How to 'feed' yourself

[bozadi]

And, of course, in that practice, I imagine that the other person can and does feel the same way for me. In my own position, I am generally happy with the initiative-taking role.

I think that a profound "trust" plays such a critical role in love practice because each of us have those STS-programs, and complexes of guilt and victimhood at various extents are inescapable I think. So everyone somehow feel ashamed and guilty in this or that way and extent. We can often experience difficulty in trusting ourself with all those programs running some of which are known consciously and some subconsciouslly. Lack of trust to ourselves and others lead to great complexes as far as I can observe in my own situation and many others around me. And we tend to hide this fact from ourselves and from others. So that unconditionality aspect in a relative pure love interaction tends to close that great gap.

I'm aware that dependencies and exploitation issues naturally reign in many apparently lovely relationships in our lives or around us. There is that, too.

 

[bozadi]

I want to add a final note about loving in the hope that I haven’t got away from the main context of the thread too much. It is both a very well-known issue but also not so easy to discuss from various perspectives; a probable link between the lack of relatively pure love experience(s) and a possibly extreme interest in sexuality. So it is that lack of such pure love relationships with both the same sex and especially with the opposite sex can result in a very significant gap in one’s being and a very deep dissatisfaction and, sometimes, a pursuit of filling that gap by very physically oriented love including the possibilities of an extreme sexual desire and also tendency of sexual violence.

The very STS-dominated economic, religions, state & military, etc. conditions of our lives and endless hostilities between or among various such ideologies cause humanity to be divided and conquered and this process feeds egos so much and make pure love relationships so difficult. I don’t know if this is the dominant reality among all the peoples of the world but I’m fairly sure that it is the dominant reality in my country based on my own experiences and observations around me and around the society in general. I perceive that the same applies to almost all peoples even if not in the same extent. It is almost a natural and even inescapable result of the STS-dominated conditions of our local reality on the Earth.

And, again, when I say relatively pure love relationships, I mean what I tried to describe previously. Individuals assuring each other of their unconditional love and support for each other; a holistic, existentially-oriented love. I believe it is so energizing, even the thought of it, or belief in it.

For some reason, sharing of this love especially between opposite sexes results in a greater spiritual satisfaction, I believe. It is maybe because the duality and the relationship between the two sexes is somehow parallel to the duality and the relationship between any individual being and the entire existence. There is that similar sense of the great unknown or foreignness, the pursuit of exploration and union, a possible identification, and also possible related worries, fears, complexes. But our sexes are not absolute, they are essentially selective and variable. We wear our polarized bodies just as physical vehicles as a necessity of our 3D school based on duality and much physicality before each incarnation. So the true love seems to be much beyond sexes or genders actually.

I know that such descriptions are just idealizations, there can be many gaps between such idealizations and our actual reality conditions to be filled with knowledge before drawing any absolute conclusions. Our STS-dominated life conditions can and do make things so complicated, and this necessitates careful examination, specific problem analyses, learning, discussion, networking, etc.

 

[3DStudent]

Another point I want to attract attention to as regards energizing or feeding ourselves is an observation that when I manage to focus on loving some close people in my life with a certain success, I often experience an unexpected satisfaction or completion in many different terms. I think this leads to an interaction with the STO realm in some way and extent. [snip]

I think you made some interesting points the past few posts, but the attempting to telepathically communicate seems like giving for what is not asked. I myself do a lot of fantasizing and going through what if scenarios involving interactions with others. But I think trying to communicate with others telepathically may be close to crossing the line.

Perhaps their own psychic defense system would block anything unwanted. But I think there may be the risk of giving what is not asked for. Just something I thought I'd mention.

 

[bozadi]

Thank you for mentioning the possibility, 3D Student. Yes, trying to send telepathic messages to certain people in our lives might, if the message or messages are really taken, not be welcome at all even if the messages are really positively oriented. But maybe with one or two exceptions, which did not continue anyway, I have been relatively slow and careful about whom I choose to contact telepathically for giving or sharing certain messages. Those people are still very few and are already very close, with whom I have sincerely shared love at a good extent many times. Like people whom you would most readily like to pray or wish good things for. Family, some relatives and a few close sincere friends. But sometimes, when my focus is not as deep during such irregular practices of mine, I tend to “look at” many other people in my life as well, as if I want them to know what I intend at that moment.

My tendency to value this practice highly is partially because I am not as courageous or daring in actual life conditions as in that practice. But I must also mention that I don’t want my such sporadic intentions towards a relatively pure love among the related individuals to remain in my imaginative world. I consider them as seeds to gradually manifest in the actual life conditions. And I feel that what I do to those people in my imagination is not like giving them orders or instructions. Essentially, I just want them to know what I see and think “from time to time”, and what I believe we can be and do. And you might guess that I don’t find myself sufficiently effective in giving these messages through actions in the dominant conditions of life. I didn’t have the sufficient faith, courage, awareness and strength. And still I don’t have them in a satisfactory level for myself. I suppose that I’m newly awakening, and planning my life based on my current relatively satisfactory awareness of what is going on in the world and in my life. I’m still not in a very good shape and not very optimistic but unlike the past, now I can’t blame it for the lack of a satisfactory reality map, or an awareness of some good possibilities about what is going on in my life, in the world and around the universe.

