DNA Activation and some observations

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eightfold said:
The HeartMath Institute has a website that goes into some of the !
that is why I was asking the question if anyone had experienced any actual changing other than some vague aches or pains that could be anything?
I've posted about my experiences several times here on the forum. At first I was curious as to why knowone responded. But the internet being what it is, it's incredibly hard to believe anything just because it is written. Even if I have documented research of what has been happening for the past three years. So, Tschai, when you ask if anyone has experienced actual DNA changing I am wondering what your looking for? Even if someone DID experience something, it would probably be pretty hard to believe.
After my first read-through of the C's sessions, I started to have increased levels of awareness followed by out of body experiences, strange entity attacks and sightings (yes, I saw them wide awake right in front of me.), and also, the ever present display of green and purple light both in low lighting and with eyes closed. The light is always present, and sometimes takes the shapes of faces and beings at times.
I also believe it had something to do with the Spinning the C's suggest, which I do daily. 3 x 33 spins.
But the fact of the matter is it is impossible to relay these exepriences to others, especially over the internet. I've thought about getting a video camera and taping one of my meditation sessions to see if the light I see comes up. Who knows, maybe I will, though I suspect it is something that comes from inner sight more than anything else. I've been reading alot of Castaneda lately and something don Juan said struck me as very profound: "We begin to SEE-that is, to perceive something else; not as imagination, but as real and concrete. And then we begin to know without having to use words."
So yeah, I'm aware that SOMETHING very real is happening to me and once you gain light of it you just kind of keep doing what your doing and watch some more. I can't see my DNA though, so I can't tell if it's changing.

Another of the answers I think lies in session 020226:

A: Suffering activates neuro-chemicals which turn on DNA receptors.

Suffering of all kinds, I imagine. But it's not like flagellation. You have to suffer to follow a path, or a goal. I have suffered to follow my path, both emotionally and physically. And that path has always been towards truth. If you stay with it, through thick and thin, you feel changed, there are spaces inside you that you never had before. Maybe they are DNA changes. Only time will tell.
 
Cat dont bother with camera, its definitely the internal eye and it seems we will be learning how to use it more and more in days to come

I can report the same lights, at first I use to think that these lights are just the reaction to excessive gazing at the screen but now it has become obvious it is not that. I never considered myself psychic before and I would be quite scared with the whole idea. But in last few months I have had several mild "psychic" episodes and also had become aware of certain entities in my environment few times. Once I glimpsed sea aura and that was quite an experience.

I have experienced sleeping paralysis many times before in my life and I always felt so helpless and vulnerable, recently I had strange experience where I woke up to become aware of energy attack and I manage to stop it and shake it off there and then, I think this happened thanks to the awarenes and knowledge, once you have awarenes you are safe even when you sleep cos your higher self will wake you up. All in all this has been quite a journey. There are moments when I am scared out of my wits but slowly slowy these moments are diminishing.

I think as your knowledge and awerenes is growing your body i.e dna reacts accordingly. Everything at its own pace.
 
GreyCat said:
tschai said:
eightfold said:
The HeartMath Institute has a website that goes into some of the !
that is why I was asking the question if anyone had experienced any actual changing other than some vague aches or pains that could be anything?
I've posted about my experiences several times here on the forum. At first I was curious as to why knowone responded. But the internet being what it is, it's incredibly hard to believe anything just because it is written. Even if I have documented research of what has been happening for the past three years. So, Tschai, when you ask if anyone has experienced actual DNA changing I am wondering what your looking for? Even if someone DID experience something, it would probably be pretty hard to believe.
After my first read-through of the C's sessions, I started to have increased levels of awareness followed by out of body experiences, strange entity attacks and sightings (yes, I saw them wide awake right in front of me.), and also, the ever present display of green and purple light both in low lighting and with eyes closed. The light is always present, and sometimes takes the shapes of faces and beings at times.
I also believe it had something to do with the Spinning the C's suggest, which I do daily. 3 x 33 spins.
But the fact of the matter is it is impossible to relay these exepriences to others, especially over the internet. I've thought about getting a video camera and taping one of my meditation sessions to see if the light I see comes up. Who knows, maybe I will, though I suspect it is something that comes from inner sight more than anything else. I've been reading alot of Castaneda lately and something don Juan said struck me as very profound: "We begin to SEE-that is, to perceive something else; not as imagination, but as real and concrete. And then we begin to know without having to use words."
So yeah, I'm aware that SOMETHING very real is happening to me and once you gain light of it you just kind of keep doing what your doing and watch some more. I can't see my DNA though, so I can't tell if it's changing.

