Has anyone else experienced a complete shift in reality mechanics from STS to STO protocol?

[Chrístofir]

Hello there, Peter Jennings - Welcome here and pleased to meet you!

A very interesting thread indeed - thanks for initiating it, and for having the courage of sharing yourself to Others so openly.

Just leaving a few thoughts of reflections here. They are in no way revolutionary.

You wrote in a previous post: "At any rate, my whole purpose was to look for anyone who has experienced this same thing I'm describing, or something similar. If you're saying that you have, I'd be very interested to hear what your experience is like."

What will you do when you find the person mirroring your experience in a way you'll find satisfactory? Explode into a "Heureka"-moment, or will you be feeling "validated"?

You seem to be an astute observer, also considering your poker player background, where you have trusted your attention skills. This is also the playground of manipulation. Manipulation requires attention, and to be attentive to the self-serving details, as well as being able to be attentive to the larger picture of things, like contexts, and also to be able to put things into the proper perspective serving the purpose of the situation at hand.

Thus your self-observation and the circumstances you describe have served you as a teaching part of the greater Soul learning path in your life.

You come from an attitude of being in control, which is a lesson in itself. You have studied this. Then you begin experiencing its opposite, the not-being-in-control, which is still part of the lesson. It is looking like the "next step" of the lesson. Now, study this further, because there is a lot more to this than meets the eye, which I believe much of the feedback you have gotten here, is reflecting.

Have you given the reason why you incarnated a thought? What are your lessons? It seems to me you are experiencing a Great lesson taught to give you perspective, thus offering you a choice on how to proceed in your life.

You seem to be in the process of possibly transforming these attention skills of yours. And Free Will is there to allow you to make a choice how to go about the implementation of your insights. You have grown Awareness in this area, and now Knowledge is what is being born out of this.

All according to your chosen path - which you chose using Free Will (nobody did it for you, whether you believe that or not).

These skills of yours can be very useful to Others, if you should learn more about Purpose, and how to put these skills to work for Others.

To be able to find someone who corresponds to your experience in a way you may yourself recognise, you must find someone on the same experiential path.

But what will you learn from someone who is just mirroring yourself in a way only you could acknowledge?

In this thread you have already met several other souls mirroring you, in one way or other. Did you recognise yourself in any of them? Did something provoke you? Leave you frustrated that "nobody seems to get me"?

Because from my own experience, and particularly with clients, what you essentially describe is what many experience on their paths, but in their own ways, and in their own contexts, all according to their chosen paths and level of Awareness.

There is really nothing unique about it. It's just the common progression of things. Still it is important to raise the issue, and in the way you did, because it is something that many do experience, but do not respond to, reflect on - or come to understand or analyse - in the same ways.

All according to their paths.

You wrote somewhere in a post: "Happy to go deeper into it if that’s of interest. But I’d also really like to hear what your experience has been, especially if you’re seeing this same pattern."

Also, what you are describing seems to me, in my own experience, when Ego is beginning to consciously experiencing itself, reflected in your interactions with Life (what you give to Life), thus showing you your Higher calling (your lessons here, your soul plan), which becomes more apparent to you now (compared to before), in your very actions. Our minds are the most powerful thing we are, and as live parts of the Cosmic Mind, we constantly interact, but we do respond differently to this interaction, depending on who we are and what we see.

After all, we are not here on Earth only to play poker, and get stuck in repetitive behavioural patterns and fixed notions of Existence!

That is just a part of our Adventure here! Learning is fun!

The Cosmic Mind is always offering us a Higher game to play! (For whom will you play it?)

Thank You!

 

[Peter Jennings]

Peter, It seems to me that you are here to teach everything you know without leaving room for what you could learn. I understand you have shown some of your qualities, like being a good writer, for instance, but I have the impression that all you know about everything is the truth and that's all, not leaving much room for doubts whether what you take for granted is indeed a fact.

Hi Jhonny,

I don’t claim to have the whole picture, I'm just mapping conclusions I've come to. When I share it plainly, either it stands or someone shows me what I’ve missed, and that’s progress.

If you spot blind spots or contradictions, point them out; I’m here to test ideas, not defend them. Appreciate the compliment.

