How do we retain our knowledge after death?

Carlybee

Padawan Learner
I had a look through the forum about retaining knowledge after death but couldn't figure out what exactly to search under or what subcategory to post my question into so apologies if it's in the wrong spot.

I am curious for insights on what happens to the knowledge we strive to attain during this physical lifetime if we die? Is it always with us? Or do we forget again and all is once again veiled from us like many say about this life?

I'm wondering because if knowledge protects, and we die before the wave for example, what happens to us and all our efforts to attain and retain our knowledge? Is it only retained if we can ride the wave and keep our physical bodies? Also where and how is it retained?

Namaste, C.
 
Carlybee said:
I had a look through the forum about retaining knowledge after death but couldn't figure out what exactly to search under or what subcategory to post my question into so apologies if it's in the wrong spot.

I am curious for insights on what happens to the knowledge we strive to attain during this physical lifetime if we die? Is it always with us? Or do we forget again and all is once again veiled from us like many say about this life?

I'm wondering because if knowledge protects, and we die before the wave for example, what happens to us and all our efforts to attain and retain our knowledge? Is it only retained if we can ride the wave and keep our physical bodies? Also where and how is it retained?

Namaste, C.

Hi Carlybee, have you read the Wave series in its entirety yet? A lot of these questions are addressed there. To sum it up VERY briefly, it depends. However, it is my understanding that, in all cases, "the soul remembers". Also, not everyone who will graduate to 4D will survive the arrival of the Wave, some may make a quick stop over in 5D to 'pick up a few things' on their way. It's a complex topic, but Laura does an amazing job at giving us some idea of the dynamics at play in the Wave.
 
Thanks Anart, that does help a little.

Yess I have read the whole wave series over a three month peroid on and off, I did take notes throughout as it's heavy reading but I must not have taken in fully the text around this topic...I really don't want to have to re read the whole series again lol, but if there is a chapter relating to my question in there I would definately re read it so I can better understand how this works. I had assumed yes that the soul remembers, I guess I'm curious as to how that works outside the physical realm. Or maybe our human brains couldn't comprehend such a description?
 
Hi Carlybee,

I asked this question back in January 2000 and Laura replied as follows which is still very relevant. At that point in time, The Wave wasn't finished yet and was still being published by Laura chapter by chapter.

Q: If we came from the 5th density back to this 3rd density, why are we not allowed to retain some of the previous lessons learnt? I mean what's the point of it all? You keep coming back to acquire knowledge but you retain non of it and come back to do it all over again. We have been doing this for a long time. When do we stop? If the purpose is to acquire enough knowledge to move on to higher densities, lots of people have failed miserably. And the numbers are growing.

A: My experience, and the experiences of others I have researched, is that we DO retain the previous lessons in some "visceral" sense. It may be a "personality trait," or a strong predeliction, a particular talent, higher intelligence (though not necessarily) or whatever. We may not be "conscious" in a strict sense, of this retention, but it helps to form our approach to the gaining and gathering of knowledge in this experience, and, in some cases, may accelerate it. I don't know that a lot of people have failed miserably. Yes, the population is growing, and thereby all the statistical numbers in whatever way one would wish to interpret them, but there are many interpretations that can be put on that factor.

As to "what is the point of it all," one reader already put this rather succinctly when he noted:

"If not for STS interference in the entire chess board of creation, creation would complete itself in an instant because everyone would desire the same end, union with God.

How could God define himself if his greatest creative thought only took in instant!"

I frequently ask those who believe that evil/STS should be "converted" and "done away with" exactly what is it in their mind that God should do for "eternity" if that were the case? And, in the words of Omar Khayyam, (I believe, but correct me if I am wrong), "who is the pot to say to the potter: why have you made me thus?"

Sure, this is a "non-confrontational" attitude, but isn't that the point?

Here is one of my favourite quotes by Ibn al-'Arabi as translated by William Chittick,;

The great Sufi Shaykh Ibn al-'Arabi explains that "imperfection" exists in Creation because "were there no imperfection, the perfection of existence would be imperfect".
 
Thanks for posting your earlier question and Laura's response, Vulcan -- I appreciate the succinct way in which that was explained. And the al-'Arabi quote is the perfect complement to it.
 
