Food banks ask gardeners to grow extra for hungry

FireShadow

Jedi Master
I have been reading the articles and forum thread here at SOTT for several months now. I don't post much as I have a lot of learning to do and do not want to just create noise. But, this article hit close to home for me.

Prior to finding SOTT, I had some awareness of the pathocracy (although I did not have that word for it). I have been aware of the insanity for years - Not only from hearing what they don't say on mainstream news, but I have felt it in terms of "energies" gathering. I had already come to the conclusion that both major parties in America were corrupted. I was certainly aware of the lack of critical thinking going on in general. I had come to feel mostly despair. I had no hope.

After finding SOTT and getting some real information (what a treasure trove!), I have begun to have hope for the first time in a good many years. It may sound strange to some that in learning how deep the rabbit hole goes, I find hope. Some of my friends feel more despair when they look at reality (so they have told me). For me, discovering (and continuing to discover) what is actually going on is liberating. I guess I am the type that finds focus in defining the problem so as to be able to look for solutions.

With the emphasis here on The Work, I have renewed my own Work. I now have focus and something however small that I can actually DO in the face of what seems overwhelming. That Work led me to facing one of my problems. I needed more exercise and fresh air. I needed more discipline. I have struggled with discipline for years with little success. Now, I feel a sense of purpose and discipline is a bit easier (not easy, just easier!). One of my obstacles to exercise is that exercise for its own sake is sooooo boring. I needed an activity that would engage me and get me moving at the same time.

I have wanted to learn gardening for some time and did try one a few years ago with a little success. But my back yard has a lot of chiggers and though I hate them, they love me. In a bit of laziness, I let the chiggers intimidate me into staying out of the yard.

Then, with the rising prices of food and energy, I was looking at ways to save money and continue to have some nutritional food to eat. About 6 weeks ago, I decided on baby steps and began with a few containers of beans and greens. That I could do. I had so much fun, that I began to clean up my front yard (I am embarrassed to admit I had let my yard go) and my flower beds. I planted a few other things. I started a compost pile...

I have very little experience, but several good books - "Gardening for Dummies" by the National Gardening Association and "Lasagna Gardening" by Patricia Lanza are two of my favorites. I especially like the one on Lasagna gardening as it tells how to layer in leaves, grass clippings, compost, etc to create a nutrient rich bed. I also have a friend who has been composting and using some of the lasagna techniques for years that I can consult with. She has even offered me some starter compost!

My first efforts are mostly focused on experimenting and getting my hands in the dirt as I learn. I am not expecting great success in terms of produce yet, but will hopefully learn enough to have a good fall crop. (I live in Texas and am blessed with a long growing season). This project has been therapeutic for me in many ways. Thank you SOTT for being here, I have found hope, motivation, and focus again.

In looking for ways that I can serve, I have had thoughts of sharing my "extra" (if I get some) with friends and neighbors. So, when I read this article, I was excited to see others with similar ideas. I am heartened by the sense of community that they show.

Although it is a sad state of affairs when people need charity in order to eat, perhaps it will galvanize some to wake up. I find that I can discuss this "cost of food" issue with most people without triggering their resistance. I am also working on the issue of helping to wake others up without violating free will and I hope this can be a way to "plant seeds".
 
I'm so pleased to read your post above, FireShadow. For I have also been deeply absorbed in creating a thriving garden out of a wilderness of a property, and have found it deeply fulfilling and soul-feeding in ways that I can't quite express. I have had the desire to write about my gardening activities on this forum, but in the end did not, for it did not really seem related to "the Work". And yet, I feel like I have grown and expanded in so many ways through my "year of the garden", it has become like a vocation.

I'm not new to gardening, having been a passionate gardener and a wannabe-back-to-the-lander when I was young. Forced to give it up during many years living in the big city, returning to it has been like coming home. Cognizant of the possible "earth changes" to come, I have in the back of my mind and activities the potential future usefulness (necessity?) of the gardening knowledge and skills I am rekindling, but it is mostly joy and pleasure that brings me to it. I have also been rekindling my knowledge of wild plants (in terms of medicinal value and edibility), of which there are a plethora in my semi-rural area.