 

[Peter Jennings]

Yeah, the idea that non-anticipation can be used by the Predator Mind to 'get what we want' - thus turning non-anticipation into anticipation of a more subtle kind - has been addressed in this session:

Session 11 August 1996​

I think what you've been posting about so far is described by the Taoists as wu-wei, or doing/not-doing. There's also the Sufi practice of using our selfishness for selfless ends. And also the advaita vedanta notion that we can use the mind to stop the mind, thus revealing the Mind. McGilchrist has also written about the balance of the left and right hemispheres. Anyways, a lot has been written about this for ages, and most of the authors conclude that there is actually no contradiction between having an aim and non-anticipation. They work together like two hands.



Reality adjusts itself to our perception. That's the basics of quantum physics. Laura wrote about it here in depth:

Hi, I feel we are on very similar wavelengths.

I recognize the parallels to wu wei and non-dual traditions, and I appreciate that you're connecting those threads. But where I'm focusing is how the feedback from the field shifts dynamically as awareness increases, and how even the subtlest embedded aim starts to trigger distortion once seen. Most prior frameworks don’t seem to go that far. They outline the value of surrender, but they don’t explain why the same behaviors stop working once clarity deepens.

Also, you seem pretty sharp so I would pose this question to you:

If I did not experience a "reality protocol shift to STO", then why is it that in the past, manipulative STS behaviors would consistently provide me with excellent results, and the more I've increased my awareness, the field instead seems to have shifted towards favoring pure STO principles. For example, it's not even that I can have outward facing congruence, it must now be inward facing. Also that it has pushed me to stricken all manipulation to get anything no matter how miniscule, as if to say, "if you want STO, you must operate as STO does, from wholeness, from congruence, from pure coherence with truth."

This, among a few other specific questions, is what is calling for an answer.

 

[Peter Jennings]

Peter Jennings, one of the things that stands out for me in your opening post is your use of absolutes. For example:



To get an idea of what I'm driving at, check out the first page of the Cass website where the Cassiopaean Experiment is introduced and in particular where reductio ad absurdum is discussed.

How did you manage to take care of the basics of life if none of your approaches worked anymore? I mean, could you still manage to get yourself a drink of water if you were thirsty?

Hi Jones,

I never said I became incapable of drinking water or brushing my teeth. That all sorta seems like you're intentionally misinterterpreting what I said. What I actually said was that the levers I used to pull, things like intentional strategies, expressions of will, formerly reliable forms of engagement, that all those things stopped yielding favorable results.


If your takeaway from that is “he couldn’t even get a glass of water,” then you’re not misunderstanding me, you’re deliberately distorting what I said to make it easier to dismiss. That’s not analysis, that’s baiting. If you want to actually engage with what I am tryng to discuss, I’m open to that. But if you’re just here to misframe and ridicule, then either just ignore the thread or at least own it.

 

[Peter Jennings]

Are you familiar with the work of Vadim Zeland?

Of course. I certainly have read it a couple of times actually. Zeland thinks reality is "hackable". Maybe from his frame it is. From mine, I have certainty that it cannot be manipulated in the slightest. Maybe you can manipulate it from your angle, but from mine, it's impossible.

 

[Peter Jennings]

Hello there, Peter Jennings - Welcome here and pleased to meet you!

A very interesting thread indeed - thanks for initiating it, and for having the courage of sharing yourself to Others so openly.

Just leaving a few thoughts of reflections here. They are in no way revolutionary.

You wrote in a previous post: "At any rate, my whole purpose was to look for anyone who has experienced this same thing I'm describing, or something similar. If you're saying that you have, I'd be very interested to hear what your experience is like."

What will you do when you find the person mirroring your experience in a way you'll find satisfactory? Explode into a "Heureka"-moment, or will you be feeling "validated"?

You seem to be an astute observer, also considering your poker player background, where you have trusted your attention skills. This is also the playground of manipulation. Manipulation requires attention, and to be attentive to the self-serving details, as well as being able to be attentive to the larger picture of things, like contexts, and also to be able to put things into the proper perspective serving the purpose of the situation at hand.

Thus your self-observation and the circumstances you describe have served you as a teaching part of the greater Soul learning path in your life.

You come from an attitude of being in control, which is a lesson in itself. You have studied this. Then you begin experiencing its opposite, the not-being-in-control, which is still part of the lesson. It is looking like the "next step" of the lesson. Now, study this further, because there is a lot more to this than meets the eye, which I believe much of the feedback you have gotten here, is reflecting.

