EMF Exposure

Be careful when using D.E. filters.

After fixing our overvoltage problem due to a bad contactor for our generator autoswitch box, we ran a test on generator power. I had been noticing higher voltages when running on generator before all that happened, but I didn't think much of it. Sometimes loads are unbalanced, or whatever... On power grid, volts were stable.

Long story short, we now have whole-house over/undervoltage protection thanks to @fabric. The only trouble was that this new protection kept tripping when we switched over to genny power. Measuring indicated that the V on phase 1 was 252V, with obviously higher spikes that triggered the new over-V protection. Should be 230!

I looked up the datasheet for the Linz 20kVA alternator we have, and the troubleshooting section said that if you have overvoltage problems, the load capacitance may be too high. D'OH! Cue lightbulb over my head...

We had 12 DE filters on phase1, and 6 and 5 on the other phases. Phase 1 voltage was highest on genny power...

Removed the filters, and problem is gone... So D.E. filters are a no-no when running on a generator. Here's why (simplified explanation of course):


I'm pretty sure it would be worse on a smaller generator. Also, the same is true of inverter outputs according to at least one of my viewers.

I don't believe the DE filters ruined the grid contactor for the simple reason that while we were using the filters, we didn't have any power outages - except for the zapping events. Upon switching to genny power, a different contactor is engaged, and that one is NOT burned. I'm gonna clean it a bit and store it as a backup.

Best case, the genny has high voltage or shuts down. Worst case, it can be damaged due to high currents in windings.

So, I guess that lesson #2 is don't assume there's only one problem when there are actually 2 different ones! 🤓
 
Why some people are very sensitive to dirty electricity and some people are not? Why it is so dificult to filter DE, maybe becouse there are two types od DE. Artificial one (also called extremly low frequency) and natural one (called dirty electricity). People who are sensitive to artificial are also oversensitive to natural.

Does transformer station (substation) can be a source of artificial DE? There was weird story from my life. Sometimes when I go near transformer station near my block I feel dizzy and weak (not always, usually when I was beamed in my flat). But when I go near other transformer station on my neighbourhood I never feel weak.

I am usually attack in my home when I publish some posts on the Internet or when I read some controversial books. I learn to not think "on controwersial topics" in my home. I use Internet only outside home.

There is also something called "GSM bridge" on the roof of my block and I think it's a type of WiMAX technology to provide Internet to cell towers. I heard that WiMax can create dirty electricty.

Does DE+microwaves destroys natural regeneration mechanism in human body (stem cells)?

So is this DE really harmful? Some pretty impressive people believe it is. A group of specialists worked on a project called Bioinitiave 2012 (www.bioinitiative.org), and their conclusion is that exposure to EMF (and radiofrequency radiation via WiFi and cell phones) leads to all kinds of negative human health impacts. Their report says exposure can lead to, “loss of DNA repair capacity in human stem cells;
riverreporter.com/stories/is-dirty-electricity-making-you-sick,21024

consciousspaces.com/blogs/science/dirty-electricity-is-your-home-affected

There is also something called "sick building syndrome". I wonder how many people with this problem are also corelated with DE+microwaves problem?

Why there are people who feel impact of Electromagnetic frequencies (EMF) on their body and there are people who don't care abou it. Maybe only some type of people are attacked. Extreamly low frequency can affect only one person in the block or many people in the same block.
drruscio.com/emf-exposure/
 
There is also something called "sick building syndrome". I wonder how many people with this problem are also corelated with DE+microwaves problem?
With all of the massive energies going into 5G (weapons) people are suffering both from intense AC magnetic and the RF fields. While you can't see, hear, feel or taste it (well, some can) it sure effects your health and moods.
*2G to 4+G are communications, 5G is a weapons technology, 6G is parasitic-nano technology (you become the battery/power source).

Many places now have readings which 'peg' traditional meters - especially near windows, in the workplace or outside. They are lethal amounts over time.

They seem to be focusing on having major cities (15-min cities) where there is massive electricity available (nuclear, hydro-electric) and re-directed it from residential/commercial/business use into the 'kill-grid' (track, whack and bag). I think the idea is to lock them down at home and kill them off, bring in more immigrants and repeat until they get to 250-million globally.