 

[bozadi]

Although this is or can be known or intuited by so many of us, I’m not sure if it is being sufficiently covered in relatively simpler and more direct ways. I come to notice or remember from time to time that love is not supposed to be kept privately between certain two or a few other individuals, although this is an extremely idealized and simplified view considering our specific and very problematic conditions in the world. I think that we can benefit from questioning and/or remembering the simple existential mechanics of love.

Love -in STO terms, probably- appears to be learning about, acknowledging, and acting in harmony with the true nature of existence. It is about exploring and specializing in the science of being at both worldly and also cosmic levels. We tend to “normalize” our extremely abnormal and subjective life conditions so much that relatively pure/true love relationships we experience or observe appear us as something very desirable and enviable subjective thing. But true love is very objective, non-personal, universal and existential in its roots. (Remember, these speculations might be based on impatient and precarious deductions) We tend to extremely personalize and subjectify it in our STS-dominant conditions.

We are told that all we experience and face in the 3D is eventually about a choice between the paths of being and non-being after all!

Why and how do I dare to make or remind such simplistic speculative deductions which I base on the available data and suggestions in this forum that provides so much help for our inductive and deductive reasoning? You know, the signs are climbing that we are in such a serious transformation process. We observe the increasing psychopathic control efforts of the PTB and, besides, there are the Earth Changes! And I’m aware of, and so thankful for, the suggestion that the C’s make about the perspective that we might adopt in the face of such great and climbing difficulties, destructions and crises, like enjoying the show! We are even reminded how beneficial these increasing “shockers” could be for us to wake up. By the way, as far as enjoyability is concerned, I know that the huge efforts by this specific network are so critical for the thriller to remain enjoyable for us and for all humans at whatever extent possible. I’m endlessly thankful.

Maybe sometimes I anxiously or impatiently (and inadvertently and dangerously?) tend to bring some certain pieces of information together to expedite a possible long-term modal transformation process for myself and as a suggestion for some others. But when I perceive from time to time that the love thing is both the simplest or clearest and also the remotest thing of life, this irritates me and urges me to think on this problem! This is about questioning or examining love as a gravity-like technical/existential principle and using the possible awareness produced by such exploration to better understand the cycles of our very individual and also social life experiences. You know, overcoming the barriers created by those extremely emotional and subjective perceptions of love and examining it possibly as a very “technical” principle of existential operation in the whole universe or through universes.

I think that all our efforts and learnings are inescapably related to the exploration or knowledge of love/being. Maybe it would be better to deal with it more directly, although I’m sure that this has been done here for innumerous times in various ways. This might force us to clarify our minds about what is going on in our individual life, also in the world/universe/existence. But this might also be very difficult and extremely judgmental both towards ourselves and also towards others. But I also perceive that it might also be necessary to strengthen ourselves in many ways so that we can better deal with our STS-programs and also with the global network of psychopaths both individually and also as a network or networks.

Also in connection with love, there is that principle of the eventual absolute oneness with all the existence. You know, this has a kind of scary or vexing aspect for our egos, doesn’t it? I think that this also needs to be addressed within the scope of the knowledge of love/being. Somehow, based on our ego-based STS-programs, we might be causing the most reassuring and soothing reality or realities of life to become our greatest fears! Still I’m not sure if such discussions would be more revealing and beneficial than confusing, over-judgmental, or dissociative. It depends, maybe.

By the way, I think I've pirated the thread to some serious extent, although I believe I've also tried, to certain extent, to cover the answers implied to be sought. I'm sorry and willing for suggestions.

 

[Menna]

My tendency to value this practice highly is partially because I am not as courageous or daring in actual life conditions as in that practice. But I must also mention that I don’t want my such sporadic intentions towards a relatively pure love among the related individuals to remain in my imaginative world

Good...From a work standpoint it wil make it harder to progress with gravity/energy heavy in imagination/intellectual center. It is "hard" from a human 3D perspective to experience situations in person that touch on the emotional center. Some emotions might be felt and not liked other experiences will feel right however for balance intellectual experience is needed but emotional experience is needed as well. It's ok to go slow be kind and gentle with yourself when going places one has never gone before from a human experience standpoint

 

[Babylion]

I really enjoyed reading through this topic and I would agree that only by knowing yourself and helping yourself can you be able to be of benefit to others. You are the only person you can truly change. So choose you not selfishly but in expectation to help others as we are all one anyway.
Only by loving yourself can you love others. Be what you want to see in others
As always much love