Don't flatter yourselves.

[genero81]

Dear Menna,

I figured if there was one member who would have a problem with my post it would be you, and it appears I was correct. I'm telling you this right here and now. YOU ARE STS, NOT STO. Unable to handle any sort of criticism because you have a tiny little insecure heart that can't stand "outsiders" undermine your spiritual name that you have garnered for yourself here. Too much light (=knowledge/wisdom), too little love. The Law of One considers STS the light/love path whereas STO is the love/light path. Highly self-focused you are. All the knowledge in the world won't change that. I advise you to consider that you were wrong about your polarity, and the sooner you realize this, the faster you can transcend the ladder of STS. This is not a damnation, as one can always shift polarity. Instead it is intended as an enlightenment for yourself.

You are out of line with this post. You are acting like a jerk and that is not tolerated here.

Yeah, that's not cool. You come here to start something beginning with the title of this post, and then when a long time member who contributes on a regular basis and knows how to be respectful has something to say, you go on the attack. Very judgemental, which if I'm not mistaken, is very STS.

 

[Turgon]

Dear Menna,

I figured if there was one member who would have a problem with my post it would be you, and it appears I was correct. I'm telling you this right here and now. YOU ARE STS, NOT STO. Unable to handle any sort of criticism because you have a tiny little insecure heart that can't stand "outsiders" undermine your spiritual name that you have garnered for yourself here. Too much light (=knowledge/wisdom), too little love. The Law of One considers STS the light/love path whereas STO is the love/light path. Highly self-focused you are. All the knowledge in the world won't change that. I advise you to consider that you were wrong about your polarity, and the sooner you realize this, the faster you can transcend the ladder of STS. This is not a damnation, as one can always shift polarity. Instead it is intended as an enlightenment for yourself.

You are out of line with this post. You are acting like a jerk and that is not tolerated here.

I agree. And the above may not be a damnation, but it sure comes across as making a number of judgments about Menna. How about following your own advice.

So please, until you are having personal interdimensional experiences which clears away all the fog about your personal polarity, STOP THIS JUDGEMENTAL BEHAVIOUR which means taking the newbie member messages more seriously aswell as being more questioning of the oldie established member.

 

[United Gnosis]

Indeed. DoomAndGloomIsALie barged in with some claims, which were not entirely inappropriate, but rude in their sheer abruptness. While is true that workers here tend to appear harsh to newcomers (and sometimes even mistakenly persist - I've seen some wise contributors be turned away), it is a natural aspect of rigorous discernment being applied to the network of intermirroring agents.

On the other hand, DoomAndGloom showed a lack of external consideration, failing to either properly introduce context to the network, to present himself or warm up the discussion of the claims. Although familiarity with the concepts of the work is obvious, application of same is still lacking, as evidenced by the slippage into self-important identification and deeming oneself fit to judge others while unilaterally dismissing feedback from multiple agents of the network.

Basically, DoomAndGloomIsALie slipped into his own karmic trap, allowing ego ("I'm the one who will make them see they're wrong!") to pull him into a self-fulfilling prophecy.

 

[Richs]

Greetings y'all members of the Cassiopaea club,

DoomAndGloomIsALie, here you have entirely the wrong impression. This forum is essentially an online Esoteric School, and not a club!

As a fellow semi-awakened spiritual being who like everyone on this planet used to operate primarily on the organic portal mindset, I first of all wish to send y'all some packets of love/light energy which is accepting of all things (outside ofcourse STS energy which is non-accepting and you can't accept non-acceptance).

No, you are here to show us that we are all wrong and only you have the answers. We have had lots of people who came here with the same agenda.

Now, this may be a bit harsh but you have to understand I have no intention of being viewed in a positive light

Don't worry, we are quite capable of determining this for ourselves.

This may be in part that I prefer the Law of One teachings which I personally feel are less distorted (no offence, I like alot of your material as well, yet my skepticism remains towards some sections).

What you prefer is most certainly up to you, as is what you like and dislike. Please extend the same courtesy to those of us here on the Forum.

I can also understand why you are more attracted to the Law of One stuff because it provides much more of the 'lovey stuff' than the data and concepts we work with here. Here, we see the 'downside' as much as the 'upside', and that makes many people uncomfortable. That is called being objective and seeing things as they actually are to the best of one's ability to do so. This is a bit scary at times, but essential for real growth and progress.

I hope you will have what it takes to join us in this.

