I am being attacked, both externally and internally

[monotonic]

I understand that you have little doubt about the nature of your experiences. Maybe you are right, and this is up to you. However your responses here aren't helping us to see why you think so. I don't think it is our fault to think this way, because some members of this forum have had a lot of experience with exactly this kind of problem. Laura has written about problems she had which are not much different. In her case, she did try different forms of treatment (and she's practiced hypnosis, reiki and SRT!), but the ultimate solution was to improve her lifestyle on multiple levels as Psyche described. I don't think there is any quick and easy fix.

 

[Gaby]

If I were to put this post in the straightforward way (which would be rude), it would sound:

I certainly didn't mean it that way, on the contrary, it was offered to help you in your full potential. I did read your SRT session and found it very touching and that is why I chimed in. I hope that you can heal and reach a satisfactory resolution.

This is your journey, but also keep in mind that feedback and networking help us keep perspective of what is at stake and what has helped others. It is not easy!

 

[ella]

If you try to objectively view ALL information I presented in this thread, you might at least take into consideration, that something strange might be going on here, we can be dealing with something, which we do not understand and lack knowledge about it. But if we assume, that nothing like this could be possibly happening, then we can always find an appropriate explanation.

Can you point out where such assumptions were made?

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And what I think another reason of miscommunication here is: why would any aliens bother to attack jasminum, while they do not bother to attack any other member of this forum.

I am not seeing miscommunication here.

[quote author=Jasminum]
I am not claiming, that what I experience is alien attack for 100%, but I give it very high probability. And if you just dismiss it as not possible, then… I do not know what to say.
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Can you point out where anything was dismissed as not possible?

People here including myself are not trying to explain away your experiences. We do not know what is going on - so we can only suggest what we think we would do in such circumstances based on our collective experience.

You seem to be working under the assumption that people are suggesting diet and medical checkup because they do not believe you. You started this thread with that assumption and as far as I can see, you are sticking with it.
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The general tone and meaning of the posts is dismissing, in my opinion, this is the way I feel it, maybe I am wrong. When I talked about supposed attacks, and you do not address it directly, not a word about it, not any question, to make me clarify more, no any discussion what it might be, you just suggest that perhaps it is neurological problem, perhaps it is gluten, it is your diet, lack of knowledge. Nothing really happens. Would you not think it is showing disbelieve? If you believed I was really attacked through alien devises, would it not be an interesting thing to you? Would you not want to know something more?
I am tired now and I cannot think clearly any more. If there are any posts for me, I will answer them tomorrow.

I think I expected something from you, which I should not, I am sorry about it now. Well, you never know, when something you say can help somebody, even to learn at somebody’s mistakes, so just leave this thread as such, as my modest input to this forum.

 

[ella]

If I were to put this post in the straightforward way (which would be rude), it would sound:

I certainly didn't mean it that way, on the contrary, it was offered to help you in your full potential. I did read your SRT session and found it very touching and that is why I chimed in. I hope that you can heal and reach a satisfactory resolution.

This is your journey, but also keep in mind that feedback and networking help us keep perspective of what is at stake and what has helped others. It is not easy!

I am sorry, Gaby, I know you meant well. That was rude. It is all my stupid expectations, which caused me to react emotionally. Sorry.

 

[Nienna]

If I were to put this post in the straightforward way (which would be rude), it would sound:

I certainly didn't mean it that way, on the contrary, it was offered to help you in your full potential. I did read your SRT session and found it very touching and that is why I chimed in. I hope that you can heal and reach a satisfactory resolution.

This is your journey, but also keep in mind that feedback and networking help us keep perspective of what is at stake and what has helped others. It is not easy!

I am sorry, Gaby, I know you meant well. That was rude. It is all my stupid expectations, which caused me to react emotionally. Sorry.

If you have read Laura's series, The Wave, you may remember that The Cs, and Laura, have talked about the frequency resonance vibration (FRV) that each one of us has. The lower the vibration, the more anomalies we attract. Thus, raising our FRVs helps us to get rid of some of those attachments and other "visitors" that we have been attracting, including alien/interdimesional visitors.

Also, mentioned in these books and various posts here on the forum, are ways to raise our FRVs: continuing to accumulate objective knowledge; Working on ourselves, or as G says, cleaning our machines; being careful of believing that things that are not good for us are actually good for us; yes, changing our diet; stopping believing in lies; and on and on.

What we are suggesting is ways for you to raise your FRV higher so that these attacks will quit. There really are reasons why we suggest these things. And, as always, you can either do them, or not do them.

