Home Grown Tobacco

D69

Dagobah Resident
I was not sure where to put this topic so here it is.

Recently i started to grow my own tobacco plants.
It looks like it is quite easy process and it gives a lot of satisfaction from your own home grown tobacco :)
Also it is really cheap (i payed around 3.5$ for 100 seeds) and requires really basic knowledge.
For all those who are interested , here is a good site to start learning :)

__http://www.howtogrowtobacco.com
 
I thought about doing this, but it was when I just got into smoking a few months back and it's now too late I think to plant some crops. I'd also need some space to plant them, perhaps I could use or widen the family garden.
 
i grew some tobacco plants some time ago. i cultivated them in pots on the windowstill. after picking up leaves, i dried them until they lost green tint and started to smell like... tobacco. i must say it turned out to be the worst thing i'd ever smoked. while i used Nicotiana Rustica seeds ("native american tobacco"), which species doesn't offer much in terms of taste, i've never thought tobacco can be THAT bad.

i don't write this to discourage you, drygol - i wish you best luck :-) - but growing smokable tobacco is not as straightforward as one may think. good soil and a lot of sunlight are a must (neither was present in my case). another thing, of equal importance, is preparing the leaves which includes drying them up in proper environment and then optionally "curing" (which is an art itself).

some Polish info on that topic can be found here:
_http://www.fajczarze.pl/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2783&sid=bda88a3af774a0ce1c1caaadb46cf961

there is a files section somewhere on that forum with some OCRs of old books on cultivating and preparing tobacco.
 
In the back to the land hippie days I grew tobacco. I started the seeds in a flat and transplanted the plants into the garden. They should be spaced about three feet apart as they like plenty of sun and air. They are gorgeous plants, six foot pyramidal shapes with light green leaves about a foot in diameter. They like good soil with nitrogen fertilizer in the early growing stage. They prefer to be well watered until the finally stage of cultivation, when dry soil and diminished nitrogen improve color and taste.

The leaves are harvested individually, bundled and hung to dry in a dark enclosed box or room which should have a temperature in the seventies and be ventilated with gently moving air. The trick to good taste is to reduce the moisture content gradually over a period of weeks, without any increase in moisture content of the leaf, which might be caused by stopping the air flow. This procedure transforms the carbohydrates and chlorophyll into sugars that are so tasty in flue cured tobacco. Of course there are many cultivars and methods of curing that provide the wide variety of taste and nicotine content around the world.

I occasionally smoke cigars, but the increasing price makes growing some for yourself and your friends a thrifty and delightful project. FWIW-Growing plants provides me with a thread of contact with the world of process and husbandry missing in the modern world.
 
i must say it turned out to be the worst thing i'd ever smoked

yup , I`ve already read about that problem , It is just a matter of fermentation.
I believe that proper flavour might be achieved through practice ;)

That forum link that i pasted here , covers all aspects of tobacco growth. :)
I`ll report back when I will have some more experience :)
 
Hi to all home made tobacco lovers,

It's relatively easy to get healthy and nicely dried tobacco (especially in Dalmatia) but how to get mild tobacco that is another kind of problem, tried all possible subspecies from ex-Yugoslavia region but they are all extremely strong, any experiences related to mild tobacco planting and subspecies names acceptable for warm and relatively dry (California like climate).


Greetings and thanks in advance
 
Experiment in Growing Tobacco

Old Tobacco sign found this summer


Thought to share my experience (from another post) in making a final tobacco product from the home garden this year and will try to improve with what I’ve learned in 2012. This experiment caused many thoughts about my mistakes and there is still research needed and refinements to consider being in a northern climate. In watching video's from Virgina and Kentucky growers, sure feel like a real rookie but it has been fun.

Anyway, was very saddened reading from Johnno back in 2010 whereby he cites along the fines in Australia if caught growing tobacco can be $50,000. That caught my attention and was truly aghast that these are laws, yet they have no trouble at all probably in allowing GMO to grow wherever it suits them. :mad:
http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,14832.msg146722.html#msg146722

So this year bought some organic Hopi Seeds acclimatized to northern zones, but the zone I live in is slightly outside that specification. The soil here is Silt/Clay and needed to be cut with some sand and organics. The garden was originally poppies and herbs and so a little work was required to keep it cleaned of the older perennials coming up in addition to the regular weeds.

Seeds (not the originals)


The garden (micro for this) measured approximately 8 x 17 and is divided in three sections. Planted the seeds later in May, with a June fill in plant. We had a cool spring and germination was very slow with the following coming up with not much growth until August where it took off.

After Seeding


The Plants
Here is a more mature September photo with flower.



Here was a critical Tip that did not happen during this harvest.

