Halitosis/ foul breath
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davey72
The Living Force
Re: Bad breath / foul smell from the mouth / odour from the mouth
I think it also permeates the lungs so that the smell comes out in the breath. I remember buying bad breath capsules once, and they were basically mint, and parsley. The idea being that you are infusing your lungs with it by taking it to digestion, and your breath comes out cleaner, rather then just your mouth. I imagine the oils would have also helped with digestion.
Laura said:
I think it also permeates the lungs so that the smell comes out in the breath. I remember buying bad breath capsules once, and they were basically mint, and parsley. The idea being that you are infusing your lungs with it by taking it to digestion, and your breath comes out cleaner, rather then just your mouth. I imagine the oils would have also helped with digestion.
trendsetter37
The Living Force
Re: Bad breath / foul smell from the mouth / odour from the mouth
Just to chime in Mikel, These and the other suggestions are great and you should do this (I enjoy the netti pot if I'm congested) but if the issue is being caused more due to inflammation caused by diet, this can lead to a constant post-nasal drip that drains down the back of your throat. This leads to breath issues as well as a sore throat and possibly eventually causing stomach issues.
Even if you flush everything out the symptoms will come back until that is under control. If you don't mind me asking how does the back of your throat look? Red and irritated or pink and healthy?
What would you be eliminating if you were more strict? Do you use any specific spices or seasonings? Possibly sauces or marinades? Sometimes those can get pretty tricky. OSIT.
PS. When making your ghee butter do you cook it until it doesn't simmer? I usually filter with a paper towel instead of cheesecloth (you may already do this) just to have a finer mesh barrier. I am very sensitive to dairy (as evidenced by postnasal drip and congestion in general) and consequently had to pay strict attention to how I made ghee. So maybe that could be the issue if your ghee butter is big source of fat for you. FWIW.
Odyssey said:
Just to chime in Mikel, These and the other suggestions are great and you should do this (I enjoy the netti pot if I'm congested) but if the issue is being caused more due to inflammation caused by diet, this can lead to a constant post-nasal drip that drains down the back of your throat. This leads to breath issues as well as a sore throat and possibly eventually causing stomach issues.
Even if you flush everything out the symptoms will come back until that is under control. If you don't mind me asking how does the back of your throat look? Red and irritated or pink and healthy?
Mikel said:
What would you be eliminating if you were more strict? Do you use any specific spices or seasonings? Possibly sauces or marinades? Sometimes those can get pretty tricky. OSIT.
PS. When making your ghee butter do you cook it until it doesn't simmer? I usually filter with a paper towel instead of cheesecloth (you may already do this) just to have a finer mesh barrier. I am very sensitive to dairy (as evidenced by postnasal drip and congestion in general) and consequently had to pay strict attention to how I made ghee. So maybe that could be the issue if your ghee butter is big source of fat for you. FWIW.
Re: Bad breath / foul smell from the mouth / odour from the mouth
Thank You guys for Your advises!
Trendseter37 - back of my throat looks normal and feels normal.
So I do not filter my ghee through paper towel only I pour the fat after it splits from milky thing and that's it. I try to avoid milky part in my fat so usually I just dump it to the sink together with some fat which is not possible to take without contamination.
I say that I want to eliminate some foods because from time to time I eat for example broccoli (once or twice per week), sometimes cauliflower, sometimes 2 or 3 radishes, sometimes onion (with liver or with eggs - maybe 1 per 2 weeks), garlic - now not so often but during winter almost every day. Eggs now I eat mostly yolks (fat bombs :)) but from time to time also whole eggs (now maybe once a month). Sporadically drink alcohol - last time during visit of my friends two weeks ago - once per two/three months - only pure alcohol. Sometimes use xylitol for sweetening tea - currently every two days maybe 1 tea spoon, for fat bomb bit more. Fat bombs I eat maybe 3 times a week. I use rarely pepper. For bone broth laurel, ginger, mayoran - .... hmm here I also put some veggies - carrot and root parsley.
Thanks Carlisle for link and Itellsya and Laura for another hint. Coconut oil pulling will try.
davey72, Felipe4 and Odyssey - thanks for Your opinions and input.
Thank You guys for Your advises!
Trendseter37 - back of my throat looks normal and feels normal.