Another of the answers I think lies in session 020226:

A: Suffering activates neuro-chemicals which turn on DNA receptors.

Suffering of all kinds, I imagine. But it's not like flagellation. You have to suffer to follow a path, or a goal. I have suffered to follow my path, both emotionally and physically. And that path has always been towards truth. If you stay with it, through thick and thin, you feel changed, there are spaces inside you that you never had before. Maybe they are DNA changes. Only time will tell.
I really don't know what to look for, and kind of why I was asking folks if they were feeling anything out of the ordinary-I have read your previous posts and those of others who have been seeing some really strange stuff-and quite frankly I'm glad I don't see such things-encounters with bizzare beings when least expecting it would very distressing. I have seen UFO's- one at quite close range-no mistaking what it was-but to my knowledge have not met up with any of the occupants (we may have contact with ET's every day and never know it-I myself am of Irish descent so maybe some of my ancestors were from Kantek-who knows?)

Sometimes I feel like I see something out of the corner of my eye-or get the very real sensation there is someone in the room with me when no one else is there-but we are supposedly surrounded by disincarnate beings and creatures, and other dimensions which are just a matter of frequency (or so I have come to understand)-some folks are apparently sensitive and can discern these other realms-kind of like a radio station that fades in and out-you cannot quite tune it in. Perhaps when you are tired, under stress or what have you-these "stations" are perceived a little more clearly. I just don't know. I often think I see something that appears to be like an after image-of buildings and things superimposed over the existing real time image-but I can't be sure if it's not just a trick of lighting or the eyes.

Other times I swear I have seen the very air seem to waiver-and at times there will be a very real and definite hiccup-like time suddenly slowed down or sped up-just for a blink-but enough to make you say "whoa-what the heck was THAT? Sensations like things are moving-and my favorite one-go out into a dark night when the stars are shining-and just suddenly look up. I swear, the stars seem to race into place or seems like they are all wrong. I know this is just an optical illusion-but it sure seems like the "gods" are playing tricks by shifting everything around.

Out of curiosity-have you ever tried to communicate with these beings / creatures you see? Do they seem malevolent-like they want to do you harm? That would be really creepy-has anyone else experienced this when they were with you? Really weird-and scary.

I guess my main reason for wanting to ask about this is: if a lot of people that are posting here were feeling similar things-and experiencing other noticible manifestations such as increased synchronicity, psychic, telepathic, telekinetic or other psi type things, it might be a kind of indicator of a sort-to let us know the Wave / Realm border crossing were closer or imminent. But some or none of these things may happen until AFTER the Wave has come. Or maybe nothing will happen at all- the DNA changes may take place in a "virtual" or alternate reality and will not integrate until everyone merges with their 4th Density persona. I just don't know.
 
