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I haven't really shared this health problem of mines with anyone except my doctors, but I think you guys might have good advice to help me out. Well, it has to do with my eyes, I have this weird static or snow vision here is a link to this symptom : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visual_snow. This symptom occurred about a year ago. I went to many doctors like optometrist and neurologists, have gotten my eyes checked and changed my glasses many times but these actions provided me with no help and many of the doctors look at me and say such a thing doesn't exist like I'm a psycho! :cry: I also I have gotten many tests done like MRI, EMG, blood tests, and eye scans, but all came clean or good :mad:. I have done research on the topic but had minimal input, seems like everyone else with is stuck where I am, don't know what to do. Some of the other symptoms that go with it are halos around lights, cloud vision, blurriness, a little double vision, but its seems that my problems at times gets better and worser. I'm looking into herbs that can help me and one of them is Saffron which I am ordering, hopefully this helps. Any help or input will be greatly appreciated!
 
I had something similar, freaked me out. Eyes were fine, doctor suggested ophtalmic migraine as a possible cause. Apparently one can have these eye symptoms without the actual headache. This made sense at the time, because I did have a few migraines prior to that.

I am glad you had many tests and they came out clean, that rules out some of the more ominous things like MS. May I suggest chiropractic or osteopathic adjustments, they seem to have worked for me.

good health to you,
 
Hi Infiniteness,
You may also consider homeopathy as a possible treatment option. Homeopathic medicines are made from herbs/minerals/animal sources and are diluted to a a very high degree where side effects are eliminated or at least minimized. A homeopathic doctor may be able to help you with your condition. Just for your reference you may want to read about the homeopathic use of the herb jaborandi which is one of the remedies indicated for snow vision symptoms. (I consulted JT Kent's homeopathic materia medica for this). If you decide to try out the homeopathic option, consulting a homeopath (classical) is the best way as the doctor will take into account all your symptoms (and not just one particular symptom) and prescribe a medication.
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Thank you for your advice both, Hildegarda and obyvatel, I will look into them more both.

I am glad Hildegarda that your problem got resolved, and I will surly try to get some chiropractic or osteopathic adjustments. I am also working towards eating healthier and taking more vitamins and mineral supplements to boost my health.

Obyvatel I am already looking into herbal medicine one of the herbs that I am looking into is Saffron :http://www.sott.net/articles/show/204515-Saffron-Could-Save-Your-Eyesight, but I will also look into jaborandi surly. Its pretty tough finding some good source of Saffaron.
 
Here is a Saffron supplement that I am looking at,its hard to find the correct supplements because theirs so many bad ones out there.
http://www.honeycombs.com/Searchenginefriendlycatalog/saffron-american-herb-liquid-alcohol-free-extract.htm
 
Infiniteness said:
Obyvatel I am already looking into herbal medicine one of the herbs that I am looking into is Saffron :http://www.sott.net/articles/show/204515-Saffron-Could-Save-Your-Eyesight, but I will also look into jaborandi surly. Its pretty tough finding some good source of Saffaron.
Just for clarification, I was referring to a homeopathic use of the herb which is very different from taking herbal supplements. There is a thread on homeopathy in this forum here which has an explanation of homeopathic principles which may be helpful in case you are not familiar with homeopathy.
Whichever modality of treatment you choose to follow, I wish you all the best and hope your problem gets solved in the most gentle way possible.
 
obyvatel said:
Infiniteness said:
Obyvatel I am already looking into herbal medicine one of the herbs that I am looking into is Saffron :http://www.sott.net/articles/show/204515-Saffron-Could-Save-Your-Eyesight, but I will also look into jaborandi surly. Its pretty tough finding some good source of Saffaron.
Just for clarification, I was referring to a homeopathic use of the herb which is very different from taking herbal supplements. There is a thread on homeopathy in this forum here which has an explanation of homeopathic principles which may be helpful in case you are not familiar with homeopathy.
Whichever modality of treatment you choose to follow, I wish you all the best and hope your problem gets solved in the most gentle way possible.

Seems like I had a misunderstanding of Homopathic medicine, will do more research into it, and thank you.
 