Curing tobacco leaves results in your final tobacco product by drying, decomposing chlorophyll and changing other natural chemicals in the leaves. The quality of your results depends upon proper curing.
_http://www.ehow.com/how_2065928_harvest-cure-organic-tobacco.html#ixzz1hiLaY01C

What happened in my case was that by mid to late September and early October started covering against frost with daytime heating continuing growth – was hoping to create some seed (some had flowered). By the time the first week of October past, knew it needed to be harvested and hung the tobacco in our woodshed (closed). Close monitoring and moving inside was delayed because of heading to Barcelona for the conference and travel – hoped for the best upon return.

What was found upon return however was that some leaves had cured but the weather had turned really cold (<-10c) and although the leaves had little moisture, some still did which stopped the curing process. Removed these to a room inside and hung again. The climate here is really dry so had to add a humidifier to keep the leaves from drying out and becoming brittle. Did not start cutting until December which is described below.

Preperation:



The next thinking involved cutting with a few methods linked to below. After watching a video using a pasta maker to cut and shred, and being that there was one in the house in a box already, decided on that route.

Result: The pasta maker works so so (it does and doesn’t) , here is the photo of this device in action at the kitchen counter

Pasta Maker

In principal it worked well and initially it was fine (leaves must not be brittle) but during the first batch (two large bags) the machine literally started coming apart from within, weakening and bending (light steel) and required rather an extensive overhaul. :(
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Here are those likely better options:

For small amounts:
_http://www.seedman.com/cutof.htm

Liked this antique version shown here in this video:
_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1VFABKbCak

Here is a nifty video of a homemade mechanical machine:
_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRyfuk0ydrU&feature=related

This third one looks very good (video):
_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ab3P4IgM_mo&feature=related

Into the Pan

You will have noted just how green some of the tobacco is (much of it) and in this respect I failed it in the curing stage.


The smoke :cool2:

So have been smoking this leaf and will describe the burning and taste. The tobacco actually burns not too badly but requires attention if left as it goes out. The taste is very smooth, mild and sweet; all three are very noticeable and enjoyable and was not expecting this.

Next year if given the chance, will try to resolve to improve the planting medium, bed orientation to sun, soil depth, and curing techniques. Another aspect will be to run a trial between planted from seed and seedlings.
 
Thanks for sharing, voyageur. I'm glad it turned out smooth and tasty. :) Best of luck on the next batch and happy growing.
 
davey72 said:
Is it not illegal,like marijuauna,and where does one get seeds?

Try looking here davey72 _http://www.tobaccoseed.ca/

There are seeds in many organic outlets like Calgary, Nelson bc etc.

Here is the skinny on NA law:

Canadian Government Regulations on Growing your own Tobacco:
(i) the product is for their personal use or that of the members of their family who reside with the individual and who are 18 years of age or older, and,
(ii) the quantity of product manufactured in any year does not exceed 15 kg for the individual and each member of the individual’s family who resides with the individual and who is 18 years of age or older.

US Regulations on Growing your own Tobacco:
There is no federal regulation for the amount of tobacco homegrowers can grow for personal use but that the department of agriculture of the state in which the tobacco may be grown might have some restrictions...and to check with that state government agency

Thanks SeekinTruth, must say it was neat seeing the fruits of labour and will keep at it.

:cool2:
 
Interesting thread!

I've thought of growing it too, I've enough sun in one spot in my yard to do it but I heard getting seeds in Australia can be difficult. Does anyone know a supplier in Australia I can get them from?

Cheers!
 
Brewer said:
Interesting thread!

I've thought of growing it too, I've enough sun in one spot in my yard to do it but I heard getting seeds in Australia can be difficult. Does anyone know a supplier in Australia I can get them from?

Cheers!

If you look at Johnno's post ( http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,14832.msg146722.html#msg146722 ), being from Australia it is mentioned that growing is illegal and carries a hefty fine, thus seeds might be difficult to get - not sure, darn shame.
 
voyageur said:
Brewer said:
Interesting thread!

I've thought of growing it too, I've enough sun in one spot in my yard to do it but I heard getting seeds in Australia can be difficult. Does anyone know a supplier in Australia I can get them from?

Cheers!

If you look at Johnno's post ( http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,14832.msg146722.html#msg146722 ), being from Australia it is mentioned that growing is illegal and carries a hefty fine, thus seeds might be difficult to get - not sure, darn shame.

I had a look at that link, thanks for that. 50 grand fine, that's a bit rich!

Cheers!
 
I have found a Dutch soon-to-be webshop.

http://personaltobacco.com/personal-tobacco/

Apparently, they sell a tobacco mincer (if that is the right word) for personal use. You can also order supplies to make your own cigars!

Also, they talk about the role of tobacco during WWII in Holland. Apparently, it was used for barter and helped people survive.

The site states that home-grown tobacco is legal apart from Holland in France, Germany, Switzerland and Austria. You have to apply for permission in Italy and Malta in order to be able to grow some.

I have some space left, now that we do not grow our potatoes and beans anymore...
A perfect reason to start smoking. :cool: :cool2:
 
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