Dysmenorrhea - Severe Pain During Menstruation

Scarlet said:
Thanks for the tips, foxey, and welcome to this forum! :D

So now you have suggested progesterone cream, Laura suggested it in this thread AND it is also suggested in the book that my mother purchased for me. Hmm, maybe I shouldn't be going without the cream this time around after all. I think I'll keep using it as directed (starting 12 days after the 1st day of my period and stopping just before the date it's scheduled to begin). I will also be researching this herb you've mentioned and congratulations on finding something that's worked for you!

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No, I would strongly suggest you stick with the progesterone cream.
 
Laura said:
No, I would strongly suggest you stick with the progesterone cream.
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I second that! It may take 2 or 3 months until you start noticing a big difference, but you WILL! If you diet is now correct, and you take the progesterone and the supplements, the pain goes away, I can assure you. You may feel a mild pain one day, but that's it.

Congratulations on your progress. :)
 
Thank you so much, Laura and Ailen, for emphasizing how important it is that I keep using this cream! I've decided I'm going to keep with the same regimen of cream and supplements that I tried this last time around then. Maybe after a few months or so I will change things if my symptoms don't improve. I plan to keep this thread updated with my discoveries, and by the way, my acne is still getting better! Maybe this Pan Acid (Vitamin B-5) supplement I've been taking has something to do with that. Hmm..:)
 
Scarlet said:
I have had really painful periods since I started menstruating, but for almost a half a year now I have been experiencing new and disturbing symptoms during menstruation. I've been in so much pain that I'll take 800mg of Ibprofeun in the morning just to take the same amount again in the afternoon. These amounts only help with the pain, but they do not take it away. The periods last for about two days and they don't always arrive at regular intervals either. Also on the first day of my period the pain has been so great that I've gotten extremely lightheaded and dizzy to the point that I think I'm going to faint. I also become very nauseated. I have vomited on the first day of my period for the last four out of five periods. I nearly vomited last month too, but somehow was able to breathe myself out of it after long periods of laying on the bathroom floor.
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I can feel with you !

I have struggled with the pain for years, at last I was so sensitive to Ibuprofen and other painkillers, they downright knocked me out. I have taken up to 1600mg per day and at night, pain waked me up and often I have taken a further pill. Last year I was so fed up to live all three weeks in a half
vegetative state , that I surched for a better alternative. Since about a year now I take
Colocynthis D6 and aditionally extra magnesium, so the pain is tolerable to some degree. (Not a permanent solution!).

Ailén said:
I second that! It may take 2 or 3 months until you start noticing a big difference, but you WILL! If you diet is now correct, and you take the progesterone and the supplements, the pain goes away, I can assure you. You may feel a mild pain one day, but that's it.
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I am very interested in the progesterone cream, cause I just read
„ The Miracle of Bioidentic Hormones from Michael E. Platt“ , and
progesterone and it´s positive effects are also mentioned in the book. (Very informative)

Currently I am somewhat insecure with the cream, maybe someone can give me an advice wether it´s a good idea to test the cream without a hormon checkup, or better to visit the doc before applying the cream ?

Thank you !

Scarlet said:
Thank you so much, Laura and Ailen, for emphasizing how important it is that I keep using this cream! I've decided I'm going to keep with the same regimen of cream and supplements that I tried this last time around then. Maybe after a few months or so I will change things if my symptoms don't improve. I plan to keep this thread updated with my discoveries, and by the way, my acne is still getting better! Maybe this Pan Acid (Vitamin B-5) supplement I've been taking has something to do with that. Hmm..:)
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Best wishes !
 
Nimue said:
Currently I am somewhat insecure with the cream, maybe someone can give me an advice wether it´s a good idea to test the cream without a hormon checkup, or better to visit the doc before applying the cream ?
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Hello Nimue and thanks for your supportive comment! :) I was also insecure about trying the cream when I first learned about it from reading on this forum last Fall. When I asked my postmenopausal mother about it she said it wouldn't help me and that I was wasting my money. Well, I bought the cream anyway, after doing more research online, and tried it out for a couple of weeks in the Fall. I noticed I was getting more acne on my face, looked that up online to see it was a possible side effect, and then I chose vanity over health and stopped using it. :/

Last month I used the cream again, but I've also been taking lots of extra supplements (mainly extra B vitamins--see info in this thread for specifics here) and my acne is actually getting better, so who knows about that! I also noticed less intense symptoms of PMS and I didn't vomit (though I felt a bit nauseated) and wasn't constipated either during my last menstruation. IMO something new worked, but I'm not sure.

