Germany: Religious Circumcisions Are Crimes

Windmill knight said:
whitecoast said:
Puzzle said:
I wonder where this is going to lead, given the 'fury' and manipulative pity ploy elicited in jewish circles. According to a German article there's a bunch of 'donators' from Israel, the US and Europe, who have already paid millions into a fund to battle the court's decision. The jewish multimillionaire Edi Gast has paid 10 Mio Euros into this fund, and the money is to be used by lobbyists and attorneys.

Wow. They must really hate children. :shock:

Very well and succintly put whitecoast. Goes to the heart of the matter.

Given what Puzzle says I have this bad feeling that they'll give in to the will of child-mutilators in the end. :( Hopefully before that happens people will awake to the insanity of these so-called 'religions'.

Yes, since reading above article I also this bad feeling, and indeed, today's article states how Angela Merkel is "warning of prohibiting circumcision". Merkel, translated quote:

I don't want Germany to be the only country in the world in which jews cannot practice their rituals. Else we'll be making ourselves a nation of comedians.

:curse:
 
vaio said:
Religious circumcisions are bodily harm and thus a crime, a German court ruled this week, in what was dubbed a precedent-setting decision.

Some very good news for a change. I wonder what the irrational backlash will be from we know who.
 
Ailén said:
Kudos to Germany for doing this. Leaving aside what "religions" are like today, "Freedon of religion" should never include "freedom to torture small children and scar them for life".

While I couldn't agree more, I worry a bit if this couldn't lead to an assault on freedom (of religion) alltogether? Like, for example, to forbid feeding your children good food, or teaching them the right things? I think the mentality in Germany is such that this is not unimaginable... Of course, for Jewish Circumcisions they will always make an exception. Anyway, I agree: Kudos to the court for such a bold decision.
 
luc said:
Ailén said:
Kudos to Germany for doing this. Leaving aside what "religions" are like today, "Freedon of religion" should never include "freedom to torture small children and scar them for life".

While I couldn't agree more, I worry a bit if this couldn't lead to an assault on freedom (of religion) alltogether? Like, for example, to forbid feeding your children good food, or teaching them the right things?

This is already happening. MIVILUDES in France is doing this. Government agencies in the U.S. are doing this, along with Authoritarians in politics, especially the neocons.
 
Puzzle said:
Windmill knight said:
whitecoast said:
Puzzle said:
I wonder where this is going to lead, given the 'fury' and manipulative pity ploy elicited in jewish circles. According to a German article there's a bunch of 'donators' from Israel, the US and Europe, who have already paid millions into a fund to battle the court's decision. The jewish multimillionaire Edi Gast has paid 10 Mio Euros into this fund, and the money is to be used by lobbyists and attorneys.

Wow. They must really hate children. :shock:

Very well and succintly put whitecoast. Goes to the heart of the matter.

Given what Puzzle says I have this bad feeling that they'll give in to the will of child-mutilators in the end. :( Hopefully before that happens people will awake to the insanity of these so-called 'religions'.

Yes, since reading above article I also this bad feeling, and indeed, today's article states how Angela Merkel is "warning of prohibiting circumcision". Merkel, translated quote:

I don't want Germany to be the only country in the world in which jews cannot practice their rituals. Else we'll be making ourselves a nation of comedians.

:curse:

Well, this is understandable because public image is more important than children's well-being. Don't you just love politics? :headbash: :curse:
 
In Germany it's very simple:

If you criticize Israel, you're an anti-semite. A new word that's seems to get popular is "Eso-Nazis", a mixture of Nazi and Esotericist.
It is really, really getting boring. It's like people who start their sentence with "if you would really love me, you would...". We call this the "Anti-Semitismus Keule" (Antisemitism-Club), because if you call someone anti-semite in Germany, that's pretty much like saying he has puppies for breakfast. No one will ever listen to him, no matter what he actually says.
And you can use it with everything: People who believe in chemtrails, who deny the official 9/11 stuff, "conspiracy theorists", who have compassion with Palestine, and so on. One journalist once told some other guy in an interview (both had been called anti-semites) in a cynical voice that the "Anti-Semitismus" club is like a medal, it tells you that you have reached a bigger audience...
It is no surprise at all that you hear this kind of distorted argumentation, cheap desperate ad hominem.