Just a word of caution about jaborandi, it is derived from Pilocarpus jaborandi. The drug Pilocarpine is derived from this plant and imported mainly from Brazil. The alkaloid Pilocarpine is a very powerful parasympathomimetic – meaning it mimics the parasympathetic nervous system (the opposite of fight or flight). Specifically, it mimics acetylcholine, which is responsible for causing the salivary glands to salivate, the lacrimal glands to make tears, and constricts the pupil, among other things. http://www.rain-tree.com/jaborand.htm

As an eye care professional, I am quite interested in the visual snow phenomenon, and while I’ve had many patients describe visual prodromal symptoms before a migraine (flashes of light, floaters, tunnel vision), I have never had a patient describe the static of visual snow. This is something new and not even touched upon during my education 20 years ago, or even in continuing education courses I’ve attended.

So far, my research has produced no concrete solution to visual snow. Our nervous system is very complex, and I would do a good amount of research before considering the use of jaborandi and definitely under the supervision of a homeopathic doctor.

The following article does a good job of summarizing visual snow and what is known about it, but it also concludes more research is needed.
http://www.eyeonvision.org/visual-snow.html (This article also has a good picture depicting visual snow, but it didn't copy to the quote below)

Visual snow (VS) is the name first given to a vision altering condition now referred to as Persistent Migraine Aura (PMA). The common factor that all sufferers share is the persisting visual symptom of seeing snow or television-like static across their visual field. The snow and static tends to be worse in the dark, but can be seen in all lighting conditions.

VS or PMA should not be confused with normal entopic phenomena or vitreous floaters. While these two conditions also cause you to see spots and floating objects, this is not the same as VS or PMA.

There is no known cause for VS/PMA. Through documented case studies illegal and legal drug usage can sometimes lead to VS/PMA, but little is known on the specific causes. A few connections between HPPD, auto-immune disease, and lyme disease have been found. However, far more cases of Persistent Migraine Aura have no connection at all to another condition.

Although the vision is affected, very few people have had irregular eye test results. Most come back within normal range, leading doctors to believe that patients may be making their symptoms up. CT scans and MRIs also tend to come back normal, again stumping doctors. It is more likely to be an undetectable chemical imbalance in the brain.

The term Persistent Migraine Aura is more fitting for the condition as there are numerous symptoms that patients experience above and beyond visual snow. Many people also see after images, vitreous floaters, entopic phenomenon, glare, halos, starbursts, trails, paliponisia, double vision, odd colors and shapes. Many sufferers also have non-visual symptoms such as fatigue, tinnitus or depersonalization and derealisation.

There currently is no established treatment for visual snow or PMA. Many patients have tried migraine medication with little to no success. Other have tried herbs, cleansing, acupuncture, and chiropractors, again with little to no success.

It is important for you to realize that this is a 24/7 condition for these sufferers. The symptoms do not ever go away. Even with their eyes closed they see the static, afterimages and other disturbing visual images. With the help of a handful of caring doctors, the Eye on Vision Foundation strives to raise funds for future research into finding a treatment.



On a side note, as many here on the forum have talked about ringing in the ears, or even electronic noises inside the head (I have this myself), I wonder if visual snow is a similar phenomenon and has anything to do with the approaching wave or perhaps EMF smog? Some sort of overstimulation of the nervous system? (just thinking out-loud here, FWIW).

Infiniteness, are you practicing EE breathing and eliminating gluten, sugar and dairy from your diet? I would be inclined to detox the body and see if symptoms abate before adding any kind of drugs, herbal or otherwise, to the mix. Chiropractic adjustments may help as well, but even that is not always a precise science. I wish you the best, and if I stumble upon anything that may be helpful, I'll be sure to add it to a post.
 
Hi Infiniteness. Dropping gluten, dairy and sugar will be a great start as others have mentioned. And make sure you don't replace 'sugarfree' with anything containing Aspartame. From what I understand this chemical can have some pretty harsh effects on the eyes, not to mention other areas.

