Feeling a little bit off

[Marina9]

Hello everyone!!
It is my first time postin in the forum, I wasn't really sure about it but this past days i've been feeling off and wanted to talk to you guys. I will
start telling you about what has been going on and how that make me feel.

I joined the editing sott group in spanish about 7 months ago, started the paleo and was feeling great, lots of good things where going around in my life at that time, but i had a relapse in the diet, started work and school and haven't had time to edit, or do anything related about the Sott group.

The thing that happened to me with the diet is that i've always been self-conscious about my weight and wanted to be more and more skinny, and with the paleo i wasn't losing weight (but feeling great), any how my mind was telling me i had to loose weight and went to a nutritionist which gave me a diet but in the diet i had some gluten things to eat and lactose, that ended up very bad I had to go to the hospital cause of the chronic pain i was having in my intestine. I am back on the paleo now, the little voice telling me that i have to be more skinny, well, i think is going away little by little, i never experienced any type of problems with the paleo regime, but i was once again bombarded by society and let myself fall down again.

This past two days i feel like my enrergy has been drained by a lot of people sorrounding me, it's hard to make people notice that you eat or do certain things for mental health, and they seem to always mock about this kind of stuff. I dont know how to handle this situations and that's why im feeling off.
It's also hard realizing that people who tell to be your friends are no longer in the same frequence as you are and well, its hard to try and please them but not pleasing myself.
I feel bad about not editing or being away from the group for so long, since i realize that things where changing for good when i was more involved and working in myself and doing things for the right reasons.

Writing all of this things going around helps me to get rid of any bad ideas in my mind, thanks everyone for reading and if someone has something i could read, do or any kind of advice i will really appreciate you guys.

Nice day everyone! :) :)

 

[Marina9]

It's like a constant thing, things going well and then sabotaging myslef and feeling down :(

 

[nicklebleu]

Hi marinarm2890,

What you describe is a common problem, and there is only one solution. Just start again, clean up your diet, start editing again. Basically it means, when you stumble, get up again and keep walking. Don't beat yourself up, it's ok to stumble, the important thing is not to get failure to get the better of you, just start out again, take the first step ...

As to paleo diet - depending on your body type and metabolism, you might not loose much weight, if you still ear something that doesn't agree with your body. You may have to move to a more ketogenic diet. And even when you are on a keto diet, some people find it hard to loose weight. There might be a few problems why, the most common one being the ingestion of too much protein (0.8 - 1g per kilo of lean body weight is appropriate for most, if you don't work out much or a doing heavy labour, in which case it is closer to 2g/kg).

The other thing is that we usually are too hung up about weight. It's not really the most important endpoint. Health and wellbeing is. While a lot of people do loose weight, and many should loose weight, on a keto diet, some have - for different and sometimes not really obvious reasons - trouble shedding the pounds.

So what I would suggest in summary is - get familiar with the keto diet here: It's a long thread but worth reading, so you will know how you do things and why.

Any questions feel free to post in that thread.

Hope this helps.

 

[Keyhole]

The thing that happened to me with the diet is that i've always been self-conscious about my weight and wanted to be more and more skinny, and with the paleo i wasn't losing weight (but feeling great), any how my mind was telling me i had to loose weight and went to a nutritionist which gave me a diet but in the diet i had some gluten things to eat and lactose, that ended up very bad I had to go to the hospital cause of the chronic pain i was having in my intestine. I am back on the paleo now, the little voice telling me that i have to be more skinny, well, i think is going away little by little, i never experienced any type of problems with the paleo regime, but i was once again bombarded by society and let myself fall down again.

Can I ask, what is your current diet consist of? How many carbohydrates do you eat per day?

It might be best if you try not to let yourself become fixated on your weight marinarm2890. A person's weight doesn't necessarily reflect how healthy they are. What I mean by this is that if someone is "overweight" or "underweight", it may just be the body size that they are naturally designed to be :) In my personal experience, I have always been very skinny... even on the Paleo diet I found it difficult to put on weight until I went into ketosis. I understand the difficulties you are faced with, especially with the societal conditioning we are subjected to daily. The truth is that what we are told is "ideal body" is so uncommon that it is are almost impossible for any of us to achieve, therefore this image is thrust upon us and it really helps break us down emotionally. I am sorry to hear of your intestinal problems, did they end up telling you what the problem actually was? If you are not already aware of it, the Ketogenic diet is a great way to heal your body and also levels out your weight to what it is meant to be over time

Heres a thread on it : The Ketogenic Diet

You might also want to check out these books: Primal Body, Primal Mind - Nora Gedgaudas, Keto-Adapted - Maria Emmerich, The Art and Science of Low Carbohydrate Living - Jeff Volek and Stephen Phinney

This past two days i feel like my enrergy has been drained by a lot of people sorrounding me, it's hard to make people notice that you eat or do certain things for mental health, and they seem to always mock about this kind of stuff. I dont know how to handle this situations and that's why im feeling off.