Where I'm stuck (I can't get home due to CV restrictions) they re-wired the entire city in about 12-months, and in 2020/21 they added the 5G, especially in school during lock-downs (the 'parents' here are pretty clueless).

This was mostly done at night. At first they had during lock-downs teams go in, setup a tower. They were supposed to not talk to anyone and they couldn't speak English (foreign workers), lol, but as you can see some did. Once a 5G DEW tower was in place the company they worked for was dissolved and a new one started. Rinse and repeat, no one to sue if it all goes bad.

Electrical upgrades werethe same - the 4th largest city in N. America (after Mexico City, LA, NYC) rewired (every street, road...) in a year and mostly at night. Most never even noticed electric lines which had been there for nearly a century suddenly on the other side of the road with much thicker cables, transformers.

This all started in around 2000 (physical) although the R&D, development, planning and financials go back at least another 20-years - 1970s or 1980s. The way it was done was a military operation in terms of precision. In 2001 they put up a huge wind turbine at the fair ground (they always tell you what they plan) and in 2002 the first smart meters (dangerous, puled mesh networks) started going in. If you measure them on a metter they pulse several times a minute and the pulses peg the meters I use.

At that time bills which were maybe $20-40 for 3-months use, read every quarter by a person (meter reader). The bills started going up and the monies funnelled all that time to get the infrastructure for what went in the past 12-months. Now bills are several times what they were for less electricity and billed MONTHLY rather then QUARTERLY, that alone was a 300% increase most idiots in the city never figured out. It was blamed on unpaid pensions, infrastructure upgrades (which never happened unless a line went down), going 'green' and other BS excuses.
* By what they do and the $$$ you know 5G/Electrical is a key aspect of the depopulation and trace program.

Here's some pictures from the upgraded systems. Note how thick the cables are - the EMF readings I get are huge. I'll measure the RF when I can. I bought my first meter almost 25-years ago, I very aware of what the fields used to be like.

Just common sense - the cost alone of new poles (many 50-100% taller), extra thick cables, more cables, triple vs. single transformers, and the 5G emitters is staggering, obviously, it's NOT about connection speed, lol.
The first one is a 1930-50s residential community - everyone is cutting back due to sky high elctric prices - look at what they put in, massive insulators, massive cables.
The last one is the horizontal 5G emitters (likley to track) placed every 3rd house/business. I have a breakdown on the materials inside, each one is worth a fortune recycled as are the massive cables they are using (likley why they phased out copper pennies (1-cent) as they needed the materials.


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How dangerous cell phone radiation really is?

The simple and short answer is: very dangerous!

But who wants to do without: cell phone, wifi, Bluetooth and co.?

As early as 1932, Schliepake described the symptoms and effects of radiation exposure in his study "Work Results in the Shortwave Field" (page 5 - highlighted text, https://www.diagnose-funk.org/download.php?field=filename&id=848&class=NewsDownload).

A study of radio operators (from 1967) by the Nationale Volksarmee (NVA, GDR) shows the effects and symptoms of microwave radiation. The study itself does not seem to be publicly available, at least I could not find it. References to it can be found here: NVA-Untersuchung von 1967 an Funkern

From 1990 until today, countless studies and publications have been produced that prove the effects of microwave radiation. Nevertheless, these results have been ignored, especially since the 1990s until today, and have been downplayed or misrepresented by counterstatements. Terms like "electrosensitivity" are supposed to cover the whole extent of it.

This post has no claim to completeness and perhaps offers another piece of the puzzle to the contributions of the last years here on the forum. Certainly, there are numerous studies and publications in many countries that sufficiently prove the harmful effects of cell phone/microwave radiation. Russia has been said to be taking countermeasures on this issue for some time already to reduce radiation exposure to humans and nature.

I myself have always wondered why I feel tired and worn down and more irritable as the work day goes on. At work, every room has wifi. Every employee has a cell phone and - as far as I can tell - is permanently online. There are DECT phones and base stations in every room. On the roof of the building there is a large cell phone antenna, since parts of the building complex are operated by the local Telekom. As soon as we are back home, a veil lifts and that dull, foggy, "irritated" feeling is gone. We live in a rural area surrounded by forests.

Through these observations, posts on the forum and a recent exchange with an alternative practitioner, the topic has recently come to the forefront for my wife and I, and thus the reason for this post.