Now, I sometimes check in to read some topics out of nothing but sheer innocent interest yet I can't help but out my feelings on how some members seem to be operating on some kind of spiritual ego where they attribute STS behaviour on all kinds of things which are in reality NOT NECESSARILY STS at all. Yet y'all seem to agree that this or that is manipulative (aka STS)

Are you implying with this that if many people agree about something based upon what they know at any particular moment that it is wrong of them to do so?

and if some (mostly newer) member disagrees then you even go a step further and label this person as STS.

To my knowledge this is not true, and if you can provide any example of this we surely would like to hear it.

If anything, since none of you have ever set foot into STO 4D reality, none of you in fact can know for certain

This is entirely true, and I have stated that myself in a few posts. However, we do have some clues and indications of what would most likely be STO and STS behavior, and since many of us are working to become "4D STO Candidates", we do our very best with what information and knowledge of these things we currently have as we can.

Who are you to decide what is STO and what is STS?

I does not actually matter "who" we are. Everyone has the free-will right to decide for themselves what they think about any subject at all. We certainly do not need your approval. On the other hand, you are also free to think any way you want on any subject. And, how is it that you think you have any right to tell us how and what we should think?

Please, I am here to inform you that STO is NOT about self-delusion, it is about REALITY and CLARITY.

Funny, I though you just said we could not know or understand what STO was about until we got to 4D and experience it ourselves. So, how can you now 'inform us' what STO is all about?

It is pretty obvious you have not read much or any of the books Laura has published or those on the suggested reading list. Until you do you are not really going to be able to understand much of what goes on here or why we think in the way we do.

 

[Menna]

Dear Menna,

I figured if there was one member who would have a problem with my post it would be you, and it appears I was correct. I'm telling you this right here and now. YOU ARE STS, NOT STO. Unable to handle any sort of criticism because you have a tiny little insecure heart that can't stand "outsiders" undermine your spiritual name that you have garnered for yourself here. Too much light (=knowledge/wisdom), too little love. The Law of One considers STS the light/love path whereas STO is the love/light path. Highly self-focused you are. All the knowledge in the world won't change that. I advise you to consider that you were wrong about your polarity, and the sooner you realize this, the faster you can transcend the ladder of STS. This is not a damnation, as one can always shift polarity. Instead it is intended as an enlightenment for yourself.

Where do you see that I had a problem with your post? I responded to it that doesn't mean I have a problem with it. I didn't attack or lash out at you.

I know I am STS everyone in 3D is if I was completely STO I wouldn't be here my point was that there are varying degrees of STS and STO not all or nothing.

If you feel that way about my heart that fine however its tough to tell about someones heart without knowing them, meeting them in person, interacting going through life with them IMO. The way you put it "tiney little insecure heart" sounds very fantasy im not sure that a heart can be insecure and if size is compromised I would have health problems what you probably mean is that there are programs that you believe I have that I haven't worked through that trigger emotions that I can't control so I respond emotionally? No?

Have I gathered a spiritual name for myself? It seems that you think so. "The best don't think their the best - the best think they have to get better". I feel that I have grown in spirituality in a personal way but in growing I can see where improvement has to be made. Wether or not I have "built a name" or whatever for myself I don't care about or think about. In all honesty I don't consider myself a long time member or anything like I don't even have 1,000 posts yet I started 6 yrs ago however the C's experiment and the people involved started in the 90's if im not mistaken those are long time members I try and carve out time to respond to people as I see fit with my level and I am open to advice and such.

I said my polarity is STS do you not agree and think I was wrong to say I am STS? Once again everyone is STS with varying degrees IMO no one is purely STO so my polarity is STS I said this in my last post.

 

[Henchman 21]

IMO doom and gloom probably won't be back. After rereading this train wreck I don't think this person has any clue about the difference between sts and sto or anything regarding 'the work'. Clearly no idea of how to relate to anyone in a pier setting. Likely just a mindless troll. Why he or she is so angry I can not tell but I can say with reasonable confidence that he or she became his/her own self fulfilling profecy as United gnostic said.

Doom came with complaints of how Nubies are treated here (clearly not understanding that all who are here were at one time nubies), only to do exactly what an ego-driven nubie would do to get such negative responses. Now I do wish the best for this character but gloom and doom clearly came here with absolutely no respect for anyone so I just can't figure out why doom is even here.