There are a number of snips from the sessions about memory. I'll paste them in below:

7 Oct 94
Q: (L) So, it happened so long ago that these stories have lost the truth?
A: Reflection passed down through psychic memory channel.

16 Oct 94
Q: (L) Did they abduct me or what is the source of this
memory?
A: It is a memory of a past life held in the deep
subconscious level.

20 Oct 94
Q: I had an experience under hypnosis several years ago while
in the mountains of North Carolina. What was that?
A: Soul memory awakening.
Q: What was the significance of the necklace?
A: Symbolic of ability to communicate supreme knowledge.
Q: Another experience on the boat one night, I am remembering
now. What was that event?
A: Similar.
Q: What was the source of these two events?
A: Us.
Q: Alright, another event during meditation followed by
period of intense crying. What was this event?
A: Soul cleansing.
Q: The source?
A: Us ridding you of dark influences.

22 Oct 94
Q: (L) Is the amnesia related to UFO abductions deliberately
induced or is it a product of the mind's inability to deal
with the event?
A: It is an equal commingling of both.
Q: (L) The part that is deliberately induced, how is that
accomplished?
A: By using a cosmic energy flow to influence memory function
through a combination of spiritual and chemical
interaction.
Q: (L) Can you be more specific?
A: Being more specific would be in another way less specific,
but a good way to put it is altering the flow of
electromagnetic energy in the brain. Electromagnetic
energy, electromagnetism, is the life force that exists
within all that evolves through long wave or short wave
cycles.

22 Oct 94
Q: (L) What did the tower of Babel look like?
A: Looked very similar to your Washington monument. Which
re-creation is an ongoing replication of a soul memory.

25 Oct 94
Q: (VL) E***'s dream of being choked?
A: Past life memory disconnection.

11 Jan 95
Q: (Barry) Is he the antichrist?
A: No. The "antichrist" is not an individual, but consortium.
Q: (Barry) Who is the Consortium?
A: Term refers to idea of large body of individuals.
Q: (L) Who specifically? (Frank) Human beings?
A: Yes and others.
Q: (Barry) Are these beings who have lived longer than most
people live in one lifetime?
A: Confused thought patterns.
Q: (Barry) Are these people who have reincarnated for
lifetime after lifetime and have kept the same memory to
continue the same plan?
A: Only a select few.

11 Feb 95
Q: (L) One of the things that has been being brought to my
mind continuously and repeatedly since that time has been
the memory of the lifetime that Frank and I explored
before, where we were brother and sister in Bavaria, and I
am wondering if there was some connection with Frank's
dad in that time, and is that why it is being continuously
shoved in my face?
A: Why not check it out? You are good at that, when you want
to be.
Q: (L) Obviously you want me to check it out through my own
head, right?
A: Yes.

18 April 95
Q: (L) A few weeks ago I did a hypnosis session with my son.
In this hypnosis session, he seemed to go back through a
memory of flying a plane, an EC 135, I believe. He seemed
to go through the crash and so forth. Was this a fairly
accurate recall on his part?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) The most interesting part of the session was when he
described smelling something strange in the hold of the
plane, that the cargo smelled strange. Was this an
accurate memory?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) When I asked him what it smelled like, he said it
smelled garbagy or something really horrible like sewage.
Was that a correct memory?
A: Close.
Q: (L) When I asked him if he knew what it was at a higher
level, he said that it had something to do with aliens.
Was that correct?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Was he, in fact, transporting something having to do
with alien-human interactions?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Then, something happened as he was flying along, he
seemed to be flying over the same spot twice and it
startled him. Did this, in fact, happen?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) And it seems, after he was flying over the same spot
the second time, that he said the smell was gone, the
cargo was gone. Did this, in fact, happen?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Was his plane, himself, and his co-pilot abducted in
flight by aliens?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Were they then shot down deliberately by the United
States Government?
A: Open.
Q: (L) Was his memory of the actual situation, as he was shot
down, fairly accurate?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Does he need more work on this issue to clear it?
A: Yes.

13 May 95
Q: (L) Well, you got that right. Okay, we have a couple of
questions we would like to get into. Jan noticed that
there was a symbol on the Windows Wingdings file that is
quite similar to the symbol that Ann B*** uses on her
brochures. We would like to know what is the source of
this symbol and why the variation?
A: Ethereal memory.
Q: (L) What is the meaning?
A: Interconnection of reality in general.