I also understand how you are feeling with this. Sometime's I find the easiest way to handle to food situation is to actually just tell people you have allergies! You can say "I'm allergic to gluten, casein and sugar". That way they don't bother you so much ;)

If its family and friends, sometimes its just best to be honest... sometime they might actually show an interest and it gives you the opportunity to share your knowledge with them if they are asking. If they mock you, I think it is best just not to speak about it, because it only puts you in a difficult situation that could potentially be dodged. That way you can help preserve your energy

It's also hard realizing that people who tell to be your friends are no longer in the same frequence as you are and well, its hard to try and please them but not pleasing myself.
I feel bad about not editing or being away from the group for so long, since i realize that things where changing for good when i was more involved and working in myself and doing things for the right reasons.

It is difficult realizing that you and your friends may no longer have the same interests... but this doesn't necessarily mean that you cannot still be friends. Sometimes we have to bite our tongue in conversation and learn accept that others are not interested in what we have to say, to respect who they are and where they are on the learning cycle. This is something that is very helpful to practice marinarm2890. It is part of becoming STO. Here is a thread on it : External Consideration

Try not to beat yourself up about not being as involved as you could. The fact is, you are here NOW, and you have a choice. You can choose to participate and become more involved, or you can choose otherwise. It is up to you :D

 

[Alada]

What you describe is a common problem, and there is only one solution. Just start again, clean up your diet, start editing again. Basically it means, when you stumble, get up again and keep walking. Don't beat yourself up, it's ok to stumble, the important thing is not to get failure to get the better of you, just start out again, take the first step ...

I agree, we all have our stumbles along the way, and as nicklebleu said, the answer is to just start again. Next time we can do better. And so it goes little by little. So yes, don't beat yourself up, it's okay.

It does help a lot when we manage to get back in gear, sometimes though we have to push through that initial bit of resistance to starting whatever it is we could be doing, working on SOTT, netorking on the forum or whatever. You must have noticed by now that the times when you don't feel like you have much energy but go ahead and work on sott, by the time you finish the energy level is very different, no? Same thing applies to networking on the forum, energy levels improve, mental clarity improves, everything 'flows' that bit better.

So don't be too hard on yourself, you've been given some good feedback on diet and the body image question hopefully that will help. If we do our best not to let negative thought loops run and drain energy, and push a little bit to get back on track when we need to, well then we are doing a great deal to help ourselves when feeling off. Little by little work our way back to where we wish to be.

It doesn't take long to post just a couple of articles a day on sott, maybe that would be good start?

 

[Marina9]

Hi marinarm2890,

What you describe is a common problem, and there is only one solution. Just start again, clean up your diet, start editing again. Basically it means, when you stumble, get up again and keep walking. Don't beat yourself up, it's ok to stumble, the important thing is not to get failure to get the better of you, just start out again, take the first step ...

As to paleo diet - depending on your body type and metabolism, you might not loose much weight, if you still ear something that doesn't agree with your body. You may have to move to a more ketogenic diet. And even when you are on a keto diet, some people find it hard to loose weight. There might be a few problems why, the most common one being the ingestion of too much protein (0.8 - 1g per kilo of lean body weight is appropriate for most, if you don't work out much or a doing heavy labour, in which case it is closer to 2g/kg).

The other thing is that we usually are too hung up about weight. It's not really the most important endpoint. Health and wellbeing is. While a lot of people do loose weight, and many should loose weight, on a keto diet, some have - for different and sometimes not really obvious reasons - trouble shedding the pounds.

So what I would suggest in summary is - get familiar with the keto diet here: It's a long thread but worth reading, so you will know how you do things and why.

Any questions feel free to post in that thread.

Hope this helps.

Thank you very much for your feedback, yes i agree, the most important part is to get back on track and not permitting external things pull me down back again. It was like I was failin everything i had accomplished with the diet (healthwise), and with being involved with the SOTT Forum and trying to get back to a lot of things that now i realize are not even worth it.

