France - Charlie Hebdo Attack

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11 people, two of them policemen, have been killed and 10 wounded in the shooting massacre at Paris headquarters of satirical newspaper Charlie Hebdo. Five of the wounded are in critical condition.

http://rt.com/news/220519-shooting-france-police-paris/

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Saw this on TV a few moments ago.

Another video here :

http://www.francetvinfo.fr/faits-divers/attaque-au-siege-de-charlie-hebdo/video-des-images-de-l-attaque-au-siege-de-charlie-hebdo_790543.html

12 dead, two policemen amongst the victims.

Two men heavily armed,black masks, cold blooded, shouting "Allahu Akbar"...

Another false flag operation which ends up killing innocents :shock:

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Just saw another video that was uploaded where one of the cops gets executed, truly sickening. There is a livestream of france 24 here on the situation:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFwedk4dBCc#t=19
 
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I cannot stop thinking about the last threath from Netanyahou, directly adressed to France in last November about the recognition of a Palestinian state:


Translation: Caution Netanyahu: "the recognition of a Palestinian state by France would be a serious mistake"

However, how sad once again this is for all innocents people involved...
 
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Is France is "thinking" of going to Libya to fight against the Islamic Kalif? I hear yesterday Mr. Hollande talking about moving into Libya but "for now" he said "there is no question to go in Libya". This morning I hear the French propaganda in RFI that it was a good thing to go into Libya. Now they have a good reason! I would not be surprise that the killers are said to be from Libya.

What a beautiful new year that they are giving to us, these sick and malevolent psychopaths. It is really the devil incarnated.
 
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MK Scarlett said:
I cannot stop thinking about the last threath from Netanyahou, directly adressed to France in last November about the recognition of a Palestinian state:

Translation: Caution Netanyahu: "the recognition of a Palestinian state by France would be a serious mistake"

However, how sad once again this is for all innocents people involved...
I am thinking the same, given drones over nuclear facilities,Hollande's unplanned visit to Putin and then France vote for Plaestine in UNSC. RT says:

Charlie Hebdo is a controversial French satirical newspaper that was under attack over the publication of caricatures of Muslim leaders and the Prophet Mohammed in 2011.
Wiki says:
is a French satirical weekly newspaper, featuring cartoons, reports, polemics and jokes. Irreverent and stridently non-conformist in tone, the publication is strongly antireligious[2] and left-wing, publishing articles on the extreme right, Catholicism, Islam, Judaism, politics, culture, etc. According to its editor, Charb, the magazine's editorial viewpoint reflects "all components of left wing pluralism, and even abstainers".[3]
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In 2000, journalist Mona Chollet was sacked after she had protested against a Philippe Val article which called Palestinians "non-civilized".[6]
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Future president Nicolas Sarkozy sent a letter to be read in court expressing his support for the ancient French tradition of satire.[10] François Bayrou and future president François Hollande also expressed their support for freedom of expression. The French Council of the Muslim Faith (CFCM) criticized the expression of these sentiments, claiming they were politicizing a court case.[11]
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On March 22, 2007, executive editor Philippe Val was acquitted by the court.[12] The court followed the state attorney's reasoning that two of the three cartoons were not an attack on Islam, but on Muslim terrorists, and that the third cartoon with Mohammed with a bomb in his turban should be seen in the context of the magazine in question which attacked religious fundamentalism.
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In 2008, controversy broke over a column by veteran cartoonist Siné led to accusations of antisemitism and Siné's sacking by Val. Siné sued the newspaper for unfair dismissal and Charlie Hebdo was sentenced to pay him 90,000 euros in damages.[13] Siné launched a rival paper called Siné Hebdo which later became Siné Mensuel. Charlie Hebdo launched its Internet site, after years of reluctance[citation needed] from Val.
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In the early hours of November 2, 2011, the newspaper's office in the 20th arrondissement[14] was fire-bombed and its website hacked. The attacks were presumed linked to its decision to rename a special edition "Charia Hebdo", with the Islamic Prophet Mohammed listed as the "editor-in-chief".[15] The cover, featuring a cartoon of Mohammed by Luz (Renald Luzier), had circulated on social media for a couple of days.