Take care doom and gloom. Maybe you will find all the love and light you are looking for but IMO you certainly ain't got much to begin with and you probably won't find it here. I recommend reading more and working on yourself and If there is a time when you aren't so doomy and gloomy maybe try social interaction.

 

[sitting]

So please, until you are having personal interdimensional experiences which clears away all the fog about your personal polarity, STOP THIS JUDGEMENTAL BEHAVIOUR which means taking the newbie member messages more seriously aswell as being more questioning of the oldie established member.

Hi there,

I think if you truly comprehend the body of work that's been done by Laura (and others), over a span of 21 years, you would not be coming forth in the manner that you have. And it's a shame because I sense in some ways, you too are a seeker--like most of us.

To me, this place is an Ark (with a real life Ark as co-helms person). Presently floating in trouble seas but soon to face the real deal. It's got to be protected. It must be protected. And it's too important to be distracted.

You've stepped onto this boat. And rather than seeing its life giving quality, you choose to complain about the color of the paint. That's a bit short sighted.

FWIW.

 

[Michael B-C]

Sounds to me DoomAndGloomIsALie that you might want to contemplate starting over again. Not a smart and informed way to cross the threshold of this forum by making your introductory post about how you disagree with its key tenants. Your chosen name - DoomAndGloomIsALie - suggests wishful thinking boarding on paranormalism. Observing objective truth both left and right and deciding that there is overwhelming evidence to suggest we are in a terrible state down here on planet earth is not a lie nor does it entail DoomAndGloom and so I would suggest you consider reconsidering this title. Many of the posters here have helpfully pointed out to you some glaring errors of judgement in your posts (the most basic being we are all STS in this environment, it being a natural universal law at this time, and so the issue of anyone claiming STO status is a misnomer) which you might chose to contemplate and then research; there's plenty of valuable information here that will set you on your way and help you rid yourself of what comes across as a 'messiah complex' that is a sure sign that the Predator's mind (an integral part of being human) has a grip on your thinking. You have found the right place to grow and learn - well done - that's a huge step in the right direction. The rest is up to you. The choice is yours. No one here will waste time trying to battle you into agreement but there is just no point hanging around, trying to convert others to your way of thinking. We've all watched many such similar attempts peter out as it becomes abundantly clear that no one is listening and that sound and fury signifying nothing will get you nowhere. Good luck. I hope you take the right steps as you have found a very rare chance here to actually make some progress. :)

 

[T.C.]

I don't think doom... is really asking for anything except attention and energy, and maybe to have some fun. I think any replies they get will only strengthen their view of the forum and its members. Anyone who tries to 'help' will be seen as preaching an incorrect subjective view, and anyone who attempts to counter dooms trolling will confirm for doom that the members of the forum don't tolerate anything other than the views of the forum.

 

[Sol Logos]

When people give "lessons" that no one asks for about how "enlightened" people should behave, or what STO should be, you can be sure those "lessons" are of very poor quality.

 

[Mikey]

IMO doom and gloom probably won't be back.

I'm not so sure. DoomAndGloom​IsALie probably is enjoying himself blue by posting what he has posted. I think he will be back!

 

[Arwenn]

I don't think doom... is really asking for anything except attention and energy, and maybe to have some fun. I think any replies they get will only strengthen their view of the forum and its members. Anyone who tries to 'help' will be seen as preaching an incorrect subjective view, and anyone who attempts to counter dooms trolling will confirm for doom that the members of the forum don't tolerate anything other than the views of the forum.

My sentiments exactly.

 

[Seaniebawn]

Don't flatter yourselves., oh the Irony don't fool yourself DoomAndGloomIsALie.

 

[Azur]

You see, what I'm trying to say is that if you guys are gonna be all talk about true spirituality and STO polarity then you must start behaving this way

I've taken your quote above out of context. Fair warning.

I'm asking you a completely unfair question: explain "must start behaving this way" (bolded above).

Thanks.

 

[davey72]

I am curious as to where it is that you see this forum as being an "advertised place for sto enlighted souls"?

Also, you also seem to be misinformed about the forum in general. Most of this forum are all at the very least interested in working towards a common goal, osit.

You may want to look at this thread

http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/board,39.0.html

And reading the wave which is available for free online can answer many of the questions you may have about what that common goal is exactly, along with the diet and health section.
The Wave can be found here:
http://cassiopaea.org/category/volumes/the-wave/
Happy reading. :)