So I do not filter my ghee through paper towel only I pour the fat after it splits from milky thing and that's it. I try to avoid milky part in my fat so usually I just dump it to the sink together with some fat which is not possible to take without contamination.
I say that I want to eliminate some foods because from time to time I eat for example broccoli (once or twice per week), sometimes cauliflower, sometimes 2 or 3 radishes, sometimes onion (with liver or with eggs - maybe 1 per 2 weeks), garlic - now not so often but during winter almost every day. Eggs now I eat mostly yolks (fat bombs :)) but from time to time also whole eggs (now maybe once a month). Sporadically drink alcohol - last time during visit of my friends two weeks ago - once per two/three months - only pure alcohol. Sometimes use xylitol for sweetening tea - currently every two days maybe 1 tea spoon, for fat bomb bit more. Fat bombs I eat maybe 3 times a week. I use rarely pepper. For bone broth laurel, ginger, mayoran - .... hmm here I also put some veggies - carrot and root parsley.
Thanks Carlisle for link and Itellsya and Laura for another hint. Coconut oil pulling will try.
davey72, Felipe4 and Odyssey - thanks for Your opinions and input.
Re: Bad breath / foul smell from the mouth / odour from the mouth
Alcohol is evil. Doesn't mean I don't take a taste now and then, but I know it is evil and I really have to weigh the circumstances and decide if I'm willing to pay the price. Usually, I'm not.
It was mentioned already that post-nasal drip and phlegm in the throat is a sign of consumption of something that is inflammatory or to which the body is reacting. I get this big time with quite a number of foods. Milk or any kind of cheese or other dairy proteins are the absolute worst.
Alcohol is evil. Doesn't mean I don't take a taste now and then, but I know it is evil and I really have to weigh the circumstances and decide if I'm willing to pay the price. Usually, I'm not.
It was mentioned already that post-nasal drip and phlegm in the throat is a sign of consumption of something that is inflammatory or to which the body is reacting. I get this big time with quite a number of foods. Milk or any kind of cheese or other dairy proteins are the absolute worst.
lostinself
Jedi Master
Re: Bad breath / foul smell from the mouth / odour from the mouth
I get bad breath occasionally which i think has its roots in digestion imbalances (eg. after eating when not really hungry). Do you tend to feel any digestive discomfort, like elevated acidity or something? Maybe just try to fast for a day or two and see if the smell goes away. This can show if a dietetary factor is involved.
I get bad breath occasionally which i think has its roots in digestion imbalances (eg. after eating when not really hungry). Do you tend to feel any digestive discomfort, like elevated acidity or something? Maybe just try to fast for a day or two and see if the smell goes away. This can show if a dietetary factor is involved.
Re: Bad breath / foul smell from the mouth / odour from the mouth
Having tried all the tips and if the problem persists... another possibility is a diverticulum (Zenker diverticulum) formation in the esophagus. It is infamous for causing bad breath no matter what you do or not do. FWIW!
Having tried all the tips and if the problem persists... another possibility is a diverticulum (Zenker diverticulum) formation in the esophagus. It is infamous for causing bad breath no matter what you do or not do. FWIW!
Re: Bad breath / foul smell from the mouth / odour from the mouth
A lot of times bad breath can be caused by an imbalance of bacteria, both in the mouth and the rest of the digestive tract. I would try probiotics. Some companies offer probiotic gum or lozenges (watch for evil ingredients, though). You could also start taking probiotic pills on a daily basis for the rest of the digestive tract.
A lot of times bad breath can be caused by an imbalance of bacteria, both in the mouth and the rest of the digestive tract. I would try probiotics. Some companies offer probiotic gum or lozenges (watch for evil ingredients, though). You could also start taking probiotic pills on a daily basis for the rest of the digestive tract.
NevadaCat
Padawan Learner
Re: Bad breath / foul smell from the mouth / odour from the mouth
If it's digestion issues causing the bad breath (could be lack of HCL/stomach acid or insufficient bile production?), you might want to try digestive bitters either before or after meals. Traditional practice in many places and bitters are available in stores. They are fairly easy to make if you have dandelions and other plants like yellow dock. I just made a batch this Spring. Helps with skin problems and indigestion and bad breath by stimulating bile flow.