 

[riclapaz]

Hello marinarm2890, have given very good advice, in life there are always setbacks, the important thing is to get up, and try as many times as necessary to achieve their goal, encouragement, you can

It's like a constant thing, things going well and then sabotaging myslef and feeling down :(

Practice regularly EE? even if it does not, it is an excellent program, helps in difficult times, processes emotions, clearer thinking, helps with stress, etc.

Greetings compatriot

 

[Marina9]

What you describe is a common problem, and there is only one solution. Just start again, clean up your diet, start editing again. Basically it means, when you stumble, get up again and keep walking. Don't beat yourself up, it's ok to stumble, the important thing is not to get failure to get the better of you, just start out again, take the first step ...

I agree, we all have our stumbles along the way, and as nicklebeu said, the answer is to just start again. Next time we can do better. And so it goes little by little. So yes, don't beat yourself up, it's okay.

It does help a lot when we manage to get back in gear, sometimes though we have to push through that initial bit of resistance to starting whatever it is we could be doing, working on SOTT, netorking on the forum or whatever. You must have noticed by now that the times when you don't feel like you have much energy but go ahead and work on sott, by the time you finish the energy level is very different, no? Same thing applies to networking on the forum, energy levels improve, mental clarity improves, everything 'flows' that bit better.

I really agree on that, getting back in track is the most important thing, and now that i've experienced all this health problems in the last two months and realized that trying to please everyone but me is not working, now im sure that before when i was more involved, doing de EE program and having a clean diet was way much better than how i feel now. So yes, i will definetly take everyone's advice, i was scared to post how i was feeling, but it feels so much better now to have the support of many people! :)

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[Marina9]

Hello marinarm2890, have given very good advice, in life there are always setbacks, the important thing is to get up, and try as many times as necessary to achieve their goal, encouragement, you can

It's like a constant thing, things going well and then sabotaging myslef and feeling down :(

Practice regularly EE? even if it does not, it is an excellent program, helps in difficult times, processes emotions, clearer thinking, helps with stress, etc.

Since I started with the new work and all this bad changes i made, i left practicing the EE program, but im now back in track with it and i really know that it helps me deal with anxiety and stress i have, im also practicing yoga with my family at home, we find it relaxing also. Today i was feeling very bummed and wanted to sleep all day, but having all this feedback and help has really cheered me up, im looking forward to star editing again and concentrating in good things instead of heading back to my old bad habits :)

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[Εἰρήνη]

marinarm2890,
I know exactly how you feel. I also at some point could not continue on with the diet and I felt very guilty about it. And because of the guilt I've slept some days away.
I agree that the best way to go back on track is to start somewhere.
EE will help you feel better about yourself.

I just want to warn you: do not feel guilty about this situation, because your problems might get worsened because of the guilt. Guilt is very destructive, it is like a vortex that can suck you in if you don't stop yourself from feeling guilty.
Just say to yourself that it is OK, it happens to everyone, we all stumble. And every day little by little do the work and it will get you back on track.

 

[Marina9]

marinarm2890,
I know exactly how you feel. I also at some point could not continue on with the diet and I felt very guilty about it. And because of the guilt I've slept some days away.
I agree that the best way to go back on track is to start somewhere.
EE will help you feel better about yourself.

I just want to warn you: do not feel guilty about this situation, because your problems might get worsened because of the guilt. Guilt is very destructive, it is like a vortex that can suck you in if you don't stop yourself from feeling guilty.
Just say to yourself that it is OK, it happens to everyone, we all stumble. And every day little by little do the work and it will get you back on track.

Thank you very much Εἰρήvη, feeling guilty or ashamed of what other people may say has been one of my major issues in life, it's good to know people like you guys are here to cheer you up in any circumstance :) I really really appreciate all your posts everyone!

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[Pinkorchid]

Hi Marinarm,

Seems you already have a lot of great advice and working where you feel good or doing what feels good also helps you self-esteem greatly and then while you wait for the program to really start to show signs , well you will feel good about what you are doing.

This past two days i feel like my energy has been drained by a lot of people sorrounding me,

Another aspect that I also consider is that if you are constantly battling energetically , then I believe the body has it's own sort of defense mechanism.

So as a result I believe that we gain weight as a sort of barrier to those energy drains , sort of like a wall of extra thickness or something.

