Disturbing Phone Call

Drea

Drea

Jedi Master
About two hours ago my boyfriend received a call from someone he knew in high school. This person recently got out of the military, and is seemingly going through PTSD. He was drunk and he told him that he couldn't take it anymore. Before my boyfriend could get off the phone, the guy told him that he would see him real soon. He tried to ask him what he meant, but the guy told him that he already knew what he meant.

I don't really know what I am asking for, but I am very concerned. This guy does not seem to have his head on straight, and my b/f suspects that he may be holding a grudge. We feel like we are being targeted, but maybe we are over analyzing the situation.

Any words of wisdom are welcome :umm:
 
Hi Drea,

With so little background info, it's very difficult to say what you should or should not do. Did you or your boyfriend have issues with this person before? Was your boyfriend also in the military and involved with this person? Could you give more background information so that members can have a clearer picture and hopefully be able give you more appropriate responses.
 
I agree with Vulcan that more info is needed. However, if both you and your bf are worried by the call, maybe it would be a good idea for your bf to speak to the guy again, when he isn't drunk, and let him know that he does NOT wish to see him?
 
Apparently there was a general dislike or clash between my b/f and this guy in high school. No, my boyfriend was not in the military and has actually always held a resentment for war ect.. which may have helped to fuel the conflict. Also my boyfriend had a child with said person's ex girlfriend. If there were a grudge that would be the main issue. Personally, I was not around for all that, so I cannot give much insight. However, I can say that my boyfriend was very shaken for a long time after the conversation, and kept repeating that he did not trust him.

It is a good idea to call him back and maybe give him another chance to explain himself. This is a guy who supposedly walks around and talks about his exploits killing innocent children though.. I know I don't want to talk to him!
 
Drea said:
It is a good idea to call him back and maybe give him another chance to explain himself. [..]I know I don't want to talk to him!
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neither would I if I were in your shoes, it doesn't strike me as a good idea at all.

does this person live in the same town as the two of you??
 
Hildegarda said:
neither would I if I were in your shoes, it doesn't strike me as a good idea at all.

does this person live in the same town as the two of you??
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He lives a town away, but he says that he is in another state right now. Unfortunately, I am home alone as the b/f works night shift so I'm a bit uneasy. All I can really do is hope that I don't see him any time soon. Maybe this guy will wake up tomorrow and realize he was too drunk to control his actions, or forgets completely..

Tonight before bed I am going to say a little prayer for protection FWIW
 
I`m going to relate my own thoughts here, having dealt with combat vets and all the insanity associated with that.
I`m not saying this to frighten you, but you must understand what you "could be" dealing with.

These are people who have crossed the line ( I have heard this term repeatedly from them) and since they have already crossed the line which corresponds to killing Innocent people, for the most part, they already feel that there is no way back, so what`s one or two more.

They are already "condemned" in their own minds and there is NO salvation.

These are extremely dangerous human beings, they may have been to begin with, but war has given them permission to kill and some of them liked it.. and any and all threats they make is a " very" serious matter! Nothing to be ignored.

I would advise that you or the bf contact his commanding officer, and also his chaplain ASAP.. and relate this incident exactly as it happened.

They must be notified, and they will take it seriously, but they must know, in order to intervene!

They would immediately assign him into a "Psyche unit" where he would be monitored and talked "down".
( usually a 30 day stay )

Please, I really can not stress enough, that you must notify the base he is stationed at, his commanding officer and a chaplain. For your protection, also that of this person, and anyone else he may hold a grudge against, because without intervention this could escalate further then you think, especially if he continues the drinking.
 
Meager1 said:
I`m going to relate my own thoughts here, having dealt with combat vets and all the insanity associated with that.
I`m not saying this to frighten you, but you must understand what you "could be" dealing with.

These are people who have crossed the line ( I have heard this term repeatedly from them) and since they have already crossed the line which corresponds to killing Innocent people, for the most part, they already feel that there is no way back, so what`s one or two more.