Have you given the reason why you incarnated a thought? What are your lessons? It seems to me you are experiencing a Great lesson taught to give you perspective, thus offering you a choice on how to proceed in your life.

You seem to be in the process of possibly transforming these attention skills of yours. And Free Will is there to allow you to make a choice how to go about the implementation of your insights. You have grown Awareness in this area, and now Knowledge is what is being born out of this.

All according to your chosen path - which you chose using Free Will (nobody did it for you, whether you believe that or not).

These skills of yours can be very useful to Others, if you should learn more about Purpose, and how to put these skills to work for Others.

To be able to find someone who corresponds to your experience in a way you may yourself recognise, you must find someone on the same experiential path.

But what will you learn from someone who is just mirroring yourself in a way only you could acknowledge?

In this thread you have already met several other souls mirroring you, in one way or other. Did you recognise yourself in any of them? Did something provoke you? Leave you frustrated that "nobody seems to get me"?

Because from my own experience, and particularly with clients, what you essentially describe is what many experience on their paths, but in their own ways, and in their own contexts, all according to their chosen paths and level of Awareness.

There is really nothing unique about it. It's just the common progression of things. Still it is important to raise the issue, and in the way you did, because it is something that many do experience, but do not respond to, reflect on - or come to understand or analyse - in the same ways.

All according to their paths.

You wrote somewhere in a post: "Happy to go deeper into it if that’s of interest. But I’d also really like to hear what your experience has been, especially if you’re seeing this same pattern."

Also, what you are describing seems to me, in my own experience, when Ego is beginning to consciously experiencing itself, reflected in your interactions with Life (what you give to Life), thus showing you your Higher calling (your lessons here, your soul plan), which becomes more apparent to you now (compared to before), in your very actions. Our minds are the most powerful thing we are, and as live parts of the Cosmic Mind, we constantly interact, but we do respond differently to this interaction, depending on who we are and what we see.

After all, we are not here on Earth only to play poker, and get stuck in repetitive behavioural patterns and fixed notions of Existence!

That is just a part of our Adventure here! Learning is fun!

The Cosmic Mind is always offering us a Higher game to play! (For whom will you play it?)

Thank You!

This will be the last time I respond to any attempt to reframe my language as validation-seeking or ego-driven. This kind of response doesn’t reflect honest engagement, it’s a soft dominance play wrapped in a plausibly deniable spiritual tone.

You didn’t engage with a single structural point I raised. Instead, you sidestepped the content entirely and layered condescension beneath polite phrasing.

If anyone is interested in the structural points I have been discussing, I will respond, to anyone else playing these status games, I have nothing else to say.

 

[iamthatis]

Hi, I feel we are on very similar wavelengths.

I recognize the parallels to wu wei and non-dual traditions, and I appreciate that you're connecting those threads. But where I'm focusing is how the feedback from the field shifts dynamicallyas awareness increases, and how even the subtlest embedded aim starts to trigger distortion once seen. Most prior frameworks don’t seem to go that far. They outline the value of surrender, but they don’t explain why the same behaviors stop working once clarity deepens.

Also, you seem pretty sharp so I would pose this question to you:

If I did not experience a "reality protocol shift to STO", then why is it that in the past, manipulative STS behaviors would consistently provide me with excellent results, and the more I've increased my awareness, the field instead seems to have shifted towards favoring pure STO principles.

For example, it's not even that I can have outward facing congruence, it must now be inward facing. Also that it has pushed me to stricken all manipulation to get anything no matter how miniscule, as if to say, "if you want STO, you must operate as STO does, from wholeness, from congruence, from pure coherence with truth."

This, among a few other specific questions, is what is calling for an answer.

Though each tradition is diverse, different in its language and focus, I think those Eastern frameworks, as well as Western thought like Apostle Paul or the Fourth Way material, Jordan Peterson, etc., do describe an increasing alignment with the truth, the Light, or the Creator, as increasing real change in Being. And in dynamic ways. For me, this was well described in the C's discussion of building the antennae, creating a conduit, etc., or Laura's videos in her Course in Knowledge and Being series on YouTube. Aside from that, EEQT provides a framework for why the field shifts dynamically in response to increases in awareness as I mentioned above.

There's nothing special about all this in my opinion - it's just called learning. I don't do most of the stuff I used to do, not necessarily because it no longer works, but because it was sad, disgusting, or harmful.