Symptoms and clinical findings due to microwave radiation:
  • Sleep disturbances
  • Sweating (especially at night)
  • Dizziness
  • Headache, migraine
  • Visual disturbances
  • Concentration disorders, word-finding disorders
  • Fatigue (also chronic fatigue syndrome)
  • Learning and behavioral disorders in children and adults
  • Restlessness, nervousness, restless legs
  • Tics
  • Ringing in the ears
  • Cardiac arrhythmia, palpitations,
  • tingling of the skin, sensory disturbances, numbness, redness of the skin
  • Food intolerances
  • Nausea
  • Dry eyes, Dry skin, especially on the face and hands, Excessive thirst,
  • Light sensitive eyes
  • Mood swings, muscle twitching, eyelid twitching
  • Anxiety, overstimulation, hyperactivity,
  • attention deficit disorder
  • Asperger syndrome, autism
  • Triggering of epilepsy
  • Early signs of aging, senescence
  • Weakening of genital function
  • Bacterial contamination of sperm (cell phone in the pocket!)
  • Hypertension in people between 30 and 40 years of age
  • Increased liver and cholesterol levels in young people
  • Allergies in young people
  • Diabetes



The effects of microwave radiation:

  • 200 µWatt/sqm - disturbances at the /damage of the cell membrane (Marinelli 1999)
  • 500 µWatt/sqm - headache and alteration of the nervous system (Navarro 2002)
  • 800 µWatt/sqm - Calcium ion change in the cell (Schwartz 1990)
  • 900 µWatt/sqm - disturbance of the immune system (Bruvere 1998)
  • 1,000 µWatt/sqm - opening of the blood-brain barrier (Salford 1999)
  • 1,600 µWatt/sqm - motor and memory disorders in children (Kolodynski 1996)

  • 169 protein groups are destroyed in a 5-minute cell phone call. The brain needs at least 25 minutes to recover from this and restore new proteins.
  • Tumor cells are formed at 400 nanowatts of cell phone radiation.
  • In the vicinity of cell phone masts an increase of cancer of 35% in the last 10 years (see below, interview with Prof. Dr. Dr. med. Enrico Edinger in an interview at Welt im Wandel 20.09.2016)


Microwatt specifications of commercially available devices:
(Data may vary depending on distance from head/body and technology).
  • 1000-16900 μWatt - WLAN in room/office
  • 20 000 μWatt - DECT telephones
  • 10 million μWatt - cell phone on head during phone call


What can everyone do for themselves to reduce radiation exposure?
  • Replacing wireless telephones with wired telephones
  • Switching off WLAN (at the router and at the computer)
  • Switch off Bluetooth
  • Turn off cell phones when there is no need, especially at night!
  • Don't keep your cell phone close to your body!
  • Replacing wireless keyboards and mice
  • Replace wireless headphones with wired headphones
  • No electrical appliances in the bedroom (if possible, turn off the fuse)


What else can everyone do to counteract the constant exposure to radiation?
  • Long walks in the forest
  • Breathing exercises like EE
  • Singing, dancing, and making music to get back into your own bodily vibration and rhythm of life
  • Take sufficient breaks, especially if you work mainly at the computer
  • Switch to organic foods, chlorophyll-rich plants/vegetables, detoxification through medicinal herbs and mineral clay (e.g., nettle, dandelion, ground elder, ribwort, milk thistle, coriander, organic green tea, zeolite, chlorella, bentonite, etc.)

If you have further studies, publications, statements and experience reports of doctors and alternative practitioners at hand, you are welcome to add them if you wish.

In addition, it is certainly very interesting to receive concrete recommendations for daily protection from microwave radiation via this route. Perhaps someone also has experience with products that really work and e.g. reduce or largely neutralize the irradiation of WLAN from the neighborhood for one's own living space, perhaps even the immediate environment of the apartment / house / workplace.

I have been using the pendant from Q-Link Products for several months. However, it seems to me that it makes me feel better rather than really helping, as the symptoms described above persist at work.

One product I haven't tried yet is supposed to counteract negative vibrations from interference fields like electrosmog by positive impulses (Wave Geräte). ENKI Tesla antennas (Das ganzheitliche Gesundheitsportal - Enki Institut DE) are also supposed to counteract electrosmog. But also here I have so far no empirical values.

