luc said:Yes, Wanderer or not, I think it is interesting that certain people seem to literally thrive on evil food - I find it baffling sometimes to see people looking totally happy, energetic and "into it" while eating the worst possible diet! Often, I think these are the people who are very well-adapted to our crazy world, and who possibly get their energy by feeding from others - the "predator's mind" is all they have or know, so the evil food suits them. Osit.
Well, I'm reminded of the silent damage that cow's milk does to the arteries. You may have not a single symptom, and then one day, one of those pieces of plaque breaks off, and boom, you are gonzerooni. Or, the arteries in your neck close up and you die from a stroke - lack of blood to the brain. And I've seen that in people who ate junk and never had a single symptom all their lives. Therefore, I don't think that one can exactly say that such people are feeding on others or that evil food suits them because they are evil or whatever. Rather, the diet situation may reflect the psychological/emotional: they may be completely repressed (as you note in remarking on adjustment to this crazy world), but being killed by their diet nonetheless.
On the other hand, I rather agree that a lot of situations may be exactly as you describe above. It's just not so easy to generalize. That's one thing we are learning, for sure, and I think it has some deep, spiritual implications.
luc said:Also, this thread reminded me of Gurdjieff's exoteric and mesoteric circles:
G. said:"The third circle is called the 'exoteric,' that is, the outer, because it is the outer circle of the inner part of humanity. The people who belong to this circle possess much of that which belongs to people of the esoteric and mesoteric circles but their cosmic knowledge is of a more philosophical character, that is to say, it is more abstract than the knowledge of the mesoteric circle. A member of the mesoteric circle calculates, a member of the exoteric circle contemplates. Their understanding may not be expressed in actions. But there cannot be differences in understanding between them. What one understands all the others understand.
I seems that you guys are pushing into the mesoteric circle, where it may become possible to "calculate" our optimal diet, instead of "contemplating" about the predator's mind and so on, which I just did :)
Anyway, me too I'm a little overwhelmed by all the diet/health research, I'm still lacking a lot of knowledge in that area. So, I guess I will have to put some effort into it, little by little, to learn more and to be better able to contribute.
FWIW
The above comments seem to be very insightful to me.