And, as Gaby said, diet really does make one's brain chemicals go all wonky (okay, not her exact words). Grains, dairy and sugar are horrible on the mind, emotions and our physical body. They are also very addictive. That's why so many people do not want to quit them.

And, btw, none of the posts, to me, have been dismissing of you. We are all trying to help. I hope that you can see that. :)

 

[shijing]

Also, mentioned in these books and various posts here on the forum, are ways to raise our FRVs: continuing to accumulate objective knowledge; Working on ourselves, or as G says, cleaning our machines; being careful of believing that things that are not good for us are actually good for us; yes, changing our diet; stopping believing in lies; and on and on.

What we are suggesting is ways for you to raise your FRV higher so that these attacks will quit. There really are reasons why we suggest these things. And, as always, you can either do them, or not do them.

[...]

And, btw, none of the posts, to me, have been dismissing of you. We are all trying to help. I hope that you can see that. :)

Nienna makes some good points here, jasminum. The problem is that we can only work with the data we have at hand -- no one has said that they don't believe you when you describe your experiences, but we have to consider the fact that your problems could have multiple explanations (and to narrow the list down we need to keep bringing in more information); and although Patrick and Heather seem to be sincere and very helpful in a lot of ways, it isn't fair (or smart) of us to expect them to know or be correct about everything (you seemed to come to the same conclusion earlier in this thread when you first talked about their approach to alien implants, and their strategy of trading data for their removal).

You seem to worry that we won't believe you or agree with you about your interpretation of the events that you've described:

If you just assumed, that I might be right (give it 1% only), then you would take into account, that the sensation I am talking about is not generally known to people and you cannot relate to it, this is why I cannot possibly covey it to you [...]

And what I think another reason of miscommunication here is: why would any aliens bother to attack jasminum, while they do not bother to attack any other member of this forum [...]

To the contrary, it is to undermine my experiences or understandings.
Meaning: you lack knowledge and awareness, and you do not even realize that you need them, hopefully SRT will make you realize that and encourage you to work.

Summary: why would any aliens bother to attack jasminum [...]

I think I expected something from you, which I should not, I am sorry about it now.

Well, if you think about it, it is our job to try to give you objective input from other viewpoints, since each person's interpretation is necessarily subjective. It doesn't mean that we don't believe you, but several people above have tried to help by offering other alternatives to consider.

I feel that you are struggling with self-importance -- you've already made up your mind about how to interpret the situation, and are feeling offended by alternative suggestions. From The Fire From Within:

Self-importance is our greatest enemy. Think about it -- what weakens us is feeling offended by the deeds and misdeeds of our fellow men. Our self-importance requires that we spend most of our lives offended by someone.

[...] the fatal flaw is that average men take themselves too seriously; their actions and feelings [...] are all-important. Warriors, on the other hand, not only have a well-thought-out strategy, but are free from self-importance. What restrains their self-importance is that they have understood that reality is an interpretation we make.

This is something we all struggle with, you're certainly not alone in that :) If you'd like to really make use of this situation to Work on yourself, though, it seems like this might be a good place to start. As you said to Gaby above, your expectations caused you to act rudely, so maybe once you're up and feeling more refreshed tomorrow, examining what those really were would be a good place to start?

 

[ella]

If I were to put this post in the straightforward way (which would be rude), it would sound:

I certainly didn't mean it that way, on the contrary, it was offered to help you in your full potential. I did read your SRT session and found it very touching and that is why I chimed in. I hope that you can heal and reach a satisfactory resolution.

This is your journey, but also keep in mind that feedback and networking help us keep perspective of what is at stake and what has helped others. It is not easy!

I am sorry, Gaby, I know you meant well. That was rude. It is all my stupid expectations, which caused me to react emotionally. Sorry.

If you have read Laura's series, The Wave, you may remember that The Cs, and Laura, have talked about the frequency resonance vibration (FRV) that each one of us has. The lower the vibration, the more anomalies we attract. Thus, raising our FRVs helps us to get rid of some of those attachments and other "visitors" that we have been attracting, including alien/interdimesional visitors.

Also, mentioned in these books and various posts here on the forum, are ways to raise our FRVs: continuing to accumulate objective knowledge; Working on ourselves, or as G says, cleaning our machines; being careful of believing that things that are not good for us are actually good for us; yes, changing our diet; stopping believing in lies; and on and on.