The human organism is a wonderful cosmos in itself. We all defy already for decades (more or less) these massive influences. It seems to me that microwave radiation is able to push open the door to this cosmos of our organism, into which all other toxic influences, physical (environmental toxins, microplastics, genetically and pesticide contaminated food, drugs, etc.) and psychological influences flow in.

And yet our organism compensates again and again and holds out against it as best it can. One more reason to appreciate this incredible achievement of our organism and to express our gratitude through a more conscious approach.

Let me add here the thread that @thorbion has started on what the C's have said about electromagnetic radiation: Transcripts about electronic devices, microwaves, WiFi and electronic surveillance.

One quote:

"We warned strongly about electronic devices years ago!" -The C's


The following is a compilation of various studies.





Further information, links, studies and literature in German:

ML Pall: 5G als ernste globale Herausforderung
Das Mikrowellensyndrom - diagnose-funk.org



Handystrahlung und Täuschungsmanöver



Europarat fordert Kurswechsel

Wir müssen uns nicht krankstrahlen lassen - Wissenschaftlich fundierte Hilfe gegen Elektrosmog und Strahlung

Prof. Dr. Karl Hecht: 5G & WLAN sind gesundheitsschädlich

https://kompetenzinitiative.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/KI_FB_2019_04_01_Hecht_web.pdf


Elektrosmog aus niederfrequenten Feldern | Dr. Katrin Albert )






Elektrosmog abschirmen - Schutz für elektrosensible Menschen

www.aerzte-und-mobilfunk.net

www.puls-schlag.org
 
I myself have always wondered why I feel tired and worn down and more irritable as the work day goes on. At work, every room has wifi. Every employee has a cell phone and - as far as I can tell - is permanently online. There are DECT phones and base stations in every room. On the roof of the building there is a large cell phone antenna, since parts of the building complex are operated by the local Telekom. As soon as we are back home, a veil lifts and that dull, foggy, "irritated" feeling is gone. We live in a rural area surrounded by forests.
It's crazy. Imagine working in a big city in a tall building. You are basically cut from the free elections of the ground; you become more positively charged as the day goes by. On every floor, let's say there are 50 routers emitting constant radiation and 200 people carrying their cell phones. Multiply that by 40 as the building has 40 floors! Then, look around you and notice all the other buildings surrounding you! Now, count the number 4G/5G antennas that are running this system—there are strategically placed on top of buildings, below roads, on lamp posts so that the signal remains strong wherever you are.

And then you hear on the television near you that doctors are still trying to find the cure to cancer... :whistle:

I am willing to bet that when power goes out globally people will break free from this hypnotic radiation.
 
Race Horses Carrying Wireless Monitors Dropping Dead Before The Kentucky Derby
Racehorses are among the most finely tuned, exquisitely sensitive creatures on earth. So what happens when you give them all cell phones to wear during a race? They start dropping like… well, horses.

That is exactly what started happening this spring at Churchill Downs in Louisville, home of the world-famous Kentucky Derby. Churchill Downs hosts three “meets” every year during which there are horse races four to five days a week — a spring meet lasting all of May and June; a September meet; and a fall meet throughout November. The spring meet this year at the Downs began on April 29 and was to continue until July 3. And beginning on April 29, and in every race on every day thereafter, every horse was fitted with a device they had never worn before. It is a wireless device, shaped like an iPhone, that fits into the cloth underneath the saddle on the horse’s back.

Article by Arthur Firstenberg

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And on April 29, 2023, horses racing at Churchill Downs began to die during races or suffer such severe injuries during races that they were euthanized. So many horses have died this spring that on June 2 it was announced that the spring meet at the Downs would be suspended as of June 10. Officials at Churchill Downs are panicked because horses racing there have died in much larger numbers this spring than ever before.

The horse named Parents Pride simply collapsed and died for no apparent reason during a race on April 29. No drugs were found in her system, and no poisons. She was running normally before the race. No abnormalities were found in her heart, brain or lungs.

Code of Kings “flipped” and broke his neck in the paddock just prior to a race and was euthanized, also on April 29. The paddock, also called the parade ring, is where horses are paraded before a race so the racegoers can get a good look at them. (...)