I am surprised and gratified at how my gardening activities have brought me closer to the people in my immediate neighbourhood, who are constantly dropping by to see how things are progressing. It has opened up many opportunities to be of mutual assistance to others, including the donation of my "excess" produce to the local Food Bank. As related elsewhere on this forum, my cousin (and housemate) and I have both intuitively felt that this is the "right" place to be right now, and we are both very aware of the importance that "community" and "cooperation" may be in the coming times.

I live in southwestern Ontario Canada and am envious of your longer growing season in Texas, but we "northerners" have ways and means of extending our growing season via "hot beds", greenhouses, etc. You haven't lived until you've gotten up at 4am to spray warm water on your tender spring plants in order to ward off a potential frost.

There is SO MUCH excellent information, advice, experience, etc. out there in terms of books and the internet, I really encourage you to read as much as you can. I have had much success with raised beds and Mel Bartholomew's Square Foot Gardening technique. The best advice I can give to new gardeners is to build up the quality of your soil -- then you can ignore traditional "spacing" requirements, and just pack those plants in there. Really cuts down on weeding!
 
Thank you for the reply - you are so encouraging! I would have replied sooner, but I am self-employed and sometimes get very busy...

PepperFritz said:
...have found it deeply fulfilling and soul-feeding in ways that I can't quite express. I have had the desire to write about my gardening activities on this forum, but in the end did not, for it did not really seem related to "the Work". And yet, I feel like I have grown and expanded in so many ways through my "year of the garden", it has become like a vocation.
Yes, exactly! It feeds my soul and grounds me in the present.

PepperFritz said:
...Cognizant of the possible "earth changes" to come, I have in the back of my mind and activities the potential future usefulness (necessity?) of the gardening knowledge and skills I am rekindling, but it is mostly joy and pleasure that brings me to it. I have also been rekindling my knowledge of wild plants (in terms of medicinal value and edibility), of which there are a plethora in my semi-rural area.
Yes, I think this knowledge and skill set will be useful in the near future and if I don't make it to 4D STO (and don't get killed off), I would like to preserve and pass on whatever knowledge I can get now.

Edit: (added later) I forgot to add that although I don't have much knowledge in terms of wild plants, I do have a small bit of herbal knowledge and am attempting to plant some echinacea and other herbs I don't want to be without.

PepperFritz said:
I am surprised and gratified at how my gardening activities have brought me closer to the people in my immediate neighbourhood, who are constantly dropping by to see how things are progressing. It has opened up many opportunities to be of mutual assistance to others, including the donation of my "excess" produce to the local Food Bank. As related elsewhere on this forum, my cousin (and housemate) and I have both intuitively felt that this is the "right" place to be right now, and we are both very aware of the importance that "community" and "cooperation" may be in the coming times.
How wonderful that people are stopping by...building community. I have made more contact with my neighbors since I began gardening as well - it gives us a focal point for communication.

PepperFritz said:
I live in southwestern Ontario Canada and am envious of your longer growing season in Texas, but we "northerners" have ways and means of extending our growing season via "hot beds", greenhouses, etc. You haven't lived until you've gotten up at 4am to spray warm water on your tender spring plants in order to ward off a potential frost.
I am rather glad I don't have to get up at 4am to spray warm water on tender spring plants...I am not much of a morning person even after 6 years in the Army!

PepperFritz said:
There is SO MUCH excellent information, advice, experience, etc. out there in terms of books and the internet, I really encourage you to read as much as you can. I have had much success with raised beds and Mel Bartholomew's Square Foot Gardening technique. The best advice I can give to new gardeners is to build up the quality of your soil -- then you can ignore traditional "spacing" requirements, and just pack those plants in there. Really cuts down on weeding!
Yes, there are a lot of great books on the subject. I really like the book on Lasagna gardening as it builds up the soil as you so wisely advise. It also cuts down on tilling and weeding...and enables you to plant more closely together as in "Square Foot Gardening".
 
