort of semantic aphasia. This discussion with you reminds me of an article I read some time ago:

Incompetent People Really Have No Clue, Studies Find
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I will take that one with me.
 
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Perceval said:
we were not to infer that moral issues around eating meat have influenced your line of argumentation?

It's not about a moral issue. It's about what my instincts prevent me from doing. Why is the turnover rate of employees in slaughterhouses so big?
 
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Dirk said:
Because there seems to be a lot of right and truth here on the forum too. Realize that lots of it challenges my own world view. I am pretty sure you guys are right about more things than I am.

So why not try it and get a firsthand experience?

Dirk said:
I do eat animals. And the more I eat them, the less I care about them. I don't believe in eating strictly vegetables. Tried that with disastrous results. There aren't enough calories in it anyway.

So you do have some idea that eating only vegetables can be harmful. Why did you start eating animals?
 
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Laura said:
Also, why would anybody want to eat a diet that is "incredibly difficult" which suggests strongly that it isn't natural?

Because the whole world is out of alignment with what is natural?

Laura said:
Further, with the planet in the shape it is in, the likelihood of severe food shortages ahead, how can you justify the enormous quantities of food you probably must eat to get your daily quota when an 8 oz piece of meat can do for a person an entire day if need be. More than that, in case you didn't notice, an ice age is coming... meat eaters will survive, plant eaters won't.

Great point Laura, I have thought of this a lot and what it would imply for my diet.
 
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Dirk said:
Perceval said:
we were not to infer that moral issues around eating meat have influenced your line of argumentation?

It's not about a moral issue. It's about what my instincts prevent me from doing. Why is the turnover rate of employees in slaughterhouses so big?

Maybe I'm not understanding you, but it seems to me that that's the same as saying it's a moral issue.
 
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Perceval said:
Maybe I'm not understanding you, but it seems to me that that's the same as saying it's a moral issue.

A moral issue is intellectual, I am talking about instinct.
 
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Shijing said:
That seems to be more semantic quibbling. Laura didn't say that meat would actively heal the body, she suggested that healing of the body would be the result of switching from vegetable consumption to meat consumption -- when it would no longer be irritated, as you say.

I agree she didn't write that meat would actively heal it. The point I made is that it might just as well heal if something else (or nothing) is eaten that doesn't irritate the digestive tract as the vegetables do. Switching to meat is not the point. Leaving out the vegetables is.
 
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Perceval said:
Dirk said:
Perceval said:
we were not to infer that moral issues around eating meat have influenced your line of argumentation?

It's not about a moral issue. It's about what my instincts prevent me from doing. Why is the turnover rate of employees in slaughterhouses so big?

Maybe I'm not understanding you, but it seems to me that that's the same as saying it's a moral issue.
I have to agree with Percival, that statement of yours he quoted did sound to me like a moral argument as well.

Perhaps the turnover rate of employees in slaughterhouses is so large is not because of that fact that animals are being killed (if that were the case, they never would have agreed to such a position) but rather because of how they are killed. Other factors unrelated to killing may come into play as well.
 
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truth seeker said:
(if that were the case, they never would have agreed to such a position)

I don't know, maybe it pays well and people give it a try, but their conscience doesn't allow them to continue with it? Sure, it makes a big difference, how they are killed.

Anyway, thanks for the fruitful discussion, fellow forum members, my brain is fried :P.

I will come back to the discussion in a while and read everything and see how 'incompetent' my arguments really were.
 
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Jerry said:
Dirk said:
Perceval said:
Maybe I'm not understanding you, but it seems to me that that's the same as saying it's a moral issue.

A moral issue is intellectual, I am talking about instinct.

?!?

I am raising the question, what will I do, or any other human do, when they shut out the intellectual and emotional part of their brains and act out of instinct in scenario's where they are not severely threatened?

I don't think that is a 'moral' issue and I think that can give interesting perspectives on how things work.
 
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