We have known for decades that horses’ lives are shattered by radio waves. Hearings were held in Christchurch, New Zealand, and racehorse trainer Penny Hargreaves spoke out in an interview published in 1998. An FM radio tower in Ouruhia had had such devastating effects on her 90 horses that she was forced to relocate them to a different part of Canterbury. All her horses were affected, some more than others, and two died.
 
I was looking for some info about dirty electricity and circuit breaker in the net. And I found this quora thread.

This inspired me to publish this post.

I was looking for solution how to get rid of dirty electricity from my home. And my conclusion is: the cheapest way is to turn off the circuit breaker. I have 3 circuit breakers in my flat. One is for lamps on ceiling, the second is for electric sockets in bathroom and the third is for electric sockets in room and kitchen.

At night I need electricity for refrigerator. I turn off the first and the third circuit breakers. I connected fridge to bathroom electricity socket. Quality of sleep and my mood improved.

I can't afford to buy 20 dirty electricity filters. I tried use EMI filters from old loundry machine or refrigerator, but they are very insufficient. They have only 1uF cap. The professional filters have 30 uF cap.

I heard that there are people who installed filters in their home and have no effect on their health. Maybe they are beamed by microwaves, and if the electric activity is registered in their home (dirty electricity) they are beamed more than without electric activity.

Why more people are sensitive to dirty electricity. Maybe becouse more microwaves are around us in our enviroment comparing to the past. And if we combine dirty electricity and microwaves the effect can be health damaging.

Al in all, creating safe space for sleep is possible, even if you don't have a lot of dineros.

PS. I noticed that some primitive LED light bulbs gives small light when you connect them to one electric wire. This may be a sign that dirty electricity is in your home. Also small AM radio can be a cheap monitor that tells you how much dirty electricity is in your home and does devices in your home are primary source of DE.
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Get Better Sleep with the EMF Sleep Switch!​

www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNnlXOXoaWI

How do I get rid of dirty electricity in my house?

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What are the effects of dirty electricity?
In some case healt effect is debilitant, tinntinus, chronic fatiue, digestion problem, mental problem, increased blood pressure, neurological problem, mental problem, suicidal, hearing problem, sleep problem, over active bladder.
And this is how I tracked down the source of that dirty électricity, very not easy.
It took me 5 years to discover the sources of this poison that enters my house, because I knew nothing of this filth, 12 years already that the first symptoms appeared. In 2017 an engineer lent me a Green Wave dirty electricity detector and then another Stetzeriser which I used on each phase 120 volts, then I used a frequency meter placed between the phases and I filmed the whole thing for a few days, to discover that the frequency of 60Hz, displayed when the dirty electricity was low, about 200mv, passed in the kilohertz (Khz) at the same time that the dirty electricity increased considerably, that is to say that it passed from about 200mv to 1500mv, This phenomenon was reproduced daily at predetermined times. I could not afford to hire a professional. I notified my provider that I had debilitating symptoms since 2010, and that I suspected their electrical service, that my ears were ringing, and multiple other symptoms appeared afterwards, the provider's maintenance crews came several times, saying that they had checked everything and had done everything, they did not put the necessary instruments to detect what I was detecting.
Now I can corroborate the source that I can follow with a radio tuned in the AM range, I can also measure the injection of different frequency sequences, which correspond to the intensity of my symptoms.
I had also detected currents circulating in my soil, the maintenance technician of the electricity supplier confirmed to have measured at the time of their come between 1 and 1.5 v between neutral and ground, they also admitted that it was a parasitic tension and that they could not improve it by explaining that usually, it finds that in the farms and that it does not move for less than 5 Volts neutral/ground
It is during their visit that the technician measured in my presence my grounding which had 50 ohms, the technician tells me that their grounding is limited to 100 ohms, mentioning that it is in the standards.
The technician mentioned that they suspect that my grounding offers less resistance than theirs, the stray currents in the ground reach more easily my electrical installation.
I was able to confirm this by lowering the resistance of my grounding to 15ohms, the number of miliamperes passing through my grounding conductor tripled.
After checking the grounding of the transformer that I use had 260 ohms, to then understand that there was no grounding in my area below 100 ohms.
I discussed this with an expert from the supplier, he explained to me that for the norm they take the average, well for those who don't understand I'll give you an analogy,
It's like if you have your feet in the ice and your head in the fire and they take the average of your body temperature and say that it's impossible that you have a brain burn.
I have to shorten the story because it is too long but I want to share that the method I used is laborious and expensive and that in some cases like mine the use of an AM radio is a very good tool to track the source when it comes from the neighborhood and or a defective transformer.
Many people suffer and will suffer for a long time because our electricity providers do not want to recognize the problem, and continue to deliver electricity that is contaminated in my case by the neighborhood with which we are almost all connected in parallel.
When this dirty electricity is too present I have to leave to regenerate and I sleep daily in a Faraday cage, in winter I unplug and cut the neutral until a better solution.
Hoping that this can help the understanding.
 
