Having double vision

[Gaby]

The other major problem I developed and still have is reduced sensation (low to moderate numbness, but not complete numbness) that's occurring from my ankles up my legs and the front of my torso. My vision, however, has significantly improved (though still far from 100%) and I'm not dizzy or nauseous anymore. I got some acupuncture from a different and, I think, much more skilled acupuncturist than the one I mentioned going to not too long ago and so that may be helping some (a lot?) as well. Though he's also a former neurologist from Russia and was convinced that it was neurological.

It does sound like a neurological manifestation of an immune reaction in your body in response to something. The important thing is that you are taking steps to take care of it.

You don't happen to have mercury amalgams? Sometimes mercury poisoning is at the root of problems that are difficult to manage with diet alone.

 

[Foxx]

Ah, OK. Sorry for the miunderstanding.

No problem :) I can see how it would have been confusing.

That's it! this explains why you have unequal pupils, dunno but looks like you've got a concussion.
You should rest and try not to do hard work for a while, get enough sleep. and your body heals itself.

So sorry to hear that Foxx and get well soon,
I guess the vision problem came from the hit in the had, not the lobster.
Just a thought.
Take care and avoid logs for a while!!!

Thanks anothermagyar :) I feel like I'm continuing to improve (my vision is definitely improving), so that's good so far.

My uncle had a concussion two years ago, and has had blurry and at times double vision, somewhat similar to what you describe.

He's going to some form of treatment which basically focuses on reestablishing the abilities of the brain and eyes to focus etc.

I don't know the name of the treatment but apparently it's a fairly new thing; maybe something to look into?

That's interesting--thanks for the suggestion! I'll see if I can find that treatment. Did he also have any numbness?

Hi Foxx,
Was the lobster alive when you prepared it. If it was frozen, was it cooked?
Apparently lobster if not boiled alive can cause some weird symptoms. I remember reading about it in school but I was unable to find some more data on the net now.

That's interesting. It was frozen and precooked, but I've started wondering if they cooked it well enough. It probably was, but it's not yet ruled out.

The concussion and the other things you mentioned are probably contributing to the double vision, but I thought I’d mention the possibility of the accommodation strain of the eyes influencing the situation as well.

Copious amounts of close work can eventually pile up and cause the ciliary muscle to ”spasm”, with blurred vision, myopia, astigmatism, etc. as a result. Systemic symptoms can be a consequence too.

I stumbled across the subject some time ago, and posted about it here:

http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,25228.msg295582.html#msg295582

Hope you’ll start feeling better soon :)

Thanks for the input and link, hiker! I've practically never had headaches for some time (probably since going paleo, but possibly even before that) and I also have the numbness, so I'm not sure if the two are linked. I've got some DMSO + saline drops now, though, so I'll be using those in case of eye muscle tension.

H.E.

I did go to kineziologist who told me that I am about 100th person complaining about the same symptoms in last few months, and after working on me she was unable to find any serious issues.

This strikes me as an interesting "coincidence"?. Considering how far away you and the other 99+- experiencing the same symptoms, are from Foxx, I wonder if it isn't literally something in the air? Blown in from space? Beamed out from some technology? Just a thought--or 2 or 3.
shellycheval

I've certainly been thinking about this and, even more interestingly, my landlady just got a pretty severe case of something that includes vertigo, nausea, and I'm pretty sure diarrhea. She thinks that it's "Cruise ship" virus (aka Norovirus _http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norovirus --which can come from shellfish), but that also sounds more gastrointestinal than what I had/have. My symptoms don't seem, to me, that closely related to H.E.'s or my landlady's or anyone else's, but it is possible that it's the same thing with some different symptoms. A friend of my landlady also was sick recently with something kind of similar, though it didn't sound as severe as hers or mine. It certainly could be around that time.

I might be way off base here, but your symptoms combined with the seafood made me think of ciguatera poisoning. I don't know much about it, but it comes from seafood and several of my friends got it back in the late 90's. They had symptoms very similar to yours, especially the vision and digestive issues.

You might want to ask your doctor to test for it?

Thanks for the suggestion Guardian! There are definitely some similarities to that and the symptoms I had/have, but the ciguatera sounds like more of a gastrointestinal problem and also is said to come primarily from tropical carnivorous fish so I don't think that's it.

Do try and supplement B-complex, especially B12 - best in sub-lingual drops form.

