Gravity

I guess a few years ago I also would have enjoyed this movie more. However, the timing of the movie is suspicious concerning the context of our reality which as detailed on the Sott page and by our intrepid researchers is that fireballs and bolides have increased significantly in the last few years and comet dust and whatever is in it is being deposited in greater quantities in our atmosphere. The PTB have a vested interest in keeping us entertained and feeling good and for keeping us distracted from the real threat or the truth. In Laura's book, Comets and the Horns of Moses, she details what happens during these times of transition when comets appear in the sky and there are signs in the heavens. This movie goes into high-powered overdrive to explain away those pesky details of our reality and to provide a plausible lie that it's all just space junk. Thor's Pantheuum anyone.

Also, trotting out the Russians as the villains... again. But this too serves its propaganda purpose. Americans, and by extension many others around the world via the eye of Hollywood, remember all those years the Russians/Soviets were our enemy. The world's enemy. They were against democracy and capitalism and our way of life. Simply put, they're bad and we're good so whatever our leaders or representatives do in the non movie screen reality of the real world is fine and dandy. Except that some pretty disgusting stuff is going on in Syria right now so ratcheting up that the Russians are the bad guys in the minds of the public is reprehensible to me. I guess after viewing the propaganda set up of the movie I wasn't much in the mood for all the noble gestures. They seemed hollow and insincere.

Cubbie, I didn't mention the end of the movie but I also noticed the effort exerted to make the falling Chinese Space Station look like fireballs. That was intentional. Looked just like some of the photos and videos we've seen on these very pages that were most definitely not space junk. To me, the end was blatant cinematic propaganda, with Sandra Bullock crawling out of the primordial ooze, after having been reborn, we in the audience are in a state or mood of sympathy, primed for a message. We're empathic with all she's been through. We're in her shoes, seeing the new world through her eyes and emotions and then she looks up to see the fiery remains of the Chinese Space Station blazing through the atmosphere and thus we are implanted with the lie that fireballs are simply the wreckage of our own space satellites, vehicles and various other contraptions. Our empathy for Sandra and all she's been through is used against us to imprint that one last lie.
 
Even though I thoroughly enjoyed the movie, I had the same thought as you. Particularly where the ending scene of the burning satellite/space station Bullock was on burning through the atmosphere like a comet or meteor does. If I'm not aware, the idea is being planted there - that every meteor or fireball is now a probable space junk. :rolleyes:

Agreed.


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Pegasus: Yeah, the reaction I had was the face meme of "I see what you did there".

My friend who watched it with me, who's had a bit of exposure from Sott.net's articles of space threats, mentioned that with all the space junk available we now have to make sure all incoming debris are really that or real threats from space. I was being advised to not make a big deal out of these.. Aha! "I see what you did there, Gravity!"
 
On a similar note, just now I received "The Daily Digg" newsletter (not sure why, maybe because I used Digg in the past), and the title says "Watch Out For Falling Satellites" with the first link being the New York Times article "A Satellite Will Crash To Earth, But No One Is Sure Where." And when you go to the New York Times Science section, the first article you see is:

"More Asteroid Strikes Are Likely, Scientists Say"
_http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/07/science/space/more-large-asteroid-strikes-are-likely-scientists-find.html?ref=science
But now a team of scientists is suggesting that the Earth is vulnerable to many more Chelyabinsk-size space rocks than was previously thought. In research being published Wednesday by the journal Nature, they estimate that such strikes could occur as often as every decade or two.

Then the sattelite one:
_http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/07/science/space/satellite-will-fall-to-earth-but-no-ones-sure-where.html?ref=science
A European satellite that mapped Earth’s gravitational field in exquisite detail will be pulled down by gravity to its fiery destruction sometime in the next few days.

Where and when it will crash no one knows. It could be almost anywhere on the globe. About 25 to 45 fragments of the one-ton spacecraft are expected to survive all the way to the surface, with the largest perhaps weighing 200 pounds.