Consulting a doctor may be a good idea, but I haven't noticed any harm using it on myself without a doctor's recommendation. Everyone is different though, of course! It's just like lotion to me, actually. Expensive lotion. ;) This is what I've been using:

_http://www.amazon.com/Progesterone-Herbs-Bioidentical-Paraben-Free-Creme/dp/B0016G7VY0/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1298580020&sr=8-7
 
I was rereading some threads online about the progesterone creme after reading your latest entry, Scarlet, and am going to look into trying the creme. I think it's a good investment for me despite not having a lot of money currently, and is not too expensive. My pain this month was not as bad overall, but the first day was really quite severe in terms of pain and flow. I've had a lot of stress and slightly worse diet which probably aggravated it. Really it was just that one day that was bad though, so I guess it is "better"? Was taking zinc more regularly though not baths due to a new living situation without a bath. Was using sauna more regularly during the month though (dry sauna, not infrared). I had a gym membership for bathing purposes and used the sauna as a benefit. Using the sauna even during menstruation helped with pain also. Unfortunately I don't have the sauna access anymore.
 
Hey D Rusak, check out the discussions about the cream on the Ultra Simple Diet thread, if you haven't already gotten the chance. I think Laura mentioned in that thread that she uses the same version of the cream that I have (the one with the green label that I posted the Amazon link to). Also, I remember my veterinarian friend mentioned that I should vary the areas I put it, but I've just been rubbing it in on the skin on the insides of my arms.

So, we'll see how my March period goes. I'm B-vitamin girl three times a day and must also remember this cream. I think it's funny that my mother said the cream would be a waste of money and then bought me a book that recommends it as a possible treatment. Haha! ;D Oh, my dear mother. :)

Well, good luck with your next period!!! I'm shooting for no more feeling like I want to throw up and for just less pain overall. Let's do this!
 
Scarlet said:
Consulting a doctor may be a good idea, but I haven't noticed any harm using it on myself without a doctor's recommendation. Everyone is different though, of course! It's just like lotion to me, actually. Expensive lotion. ;) This is what I've been using:
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Hello Scarlet, thank you for your support !

I think the cream will be a good grant, together with my diet and the other supplements. With vitamin B I must be carefull, when I take Vit B my face burns like
fire :(, but I will go deeper into the supplement matter and maybe I will find the right supplements which work for me.

Again: Thank you !
 
Nimue said:
Scarlet said:
Consulting a doctor may be a good idea, but I haven't noticed any harm using it on myself without a doctor's recommendation. Everyone is different though, of course! It's just like lotion to me, actually. Expensive lotion. ;) This is what I've been using:
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Hello Scarlet, thank you for your support !

I think the cream will be a good grant, together with my diet and the other supplements. With vitamin B I must be carefull, when I take Vit B my face burns like
fire :(, but I will go deeper into the supplement matter and maybe I will find the right supplements which work for me.

Again: Thank you !
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Thanks for telling me your experience with B1, Nimue! :) I haven't had that problem, but it's good to be aware possible side effects just in case they do occur.

Also, I want to add to this thread that I have noticed I am spotting a little bit a few hours after applying this cream. The spotting occurred until I stopped using the cream last month (and got my period) and it's been happening again since I started back up applying the cream late last week. I'm not noticing any signs other than that, but the spotting is just enough for me to use a pantie liner. I wanted to mention this in case others are noticing that too.
 