If it's digestion issues causing the bad breath (could be lack of HCL/stomach acid or insufficient bile production?), you might want to try digestive bitters either before or after meals. Traditional practice in many places and bitters are available in stores. They are fairly easy to make if you have dandelions and other plants like yellow dock. I just made a batch this Spring. Helps with skin problems and indigestion and bad breath by stimulating bile flow.
Re: Bad breath / foul smell from the mouth / odour from the mouth
She also recommends grapefruit seed extract for dealing with the halitosis. (A few drops in water can make a mouthwash solution to swish and gargle.)
Laura said:
She also recommends grapefruit seed extract for dealing with the halitosis. (A few drops in water can make a mouthwash solution to swish and gargle.)
Vic
Jedi Council Member
Re: Bad breath / foul smell from the mouth / odour from the mouth
Oh yes, Laura. Alcohol is evil, which is precisely why they made it part our culture. Alcohol has played a massive part in my life. For the last 13 years I haven't been a 'drunk,' as I was previously to that. But it's still there. I go weeks without taking a drink. And when I do it's low alcohol. But even low alcohol alters my perception, thoughts and behaviour.
Believe it or not, on those rare occasions that I indulge, I have no more than five cans of 3.5 alcohol beer. The next day, and the one after, the world is a very dark place, and I feel powerless. When it clears the world lightens and I feel powerful again. The power, as I perceive it, is control of what I think and do, and a belief that the human race can win through against the STS onslaught.
Bloody alcohol. But I suppose if it wasn't alcohol it would be something else.
Thanks for that gem of communication.
Laura said:
Oh yes, Laura. Alcohol is evil, which is precisely why they made it part our culture. Alcohol has played a massive part in my life. For the last 13 years I haven't been a 'drunk,' as I was previously to that. But it's still there. I go weeks without taking a drink. And when I do it's low alcohol. But even low alcohol alters my perception, thoughts and behaviour.
Believe it or not, on those rare occasions that I indulge, I have no more than five cans of 3.5 alcohol beer. The next day, and the one after, the world is a very dark place, and I feel powerless. When it clears the world lightens and I feel powerful again. The power, as I perceive it, is control of what I think and do, and a belief that the human race can win through against the STS onslaught.
Bloody alcohol. But I suppose if it wasn't alcohol it would be something else.
Thanks for that gem of communication.
Tracy Anne
Jedi Master
Re: Bad breath / foul smell from the mouth / odour from the mouth
Mikel since completely giving up alcohol over a year ago I have no more sinus trouble.....I never realised how good life could be without it.....in many ways!
I also use the inter dental brushes which are a little piece of wire, coated in small bristles, which you slide in between your teeth to get the bacteria out. This would be a cheaper option than buying a Dental Pik initially. My dentist advised me that they are much better than floss which only partially removes the bacteria and this I have proven as I have no sign on bleeding gums now, but always did when using floss. The inter dental brushes come is various sizes depending on the space between your teeth. I then rinse my mouth with saline (pinch of salt in half a glass of water) afterwards.
As Laura stated it could be a sign that you are detoxing....this is known as 'keto breath' but more likely, when in this state, the odor is a 'fruity' smell and this is not the case with you! This is well known in people with diabetes when they too go into ketosis, however for them it means that their diabetes is not being managed well......another story!
Since I am preparing for transitioning onto keto I have had no experience so others may like to add to this post.
Mikel since completely giving up alcohol over a year ago I have no more sinus trouble.....I never realised how good life could be without it.....in many ways!
I also use the inter dental brushes which are a little piece of wire, coated in small bristles, which you slide in between your teeth to get the bacteria out. This would be a cheaper option than buying a Dental Pik initially. My dentist advised me that they are much better than floss which only partially removes the bacteria and this I have proven as I have no sign on bleeding gums now, but always did when using floss. The inter dental brushes come is various sizes depending on the space between your teeth. I then rinse my mouth with saline (pinch of salt in half a glass of water) afterwards.
As Laura stated it could be a sign that you are detoxing....this is known as 'keto breath' but more likely, when in this state, the odor is a 'fruity' smell and this is not the case with you! This is well known in people with diabetes when they too go into ketosis, however for them it means that their diabetes is not being managed well......another story!
Since I am preparing for transitioning onto keto I have had no experience so others may like to add to this post.