Finland's new President wants US nukes

[Cosmos]

No, it is not a joke:

Finland's new president says Finland must have real nuclear deterrent

HELSINKI - Finland's new president Alexander Stubb said NATO'S nuclear deterrent must be real for Finland, as he took office on Friday after winning a close-fought presidential election on Feb. 11. Read more at straitstimes.com.

www.straitstimes.com

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/finland-inaugurates-alexander-stubb-president-nato-era-2024-03-01/

Well, you don't have to be a rocket scientist to predict what this soon could lead to. They might have crossed the line right there with those statements. If they are lucky, the Russians might hold back until the point that something real develops (aka. a concrete decision to do so and/or those weapons starting to be shipped from the US). The Finns are walking on very thin ice.

 

[Natus Videre]

No, it is not a joke:

...and so we are back on this 'Baltic' timeline.

Session 24 June 2022

(L) Is it still going to expand outside Ukraine?

A: Indeed. But many belligerants will fold rapidly.

Q: (Joe) No doubt. Is it likely to be one of the Baltic states?

A: Possible. Think real shock and awe.

 

[Cosmos]

Coincidence that Medvedev presented the following (shortly afterward?):

It seems to me that Medvedev's recent speech is a very interesting and potentially historic one! Unfortunately, I wasn't able to find a good and full translation into English. The only video translation I could find is this one:

It seems like Medvedev was pretty direct and exposed western politicians as ridiculous and spinless clowns, with supporting pictures and video material! Hilarious and ohh so true.

One of the main points that Medvedev made (judged by the rather bad simultaneous translation) seems to be that Russia could move into other countries that are in their strategic sphere of influence by force, not in order to steal/take the land/resources of the given countries, but in order to secure/enforce Russian friendly governments! In a similar way the roman empire and russia and others did it in the past. It seems to be a clear warning to western and/or purely western aligned countries in the strategic sphere of Russia, that if the west continues in that way, that the Russians can and probably would do that.

So, the question is, was what Medvedev said sanctioned by Putin? I think so.

Also, take into account that Medvedev is by all accounts the likely successor of Putin in 6 years. Also, notice how clear and undiplomatic Medvedev is speaking/texting, in a hard ball fashion in the last months/years on X and other platforms.

Also, somewhere else in the forum I speculated that Putin might have trained Medvedev as his successor for many years.

I wouldn’t be surprised if we are going to see Medvedev playing hard ball as soon as he is replacing Putin. Maybe that even starts before that point. And it all might have been planned in that way for a long time, as one of possible solutions to Russian problems, should the west not stop.

 

[hiker]

No, it is not a joke:

Finland's new president says Finland must have real nuclear deterrent

HELSINKI - Finland's new president Alexander Stubb said NATO'S nuclear deterrent must be real for Finland, as he took office on Friday after winning a close-fought presidential election on Feb. 11. Read more at straitstimes.com.

www.straitstimes.com

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/finland-inaugurates-alexander-stubb-president-nato-era-2024-03-01/

Well, you don't have to be a rocket scientist to predict what this soon could lead to. They might have crossed the line right there with those statements. If they are lucky, the Russians might hold back until the point that something real develops (aka. a concrete decision to do so and/or those weapons starting to be shipped from the US). The Finns are walking on very thin ice.

They don't call him "Stubido" for nothing.

 

[Cosmos]

Let’s summarize.

In just the last 1-2 weeks the following sequence of events happened:

1: Macron basically advocates for officially putting NATO troops into Ukraine in order to fight the Russians.

2: Leak: High ranking german military officers discuss how Russia can be attacked with Taurus rockets (civilian target: crimea bridge).

3: The new finish President announces that he wants American nukes on his territory facing Russia. That is VERY close to Moscow.

Hello? What?

Is it even possible to be more provocative?

 

[Cosmos]

It almost sounds like a bait.

Anyway, surely the Russians would have every right to react to this. Even possibly in a hard ball fashion. In fact, there might be no other sensible way they can react to it. It is not just a clear danger but a clear and dangerous threat.

 

[Cosmos]

If it continues like that one of my bets is on one of the following two szenarios (or both), sooner or later:

- The Russians resort to a quick “shock and awe“ campaign with their hypersonic missiles, in such an overwhelming way, that it sends shivers down the spine globally. It will show everyone their utter military superiority and daring guts. Thereby sending the following message to the PTB: “you can’t do anything about it, we are the boss. Your pants are down“. Also, making the use of nukes by the other side impossible/not viable. Possibly involving several countries at once.

- The Russians resort to a very fast “shock and awe“ campaign with their troops by marching into (possibly) several countries all at once right through into the capitals (with practically zero resistance encountered). In such an overwhelming way that it sends shivers down the spine globally. It will show everyone their utter military superiority and daring guts. Sending the following message to the PTB: “you can’t do anything about it, we are the boss. Your pants are down“. Possibly involving several countries at once.

Checkmate!

 

[Natus Videre]

It almost sounds like a bait.

The genderfluid chicken is poking the male Russian bear. What could possibly go wrong?

 

[Cosmos]

Or, if it is a bait, Putin might have other aces up his sleeve that nobody suspects. Such as turning down all oil and gas deliveries that go to western countries directly or indirectly. Or something else entirely.

 

[Seppo Ilmarinen]

Zakharova commented this yesterday, warning that if nukes will be deployed in Finland or elsewhere in the Northern Europe, the storage sites will be viewed as a military targets (during a confrontation), and that Nato and it's satellites are heading "towards a scenario of a military confrontation":

One does not have to be a military strategist to realize that such facilities will represent a source of direct threat and, naturally, will inevitably be included in the list of legitimate targets under a scenario of a direct military clash between our country and NATO,"

Zakharova said, while commenting on Finnish President Alexander Stubb's statements that his country "must have a real nuclear deterrent."

Zakharova warned that if US nuclear weapons were deployed to Northern Europe, "the security of the countries hosting these weapons will by no means get stronger, but on the contrary be harmed."

She expressed the certainty that the Finnish leader had not informed his voters about the military-strategic implications of such a decision.

"To what extent the people of Finland are aware of the risks they will have to face is a big question. Such a decision will really change a lot in the context of that country’s security and other issues relevant for that state," Zakharova pointed out.

At the same time, she stated, it is the scenario of a military confrontation between Russia and the North Atlantic Alliance that "the United States and its satellites are heading for."