In these times, I take nothing for granted when I feel instinctively drawn to a certain area; I feel that I ignore such inner promptings at my peril, so to speak. In addition to my return to gardening, I have also felt compelled to research the wild plants in my area in terms of their (alleged) medicinal properties as well as edibility. As indicated in my recent thread Homemade Herbal Tinctures?, I have decided to move beyond using dried plants and herbs and teas, and will be trying my hand at making concentrated tinctures. It really feels like the "right" thing to pursue right now. I also feel a deep "soul-connect6ion" to it -- as I said to my housemate today "I think I must have been a witch in a previous life"... hehe....
 
I may have also been a witch in a previous life as I have always been drawn to herbs. I have only made a few tinctures, however. Mostly, I have made teas. Will you be posting your results on that thread? I would love to follow your progress.

There is a going joke in my house that when the guys (my husband and at one time we had a friend staying with us) get sick, I give them "nasty herb teas" to drink. They get well quickly and I am not sure if it is because the teas work or that the guys get better just to avoid having to drink more of the tea. I don't think the teas taste so bad, but that is just me. But, then, when they do get sick, they still come to me for the teas. After our friend moved out of state, he called me one day for my recipe (a cold/flu remedy) because it had worked so well for him in the past, so perhaps their objections was just "male blustering" - gotta keep up the tough guy image, you know.

You may be right about learning about the wild plants. I think you are right to follow your instincts on this. It has the ring of a good idea to me as well. I have long wanted to learn, but feel overwhelmed by the task. So, perhaps it is fear that holds me back...maybe, I should look into that. More knowledge to gather and preserve...

One of the reasons I want to grow echinacea is because I want to grow the difficult to obtain (and more expensive) Echinacea Angustifolia which has been over harvested. From what I have read and some of my experimentation, it has a more potent effect as a result of a few constituents not present in Echinacea Purpurea. I found a pretty good online source of organic seeds and bulk herbs and spices (Mountain Rose Herbs) and will try my hand at growing some.

What with the rising prices of everything and the seeming drive to ban natural supplements and herbs, I don't want to be without my remedies! For years, I have been skeptical of pharmaceuticals - seems the side effects are often worse than the condition they are supposed to fix! Just reading the side effects is like reading a horror story! I can't remember the name of the drug, but I once saw a commercial for a drug for "acid reflux disease" that had a side effect of possible spontaneous bleeding of the stomach. Yes, that is much better than heartburn...

Mostly, I focus on the basics - garlic, echinacea, ginger, chamomile and other common ones like peppermint, aloe vera, etc. I also like to focus on commonly available herbs as I have learned that many of them have multiple uses. I have made it a practice to learn the ones relevant to our needs and as we really don't get sick too often, there are not many relevant ones for me to learn. I try to feed us a good healthy diet which I believe helps our general state of health. I do have several good herbal books and perhaps I should widen my scope. Just in case.

You motivate me.
 
FireShadow said:
There is a going joke in my house that when the guys (my husband and at one time we had a friend staying with us) get sick, I give them "nasty herb teas" to drink. They get well quickly and I am not sure if it is because the teas work or that the guys get better just to avoid having to drink more of the tea.
LOL, well I must confess that I don't much like the taste of the teas I make either (with the exception of my catnip/lemon-balm tea, which is not bad). But then, I don't try to make them palatable. I just pack as much as I can of the needed ingredients into the cup, pour in boiled water, cover, come back about an hour later to strain, then hold my nose while I gulp the whole thing down in one go.

FireShadow said:
One of the reasons I want to grow echinacea is because I want to grow the difficult to obtain (and more expensive) Echinacea Angustifolia which has been over harvested. From what I have read and some of my experimentation, it has a more potent effect as a result of a few constituents not present in Echinacea Purpurea. I found a pretty good online source of organic seeds and bulk herbs and spices (Mountain Rose Herbs) and will try my hand at growing some.
I wasn't aware of that, very intersting. Let me know if you find a seed source for the Echinacea Angustifolia. I was given an Echinacea Purpurea plant this spring, and it is growing in my front bed, but hasn't bloomed yet.