Scarlet said:
Also, I want to add to this thread that I have noticed I am spotting a little bit a few hours after applying this cream. The spotting occurred until I stopped using the cream last month (and got my period) and it's been happening again since I started back up applying the cream late last week. I'm not noticing any signs other than that, but the spotting is just enough for me to use a pantie liner.
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it is said that such a reaction to the start of the treatment is basically normal, but you may want to observe yourself closer and adjust the dosage or switch brands if necessary:


It is quite common when a woman first starts progesterone to have a breakthrough bleed and the appearance of another period. This is often the result of cell receptor ‘wake up’ and influence on the uterine lining and receptor cells therein, such activity bringing on a bleed.

We tell women not to be concerned about this unless it is heavy (haemorrhaging), constant, and/or causing pain that leaves you feeling concerned. It’s not unusual.

Many, many women report ‘wake up’ bleeding as being one of the first things that may happen when they start progesterone.

It represents positive activity in the body.

The Natural-Progesterone-Advisory-Network.com website refers to this ‘first’ bleed as the ‘pretend’ period, indicating the positive impact and presence of natural progesterone.

However, we do hear from women who report too many irregular breakthrough bleeds. They cannot establish a regular cycle and are still feeling quite estrogen dominant with associated symptoms.

Our experience has led us to believe that often unsuitable creams can do this. We suggest that if there is more than one breakthrough bleed and your period becomes erratic rather than stabilising within a four month period, then you seriously need to reassess your cream base.

Often the cream has come up on analytical reports as quite suitable and has the correct BP micronised progesterone, but some creams appear to target the uterus specifically. We really don?t know why this happens. It’s simply our observation. We refer to this effect as ‘dumping’. These same women, once they move to another cream, see more favourable results.

Progesterone balances the effects of estrogen on the uterus and it is necessary to produce regular periods, so if these periods are not being regulated, we suspect there is something wrong with your progesterone cream. If in doubt, stop the cream for a month before you try another brand (if all you prior tests are negative, showing no signs of fibroids, etc).

Incorporate phytoestrogens into your diet, and ALWAYS make sure your GP investigates thoroughly to rule out anything sinister.
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HI, I went through those kinds of pain when I was youger too, Iboprofen or similar did not make much diference, it was until I realized that it was not a curse, punished by the gods for the rest of my life because of being a female, that pains in menstruation began to dissapear, to almost nothing. Almost, because sometimes they come back but not as severe pain, they are like discomfort feelings at my lower back, mostly. And if I am in a worng mood they intensify. -fwiw


mabar
 
Knowing that these symptoms are not permanent does help me, thanks mabar. :) I had a virtually pain-free period last August and I think I even discussed it on the Ultra Simple Diet thread, because I had just started the diet at the time and thought it was potentially related. Then September came and the dinner I ate the first night of my period was homemade and healthy, but for some reason I just couldn't keep it down. Ever since then I feel my body has been screaming at me that something is wrong. I'm working on it, and the last period I had was better than the Sept-Jan ones, so I am hoping for continued improvement in March! :D
 
Hello, everyone! :D I am writing to update this thread with information about my last cycle. I kept with all the same supplements mentioned previously, and continued using the progesterone cream as well. I changed where I applied the cream every few days, (either I rubbed it on the insides of my elbows or on the back sides of my knees). I followed the directions the bottle has for menstruating women: apply 1tsp daily for 14 days starting the 12th day after you began your period). I only noticed spotting issues in the first week, but the spotting actually stopped while I was using it the second week! :D

Also, I began spotting the day after I stopped using the cream and the day after that I got my period. It came exactly 26 days after my last period again! Interesting. I like that I can maybe start to predict exactly when it will come again..:D

I did not feel the urge to vomit except the morning of the third day when I woke up at 2AM with that feeling, but it was weak and I just had a lot of pain in general. I quickly ate something and took 800mg of Ibuprofen and laid back down. So, this is the second time I haven't vomited or been constipated and overall the pain was SO much better than last month STILL! I also seemed to menstruate for maybe a day or two longer than I usually do.

I started reading the book Laura recommended, titled Sex, Lies and Menopause and it's great! I think I found an answer to my problem with all of these changes I made, and I hope my next period is even better! (Not that it could ever become "awesome" though, because that's just not possible with this subject, lol.) :P
 
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