There are many paths up the mountain, and your change seems to be catalyzed by a utilitarian analysis - 'it no longer works'. Fair enough. And now it sounds like you're trying to understand the mechanics of that. I would surmise that it worked for a while because you were part of the STS feeding hierarchy as described by Michael Topper. The masters of darkness are always rewarding people for their selfishness. Just look at billionaire oligarchs.

Now it doesn't work. That's cool, it's probably good for you. Why doesn't it work? Who knows. I could list any number of possibilities. With some things in life, there is no left-brain explanation, just that 'it was time'. As such, along with trying to understand the exact mechanics of your change would probably be well attenuated with just accepting that you don't know.

About seeing the smallest aim as triggering distortion, I would put the question to you - how do you know that this notion isn't coming from your Predator Mind? It's quite common for STS forces to generate spiritual breakthroughs - as Castaneda wrote, they generate flares of awareness in order to feed on that Light. Demons often masquerade as angels. Check out the book Masquerade of Angels for a particularly chilling account of that. Anyways, the point is that we do not know our own mind. So subjecting our thoughts and experiences - especially significantly positive ones - to scrutiny, is the only way to prevent us from falling prey to this. And accepting feedback from a network of others is the only way from preventing a spiritual realization from turning into a self-important, solipsistic trap.

On that note, you write that you went from selfish aims, and now you are considering pure, selfless aimlessness. A totalizing swing to the opposite is a common psychological response. I recognize that some people need to just hanging out in Being for a while. But this can also be an indication of black-and-white thinking, either/or thinking. I already raised this issue in your 'diet doesn't matter' idea. IMO, this will be a key issue for you to pay attention to in the future, as a hallmark of STO is to respond in a balanced way, and at least in this case, there's some degree of unbalanced thinking by way of strong identification with your own perspective.

And before you say, 'I don't want to talk about that' - then I suggest you put your newfound STO perspective to the test and let go of control of the conversation.

 

[Kika]

Are you familiar with the work of Vadim Zeland?

Of course. I certainly have read it a couple of times actually.

OK Peter, now we're starting to talk.

I'm playing with open cards, so here it is;
Reading your initial post, I got a strong "taste" of Transurfing.

As my late grandmother used to say (literal translation) "Thinking is shit to know" or an opinion created without facts is not knowledge, and Cass. keeps repeating; "all you have to do is ask", I asked.

Now the fact is that you are familiar with Transurfing and the inner and outer intention.

For reference, this realization I'm about to explain, I literally only just arrived to very recently, however, what I am attempting to explain is that, all those tactics I used to use, they all stopped working around two to three years ago. Not just partially, but entirely. None of those approaches worked anymore, no matter how well-executed, and I experienced the most bizarre string of events where it just appeared to me as if my entire life had come to a halt and I could no longer make anything happen at all in my favor.

Question no.2
Could you place your activities (quoted, which served you well and then "broken" and stopped functioning) in Transurfing techniques?

 

[Seato]

I think you bring up some interesting ideas. It seems conceivable that the field, frequency of reality may be changing in such a way to disadvantage STS modes of being in some way. The Wave is intended to bring balance and level the playing after all. Even reality shifting slightly in levels of STS to STO would amount to a disadvantage to STS influence relative to their previous position, even if still overwhelmingly high.

Imagine theoretically a reality is 99% STS – 1% STO dominated and shifts by even a single percent to 98% STS- 2% STO. In the context of an entire reality that is a tremendous difference, at least from the perspective of someone wanting to control it. Personally, I hope the state of our reality is a bit more positive than this, but you get the point. Coincidently I believe at least 99% STS polarity is required for a being to transition to 4D STS.

Over the course of the covid pandemic and following vaccination campaign I recall it was observed that quite a few personalities who were openly extremely hostile to the unvaccinated happened to die afterwards or suffer adverse reactions. Though it was hardly a rule it was common enough to trigger some level of discussion on the forum. Maybe demonstrating the lethality of the vaccinations or perhaps as some suggested a form of karmic feedback loop increasing the chances of a adverse reaction to some negatively orientated individuals, in addition to genetic and other factors. Even on a basic level we know that knowledge protects so inherently anyone fully believing in the jabs its effectiveness will be more vulnerable to some degree.

I am thinking about this karma as it may perhaps relate to hyperkinetic sensate of the wave.