Charb was quoted by AP stating that the attack might have been carried out by "stupid people who don't know what Islam is" and that they are "idiots who betray their own religion". Mohammed Moussaoui, head of the French Council of the Muslim Faith, said his organisation deplores "the very mocking tone of the paper toward Islam and its prophet but reaffirms with force its total opposition to all acts and all forms of violence."[16] François Fillon, the prime minister, and Claude Guéant, the interior minister, voiced support for Charlie Hebdo,[14] as did feminist writer Ayaan Hirsi Ali, who criticised calls for self-censorship
Newspaper looks more of a neutral towards religions, though it used Islam for its satirical contents, probably other religions too.
 
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seek10 said:
Newspaper looks more of a neutral towards religions, though it used Islam for its satirical contents, probably other religions too.

Except for the Judaism, how convenient...
 
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Interesting timeline there :

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/paris-charlie-hebdo-shooting-live-10-dead-islam-satirist-hq-1482317

Famous cartoonists dead in the shooting : Cabu, Wolinski, Charb, Tignous...

The attackers spoke french fluently and knew exactly when and how to strike.

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MK Scarlett said:
seek10 said:
Newspaper looks more of a neutral towards religions, though it used Islam for its satirical contents, probably other religions too.

Except for the Judaism, how convenient...

No, the newspaper is not neutral, it's strongly anti-muslim. It was already attacked a few years ago, when a fire broke out at its headquarters - the affair was dubious, to say the least. The newspaper had been having financial difficulties for some time. After the fire, it received 300 000 Euros in damages and was temporarily relocated at the headquarters of the mainstream newspaper Libération, the first shareholder of which is Edouard de Rothschild.

Here's what Charlie Hebdo published a few days ago:
https://twitter.com/AlexHervaud/status/552795876662714369/photo/1
(caption: still no attack in France? Wait, we still have till the end of January to give our wishes"

On their website, they published this:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B6vuwhqIgAARVaI.png
it says: "Charlie's in danger. Raising our selling prices is out of the question, but we absolutely have to find a way to go on without depending on external shareholders or banks' attacks"

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[quote author=BBC News]"At least two masked attackers opened fire with assault rifles in the office and exchanged shots with police in the street outside before escaping by car.

The gunmen shouted "we have avenged the Prophet Muhammad", witnesses say.

President Francois Hollande said there was no doubt it had been a terrorist attack "of exceptional barbarity".

A major police operation is under way in the Paris area to catch the killers."

link: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-30710883
[/quote]

More fuel for wars in the middle east, more death, more destruction.

While the French government denied the attacks were linked, it announced plans to further raise security in public spaces, including the deployment of around 300 soldiers.

How convenient! One step closer to martial law! Happy 2015 guys :clap:
 
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seek10 said:
I am thinking the same, given drones over nuclear facilities,Hollande's unplanned visit to Putin and then France vote for Plaestine in UNSC. RT says:

I agree, also Hollande has urged lifting sanctions on Russia

Mr Hollande said Russian President Vladimir Putin "doesn't want to annex eastern Ukraine - he told me that".

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-30679176
 
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http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/08/world/europe/charlie-hebdo-paris-shooting.html?_r=0

PARIS — Masked gunmen burst into the Paris offices of a French satirical newspaper on Wednesday and killed 12 people, including top journalists and two police officers, before fleeing in a car. The gunmen were still at large at dusk, as an extensive police dragnet spread across a traumatized city.

Among the dead were four prominent cartoonists who have repeatedly lampooned Islamic terrorists and the Prophet Muhammad, leading to speculation that the attack on the newspaper, Charlie Hebdo, was the work of Islamic militants acting alone or in concert with extremist groups.