FireShadow said:
I have only made a few tinctures, however.
Well, that's more than I have made to date, hehe. Which herbs/plants did you use, and what kind of alcohol? Do you have access to 100-proof alcohol, or did you use vodka? To begin, I'm going to concentrate on plants that are available to me that have pain-killing, anti-inflammatory properties, as I suffer from a chronic auto-immune disease that causes extensive inflammation in my body. I grow Feverfew in my garden, and have access to Motherwort, Yarrow, and Mullein in nearby "wild" areas. I also grow all the standard herbs, and will eventually make tinctures from them as well.

FireShadow said:
Will you be posting your results on that thread? I would love to follow your progress.
Yes, but I'm really hoping that there are others with my experience who can provide more "guidance" than I can at the moment. Otherwise, ya'll be learning from my mistakes, hehe....
 
_http://www.mountainroseherbs.com is where I get the Echinacea Angustifolia seeds and sometimes they have the herb and the root as well. I love echinacea and would hate to be without it. I have had such great results with it in cutting recuperation time (in half) of colds and flu.

I really miss ephedrine (the herb) for teas. It helped get rid of congestion without all those nasty side effects of the OTC (over-the-counter) decongestants. But, alas, they have banned it. Reportedly because it was being packaged as an "energy boost" and people were having strokes. (IMHO, irresponsible marketing and irresponsible usage has given the PTB the excuse they needed to ban a very useful herb.)

I am hoping (at least to start with) to focus on a general medicinal collection - things for burns, colds, indigestion, infections - you know, remedies for common ailments.

Sorry, I don't remember (it was over 20 years ago) which herbs I used for tinctures, except I remember something with brandy...I do remember making a tincture with a resin - myrhh with whiskey. I used this tincture to combat gum disease and it did help some. I had better results with garlic, though. All my herb books say that vodka is fine to use for tinctures. I used to know some moonshiners, but that was long ago. Again, sorry. I will ask some of my friends to see if they made any tinctures and if so, I will post the results in your thread on that topic.

Edit: forgot to add:


PepperFritz said:
Yes, but I'm really hoping that there are others with my experience who can provide more "guidance" than I can at the moment. Otherwise, ya'll be learning from my mistakes, hehe....
We can all learn together (those who are interested that is).
 
Great to read your posts Pepperfitz and Fireshadow, our family has a small farm and we enjoy working in the soil, because of our location we have a year round growing season. One of our crops this year was 'Olena/ Tumeric. I mention this because we have found that this ginger like root has many medicinal purposes - one in particular may be helpful for you Pepperfritz, Tumeric is an anti-inflammatory
From Dr. Weil's site Can Herbs Combat Inflammation? http://www.drweil.com/drw/u/id/QAA142972
Dr. Weil said:
there are a number of excellent anti-inflammatory herbs. The most important are:
* Turmeric (Curcuma longa): Turmeric accounts for the yellow color of curry and American mustard and has a distinctive sharp flavor. I recommend turmeric for all inflammatory disorders, including arthritis, tendonitis, and auto immune conditions. Take 400 to 600 milligrams of turmeric extracts (available in tablets or capsules) three times per day or as directed on the product label. Whole turmeric is more effective than isolated curcumin, its major constituent. Look for products standardized for 95% curcuminoids. Be patient: the full benefit takes two months to develop. Don't use turmeric if you have gallstones or bile duct dysfunction. Pregnant women shouldn't use it without their doctors' approval. In rare cases, extended use can cause stomach upset or heartburn.
* Ginger: Powdered dry ginger is an excellent anti-inflammatory. Take one to two capsules (500 to 1,000 mg) twice a day with food. As with turmeric, you won't get the full effect for two months.
We have been drinking the fresh juice from the tumeric root for many types of ailments, such as colds, ear and sinus inflammation and upset stomach. We also have dried and powdered the tumeric (keeps longer than fresh juice) so we can fill small gel caps and take when needed. Our grandmother has been taking it since her visit for arthritis and she has shared she noticed a decrease in her arthritic pain. It also helped in healing a
lung inflammation she was suffering from. A Hawaiian Healer that I have talked with shared that he makes a tincture with fresh tumeric juice, apple cider vinegar and honey, taken 3 times a day it helps clear out the nose and sinus passages and packs a energy boost.
Another project we are working on in farming is creating heirloom seeds. A great organization that collects and trades seeds is the Seed Savers Exchange http://www.seedsavers.org/ They have an extensive catalog of food seeds in addition to a huge selection of medicinal plant seeds. I have tried to grow Echinacea Angustifolia but cannot get the seeds to sprout, I am wondering if the humidity is too high for this type of seed. I will try again and see what happens. Great to read about others who are growing and making home medicines, thanks for the opportunity to share. Look forward to much learning!
 