Q: (L) You once said that the wave was something like "hyperkinetic sensate". And I've often wondered if that means that it's something that massively amplifies whatever is inside an individual? And if that were the case and they were full of a lot of unpleasant, painful, miserable feelings, repressed and suppressed thoughts and so forth, and something that was hyperkinetic sensate amplified all of that, what would it do to that individual? I mean, can you imagine any of us in our worst state of feeling yucky and then having that amplified a bazillion times? If it was bad stuff inside you, you would implode!

A: Soul smashing!

Q: (L) So it is really important for people to go through this process of cleansing to prepare themselves for that?

A: Yes, then they will "rise up with wings as eagles"!

Q: (L) So even people who - or maybe particularly people who - engage in a great deal of what Lobaczewski called "selection and substitution", there is some part of their rational mind that knows what the truth is, but because it's not acceptable to their peer group, or their social milieu, or their background and upbringing to accept that truth, they repress and suppress it and explain things to themselves in other ways. But they still know the truth. What would it be like if you have all of this suppressed, twisted truth locked up inside you that you never allowed yourself to look at and acknowledge?

(Ark) But you see this is not a separate phenomenon because when there is this amplification, there are these fears that you said, they will also explode. So the individual will be able to... the little devil will become the big devil, so it will be easier to choose, because, you know, choices will be amplified. It's not just little dark here, little this there - it's hard to choose - but they will have to decide this time where to go, and the decision will be...

(L) Extremely painful.

(Ark) It will be painful, but on the other hand, it will be clear.

(C******) But what if you're so overwhelmed it isn't clear?

(L) What if your fear is so big that...

(C******) You're blinded?

(Ark) Well, then you are lost.

(L) I mean, people that believe lies against all evidence are the ones that really baffle me. I mean, they don't baffle me in the sense that I don't understand why they do it, because I understand the psychological and brain mechanism, and I understand that's it been thousands of years, little by little, gradually, pathologically encroaching until now we live in this world where it's just literally -everything is dirty - it's just really horrible. And I can't imagine what... I mean, what about a psychopath? What about a psychopath who doesn't have emotions? How is a hyperkinetic sensate {wave} going to affect a psychopath?

A: They do have a sort of "emotion". Hunger for darkness.

Q: (L) So what it is an amplified hunger for darkness?

(A******) More darkness.

(L) But what would it do if it were amplified in that way?

(Allen) Ravenous!

(L) They'd devour themselves, wouldn't they?

A: More or less. What do you do when at your center there is a big empty hole?

Q: (Ark) But I can see how it's gonna happen. You see separately, there are these psychopaths. At the same time, there are a lot of people who are becoming very unstable. There are a lot of people who go completely crazy, that psychopaths can see something is happening - new opportunity, right? So, new victims. "They're mine!" "No, they're MINE!" And so psychopaths will start to fight with each other.

(L) Because they're more and more hungry. And then their masks will fall away, and people will see them for what they are.

A: Yes

The amplification of everything inside a person, where ‘choices will be amplified’. If negative STS actions are being amplified in effect might that not also accelerate the flow of karmic forces in response? Under this scenario in our perception of time would karmic energies impact those responsible far sooner than normal? The above discussion within the session already highlights that psychopaths amplification will make their evil ever more apparent and consequently resistance against it.

The further a STS aligned being is from the personal negative consequences of their actions the easier it will be for them to continue them unimpeded. It’s likely that if the PTB were completely open about their trafficking and abuse they commit there would be a very swift and immediate violent and angry response by a great many people. Instead, they make effort to hide it and so are more easily able to continue their behaviour.

If the waves hyperkinetic sensate naturally acted to bring these negative consequences to bear sooner on those responsible it would hamper their ability to continue these actions. This would not necessarily affect their personal nature, in fact they are more likely to act more desperately and overtly bringing more attention and negative consequences to bear against themselves. So this process may cause STS actions to require more energy and effort to achieve the same results that were previously possible.

Not to mention if you are immediately met with the negative consequences of your actions, it hampers your ability to pursue them effectively. As heavily exaggerated example of this may be observed in Slideshow Bob’s comedic struggles to murder Bart Simpson.