Deckard said:
Cat dont bother with camera, its definitely the internal eye and it seems we will be learning how to use it more and more in days to come

I can report the same lights, at first I use to think that these lights are just the reaction to excessive gazing at the screen but now it has become obvious it is not that. I never considered myself psychic before and I would be quite scared with the whole idea. But in last few months I have had several mild "psychic" episodes and also had become aware of certain entities in my environment few times. Once I glimpsed sea aura and that was quite an experience.
These lights, after seeing them for the past three years, each time I close my eyes, or in a darkened room during meditation, are certainly not from excessive gazing at a screen. I have watched them a LONG time now. First off, they are sometimes so bright that I seem to be in a full blown LSD experience (which I've never had, but have heard stories.). Last year for a few weeks, I could see a huge spiral galaxy like thing, swirling slowly directly in front of me. It was very very odd.
I've had some experiences as a kid, and have had sleep paralysis for years, but it is only recently that I started having this stuff attract enough of my attention to warrent serious attention.
I also went through a period of a few weeks, while in Norway, where I saw auras on everyone around me. the weird thing was, that some people had this LONG purple ray of light that shot directly down upon them from the ceiling (I was inside at rehersals that whole week so I couldn't see if it came from the sky or not.). One of them was a particulary powerful and sensitive actor. It made me think that he was 'channeling' in a sense.
 
I had an experience a while ago that may be related to this discussion. I was just laying on my bed, relaxing, eyes closed, not asleep, and I was thinking of my son in the other room. All of a sudden - zoom- I was looking right at him, in his room, I could see him very plainly, all around him, right through his duvet and sheets actually. I was so surprised I nearly fell off the bed, opened my eyes, and it was gone. The whole thing only lasted a few seconds. I went in and checked on my son and everything was exactly as I had seen.
I guess you could call it a psi experience, - it felt like it was happening internally, like behind my eyes, not outside of me. But it all happened so fast, I barely had time to register what was happening, so I can't really report too much about it. I really don't think it was my imagination, but who knows? This was a few months back and it hasn't happened since.
 
Tschai:
I really don't know what to look for, and kind of why I was asking folks if they were feeling anything out of the ordinary-I have read your previous posts and those of others who have been seeing some really strange stuff-and quite frankly I'm glad I don't see such things-encounters with bizzare beings when least expecting it would very distressing. I have seen UFO's- one at quite close range-no mistaking what it was-but to my knowledge have not met up with any of the occupants (we may have contact with ET's every day and never know it-I myself am of Irish descent so maybe some of my ancestors were from Kantek-who knows?


GC:
The one I had a month ago was distressing indeed, as they have all been. I didn't post it here as there seemed no interest. And frankly, as I have said, the internet just isn't the place for this sort of stuff. How could you believe me? Why would I WANT you to believe me. If you believed me, would it make it more real for me? I've finally concluded that this is my own work and until I have something truly tangable to give, then I have to do it alone.
After a while you go from terror to anger to acceptance at which point you take action. I am now utterly facinated by the exepriences and do my utmost to clairfy and understand them. I am very grateful to the work of Laura and the SOTT team for alot of thier research. For example I learned from them that STS forces do thier utmost to take and never give, expecially knowledge. The attacks stopped as soon as I learned to fear them less and observe them more. Once I began LEARNING from them instead of being terrified by them, then those forces started to loose out.
We are now at a stalemate and I'm sure the portal of attack will switch to another avenue which will require even more insight, attention, and resources to detect and counter.
The game continues...

Tschai:
Out of curiosity-have you ever tried to communicate with these beings / creatures you see? Do they seem malevolent-like they want to do you harm? That would be really creepy-has anyone else experienced this when they were with you? Really weird-and scary.

GC:
Yes, I have. The thing that I gather is that language doesn't WORK in the etheric. You can't voice a request per say. Instead you have to fire a thought at them. I have had one instance where I could feel some sort of communication happening but then I got so excited I lost it. I think it takes a delicate and focused mind to do this. But I'm working on it!
Most of the creatures I have seen are malevolent. What happens exactly is that I am in a dream and I can feel the dream change. Suddenly a normal scene is invaded by element of the dream chasing me or trying to do me harm. When I awake I can see, quite clearly above me, these beings. It's not fun, but aside from energy drain seems physiclly harmless. I get the impression that they are feeding off my fear reactions.
There are also different types of dreams. One where seduction takes place and an element of the dream trys to intice me into intercourse. Others I call the 'chasing' dreams as they try to incite fear by chasing me. And others I call a 'probe' where I am in a dream and I feel a distinct stabbing sensation that I can feel in my body somewhere. I call these may 'quarterly checkup', probably to reboot my implants or something.