Whilst it is proper to assist others be also aware that they can drain you either on purpose of subconsciously through old behavioral patterns.

There is an abundant source of energy in the Universe , most people just steal it from each other , but taking time out when you are feeling low , to meditate and pull in the energy you need you stop the cycle and are really performing something really wonderful for service to others.

Hope this assisted you in some way , my intention is to heal.

Pinkorchid

 

[Flow]

The thing that happened to me with the diet is that i've always been self-conscious about my weight and wanted to be more and more skinny, and with the paleo i wasn't losing weight (but feeling great), any how my mind was telling me i had to loose weight and went to a nutritionist which gave me a diet but in the diet i had some gluten things to eat and lactose, that ended up very bad I had to go to the hospital cause of the chronic pain i was having in my intestine. I am back on the paleo now, the little voice telling me that i have to be more skinny, well, i think is going away little by little, i never experienced any type of problems with the paleo regime, but i was once again bombarded by society and let myself fall down again.

I'm glad you decided to share your story here! I also have a lot of problems with my diet. And every time I fail I just want to give up and not try again. But lately I realized something. First thing, it could be that I just tried to do too many things at once. Second, I thought if I don't do everything right from the very beginning, I'm a loser. And then I somehow realized it doesn't matter to do everything right, it doesn't matter if I fail. What is important is to learn how to deal with bad times, and to learn to keep going. Maybe it will be long process, maybe I'll need five years to sort out my diet, maybe my diet will never be "perfect", but it doesn't matter. I'll just do what I can, I'll take small steps and will try and try.
Here is one article about willpower and paleo I found interesting: http://paleoleap.com/paleo-and-willpower/

About EE, if you can't do the whole program, or you have excuses for not doing it (don't have time, can't relax...) you can start with small steps. For example, five or ten minutes a day of pipe-breathing, or start with one round of pipe-breathing. Or you can start maybe with just a few POTS and see how it is going. Just do what you can.

 

[loreta]

Hello marinarm2890,

Think that this work on the diet that we are doing is like fighting this system. It is not an easy thing to do. There are many ways to fight this sick system, one of them is by taking care of our diet. Whenever you go, you see all these bad products, and depending where you live, bread and gluten are everywhere, just there, and people are addicted to them. The nutritionists have received an education by the system, so their diet is the reflection of the system. They have many diplomas but they still tell that soy is good, milk is good, carbohydrates are important, etc. I think the focus, our focus has to be in our health and see this as another discipline to grow for change. The temptations are there, and people and friends around us are there also to temp us because they are the voices of the system. To tempt us and also to make us feel doubt. But health and good energy are the most important thing on our lives, I think. To loose weight will come with time.

What help a lot is reading articles about the keto diet, about the malevolent gluten, about carbohydrates that are so bad. But you know this. Try to see what the others eat from a distant point of vue, this is another good exercise to do when you go to the stores. Try to be present and absent at the same time, to be you and at the same time a stranger that arrives here and look what people eat and say as something new. I do this exercise many times, when I am tempted to eat something that is not good for me. I ask myself: why they are eating this? Is this good? Do they know what they eat? And then I ask the same questions for me: why do I want to eat this product? Is this good for me? And then you see how mechanical they are and we are.

This system does not want helthy people. Nutrition is one of the most important program that serves this system. To be skinny also. To have the good measures also. I remember when I started to do the paleo diet I loosed many kilos, and people around me thought I was sick. They tried to make me feel bad, not aware of this because the majority of people are not aware of what they say or do. My doctor told me that my diet was not good. But I had faith because I felt better. Maybe faith is a too strong word. Ok, I had confidence in this diet. And the changes I did in my diet make me feel more confident.

Good luck!

 

[Tracy Anne]

Marinarm2890 thank you for posting this. It has been helpful for me to read the responses as I too have fallen off the wagon as far as keto diet goes and EE so dont feel bad as you are not the only one.

I travelled to NZ from the UK end of January for my daughters wedding and I hate to admit it but I ate so much wedding cake! It was so difficult visiting people too as most had made cakes etc to welcome us with a cup of tea.

Now on my return I am craving carbs and I am trying hard to get back onto keto but first will do it this week by eating no grains or excess sugar. My plan is to transition back onto it slowly over the next few weeks as I feel if I do it suddenly I wont last!

Yes ths weight issue I worry about too and would like to loose a couple of pounds.....however I found on keto my weight was stable and felt so well.

As they say......onwards and upwards!