Have you been/are partaking of this? If so, eliminate it first fer certain. ;)
 
LissyLou said:
On a side note, as many here on the forum have talked about ringing in the ears, or even electronic noises inside the head (I have this myself), I wonder if visual snow is a similar phenomenon and has anything to do with the approaching wave or perhaps EMF smog? Some sort of overstimulation of the nervous system? (just thinking out-loud here, FWIW).

Interesting possibility, I think. By the way, LissyLou, as someone who has worn glasses/contacts since my early teens, I find myself wishing you lived close by - you'd have a new patient. =)
 
LissyLou said:
Just a word of caution about jaborandi, it is derived from Pilocarpus jaborandi. The drug Pilocarpine is derived from this plant and imported mainly from Brazil. The alkaloid Pilocarpine is a very powerful parasympathomimetic – meaning it mimics the parasympathetic nervous system (the opposite of fight or flight). Specifically, it mimics acetylcholine, which is responsible for causing the salivary glands to salivate, the lacrimal glands to make tears, and constricts the pupil, among other things. http://www.rain-tree.com/jaborand.htm

As an eye care professional, I am quite interested in the visual snow phenomenon, and while I’ve had many patients describe visual prodromal symptoms before a migraine (flashes of light, floaters, tunnel vision), I have never had a patient describe the static of visual snow. This is something new and not even touched upon during my education 20 years ago, or even in continuing education courses I’ve attended.

So far, my research has produced no concrete solution to visual snow. Our nervous system is very complex, and I would do a good amount of research before considering the use of jaborandi and definitely under the supervision of a homeopathic doctor.

The following article does a good job of summarizing visual snow and what is known about it, but it also concludes more research is needed.
http://www.eyeonvision.org/visual-snow.html (This article also has a good picture depicting visual snow, but it didn't copy to the quote below)

Visual snow (VS) is the name first given to a vision altering condition now referred to as Persistent Migraine Aura (PMA). The common factor that all sufferers share is the persisting visual symptom of seeing snow or television-like static across their visual field. The snow and static tends to be worse in the dark, but can be seen in all lighting conditions.

VS or PMA should not be confused with normal entopic phenomena or vitreous floaters. While these two conditions also cause you to see spots and floating objects, this is not the same as VS or PMA.

There is no known cause for VS/PMA. Through documented case studies illegal and legal drug usage can sometimes lead to VS/PMA, but little is known on the specific causes. A few connections between HPPD, auto-immune disease, and lyme disease have been found. However, far more cases of Persistent Migraine Aura have no connection at all to another condition.

Although the vision is affected, very few people have had irregular eye test results. Most come back within normal range, leading doctors to believe that patients may be making their symptoms up. CT scans and MRIs also tend to come back normal, again stumping doctors. It is more likely to be an undetectable chemical imbalance in the brain.

The term Persistent Migraine Aura is more fitting for the condition as there are numerous symptoms that patients experience above and beyond visual snow. Many people also see after images, vitreous floaters, entopic phenomenon, glare, halos, starbursts, trails, paliponisia, double vision, odd colors and shapes. Many sufferers also have non-visual symptoms such as fatigue, tinnitus or depersonalization and derealisation.

There currently is no established treatment for visual snow or PMA. Many patients have tried migraine medication with little to no success. Other have tried herbs, cleansing, acupuncture, and chiropractors, again with little to no success.

It is important for you to realize that this is a 24/7 condition for these sufferers. The symptoms do not ever go away. Even with their eyes closed they see the static, afterimages and other disturbing visual images. With the help of a handful of caring doctors, the Eye on Vision Foundation strives to raise funds for future research into finding a treatment.



On a side note, as many here on the forum have talked about ringing in the ears, or even electronic noises inside the head (I have this myself), I wonder if visual snow is a similar phenomenon and has anything to do with the approaching wave or perhaps EMF smog? Some sort of overstimulation of the nervous system? (just thinking out-loud here, FWIW).

Infiniteness, are you practicing EE breathing and eliminating gluten, sugar and dairy from your diet? I would be inclined to detox the body and see if symptoms abate before adding any kind of drugs, herbal or otherwise, to the mix. Chiropractic adjustments may help as well, but even that is not always a precise science. I wish you the best, and if I stumble upon anything that may be helpful, I'll be sure to add it to a post.