Not to take this clip too seriously but, if he had paused a moment to observe reality he might have avoided considerable pain. Which takes us to the other side of the spectrum with STO which seeks to act in accordance with objective reality, to do which it must seek to observe and understand it as it truly is. Peoples efforts to openly give and help one another compound to strengthen STO polarization. Which by way of STO seeking to observe things as they are, can then increasingly choose to not follow the path of STS whilst being increasingly aware of it.

Choice and free will is important to the 4D STS control mechanism. The C’s have suggested that in the July 13th 2024 assassination attempt he was in part saved by divine intervention powered by mass prayers.

(Joe) And they talked about program change upcoming. This was like in maybe February or March. They said it was in a timescale of months. Was that [Trump's assassination attempt] the anticipated program change, and it got subverted? Or is the program change still to come?

A: Program had to be changed to avoid mass violation of free will.

Q: (Joe) So the program was the planned assassination of Trump?

A: Yes.

Q: (Joe) And... but it was changed to avoid mass violation of free will. And who made the decision to change the program?

A: Quorum.

Q: (Joe) Right. So they had a good think about it, and thought it was a bad idea.

A: Violations of free will on that scale are similar to violations of gravity in your realm.

Q: (Niall) It's like trying to break a natural law, or something. It's too much.

(L) Yeah, if you jump off the roof and you think you're not going to get hurt, that's violating gravity.

(Joe) So it was strange that such smart people in the Quorum would have not realized that that was a bad idea from the get go.

(L) Well, I don't think they expected so many people to be praying for Trump, and to be supporting him.

(Joe) Yes. Because that suggests that they didn't change it, because it was Trump that prevented his own assassination.

(L) Yeah. In a sense.

(Joe) They still intended to assassinate him. So they didn't change the program. The program was changed by other forces linked to Trump's higher self or whatever.

(L) Yeah. But it still is woven together.

(Joe) It is divine intervention, like they said.

(L) Yeah.

So it was not necessarily beyond 4D STS capabilities to make the assassination a success but, doing so against the free will of so many would have had major energetic consequences.

In this we can perhaps see that if enough people recognize some pieces of the truth of our reality and act accordingly it can create a form of resistance to STS manipulations. If the unseen hand of 4D STS is faced with this barrier they may be faced with the choice of directing their energies more conservatively in a calculated manner or outright give their all with reckless abandonment and risk burning out. A bit akin to how in our reality the well of American support is drying up for Ukraine given its failures and overall terrible position, perhaps 4d STS forces may be scaling back support for systems and 3D assets that they intend to soon replace anyway.

This forum is meant to act as an environment to develop STO alignment. As we try and help one another act in accordance with STO principles and understanding them and the world around us. Thus, the forum is not focused on development and personal conducting of STS manipulation technics to alter reality in our favour. Given this if we want to assess the likelihood of the possibility of this hypothesis it would be best to observe it through the actions of heavily STS orientated individuals such as psychopaths and their current success rate.

Q: (PopHistorian) On a scale of 1-10, how well are the plans of the powers that be succeeding right now?

A: Depends on who you think you are referring to. Current "elites" are not doing so well. But the quorum is doing quite well.

Q: (L) And the quorum was the one that was in charge of deciding that Trump would not be assassinated, was that correct?

(Joe) Would be assassinated and then had to change their plans...

(L) And to change their plan because they were, because there were imbalances of some sort. So... They're up to something!

A: Yes

If we reduce STO and STS a moment to the idea of light (knowledge) and darkness. A brighter light is easier to see, encourages people to approach for warmth and protection. The darkness in the face of this light finds it ever more difficult to conceal it from those whose souls yearn for it and, in the illumination of which the ravenous entropic nature of the darkness is ever more apparent.

My point being that I consider it to be possible that STS manipulation technics conducted within the reality in which we currently exist may becoming less effective on a fundamental/hyperdimensional level in accordance with the wave and growing awareness.

 

[Jones]

Hi Jones,

I never said I became incapable of drinking water or brushing my teeth. That all sorta seems like you're intentionally misinterterpreting what I said. What I actually said was that the levers I used to pull, things like intentional strategies, expressions of will, formerly reliable forms of engagement, that all those things stopped yielding favorable results.


If your takeaway from that is “he couldn’t even get a glass of water,” then you’re not misunderstanding me, you’re deliberately distorting what I said to make it easier to dismiss. That’s not analysis, that’s baiting. If you want to actually engage with what I am tryng to discuss, I’m open to that. But if you’re just here to misframe and ridicule, then either just ignore the thread or at least own it.