Tschai:
I guess my main reason for wanting to ask about this is: if a lot of people that are posting here were feeling similar things-and experiencing other noticible manifestations such as increased synchronicity, psychic, telepathic, telekinetic or other psi type things, it might be a kind of indicator of a sort-to let us know the Wave / Realm border crossing were closer or imminent. But some or none of these things may happen until AFTER the Wave has come. Or maybe nothing will happen at all- the DNA changes may take place in a "virtual" or alternate reality and will not integrate until everyone merges with their 4th Density persona. I just don't know.

GC:

Funny you should mention it, because there are definetly times when this sight is BLAZING in my head and other times when it is much less. I too associated them with the coming wave and even have dubbed them 'tides'.
I'm at the point where I am looking deeply into psychic forums and various practices of the phenomena like remote viewing and such. I feel I have enough basic knowledge to discard the obvious pitfalls and might even find some amazing gems to help me figure out what is happening to me.
Again, if your interested in having more clarity to these experiences, I would have to reccomend both spinning and meditation as the real keys. And, of course, always a stance of non-anticipation.
 
I think that the point of this thread, at least what is read between lines (and I maybe the way off) is we try to validate whether we do progress indeed (whether something inside us has been changed since we came here) and how fast we do progress, if any.
It's like we are trying to get some confirmation from environment, and maybe even to tell ourselves that we do in fact progress because of synchronicities of various kinds and changes in perception [I don't know if seeing energy patterns is a shift/change in perception]. Because we expect changes and I think desire them. But that is exactly how STS act.
I also think what GreyCat wrote is very important that we shouldn't anticipate or expect anything, but just work diligently. I like very much one Chinese saying that I think fits here perfectly :"Do the best you can and let heavens decide an outcome". It well may be that we DO anticipate as in so many threads many of us are writing of different synchronicities... How to get rid of it? Easy said, how it's done?
To me personally it's not as important whether I will make it (I mean passing at least 1-st threshold) in this round, but that I make a conscious choice. Because it isn't purposeless wandering in all directions but steady-state approaching a definite goal. It's like seeing your destination on the line of a horizon. You don't know whether you'll make it to there or not, but you do move there and keep an eye on the destination not to be diverted. And everyone moves with own speed. Actually I don't have an idea whether it's possible to assess own progress because that's the case when object and subject of study merge. Or, not, when everything will fall apart and attacks will come from everywhere - maybe that will mean that some progress it being made and lizzies are quite irritated?
I also had some strange experiences recently. One morning was looking in kitchen window and started seeing like snow of little golden flakes falling all over from the sky. It was very real and lasted like for 30 min all the time I looked outside. Exactly like snow falling and dancing in the sunlight, but it was golden. Nobody else had seen it. No idea what a heck I saw. It was only once anyway. And every time I close eyes I see something, or geometric figures, or faces (but not in colors we usually see, but like CAT-scans, with green cheeks and purplish-violet spots all over, and colors constantly change). I never was interested in spiritism or likes, and if I can't explain it logically, just put in farthest drawer of mind on hold.
 
tschai said:
Out of curiosity-have you ever tried to communicate with these beings / creatures you see? Do they seem malevolent-like they want to do you harm? That would be really creepy-has anyone else experienced this when they were with you? Really weird-and scary.
Once, sort of and I regreted it.