Thanks for the input LissyLou and cholas , I am going to start the EE program tomorrow and am still working on my diet. Sometimes I just get depressed over the issue because I think my problem will get so worse, that I might go blind or something, I don't know. :cry: I try to be optimistic has I can be and just hope for the best.
 
LissyLou said:
Just a word of caution about jaborandi, it is derived from Pilocarpus jaborandi. The drug Pilocarpine is derived from this plant and imported mainly from Brazil. The alkaloid Pilocarpine is a very powerful parasympathomimetic – meaning it mimics the parasympathetic nervous system (the opposite of fight or flight). Specifically, it mimics acetylcholine, which is responsible for causing the salivary glands to salivate, the lacrimal glands to make tears, and constricts the pupil, among other things.
Yes, the herb jaborandi itself is harmful to humans. Homeopathy works under the principle "like cures like" and so uses many substances which by themselves are harmful to humans but on being diluted to a high degree, can be used to treat similar afflictions as those which would be caused by the original substance itself. For example, a typical homeopathic dilution used is 30C - which means the original substance has been diluted 10 to the power of -60 (10-60). Jaborandi is rather uncommon, but here are a couple of common homeopathic medications and their sources and uses:

Gelsemium - Obtained from Gelsemium Sempervirens. The plant is extremely poisonous and if ingested leads to muscular paralysis. Its effects are similar to that of curare. Yet when used homeopathically, it is used to treat a wide variety of afflictions including those characterized by gradual muscular paralysis. In fact gelsemium was one of the main homeopathic remedies used in the flu epidemic of 1918. Here is a sott article on this.

Aconitum Napellus - Obtained from a plant commonly known as monkshood. In Sanskrit, the plant was called by the names Ativisha and Visha - which translated to english means "poison". It was also called wolfsbane having been used as poison bait for wolves. It is said that in the middle ages, women were known to use the plant's extracts to poison their unfaithful husbands. Homeopathically, it is used to treat a wide variety of health problems which are characterized by sudden onset, shock, severe anxiety and fear of death. In fact it is one of the medicines used by homeopaths in disaster areas for PTSD (post traumatic stress disorder). The university of Maryland medical center page on PTSD mentions this homeopathic remedy.
There are many examples like this in homeopathy.

Sorry for being :offtopic: but hope it was interesting!
 
anart said:
LissyLou said:
On a side note, as many here on the forum have talked about ringing in the ears, or even electronic noises inside the head (I have this myself), I wonder if visual snow is a similar phenomenon and has anything to do with the approaching wave or perhaps EMF smog? Some sort of overstimulation of the nervous system? (just thinking out-loud here, FWIW).

Interesting possibility, I think. By the way, LissyLou, as someone who has worn glasses/contacts since my early teens, I find myself wishing you lived close by - you'd have a new patient. =)

I would be more than happy to have you as a patient! I'm also a die-hard contact lens wearer. I am just wondering how much mercury I absorbed using thimerosol preserved contact solution in the 1980's. The only preservative free contact solution that I know of is "Clear Care" or "Oxy-sept". Those are the hydrogen peroxide systems. And the fabulous papain enzyme tablets we used to use (pre-disposable contacts), worked so well, they removed them from the market! :(

If you have your contact rx....I may have trials on hand. :D
 
LissyLou said:
I would be more than happy to have you as a patient! I'm also a die-hard contact lens wearer. I am just wondering how much mercury I absorbed using thimerosol preserved contact solution in the 1980's. The only preservative free contact solution that I know of is "Clear Care" or "Oxy-sept". Those are the hydrogen peroxide systems. And the fabulous papain enzyme tablets we used to use (pre-disposable contacts), worked so well, they removed them from the market! :(

If you have your contact rx....I may have trials on hand. :D

I might just take you up on that! I'm due for an exam within the next month, so I'll have a new rx then. :)
 
Anart, just pm me your rx when you get it, and I'd be happy to send you some contacts. :)
 
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