Thank you so much for this information, Erykah! I had recently come across references to turmeric as a great healing herb. In fact, I just bought some in bulk for this very reason. Previously, I only used it in curries and other Indian foods.

I have also been interested in heirloom seeds, so thanks again - for the link.

I don't know if I will have any luck with the Echinacea Angustifolia seeds, but I will try. I am waiting for a fall planting as per instructions on packet and in my gardening books. I am also going to share some of the seeds with a friend who has a lot more gardening experience than I do. Perhaps, she will have more luck. I figure with both of us trying, we might get a plant or two. It is my understanding that if you can get a plant going, it is not that hard to propogate more from it by "layering"...
 
Erykah said:
One of our crops this year was 'Olena/ Tumeric. I mention this because we have found that this ginger like root has many medicinal purposes - one in particular may be helpful for you Pepperfritz, Tumeric is an anti-inflammatory.... We have been drinking the fresh juice from the tumeric root for many types of ailments, such as colds, ear and sinus inflammation and upset stomach. We also have dried and powdered the tumeric (keeps longer than fresh juice) so we can fill small gel caps and take when needed.... Powdered dry ginger is an excellent anti-inflammatory....
Well, it's funny you should mention Tumeric and Ginger as anti-inflammatory, as I just started taking both this week! I found some organically-grown Tumeric powder at my local grocery store, filled some large gelatin capsules with the powder, and have been taking them 3x per day. I also bought some ginger root, and have been cutting it up into small pieces, swallowing them like pills 3x per day.

Unfortunately I am not in a climate where I can grow Tumeric and Ginger myself. "Ginger Powder" I've not heard of, perhaps I can find some at the Health Food Store in a nearby town. Wish I could get my hands on some fresh Tumeric root and make juice from that, as you do. I will be travelling to Toronto next week for a medical appointment, and could probably find some in that city's "Little India" neighbourhood. How do you go about drying and powdering Tumeric and/or Ginger root yourself?
 
FireShadow said:
I had recently come across references to turmeric as a great healing herb. In fact, I just bought some in bulk for this very reason. Previously, I only used it in curries and other Indian foods....
So is the Tumeric you "bought in bulk" powdered? If so, how are you ingesting it? In gelatin capsules?
 
PepperFritz said:
Unfortunately I am not in a climate where I can grow Tumeric and Ginger myself. "Ginger Powder" I've not heard of, perhaps I can find some at the Health Food Store in a nearby town. Wish I could get my hands on some fresh Tumeric root and make juice from that, as you do. I will be travelling to Toronto next week for a medical appointment, and could probably find some in that city's "Little India" neighbourhood. How do you go about drying and powdering Tumeric and/or Ginger root yourself?
I have not tried it yet, but I have read in one of my gardening books that ginger can be grown in a container. I am planning to try this out soon. I will let you know how it goes.

Ginger powder is nothing more than dried powdered ginger - commonly found in most supermarkets. Or, you can buy it in bulk online at that link I posted previously (http://www.mountainroseherbs.com) - they have organic at only $3.75 for 4 oz.
 