Hardly. I was responding to this:

If you want to challenge the actual mechanics I described, I'd engage with you on that.

Thinking in absolutes can be problematic. Most things are usually more complex and nuanced.

 

[gc8]

Seems to me some people in this thread are unknowingly training an AI.

Or, know this already and probing it.

 

[Peter Jennings]

OK Peter, now we're starting to talk.

I'm playing with open cards, so here it is;
Reading your initial post, I got a strong "taste" of Transurfing.

As my late grandmother used to say (literal translation) "Thinking is shit to know" or an opinion created without facts is not knowledge, and Cass. keeps repeating; "all you have to do is ask", I asked.

Now the fact is that you are familiar with Transurfing and the inner and outer intention.


Question no.2
Could you place your activities (quoted, which served you well and then "broken" and stopped functioning) in Transurfing techniques?

Transurfing is like an STS-coded manifestation manual. I pointed out in previous posts that outward facing congruence is not the same as inward congruence and outer congruence matching. STS manifestation is like a "fake it til you make it", which is what I mean when I say "outward congruence".

Transurfing teaches to leverage STO concepts like surrender in order to manipulate reality for personal gain. It is that "in order to..." that differentiates transfurfing from what I am saying. Transurfing literally does not work for me at all. Only inner alignment and congruence matching outward action and ZERO striving to get anything; that is what works in my current reality.

If you're manifesting in order to try to get something, it's not based in truth, it's just an STS manipulation.

 

[Peter Jennings]

I think you bring up some interesting ideas. It seems conceivable that the field, frequency of reality may be changing in such a way to disadvantage STS modes of being in some way. The Wave is intended to bring balance and level the playing after all. Even reality shifting slightly in levels of STS to STO would amount to a disadvantage to STS influence relative to their previous position, even if still overwhelmingly high.

Imagine theoretically a reality is 99% STS – 1% STO dominated and shifts by even a single percent to 98% STS- 2% STO. In the context of an entire reality that is a tremendous difference, at least from the perspective of someone wanting to control it. Personally, I hope the state of our reality is a bit more positive than this, but you get the point. Coincidently I believe at least 99% STS polarity is required for a being to transition to 4D STS.

Over the course of the covid pandemic and following vaccination campaign I recall it was observed that quite a few personalities who were openly extremely hostile to the unvaccinated happened to die afterwards or suffer adverse reactions. Though it was hardly a rule it was common enough to trigger some level of discussion on the forum. Maybe demonstrating the lethality of the vaccinations or perhaps as some suggested a form of karmic feedback loop increasing the chances of a adverse reaction to some negatively orientated individuals, in addition to genetic and other factors. Even on a basic level we know that knowledge protects so inherently anyone fully believing in the jabs its effectiveness will be more vulnerable to some degree.

I am thinking about this karma as it may perhaps relate to hyperkinetic sensate of the wave.



The amplification of everything inside a person, where ‘choices will be amplified’. If negative STS actions are being amplified in effect might that not also accelerate the flow of karmic forces in response? Under this scenario in our perception of time would karmic energies impact those responsible far sooner than normal? The above discussion within the session already highlights that psychopaths amplification will make their evil ever more apparent and consequently resistance against it.

The further a STS aligned being is from the personal negative consequences of their actions the easier it will be for them to continue them unimpeded. It’s likely that if the PTB were completely open about their trafficking and abuse they commit there would be a very swift and immediate violent and angry response by a great many people. Instead, they make effort to hide it and so are more easily able to continue their behaviour.

If the waves hyperkinetic sensate naturally acted to bring these negative consequences to bear sooner on those responsible it would hamper their ability to continue these actions. This would not necessarily affect their personal nature, in fact they are more likely to act more desperately and overtly bringing more attention and negative consequences to bear against themselves. So this process may cause STS actions to require more energy and effort to achieve the same results that were previously possible.

Not to mention if you are immediately met with the negative consequences of your actions, it hampers your ability to pursue them effectively. As heavily exaggerated example of this may be observed in Slideshow Bob’s comedic struggles to murder Bart Simpson.