17 June 95
Q: (SV) I want to ask one question: If there is no time,
there is no past and no future; there are no past lives
and no future lives, there is no such thing as
reincarnation, then how can you be us...
A: Yes, there is reincarnation. You are getting ahead of
yourself there. We never said there is no reincarnation.
Q: (SV) But, if there is no time? (J) It is our perception
of it. (L) It is all happening simultaneously. We are
having all of these lifetimes at once. (SV) Is there a
way that we can connect ourselves with all our other
selves?
A: Picture it this way: we will access some of your memory
banks and give you another reference which, interestingly
enough, fits very closely with the perpendicular reality
wheel that we described earlier. You know what a slide
projector looks like? To give you some feeling of what
this expanded nature of reality really is, picture
yourself watching a big slide presentation with a big
slide wheel on the projector. At any given point along
the way you are watching one particular slide. But, all
the rest of the slides are present on the wheel, are they
not? And, of course, this fits in with the perpendicular
reality, which fits in with the circles within circles and
cycles within cycles, which also fits in the Grand Cycle,
which also fits in with what we have told you before: All
there is is lessons. That's all there is and we ask that
you enjoy them as you are watching the slide presentation...
Q: (J) In that analogy, the light that shines through the
slide, as it projects it upon the screen, is our
perception.
A: And, if you look back at the center of the projector, you
see the origin and essence of all creation itself, which,
is level seven where you are in union with the One.

7 Jan 96
Q: (L) Now, with all of us here, we would like to ask why the
black, flying boomerangs showed up on the night Pat first
came for hypnosis?
A: Examine issue carefully.
Q: (L) The first thing we thought about it was that this was
a, if not necessarily rare, at least rarely observed type
of craft, and the event itself was rare... is this
correct?
A: It is rare.
Q: (L) If it is rare for it to occur in response to a
hypnosis session, which person were the UFO's particularly
interested in?
A: It was not a person, but information that is hidden in the
subconscious memory of Patricia.
Q: (L) Were they wanting to get this information?
A: No. To monitor what would be revealed.
Q: (L) Does this mean that Pat has information programmed
into her before birth that she needs to access?
A: No. Abductions.
Q: (L) They wanted to see if anything would be revealed about
their abductions of her?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Okay, since she is here, can we ask who abducted her?
A: Grays.
Q: (L) How many times has she been abducted?
A: 4. Snow scene was only 3rd density.
Q: (P) Does that mean that the snow scene was only in this
realm?
A: No. Abduction which occurred there was strictly physical.
Q: (L) Okay, the abduction that occurred in the snow was a
physical abduction. Perhaps the others were not. Were
they physical also?
A: The others were 4th density. 3rd density abduction only
occurs rarely, and is of great import.

13 Jan 96
Q: [Question lost in static burst.]
A: No, P, the "blue thing" you saw was not an aural imprint
reading, it was a 4th density craft partially transferred
into 3rd density. Your deep subconscious memory remembers
much, much more.

20 Jan 96
Q: (P) I would like to know what I can do to improve my
memory?
A: You have sleep disorders that are "short circuiting what
would ordinarily be utterly spectacular psychic and mental
abilities. When you were very young, your senses were 10
times sharper. But then, the "interferences began."
Q: (P) That is absolutely true. I have had a sleep problem
for years. (L) Is there anything P can do to overcome
this? Physically or otherwise?
A: Cleansing of a very intensive nature; hypnotic regression;
spirit release and dietary adjustments. Also, stress
inducing life circumstances of a very "ordinary" nature
must all be deviated! Ordinary, in this instance, means
not of an ethereal nature directly.

24 Feb 96
Q: (L) Now, my memory for dates and times has always been, at
best, a little vague. But, lately, it has been really
bad. What is the cause of this loss of ability to keep a
sequential record of what one does, who one sees, etc? It
is really strange.
A: It is not strange. As one "ages" the illusion of time
passage begins to deteriorate because your "higher mind"
begins to understand the illusion.

28 Dec 96
Q: (A) I seem to be having trouble with my memory... is this related to the
emotional issues you told me about?
A: Check dietary considerations. These can either enhance or forestall the
ageing process.