Oh and when it comes to Merkels "we'll be making ourselves a nation of comedians"... no, you wouldn't turn the German people into comedians, so never worry. As far as herself, she allready did with hundreds other things, so no need to worry there either!

But then, this whole stuff is just another sign of the Ponerisation that is going on everywhere.

Will they also allow child sacrifice, because some f***ed up satanists claim this as a part of their religion?

What if it's part of MY religion to say whatever I want? To deny RFID? Not to be spied on? To have access to clean food and water? Access to real education? Real news? Or my religion would be peacefull and I don't want my state to give submarines - capable to be equiped with nukes - to warmongering psychopathic criminals? To be a human being?

But then I guess, my religion would be anti-semitic to them ;)
 
I also think it's about time that this barbaric ritual be outlawed.

reading this article on Sott:

The Associated Press reports that Pinchas Goldschmidt, the chief rabbi of Moscow and the president of the Conference of European Rabbis, said the court's decision was part of what he saw as growing infringement upon religious freedom in Europe.

"We see this development as part of the larger problem in Europe today," he said, citing France's ban on face-covering Muslim veils and Switzerland's ban on the construction of new minarets for mosques.

Such play at with words... in regards to "religious freedom". They are saying mutilating children is the same as covering hair/skin with a cloth or building minarets for mosques. Are you kidding me?!?

Also the articles on the Sott comment give a clear picture of why circumcision should be banned.

Germany is home to 4 million Muslims, the second biggest community in Europe, and to about 120,000 Jews. In a rare display of religious unity, the leaders of both faiths teamed up in Brussels and Berlin last week to demand a reversal of the ban

Go figure that the only thing the Muslims and Jews can agree on is a sadistic religious ritual! Sheesh! :rolleyes:
 
Well, the main part of the Lower House of German Parliament (coalition (CDU and FDP) and SPD) is for circumcision and demanding a fast legalization for it. That means they demand a protection for circumcision instead of kids and their free choice.

So I guess, Germany is ruled by psychopaths as well.
 
Gawan said:
I did hope for that there is still some sanity in this world.

Yeah, I know.

Maybe we should write and publish a scathing indictment of circumcision and come right out and call it psychopathic.
 
Gawan said:
Gandalf said:
Gawan said:
So I guess, Germany is ruled by psychopaths as well.

Did you have any doubts about that ?

I did hope for that there is still some sanity in this world.

FWIW, I've been impressed with how Iceland managed the financial collapse/onslaught and Norway the false flag operation. They seem to be some of the least ponerized democracies in the western world at the moment.
 
whitecoast said:
Gawan said:
Gandalf said:
Gawan said:
So I guess, Germany is ruled by psychopaths as well.

Did you have any doubts about that ?

I did hope for that there is still some sanity in this world.

FWIW, I've been impressed with how Iceland managed the financial collapse/onslaught and Norway the false flag operation. They seem to be some of the least ponerized democracies in the western world at the moment.

Indeed!

However, isnt it all the same no matter where you go? Perhaps it's just the illusion of the' least ponerized countries' that 4d STS want to project. As in "at least there is a few countries where 'good' still lives!", for the masses to believe in. If our overlords are as smart and insidious as they are theorised to be, then this is a pretty good lie to believe in. OSIT

Still you gotta have hope!
 
I just read an interesting interview, with an israeli anti-circumcision aktivist, Jonathan Enosch. Sadly it's in german...

In this interview he says that circumcision is the "most accepted crime in world-history", that he's happy to hear about the court that wanted to make it illegal, and sad to hear that it didn't work out. Further, he calls it an act of rape, and he says that most people don't even have an idea about the specifics of the ritual.

If it's usefull for someone, I could translate the whole article...
 
Advaita said:
I just read an interesting interview, with an israeli anti-circumcision aktivist, Jonathan Enosch. Sadly it's in german...
[...]
If it's usefull for someone, I could translate the whole article...

I would love for you to do the translation, Advaita, but only if you have enough time and it does not steer you away from your daily obligations. :huh:
 

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