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I was looking for some info about dirty electricity and circuit breaker in the net. And I found this quora thread.

This inspired me to publish this post.

I was looking for solution how to get rid of dirty electricity from my home. And my conclusion is: the cheapest way is to turn off the circuit breaker. I have 3 circuit breakers in my flat. One is for lamps on ceiling, the second is for electric sockets in bathroom and the third is for electric sockets in room and kitchen.

At night I need electricity for refrigerator. I turn off the first and the third circuit breakers. I connected fridge to bathroom electricity socket. Quality of sleep and my mood improved.

I can't afford to buy 20 dirty electricity filters. I tried use EMI filters from old loundry machine or refrigerator, but they are very insufficient. They have only 1uF cap. The professional filters have 30 uF cap.

I heard that there are people who installed filters in their home and have no effect on their health. Maybe they are beamed by microwaves, and if the electric activity is registered in their home (dirty electricity) they are beamed more than without electric activity.

Why more people are sensitive to dirty electricity. Maybe becouse more microwaves are around us in our enviroment comparing to the past. And if we combine dirty electricity and microwaves the effect can be health damaging.

Al in all, creating safe space for sleep is possible, even if you don't have a lot of dineros.

PS. I noticed that some primitive LED light bulbs gives small light when you connect them to one electric wire. This may be a sign that dirty electricity is in your home. Also small AM radio can be a cheap monitor that tells you how much dirty electricity is in your home and does devices in your home are primary source of DE.
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Get Better Sleep with the EMF Sleep Switch!​

www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNnlXOXoaWI

last time i checked you could get the parts to make your own filter(check Scott's video) and the D.E meter on Ali for cheap, i only needed 2-3 filters on an urban area though the house is very small but it cut D.E from thousands at peak periods to <30-50mv
 
I recently discovered that there is a dirty electricity in all my heating pipes and gas pipe. I didn't noticed DE in water pipe with my AM radio. I live in 11 condignations block from 1970s communist time.

When I connect gas oven to electric circuit, DE spreads through ground wire to all rooms in my flat, even if I turn off the circuit braker.

There are some people who can't live in specific buildings. The respiration problem, typically to sick bulding syndrome, can be also coused by infrasounds and electromagnetic microwaves.

What Is Sick Building Syndrome?
www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmho_iKsfQo

The EPA says it’s a real thing, so maybe it’s time to learn how ventilation and contaminants can make you sick when you stay indoors.
 
im motivated to buy a emf device to measure the fields -anyone recommend a good device at a reasonable price ?





 
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Something i did not "link" in my mind before i read this post on twitter, but when thinking twice about, this sounds ... logic.

Here's the short excerpt of a longer english reportage or show :

Here's the translation of the tweet txt to english :
He did the test: the inside of an electric car emits as many waves as a smartphone or a microwave at a distance of 50 cm.

When we know that mobile phone waves can cause

migraine, memory loss, fatigue, depression, even cancer and the early onset of Alzheimer's disease, it's easy to see just how much of a health hazard electric cars can be. It's a rolling microwave.

So, one more negative aspect for the electricar cars, one of the biggest from my point of view. I have to admit that, as i installed some solar panels, having a small electric car in the garage could be useful +/- 7 to 9 months per year, or having a small electric motorcycle or moped could be useful, and this information made me drop the idea of the car at least. I wonder now what does emit the electric bikes or the numberous electric scooter or trotinette we now see ? probably less exposure i assume.
 

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