4 Jan 87
Q: (L) The next question: The C's, Andromedans and others
talk about 'densities.' We are supposed to live in 3rd
density. Does this number 3 have anything to do with 3
space dimensions?
A: Close. Means: Original definition closer to 3rd level of
experience, relating material/ethereal spectrum, but
denizens of Terra Locator came up with "Third Dimensional"
explanation due to influences upon the subconscious mind
from soul memory connnection to Akashic record.

29 March 97
Q: (Laura) OK, let me ask this question. In talking about
time, I would like to ask, in relation to time, what is
memory?
A: More specific.
Q: (Laura) You want me to be more specific, well, let me
put it this way. Some understanding of time refers to it as
the 'now', the ever-present now. Well, a lot of people
remember a lot of other 'nows,' some people don't remember
any 'nows' at all, and it seems like memory is almost like
a reverse function of anticipation. Anticipation being
almost like a memory of the 'future' and memory being like
a reverse anticipation into the past. So, what I would like
to know is if time is merely a 'now', what is memory?
A: Conscious and subconscious record of perceptions.
Q: (Laura) Ok. If memory is subconscious or conscious
recording of perceptions, when one accumulates a sufficient
amount of memory, does one then become 'timeless'?
A: One is always timeless.
Q: (Laura) OK, but does one then become aware of one's
timelessness?
A: In 4th density.
Q: (Laura) OK. Does an electron have a memory?
A: Electron is borrowed unit of 7th density.
{...}
Q: (Laura) Is there anything about an atom that holds
memory?
A: Memory is subjective, atom is not.
Q: (Laura) Well, some atoms seem to be somewhat
subjective.
A: No, it is your interpretation.

5 April 97
Q: My first question is: If memory is conscious and
subconscious record of perception, as you have stated, and
there occurs a "reality merge," as you also described
previously, some sort of time manipulation, does this
automatically change individual perceptions?
A: Perceptions "leap" into place according to markers in the
eternally present continuum.
Q: What are these markers?
A: Experiential breaks in the perceptual realm of
continuance.
Q: Markers are experiential breaks. So, one experiences
breaks and they become markers... perceptions leap into
place... is this saying that, when there is a perception
of a break, that some part of the psyche seeks to bridge
this break by leaping into some sort of ...
A: The definition of the previous responses will become clear
for you only after some reflection, my dear!
Q: Umm... does this leaping of perception occur for everyone
as a group, or are some people immune to it?
A: !Como!?! What, said the perplexed ones, incredulously!
Q: Okay, you said that memory is subjective and an atom is
not. If memory is subjective, what you have just been
describing means that each and every person has a slightly
different perspective, even if they are involved with the
same incident or the same time sequence.
A: Of course!
Q: But it also implies...
A: That is the treasury of learning.
Q: Who is the treasurer?
A: The learner.
Q: But still, what you said still implies that an atom has an
objective existence. Is this correct?
A: Yes.
Q: Would you please tell us what constitutes objectivity?
A: The effort on the part of the observer to leave prejudice
"at the door."
Q: How does the effort on the part of the observer to leave
prejudice at the door relate to the objective existence of
an atom?
A: An atom, as with absolutely everything else, cannot exist
without an observer.
Q: So, in the case of the objectivity of an atom, if the
human observers are not objective, where is the observer
who makes the atom objective, or does the atom not exist
if there is no observer?
A: Yes. to the latter comment.
Q: Yes to which part?
A: The latter comment.
Q: So there must be an observer. Must the observer be human?
A: The observer must be a consciousness.
Q: If you say that an atom has an objective existence, yet it
only exists if it is perceived by a consciousness, then an
atom does not have an objective existence, correct?
A: No.
Q: Okay, what is the distinction? You say that objectivity
is the ATTEMPT on the part of the observer to leave
prejudice at the door.
A: Without consciousness, there is neither objective or
subjective!!
Q: So the crux is the attempt to leave prejudice at the door
in the same manner as one would be non-anticipatory in
order to create?
A: Yes.
Q: Well, that is a VERY tricky... (A) Is consciousness
objective?
A: Consciousness is objective, until it has the capacity to
choose to be otherwise.
Q: What is the stimulus for the change, for the giving of the
capacity to choose?
A: The introduction of prejudice.
Q: In a cosmic sense, cosmic consciousness, in the sense of
The One Unified Consciousness, what is the stimulus there
for the ability to choose?
A: When the journey has reached union with The One, all such
lessons have been completed.
Q: But, that doesn't answer the question.
A: Yes, it does!