This was the time when a noticed presence in my room, I was sitting in front of the PC and more in my mind's eye then in the corner of my eye I have become aware of this silhuete sittng in an armchair that is never used. It definitely had a human shape- sort of like crash test dummy and it was made of whitish light.
Suprisingly I wasnt that scared - spooked is better word. I decided to ignore it. And this went on for days , on and off. Mr. Light Bulb as I started to call this entity would appear in the same chair usually when I would least expect it. Actually he wouldnt appear, I would become aware of it.
Then one day I was quite high. It was a nice sunny day, I just came back from running high on endorphins and felt quite powerfull. So I got this silly idea that Mr. Light Bulb is actually my Higher Self which was trying to contact me.
And then I did the stupidest thing . I went there and sat in his chair ( which by the way I had for years in the same place and always avoided sitting in it for no conscious reason, like everyone else actually). I had this silly notion that if I sit there I will reunite with my higher self.
Didnt feel antyhing while sitting there, but after I moved from there I experienced total mood swing, from extreme exaltation I felt all day I went to emotional rock bottom ( and I am not manic depressant :) ). The day passed and I went to sleep.
Sometime in early hours I regained consciousness and in this semi awake state ( when you are avake but still can vividly experience remains of the dream ) I could hear this terrible voice screaming in Italian, in the same time I could feel like this attachment to my spine in thoracal region. I also felt totally paralised and this was familiar frightening experience of total powerlessnes. While when this was happening before I would be just aware of enormous fear and nothing else, and would just lay there powerless in utter panic this time I started repeating something-Like get away from me, you cannot touch me , I am the being of light and now I will give you all my light, if you want my energy you will have to take my light to, intense and beatiful, the light of creator and beware so it doesnt burn you. (this was the only thing I could think of and it was inspired by podcast on Laura's case of exorcism)
As soon as I started repeating this I could move my toes normaly and I felt this enormous sensation of energy, coming in vawes from the base of my spine.
I have neevr experienced something like this. It was empowering experience. But still it wasnt clear to me what this really is - my internal power waking up or something to do with parasitical attachment on my spine.
The puzzling thing was that the attachment on my spine didnt stop immediately I could still feel it but then it faded away slowly.
It was clear to me that this attacker was warded of and I fell asleep shortly after.

I am not really sure what happened here.
How is the presence in the armchair during the day connected to the night time attack.
I was thinking about my attempt to contact this being that appeared during the day and now I realize this was totally silly. Logical reasoning is telling me that STO beings couldnt really be bothered to try and communicate with us in such manner.

Also I think that these beings are quite afraid of our awarenes, whic leeds me to belive that we can fight them easily with our thoghts and concentrated efforts of awareness.

maybe attacks like this use to happen all the time. I remember experiencing sleeping paralysis several times in my life but I dont remember much. Maybe this was the first time that my awarenes fortified with knowledge has awaken me up durring the attack.


Another remote possibility could be following:
Maybe Mr. light Bulb was indeed my Higher self but as soon as I attempted this contact my STS guardian from 4 D has kicked in to dissrupt this contact and attach it to somethin unpleasant , to scare me off


On some level I feel that everyone who wants to advance has to be prepeared to deal with these creatures as they definitelly exist along the path and will not readily let us pass.
Castanedas followers are also mentioning something on these lines - they say once you master the movements ( tensgrity) , your voladores comes as he normally does but this time you are aware of him and as soon as he realizes that you can see him ( as these being found their existence on our oblivion to their presence) he flees in panic.
this would confirm my theory that we can easily fight these beings as soon as we are aware of them.

But this is just a contemplation nothing more
 
Cat dont trouble yourself with the question if anyone will beleive you.

i think it is extremely important that we share such experiences as we can definitely learn alot from eachother, thats the whole point of networking... :)
 
Thanks for sharing th experience Deckard!
I agree with your comment of STO entities and being able to communicate with them. Though I do believe we can all channel inspiration by 'asking questions and recieving answers', more direct communication at this point would probably be more dangerous than beneficial. I always assume that I am being observed like any sheep in a pen. So wanding over to the fence to get some quick escape lessons is just a plain no no.
I've just dived into the Castaneda books lately and they are very helpful. Excellent material for those walking the Silent Path.
And yes, the wave will come just when it will come.