I'd be careful with the B vitamins, maybe just take a little at first? I know some folks do great with it, but it makes me dizzy and gives me hot flashes worse than menopause.

I just got some Jarrow methylcobalamin 5g lozenges and am taking some today, along with 100mg of thiamin and 1g (mega dose) of folic acid. I've got a good B complex that I'll probably start taking again when I can get it. I do think that it's very possible that I still have a B12 deficiency after having thought about it over the past few days and done a bit more reading.

Guardian: is that from all the B vitamins, or just Niacin? That sounds like a niacin reaction (flush) to me.

I think B complex is a good idea too. Hopefully you can get to the bottom of this soon. Glad to hear your MRI was normal.

Thanks Lilou!

It does sound like a neurological manifestation of an immune reaction in your body in response to something. The important thing is that you are taking steps to take care of it.

You don't happen to have mercury amalgams? Sometimes mercury poisoning is at the root of problems that are difficult to manage with diet alone.

My white blood cell count was apparently a little high when I first went to the ER almost a week ago, but I'm not sure if it's meaningful enough to draw any conclusions from. Are there any other steps I should be taking to take care of it besides rest, continuing the Keto diet, the supplements I'm taking, and acupuncture? The skilled acupuncturist I referenced called me today to make an appointment and I had been thinking that whatever the cause he could probably help to some degree, so I made an appointment for Monday.

I had an amalgam filling for a while (probably 5-10 years), but had it taken out probably 10 years ago and had the tooth root-canaled and crowned. That was the only amalgam filling I had.

Thanks everyone! :)

 

[Gaby]

Are there any other steps I should be taking to take care of it besides rest, continuing the Keto diet, the supplements I'm taking, and acupuncture? The skilled acupuncturist I referenced called me today to make an appointment and I had been thinking that whatever the cause he could probably help to some degree, so I made an appointment for Monday.

I had an amalgam filling for a while (probably 5-10 years), but had it taken out probably 10 years ago and had the tooth root-canaled and crowned. That was the only amalgam filling I had.

Thanks everyone! :)

If your body is going through some stress response of some sort, I would keep magnesium and vitamin C among my supplementation to help out as they both help in these special cases. When you get stabilized, I would wean off from vitamin C gradually in order to avoid a sudden artificial lack of it in your body.

Also EE ;)

Good recovery!

 

[Gaby]

Another thing that came to mind and is worth asking to the neurologist is about the possibility of Lyme's disease. Most people don't recall ever being bitten by a tick, but double vision and other odd reactions can be a part of the disease.

 

[Foxx]

If your body is going through some stress response of some sort, I would keep magnesium and vitamin C among my supplementation to help out as they both help in these special cases. When you get stabilized, I would wean off from vitamin C gradually in order to avoid a sudden artificial lack of it in your body.

Also EE ;)

Good recovery!

Thanks Psyche!

Another thing that came to mind and is worth asking to the neurologist is about the possibility of Lyme's disease. Most people don't recall ever being bitten by a tick, but double vision and other odd reactions can be a part of the disease.

Some of the doctors I saw brought this up but didn't seem to think it was the case. With the symptoms I'm having, if they were from lyme's, would it be from nerve/brain damage I have from lyme's that would show up on the MRI? I think I was tested for it but haven't gotten the results (and hear the tests aren't reliable anyway).

One other thing that makes me think that this may be delayed effects from a concussion somehow is that if I open my mouth wide, the side of my head where I got hit still hurts a bit to moderately (over a month later now).

 

[Z...]

Psyche why do you suggest "weaning off" vitamin C supplementation?
I was under the impression we need to supplement it all the time and in pretty big doses, especially now when the level of radioactive pollution in the ecosystem is increased.

 

[Gaby]

Psyche why do you suggest "weaning off" vitamin C supplementation?
I was under the impression we need to supplement it all the time and in pretty big doses, especially now when the level of radioactive pollution in the ecosystem is increased.

The idea being that supplements might throw off balance mitochondrial pathways by adding just certain supplements. But you're right, vitamin C makes a difference against radiation. Also, at the initial stages of the diet, more supplementation is needed. After several weeks (or months?) in ketosis, the need for supplementation goes down or might be eliminated altogether in a natural way.

Minerals like magnesium and potassium, and some vitamin C in stock are always good to have though. Right now, I'm taking only magnesium just a few days at a time.