23 Sept 2000
Q: Okay, I want to find out about this Jack and the Beanstalk and the "giant meaning"
you have talked about in the recent past. Not only that, but you have continuously hinted
that something is just around the corner, and we are getting to the point where we are
thinking that there is just simply not going to be enough time to do anything. Ark's got
800 pages of Maxwell to go through; he can't stop working to do that; 800 pages of
equations is a lot of work - like months of hard work - and, time is passing - four years
have gone by, and zip! I'm not getting impatient here, but time is going and you guys are
6th density and it means nothing to you... but we're getting older. What we are supposed
to do, if we are supposed to do something to make the connection for things to move?
A: You are so anxious. Perhaps you should examine the ground covered, or were you
just as close 10 years back?
Q: Well, ten years ago I didn't wear glasses. I didn't need 'em either! I could thread a
needle! I mean, this thing called time has a profound effect on physiology whether you
guys notice it or not! I know, it's the soul that counts, but my thought is that we are in
these bodies, and it has been subtly suggested that we are in these present vehicles to DO
something.
A: But is it not a great adventure?
Q: Well, lately it has been a lot of working and slaving. Working to pay the bills. Then
we had to survive this period when the company wasn't paying our invoices, so we had to
borrow on our credit cards, now we have to pay that back AND live at the same time. So,
boom! Work, work, work!
A: So maybe you should return to the way things were when we first contacted you?
Q: No! I'm not complaining!
A: Yes, you are, though in a gentle way.
Q: Well, I mean you did so much, you brought us together, did all these things... and...
A: And you think there is no more?
Q: Well, no... but...
A: But what?!?
Q: Well, we're together and we are happy. And because we are together and happy we
feel like we should be getting things accomplished... that there are...
A: And you are not?
Q: Not in a big useful way.
A: So say you. Thank goodness you ain't an expert in this judgement arena!
Q: So, you are saying that, even though it appears to us on the surface that nothing is
happening, that at some level, something IS happening?
A: Oh, yeah!! So... Quit yer bitchin.
Q: Is it too much for me to ask for you to give me just one teensy tinesy little hint about
what is going on at these other levels that we are not aware of that is so important?
A: You may ask.
Q: Well, I did. Just give me a little bitty hint... a three word clue... Something to calm me
down. Something to make me sleep well at night and that will let me know that all is
right with the world...
A: RAM.
Q: That's the clue?
A: Yes.
Q: Was that an abbreviation or a word?
A: Seek and ye shall find.
Q: (A) RAM. Random Access Memory.
A: Yes.

14 Sept 2002
Q: (L) I have a question. I had a thought the other night after I read Dolan's book. He was talking about this government technology for mind control and so forth, and how the government or the military was trying to cover up the alien presence and interactions, what they were really up to and what they were really doing, and I came to this idea after reading all of these cases. What is evident is that there were apparently abductions and landings and contact stories from very early on in the so-called UFO phenomenon. What I thought about was the fact that Bud Hopkins and Whitley Strieber promoted in their books, mostly Whitley, the image of the gray alien as the standard American abductor. After the publication of these books all American abductions seemed to follow the pattern of the gray alien abduction. However, it is primarily an American phenomenon. Most other places in the world don't have little gray aliens with bug eyes. So, what I want to know is this: is the gray alien abduction scenario: a.) A screen memory b.) a creation of the American military mass mind programming project in order to acclimate people to certain conditions, circumstances and interactions, or c.) something else or d) are they really just gray aliens abducting everybody?
A: You have stumbled upon an interesting question indeed. As we have noted previously, physical abductions are rare. Not only that, some abductions do not end with return of the victim. Now, what do you suppose you would do to cover up this fact? You might "create" a lot of abductions that end with return and "no harm done."
Q: (L) That wasn't one of my answer selections! Does this mean that the abductions reported by the people that Bud Hopkins worked with followed by Whitley Strieber were staged?
A: Close enough for horseshoes.
Q: (L) Okay, what would get us closer.
A: How about several varieties of experiences including government experiments. Did you ever notice how some cases exhibit extreme trauma and some do not? Same general story, but one is related with deeper sensation of reality, and another is not. Why do you think so many "abductees" are able to accommodate the experience, while some result in ruined lives?
Q: (L) So you are saying that some of them are not really being abducted. They're just having something projected into their mind. So how long has this been going on?
A: Over 30 years.
Q: (L) That would be back to the 70's. And so where did Whitley come up with his gray aliens...and how does this relate to grays as cyber-genetic probes?
A: There really are "grays." But not nearly as ubiquitous the gov would like you to think.
Q: (L) So with Whitley telling everybody how it happens and what they look like along with contouring of the blanket EM mind control field or whatever, with the beaming out of a mind-programming wave - whatever it is - they're able to make a whole hell of a lot of people - everybody who is susceptible - think they are in contact with gray aliens. What is it that makes some people susceptible and not others?
A: Most generally that they are not organic portals.
Q: (L) So that leads to our other question, do organic portals ever get abducted?
A: No need.
Q: (L) So they're using this, in a sense, as a weeding mechanism?
A: More or less.
Q: (L) So those people who declare firmly, that there is absolutely, never have, never could be, any evidence of abduction, could be OP's?
A: Generally speaking, yes.
 