You wrote:

"secondly I fully undertsand this time what CS meant when they said - knowledge protects.
These beings or entities are very afraid of our thougths and our conscious states.
I think this is the best weapon against them , thoughts. "


I have also entertained the notion that they are less afraid of our thoughts and more afraid of showing themselves BECAUSE IT'S AGAINST THIER ORDERS. The STS system is a very complex heirarchy. So maybe there are specific orders no to materialize because any sighting gives a wealth of information as to the nature of these beings (as opposed to back in the day when knowone would believe farmer Jim and his outlandish stories.). I feel like we are in the last rounds of the match so the more in the dark we are, the easier we will be to control when there is a 'level playing field'. So for now, they just back off instead of getting nasty.
I always imagine the lizzies saying 'wait till the wave hits, you little bald ape and then your MINE!'.
I like to consider such possibilities as a sort of reality check so I don't get all pumped up and try to be some 'light warrior' or something. The notion, of course, is just speculation. Maybe my higher STO self is always present and, although it cannot directly intervene, the light from it counteracts any direct tampering with me...unless I start to get cheeky and make a break for the fence.
You never can tell at this stage.

I agree as well about sharing the experiences. I mostly want to cross check them with others to see if we can find common solutions and stuff. I have had one experience where it was literally a battle of wills, with something attached to my sexual chakra (it's a long story.). This was literally a 'thought tug-o-war' of sorts. I've also had experiences with light where in an OBE with grays in the room. I clasped my hands, prayer style, and a light exploded from my chest. I woke up instantly, saying 'I fought them off!'.
Knowledge, as you mentioned, has been KEY. With each experience I get more of an understanding of these entities and experience less fear.
 
they say that we will be ready for 4d only after we stop craving food, and physicality

Does this mean when our body no longer feels hunger or when we no longer have to take care of ourselves? Or does it mean when our minds no longer feel it is necessary and see it as a physical nuisance?

Because, from what I remember, 4d denizens still have to imbibe some food for energy.
 
:) You remind me somewhat I was some time ago, like a year ago. I wanted to talk and talk about lot of things, that in the majority I was wrong.
Just let it be, the DNA will change in its own, I think there are more important things to resolve before the DNA, because I think these DNA changes are to help us to adjust in a new level of thinking. But not the most relevant part of all this.
 
Flux2012 said:
Alright then. Still trying to figure everything out really.

Lol sorry if you was thinking my last post was for you. It was for Tschaichai or whatever nickname has.
 
Here is my personal observation on an event that occurred during a remote Reiki session done by a friend of mine last week.


First this friend decided to do a session on every day for five days in a row and on the fourth session we did it remotely together, i was meditating in my home while the reiki was done at her home.

During my meditation, I saw that my DNA was being unrolled it look somewhat like a ladder...! Then light was given to it, pore into it and for the last part, they made it spin after, it was repositioned in my body. But, I don't know if strands where added as I cannot see clearly in meditation.

After the session as I was a bit flabbergasted by that "seeing" I phoned my friend to tell her if she saw something related to my DNA and, to my surprised, she started telling me EXACTLY what I just describe to you here in the right sequences.

Maybe this is "A" procedure along possibly others that the C's described as saying:

From session 11-26-94

Q: (L) Well, the question I do have is, how many people were there on the planet and did they have to take each one and do this individually? How did they effect this change on all of them?

A: Light wave alteration.

Q: (L) And light waves, actual light waves, affect DNA?

A: Yes.

Q: (T) What was the origin of the light waves?

A: Our center. Our realm. STO. The Reptilian beings used sophisticated technology to interrupt light frequency waves.


Cheers
 

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