Shijing said:
chachazoom said:
Thanks all. I will gradually let go of coffee. The rice thing is confusing. I had no idea brown rice had gluten. I guess I've been reading old recipes because the buckwheat pancakes/crepes recipe had rice milk in there. So no brown rice either? I might have to start snacking on my arm!
Yes, unfortunately the find about gluten in rice is relatively recent, so some of the older recipes which call for rice milk should be modified to exclude it. Rice contains the least amount of gluten of the grains I know about, but it's still there -- here is a chart from Gluten Free Society which gives the kind of prolamine (gluten) and percentage by grain:
Grain - Prolamine - %
Wheat - Gliadin - 69%
Corn - Zien - 55%
Sorghum - Kafirin - 52%
Barley - Hordein - 46-52%
Rye - Secalinin - 30-50%
Millet - Panicin - 40%
Oats - Avenin - 16%
Rice - Orzenin - 5%
Wow, I am astonished. In Germany you can't find information about that, everyone is saying only Gliadin is Gluten. The question is: Are those Prolamine-proteins beside Gliadin also psychoactive and function like opiates? Because I can't find any evidence for that in german-language sources. Everywhere only Gliadin is said as psychoactive. If that were true at least you would avoid the brain fog by don't eating Gliadin.
chachazoom said:
I've begun a gluten free, dairy free, almost caffeine free diet (almost because I have had a hellish headache since starting this tuesday and I had a cup today that helped temporarily but it's back) and I'm wondering about milk substitutes. I've been reading posts but recommendations change. Is rice milk ok, and which milk substitutes are best? Thanks.
I feel like crap.
Do you have psychological signs of withdrawal? When I first quit all cereals, milk, sugar, chocolate and coffee, I dreamed almost every night of eating this stuff and after 2 weeks I had to eat a little bit of them because it was just to much for me to quit all substances I was addicted to. I have never imagined, that it could be so difficult.
Maybe one thing I figured out can help you: When I began to add fish, meat and oils do my diet it was much easier and I didn't even want to drink milk, eat sugar, bread or other grain-products.
Odyssey said:
I'm just wondering what everyone is using all these various types of milk substitutes for (aside from some recipe that calls for a milky substance)? Is it some holdover or attachment to the past?
When I began this diet, I was starting to realize so much about this issue. Everyone in my environment ate "normal", which means mostly milk,cereals,chocolate,coffee and sugar. But I realized most of the things they were addicted to are milk and cereals. It becomes so obvious, when you abandon this stuff and just observe others people eating habits.
In my opinion, the consuming of milk and cereals is metaphoric for the breast milk and closeness to the mother most people don't get enough for developing properly. So, deported into the unconscious mind, this desire to get love and milk from the mother, begins to operate subliminal. This desire shows itself in the search for vicarious satisfactions. So we begin to drink milk and eat smooth puree with milk and cereals which both act the same as breast milk (it is docking on the opiate receptors). We try to get this feeling we had when being near to our mother/parents. But most of us don't get enough love, so all our live we try to go back to this place where we got this love. But we don't recognize that the Opiates can't bring us back the closeness to our mother. But at least it gives us back this snug and cosy feeling, guarded and, satisfied, there is no reason to change the bad situation in our live.
I think this is the main reason why we are attached to milk and so when quitting milk and cereals we carry on our habit to use substitutes, even there is no psychoactive effect, it is a kind of unconscious memory and it represents the desire for breast milk and closeness to the human being where we once got not enough or maybe even not a little bit deep love from.
There is another evidence for this theory: In "The Continuum Concept: In Search Of Happiness Lost" by Jean Liedloff, she points out, that people who are addicted to heroine no longer have the desire to use it, after a certain time went by. She said, that when using heroine, a person can imitate or feel the effect of the deep loving he once don't got enough from his mother. After a certain time, there is enough time, he has spend in "the continuum" (of love) their is no longer a need to take heroine, because the development is completed.
But the point is: Interestingly sugar, milk, chocolate, coffee and gluten have the same effect as heroine, they only have a much lower effect. Maybe this is the reason the world is on this food-opiates nonstop: Because the just want to feel this satisfaction and innocence because their inner core didn't got enough closeness and mothers love, so in fact they are still a child crying painful for love and acceptance. Consuming this opiate-like foods is a silent, unconscious but desperate try to escape this cruel and inhuman condition in our society. If they would quiet consuming these drugs, they maybe would realize their unbelievable sad and senseless situation.