Vulcan thankyou, and yes the quote puts the purpose of imperfection into perspective. I'm glad to hear others have pondered this topic as it's a tricky one to define, well for me anyway.

So in clarification, the soul remembers all lessons, and when it reincarnates it expresses the knowledge it's gained through character, talents, personality, dreams etc? So I assume that if we are a fourth density candidate and we can ride the wave successfully, meaning we physically survive, we have more chance of assimilating all we have learned thus far? Or is there still some kind of veil or restriction placed upon us in 4D?
 
Thanks so much Laura for posting those transcripts, now I understand just how many variables and road blocks there are in regaining soul memory. I've heard some people can go into deep meditation and read their own particular history book from the arkashic records, that would be a cool skill to acquire! Just these transcripts alone have evoked so many more questions but I'm going to rest my brain for a while and do some pipe breath! ;)
 
Carlybee said:
Thanks Anart, that does help a little.

Yess I have read the whole wave series over a three month peroid on and off, I did take notes throughout as it's heavy reading but I must not have taken in fully the text around this topic...I really don't want to have to re read the whole series again lol, but if there is a chapter relating to my question in there I would definately re read it so I can better understand how this works. I had assumed yes that the soul remembers, I guess I'm curious as to how that works outside the physical realm. Or maybe our human brains couldn't comprehend such a description?

Hi Carlybee,

You will be amazed, if you read the Wave series again, to realize what you have missed the first time that you read it. Moreover since the time that you have read it, your understanding of many concepts have changed and you will discover a lot of new thing in those wonderful books that you have not seen the first time you read it. ;D

just try it for fun. :cool:
 
Gandalf said:
Carlybee said:
Thanks Anart, that does help a little.

Yess I have read the whole wave series over a three month peroid on and off, I did take notes throughout as it's heavy reading but I must not have taken in fully the text around this topic...I really don't want to have to re read the whole series again lol, but if there is a chapter relating to my question in there I would definately re read it so I can better understand how this works. I had assumed yes that the soul remembers, I guess I'm curious as to how that works outside the physical realm. Or maybe our human brains couldn't comprehend such a description?

Hi Carlybee,

You will be amazed, if you read the Wave series again, to realize what you have missed the first time that you read it. Moreover since the time that you have read it, your understanding of many concepts have changed and you will discover a lot of new thing in those wonderful books that you have not seen the first time you read it. ;D

just try it for fun. :cool:

I agree with this, some information in the beginning only makes sense reading information further along. You tend to get those big AHA moments reading it multiple times.
 