 

[andi]

Psyche why do you suggest "weaning off" vitamin C supplementation?
I was under the impression we need to supplement it all the time and in pretty big doses, especially now when the level of radioactive pollution in the ecosystem is increased.

The idea being that supplements might throw off balance mitochondrial pathways by adding just certain supplements. But you're right, vitamin C makes a difference against radiation. Also, at the initial stages of the diet, more supplementation is needed. After several weeks (or months?) in ketosis, the need for supplementation goes down or might be eliminated altogether in a natural way.

Minerals like magnesium and potassium, and some vitamin C in stock are always good to have though. Right now, I'm taking only magnesium just a few days at a time.

I think you are right, I have not taken any supplements at all sins KD and I feel wonderful. I tried vit.C 2 grams a week or so ago, and I got diarrhoea. But if for example I get a flue, I'll help the system with vit. C.

 

[Redrock12]

Foxx, you mentioned that you had a root canal some time ago.
If you still have that RC, it could possibly be a contributing factor to your health problems. RCs are done on dead teeth and that dead tooth will be a constant source of infection. If your immune system is strong, it can handle the infection, but if your immune system is compromised or weakened, the results can be disastrous.
There's much more to it than what I've described, so if you want to get further details, go to Mercola's site (__www.mercola.com) and type in "root canals" in the search function. It's scary how root canals can negatively impact your health.
Good luck and get better soon. :) :) :)

 

[Foxx]

Foxx, you mentioned that you had a root canal some time ago.
If you still have that RC, it could possibly be a contributing factor to your health problems. RCs are done on dead teeth and that dead tooth will be a constant source of infection. If your immune system is strong, it can handle the infection, but if your immune system is compromised or weakened, the results can be disastrous.
There's much more to it than what I've described, so if you want to get further details, go to Mercola's site (__www.mercola.com) and type in "root canals" in the search function. It's scary how root canals can negatively impact your health.
Good luck and get better soon. :) :) :)

Thanks Redrock12! I've been thinking about that tooth for some time, but haven't decided what to do about it (and currently don't think that's cause).

As an update, I just got back from an appointment with the skilled acupuncturist (and former neurologist) who said that I had/have a severe concussion and that the hospital didn't find it or mention it because they didn't want the possibility of being sued (I'm not sure what they could do to treat it anyway...american doctors ). I've got another appointment with him on thursday and I think I'm going to continue on with treatment with him for at least a little while (I asked him today how long he thought it would take to treat the issue and he said he thought a month or two, though it wasn't clear if that was once a week or twice a week). Personally, I think it might take less time than that with being on the Keto diet and my past experience of how I've reacted to that type of healing, but we'll see how things progress.

I also have my neurologist appointment on Wednesday and I'm going to ask him specifically about a concussion and see what he says.

 

[Foxx]

As a second update after some additional thinking, the acupuncturist also said that my main issue is in my liver and that there's blood stagnation in it (he used the phrase "poisoned blood") and liver issues have been, I think, my main organ issues for a while from my own and other diagnoses (especially manifest in persistent skin problems that have changed and improved over many years, but still not gone away). The liver is supposed to be the seat of anger, if I understand correctly, and I've also had anger for a very long time to varying degrees, so I think I've been suppressing it for a long time and so perhaps the "whack upside the head" and subsequent major issues coming from it was symbolically telling me to finally find a way to release this anger as best I can, for good.

So, I think I'll be finding some things to smash and laugh about the next time I have the opportunity (taking care not to hit myself in the head this time!) :)

 

[SeekinTruth]

Thanks for the updates, Foxx. Just wanted to say that if you've had a severe concussion, to make sure you get all the medical attention you need so as not to have long-term repercussions. It could be very serious, so it's worth taking care of it now. Hoping you heal fully and quickly.

 

[Foxx]

Thanks for the updates, Foxx. Just wanted to say that if you've had a severe concussion, to make sure you get all the medical attention you need so as not to have long-term repercussions. It could be very serious, so it's worth taking care of it now. Hoping you heal fully and quickly.

Thanks SeekinTruth! I'm definitely taking it seriously so I'll be getting whatever medical attention is necessary. I currently think the acupuncture will be the best route for me, but I'm going to be asking the neurologist specifically about a concussion tomorrow and finding out what tests they can run, if any, and what treatment options there are (if any...) for concussions.