It is the latest in a parade of spacecraft falling from the sky in what are worryingly called “uncontrolled entries.” About 100 tons of debris will fall from the sky this year alone. There are, however, no known instances in which anyone has been injured by space debris.

and then also "Far-Off Planets Like the Earth Dot the Galaxy"
_http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/05/science/cosmic-census-finds-billions-of-planets-that-could-be-like-earth.html?ref=science
Astronomers reported that there could be as many as 40 billion habitable Earth-size planets in the galaxy, based on a new analysis of data from NASA’s Kepler spacecraft.

One out of every five sunlike stars in the galaxy has a planet the size of Earth circling it in the Goldilocks zone — not too hot, not too cold — where surface temperatures should be compatible with liquid water, according to a herculean three-year calculation based on data from the Kepler spacecraft by Erik Petigura, a graduate student at the University of California, Berkeley.

So, there is definitely something interesting, as in "preparation of the masses", going on.
 
The Nature news on asteroids is here: _http://www.nature.com/news/risk-of-massive-asteroid-strike-underestimated-1.14114
There is also this one to consider: _http://www.nature.com/news/russian-meteor-may-have-gangmates-in-tow-1.13498
 
Keit said:
[…] Then the sattelite one:
_http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/07/science/space/satellite-will-fall-to-earth-but-no-ones-sure-where.html?ref=science
A European satellite that mapped Earth’s gravitational field in exquisite detail will be pulled down by gravity to its fiery destruction sometime in the next few days.

Where and when it will crash no one knows. It could be almost anywhere on the globe. About 25 to 45 fragments of the one-ton spacecraft are expected to survive all the way to the surface, with the largest perhaps weighing 200 pounds.

It is the latest in a parade of spacecraft falling from the sky in what are worryingly called “uncontrolled entries.” About 100 tons of debris will fall from the sky this year alone. There are, however, no known instances in which anyone has been injured by space debris.

So, there is definitely something interesting, as in "preparation of the masses", going on.

I'll say! I couldn't give a fig about the movie other than the outrageous ending. The end is one of the worst visual propaganda (in a movie) in recent times IMO. The part in red is my emphasis & here it seems that they've covered their bases, for this year at least. But didn't one of the wave books (at the back) show the damage from meteors done to people?
 
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Thanks for posting that Shijing. Those 6.5 mins were more human and truly moving than the entire blockbuster film it underscores! Watched Gravity the other night with my 12 year old son. Visually amazing and I guess as a professional story maker I have to just grin and accept the fact that modern film leans more and more on imposed action driving character/narrative not the other way round (maybe that’s a good lesson for the days ahead!). But I did feel my BS sensors rise with every negative comment about the pesky Ruski's (did you see what a mess they left their station in, and the panic of their escape which left our all American heroine in such danger!?) Like others here I also soon became wary of the 'space debris is so dangerous viewer and these calamities will happen' cover story which smelt like Hollywood setting out the agreed line of mass programming to hide the reality of increasing cometary debris. I was also pleased that my son noticed that the final scene was a complete parody of a cometary shower. Great mass imprinting for the days ahead! But still, the film is a bit of disaster movie fun, so do enjoy for what it is worth.
 
Approaching Infinity said:
I thought it was amazing. On the surface, it's a pretty typical (but exceptional) 'lost at sea' type adventure, but set in earth orbit. But below that, it's also an great portrayal of emotional growth and recovery from loss and hardship. Great visual symbolism, and yes, Bullock does a stellar job.

I think that the movie did a great job of giving the viewer a journey through "the abyss" that put Bullock/the viewer in our (puny) place compared to the planets, solar system, and "the great beyond" in which we live. There is a "return to Eden" quality to the film as well, and a sense of awe and dread that is delivered through the scenes of Bullock flipping through space as the earth reflects on her glass visor. I remember coming out of the theater with a friend and there were twisters going off all over the city. Quite an amazing movie, to combine the horrors and amazement of being alive with such effectiveness.
 
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