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added: whoops! there is a discussion already in progress https://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,36887.0.html
 
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Adaryn said:
No, the newspaper is not neutral, it's strongly anti-muslim. It was already attacked a few years ago, when a fire broke out at its headquarters - the affair was dubious, to say the least. The newspaper had been having financial difficulties for some time. After the fire, it received 300 00 Euros in damages and was temporarily relocated at the headquarters of the mainstream newspaper Libération, the first shareholder of which is Edouard de Rothschild.

Indeed. For members abroad who might not know, Charlie Hebdo were the ones to reproduce the infamous Allah caricatures a few years ago. Under the banner of 'liberty of speech', they were going pretty far insulting muslims. They sometimes joked about Jesus or (more rarely) about Jews, but only for good measure, it seems.

Very often caricatures would depict Mahomet naked or with breasts, or alluding that he had sex with either a pig's head or 9-year-old girls. It was pretty violent.
 
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Mrs. Tigersoap said:
Adaryn said:
No, the newspaper is not neutral, it's strongly anti-muslim. It was already attacked a few years ago, when a fire broke out at its headquarters - the affair was dubious, to say the least. The newspaper had been having financial difficulties for some time. After the fire, it received 300 00 Euros in damages and was temporarily relocated at the headquarters of the mainstream newspaper Libération, the first shareholder of which is Edouard de Rothschild.

Indeed. For members abroad who might not know, Charlie Hebdo were the ones to reproduce the infamous Allah caricatures a few years ago. Under the banner of 'liberty of speech', they were going pretty far insulting muslims. They sometimes joked about Jesus or (more rarely) about Jews, but only for good measure, it seems.

Yes, there's no comparison - their jokes about christians were less violent, and their jokes on judaism nonexistant, or very toned-down.
Nevertheless, the whole thing is horrible.
Here's the uncensured video of the shooting in the street:
_http://www.bvoltaire.fr/videos/video-non-censuree-de-lattentat-contre-charlie-hebdo,150180

From this site:
_http://www.europe1.fr/faits-divers/le-scenario-de-la-tuerie-a-charlie-hebdo-2337637

Les deux tireurs quittent ensuite le bâtiment. Au moment de prendre la fuite, ils font feu des policiers qui tentent de les interpeller. Sur une vidéo filmée par un riverain, on voit l’un des policiers blessés se rouler parterre. Un des tireurs s'approche alors de lui et lâche : "tu voulais me tuer ?". Apeuré, le policier, un gardien de la paix âgé de 42 ans, répond : "non, c’est bon chef", levant le bras vers lui pour se protéger. Le tueur se rapproche alors un peu plus de lui en trottinant et lui tire dessus à bout portant.

(Google translate) Both shooters then leave the building. At the time of taking flight, they fire at police who try to challenge them. On a video shot by a local resident, we see one of the wounded policemen rolling on the floor. One of the gunmen then approaches him and says 'you wanted to kill me? ". Frightened, the police officer, peacekeeper aged 42, says: "no, it's ok, leader," raising his arm to him for protection. The killer then approaches a little more of him, trotting, and shot him point blank.

Acc. to witnesses inside the CH headquarters, the attackers were very organized, calm, and shot in cold-blood everyone standing in front of them.

Mr T said:
The attackers spoke french fluently and knew exactly when and how to strike

Oncle Bernard - another member of CH, an economist journalist - is also among the victims. How well-informed these guys must have been, to strike on a day where all these journalists were holding a meeting, and to shoot the most prominent figures of the newspaper.
 
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Interestingly, Dutch state television just had a broadcast that had an "expert" claiming that the men in the video appeared to be executing the attack professionally and as if trained for missions like this. He then alluded to them perhaps being trained in a training camp in Syria, which was a nice load of unsubstantiated conjecture I think. He also mentioned that the men seemed to use hand gestures to communicate like they do in the military. One of the men seemed to be making a gesture circling his index finger in the air, a gesture to communicate a let's go or let's move signal, although it would be strange to use that signal if you're only with two people, suggesting that there was perhaps another accomplice out of the view of the camera. It's hard to see from the video I think, though he might be right.
 

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