There was another snip I was looking for and finally figured out the search term to find it:

27 May 200

Q: (L) Moving along to the next question: we have been discussing memories and how memories of, say, past lives are stored, and that leads to the question of what is the structure and composition of the soul? How does the soul remember? How does it carry its memories from lifetime to lifetime, from body to body, whether simultaneous or sequential? How does the soul "store" them?
A: Has to do with atomic principles. These with gravity present the borderland for the material and the nonmaterial. Which theoretical atomic particulates would you think form the basis here?
Q: (L) How about tachyons?
A: Maybe neutrons?
Q: (A) Neutrons? Or neutrinos?
A: Neutrinos.
Q: (A) Well, first they say neutrons, then neutrinos. Or "maybe neutrons." I say "neutrinos" and they say "yes." So a "maybe" is only a pointer. Neutrinos are funny particles because they are massless. But, some people don't believe that neutrinos exist. My guess would be neutrinos. Do they exist?
A: Okay, we are going to throw caution to the "winds," and say yes. [Laughter.]
Q: (L) In terms of these neutrinos and soul composition, how are memories formed or held or patterned with these neutrinos?
A: Contained within for release when and if suitable.
Q: (L) Memories are contained within the neutrinos?
A: Sort of.
Q: (L) Are they contained within patterns formed by the neutrinos?
A: Closer.
Q: (L) So, that means that if one "consciousness unit," or soul, has more memories or experiences than another consciousness unit, it would have more neutrinos?
A: No.
Q: (B) Different patterns?
A: No.
Q: (L) What's the difference?
A: More data per unit, sort of.
Q: (L) Does that mean that an individual neutrino can be, in and of itself, more "dense" in data, so to speak?
A: So to speak.
Q: (L) Does this increased density of data change the nature or function of the individual neutrino?
A: Maybe it changes the function of the awareness, thus the environs.
Q: (L) Is there a specific number of neutrinos that constitutes a consciousness unit, or soul?
A: Number is not quite the right concept. Orientation is closer.
Q: (L) What are the orientational options?
A: Vibrational frequencies.
Q: (L) Do the vibrational frequencies increase or decrease with density of data?
A: Change; better not to quantify.
Q: (A) We are talking about soul. Soul is what density, in concept?
A: Ark, are neutrinos related to the concept of a bridge into pure energy in some way?
Q: (A) Yes. I was going in that direction. I was wondering why you speak about neutrinos and not photons, because photons are also a bridge to pure energy, I would say. The difference between photons and neutrinos is that photons are bosons and neutrinos are fermions. Neutrinos have to dance so that they don't touch each other. Bosons are like pairs of neutrinos and photons, as bosons, are free to move in space any way they want.
A: We would mention photons in terms of this discussion, but for the tendency of some reading the WebPages to misinterpret in terms of the "love and light" fantastic.
Q: (L) Well, the "light fantastic" was a dance around the turn of the century, so that refers back to the remark about "dancing." (A) Are neutrinos the fundamental building blocks of everything? The most fundamental particle, so to speak?
A: More like a midpoint with spherical outward expansive quality. Tetrahedron, pentagon, hexagon.
 
Gandalf said:
Carlybee said:
Thanks Anart, that does help a little.

Yess I have read the whole wave series over a three month peroid on and off, I did take notes throughout as it's heavy reading but I must not have taken in fully the text around this topic...I really don't want to have to re read the whole series again lol, but if there is a chapter relating to my question in there I would definately re read it so I can better understand how this works. I had assumed yes that the soul remembers, I guess I'm curious as to how that works outside the physical realm. Or maybe our human brains couldn't comprehend such a description?

Hi Carlybee,

You will be amazed, if you read the Wave series again, to realize what you have missed the first time that you read it. Moreover since the time that you have read it, your understanding of many concepts have changed and you will discover a lot of new thing in those wonderful books that you have not seen the first time you read it. ;D

just try it for fun. :cool:

I agree. I'm currently re-reading The Wave again, and I'm surprised (or perhaps I should not be) at how much I have missed. Not only that but also there seems to be a much better comprehension about what I read.
 
If you want to read a "parapsychological" classic on the subject, check out Frederick Myers' The Human Personality and Its Survival After Death. Myers developed a "filter" theory of consciousness, i.e. that our brains filter a wider consciousness not limited to the body, and his book has all his experiments and thoughts on the matter. I haven't read it all, but from what I've perused it's very interesting. Also, his ideas influenced William James and Aldous Huxley, among others. Huxley even said that it was a shame Freud's theory of the unconscious was so popular, because it was so inferior to Myers'.
 
Thanks for sharing! Very helpful in conceptualizations of memory and how it works. How does one tap into he collective conscience? Is it done through meditating or focusing on breathing and individual thought patterns? Just a thought, any comments?
 
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