Not to take this clip too seriously but, if he had paused a moment to observe reality he might have avoided considerable pain. Which takes us to the other side of the spectrum with STO which seeks to act in accordance with objective reality, to do which it must seek to observe and understand it as it truly is. Peoples efforts to openly give and help one another compound to strengthen STO polarization. Which by way of STO seeking to observe things as they are, can then increasingly choose to not follow the path of STS whilst being increasingly aware of it.

Choice and free will is important to the 4D STS control mechanism. The C’s have suggested that in the July 13th 2024 assassination attempt he was in part saved by divine intervention powered by mass prayers.



So it was not necessarily beyond 4D STS capabilities to make the assassination a success but, doing so against the free will of so many would have had major energetic consequences.

In this we can perhaps see that if enough people recognize some pieces of the truth of our reality and act accordingly it can create a form of resistance to STS manipulations. If the unseen hand of 4D STS is faced with this barrier they may be faced with the choice of directing their energies more conservatively in a calculated manner or outright give their all with reckless abandonment and risk burning out. A bit akin to how in our reality the well of American support is drying up for Ukraine given its failures and overall terrible position, perhaps 4d STS forces may be scaling back support for systems and 3D assets that they intend to soon replace anyway.

This forum is meant to act as an environment to develop STO alignment. As we try and help one another act in accordance with STO principles and understanding them and the world around us. Thus, the forum is not focused on development and personal conducting of STS manipulation technics to alter reality in our favour. Given this if we want to assess the likelihood of the possibility of this hypothesis it would be best to observe it through the actions of heavily STS orientated individuals such as psychopaths and their current success rate.



If we reduce STO and STS a moment to the idea of light (knowledge) and darkness. A brighter light is easier to see, encourages people to approach for warmth and protection. The darkness in the face of this light finds it ever more difficult to conceal it from those whose souls yearn for it and, in the illumination of which the ravenous entropic nature of the darkness is ever more apparent.

My point being that I consider it to be possible that STS manipulation technics conducted within the reality in which we currently exist may becoming less effective on a fundamental/hyperdimensional level in accordance with the wave and growing awareness.

Thanks for the comment but I believe we're fundamentally describing two very different things.

I'm not speculating about field level shifts based on Cass material. I’m describing what I've observed as a direct, personal transition where strategizing to gain now collapses my personal experience of reality rather than shaping it. It’s no longer about manipulating outer circumstances, but embodying inner alignment with no angle.

And just to clarify, when I say "manipulating to gain", an example of what I mean could be, recommending a product or service to someone not because it’s truly the right fit for them, but because I want the commission or referral fee. The words may be honest on the surface, but the intent is engineered to cause a financial gain. That’s what I mean by manipulation. Acting with any angle at all to gain, that is what now does not cause any favorable outcome.

I presume the vast majority of people do not have this happening to them primarily because most people seem to go through life not questioning things that deeply, or accepting "well maybe I just can't know", or "I'm not intelligent enough to figure it out". I don't accept any of that which may have something to do with why this has happened to me but I really still am trying to unpeel the layers.

I do appreciate anyone who does have some insight into what I have been describing.

 

[Peter Jennings]

Hardly. I was responding to this:


Thinking in absolutes can be problematic. Most things are usually more complex and nuanced.

So you've cherrypicked one or two sentences and taken them completely out of context in order to make some sort of value judgment about me or assertion to point out my flaws.

Doing that instead of either just ignoring me, or actually engaging with the ideas I'm discussing, is a bit baffling.

 

[Fluffy]

Seems to me some people in this thread are unknowingly training an AI.

Or, know this already and probing it.

Interesting, what in particular makes you think that?

I don’t think so but would like to see your observations.

What I think is that some arrive with predetermined ‘case in point’ that they want to share, aren’t necessarily interested in joining the ‘group’ per say but inclined to want to shed light or their learnings or point of view, probably thinking they can safe someone from themselves, with Peter I get the vibe that he things we are doing something wrong. That’s how it feels to me, however fascinating what’s being shared, we still all have our own lessons to learn.

I could be wrong, I just know a few people that no matter how much info is right in front of them they’ve already decided something and there’s not much anyone can do to change or refute it. One of them is convince that they are God and can DO everything on their own, no groups or feedback loops necessary, the bias is pretty unbelievable, hilarious as well.

From my experience, I learn best from others, so without the group exploring their inner mechanisms, sharing themselves, their knowledge, their lives, and me trying to understand and relate to them then I’d go nowhere even faster than I’m going.