They are already "condemned" in their own minds and there is NO salvation.

These are extremely dangerous human beings, they may have been to begin with, but war has given them permission to kill and some of them liked it.. and any and all threats they make is a " very" serious matter! Nothing to be ignored.

I would advise that you or the bf contact his commanding officer, and also his chaplain ASAP.. and relate this incident exactly as it happened.

They must be notified, and they will take it seriously, but they must know, in order to intervene!

They would immediately assign him into a "Psyche unit" where he would be monitored and talked "down".
( usually a 30 day stay )

Please, I really can not stress enough, that you must notify the base he is stationed at, his commanding officer and a chaplain. For your protection, also that of this person, and anyone else he may hold a grudge against, because without intervention this could escalate further then you think, especially if he continues the drinking.
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I concur with Meager1. I would contact chain of command and the police. Meager1 is right, once the cross they threshold you MUST consider them dangerous, there is no other option.
 
Drea said:
Maybe this guy will wake up tomorrow and realize he was too drunk to control his actions, or forgets completely..
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That will most likely be the outcome: he'll feel stupid (if he cares), and wave it off to the drunk.


Not a lot to go on with your description, but your boyfriend (by your description) seemed concerned or fearful (maybe because of what he heard and thought the other was going to possibly do, or insinuating).

If this call was out of the blue, i.e. no regular contact, then if I was your boyfriend, I'd call him back the next day around suppertime, and have a chat to see what was going on.

Better to gather more info, than worry over the little you know.
 
Actually, I would advise against calling the cops unless absolutely necessary.

This is seen as an "armed" enemy to a vet and the cop is always at a distinct disadvantage because he doesn`t have either the experience or the mindset for dealing with these guys.

He might even consider a combat vet, some kind of hero, and put himself in further jeopardy.


A combat vet will see himself as greater then any cop.. and will almost always violently challenge them.
This is pretty much a given.

The other scenario is if this guy really wants to end it, he will provoke the cop into killing him. ( suicide by police officer )

Ether way, if the police get involved the outcome is usually not good.
These guy respect ONLY the military, their combat "brothers" and nothing else.

Of course there is always the chance that he was just drunk and blowing off steam.
But even so, a threat is a threat and should be reported, especially in this case.
 
If someone is calling your boyfriend out of the blue, drunk, and recently returned from Iraq, having been known to be heard bragging about killing children, yeah, I think he should call the CO or the unit chaplain. If the unit does nothing and the dude keeps calling, then inform police. The history between them is volatile, especially if the soldier considered the ex to be 'his'.

Sometimes doing nothing works with these guys, but a man who brags about killing children doesn't strike me as one of those...he's looking for a reason to lash out, no matter what you say or don't say.
 
Another thing that concerns me very, very much, and must also be mentioned if you do decide to call his vets CO etc, is the fact that this guy is or seems to be, around the bf`s child.
The child of someone he possibly considers an enemy.. and if he has bragged about killing children..then this child could be in extreme danger as well.

Not a good situation here. Not at all.
 
Drea, Take Meager1 advise...I was in Law Enforcement for many years and this is typical to what we would call "Flip-out"...I have worked with many criminal/psychotic mind sets and this sounds like either a call for help or I'm coming to set things straight....Don't tank chances unnecessarily, you don't want to end up as a statistic...See the local PD A>S>O>P> let more experienced people handle it good luck Roger
 
Azur said:
Drea,

How are things going? Everything OK?
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Things are going ok. My b/f talked to some people who knew the person and he decided it was not worth worrying about. The people he talked to said that this guy was always a little bit "off", and they didn't show much concern. Also, we live pretty securely, so I cannot see someone trying to break into an apartment complex. Even if he attempted to, someone would see him as there are people awake 24/7 around here.

If there is another phone call from him I will notify someone, but my feelings about this changed after hearing what others who knew him had to say about it.
 
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