PepperFritz said:
FireShadow said:
I had recently come across references to turmeric as a great healing herb. In fact, I just bought some in bulk for this very reason. Previously, I only used it in curries and other Indian foods....
So is the Tumeric you "bought in bulk" powdered? If so, how are you ingesting it? In gelatin capsules?
Yes, it is powdered. I have not yet tried it for medicinal purposes. I think I may try it for the arthritis in my knees. I'll probably put it in a tea, haven't decided what to put with it yet...I'll let you know once I give it a try.


Edit: As I re-read previous posts, I think I will try the turmeric along with the ginger in a tea with licorice root powder (I find it has a synergizing effect in addition to being beneficial for digestion) and a little honey. I really like teas because I think that the smell and taste let my body know what is coming. It may be my imagination, but I have tried capsules and did not have the results that I get with teas. I know other people have better results with capsules, so I think you may need to try it different ways and see what your body likes.

Note: I originally put this edit in the previous post by mistake. I have moved it here. Sorry for any confusion.
 
FireShadow said:
I have not tried it yet, but I have read in one of my gardening books that ginger can be grown in a container. I am planning to try this out soon. I will let you know how it goes.
Yes, I read that as well, in an internet article titled Growing Ginger Root. However, it indicates that you need a growing season of 8 to 10 months (from planting of rhizomes to harvest). Here in Canada the best we can hope for is a growing season of 5-6 months. But maybe the roots can be started indoors under grow lights. Mmmmmmm.....

FireShadow said:
I think I will try the turmeric along with the ginger in a tea with licorice root powder (I find it has a synergizing effect in addition to being beneficial for digestion) and a little honey. I really like teas because I think that the smell and taste let my body know what is coming. It may be my imagination, but I have tried capsules and did not have the results that I get with teas. I know other people have better results with capsules, so I think you may need to try it different ways and see what your body likes.
I just read, in an internet article, that people in India often mix Turmeric powder with milk. I think I shall give that a try. Also, apparently it is possible to make a tincture from the fresh root. So if I can get some fresh root when I'm in Toronto next week....
 
Pepperfritz said:
Unfortunately I am not in a climate where I can grow Tumeric and Ginger myself. "Ginger Powder" I've not heard of, perhaps I can find some at the Health Food Store in a nearby town. Wish I could get my hands on some fresh Tumeric root and make juice from that, as you do. I will be travelling to Toronto next week for a medical appointment, and could probably find some in that city's "Little India" neighborhood. How do you go about drying and powdering Tumeric and/or Ginger root yourself?
The best method I have found for powdering Tumeric and Ginger is to wash and grate the roots(Food processor), spread the grated pieces out on a cookie sheet and dry in a warm place(usually takes 2 days). Once the pieces are dry, they feel hard and crunchy, put into a coffee grinder or food processor and grind to a fine powder. Beware any processor you use will turn a bright yellow color from the tumeric, it is also a very strong dye!
After this drying and powdering process the tumeric can be stored with other cooking herbs and has an unlimited shelf life! And it is wonderful to use in cooking many types of dishes, I use it alot as a food coloring for egg salad and tofu scramble.
Pepperfritz said:
Yes, I read that as well, in an internet article titled Growing Ginger Root. However, it indicates that you need a growing season of 8 to 10 months (from planting of rhizomes to harvest). Here in Canada the best we can hope for is a growing season of 5-6 months.
Growing Tumeric and ginger does take at least 10 months, here in Hawaii we plant in March, the roots take sometimes over a month to sprout new growth, by October or November the tumeric produces a beautiful yellow flower and then the entire plant dies, then we did up the roots. There are ginger farmers who have begun growing in large burlap sacks, keeping the root out of the ground to cut down on insects and weeding. This may be a way to start the roots indoors and then move the bags outside during the summer months.
You may find the fresh root of Tumeric and ginger in an Asian Grocery store the Korean name for Tumeric is Kuwon and here in China town you can find it in small amounts. Hope this info was helpful.
 
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