What we are suggesting is ways for you to raise your FRV higher so that these attacks will quit. There really are reasons why we suggest these things. And, as always, you can either do them, or not do them.

And, as Gaby said, diet really does make one's brain chemicals go all wonky (okay, not her exact words). Grains, dairy and sugar are horrible on the mind, emotions and our physical body. They are also very addictive. That's why so many people do not want to quit them.

And, btw, none of the posts, to me, have been dismissing of you. We are all trying to help. I hope that you can see that. :)

I will try to explain something, but I already know, that as always, I will not manage to communicate to you, what I would like to communicate.
What I can only say here is that for about two and half years I do nothing more than working on expanding my awareness, gaining all possible knowledge I can, about psychopaths, about world affairs, about cognitive science, spend hours daily on this forum, reading as many recommended books as possible. Taking into account, that I am a late comer, I am far behind you, but I do my best. Besides I really do all in my might to observe myself, introspect and clean my machine, I personally see that I am making really visible progress (or I was before an attack, and still managed to make some during it). I also work on my diet, although that took me a while and came last, I am gluten free, eat a lot of meat, a lot of animal fat, I take supplements, I know, that emotions are chemicals and what we put inside is chemicals and it influence our brain and nervous system, that gluten cause inflammation of the brain, and all these influence our emotions, our thinking, though loops.... My understanding expanded, my awareness expanded, my relations with people greatly improved, my finances greatly improved. I do realize how important all theses is. I read the Wave, I read all transcripts of Cs sessions. What I also know is that I have an inborn potential, a kind of inborn awareness, which gradually develops, helps me see things, also in myself, and guides me through, and thanks to it I am able to work alone, without much feedback.

You do not know all these, because I am not active on the forum, and the reason for this is that I do not feel collinear enough. Maybe that is because when I arrived here, my machine was in terrible state, my mind was muddled and I guess more work on my part was needed. Really a lot. But it also looks like I do not possess the ability to put into words what I would like to express, even though it is slowly becoming better. I can see, how well you communicate with each other, and when I write anything, I never had an impression, judging by your respone, that the meaning of what I tried to express was understood.

What I realized just today, is that I always unconsciously assumed, that since I am here long enough (which now I think most people probably do not even know, that I am here, and are assessing my knowledge by the amount of posts, which is about 60, which means I am new) it is obvious, that I know how important diet is, how important knowledge is, etc., and that at least I know the basics of how world system works, etc. And that is not the case, and the result is that I basically always got the same answers, which made me believe, I am not ready to communicate with you, I am not collinear enough, if you, the wise guys, see me stupid, then I must be stupid, I am not ready yet, so I must work on my own, and made me withdraw.
And last year I worked under very difficult circumstances, which had big influence on my mind, and my emotions and my health, so that was even more difficult for me to communicate.

I also possess some basic knowledge on the subject of frequency resonance vibration (FRV). That is exactly what I think aliens might be doing to me. As I said, before the attack I was doing well, started feeling this connection of mine, so I may expect, that my vibrations were doing fine. Which some Reiki people confirmed, not one, three of them. And it is possible, that what aliens were doing was exactly treating me with for example very low frequency vibrations through the devices, and thus influencing my own vibrations (forced resonance). This is exactly what I suspected. Then the whole process began. Forced changes to my vibrations, deterioration of my aura (soul), shock and fear, farther deterioration, then attachment come, as I could feel them pushing themselves into me at night, then farther deterioration. Can you imagine the vicious circle here? After almost a year, my soul, my energy was in horrible condition. Whatever it was, it was something really serious going on and giving me an advice to change the diet was perceived by me is if you were treating me like a child and I basically felt unwanted here, not worthy. Only now I understand the mechanism. You did not know me, you did not know anything about me, because I did not let you know me.

So now I make an attempt to make up for it. Whoever reads it, please, stop telling me to change my diet and gain knowledge… Please. :) I really know it, I really do.

And as to aliens it is not important for me any longer to discuss this with you, as you also do not know the answer. What I rather wanted from you was some interest, some understanding and emotional support, so that I did not feel so alone with the problem.

I myself want to know the answer and I will keep looking for it, and I will get it, sooner or later, as I know from experience, that I always get answers I search for, even if after 2 years.

 

[Kaigen]

I feel that you are struggling with self-importance -- you've already made up your mind about how to interpret the situation, and are feeling offended by alternative suggestions.

After your last post it is more visible, what Shijing pointed out. It could be good to re-read the whole thread again to see your self from different angle. Like someone else would read your posts first time.
This is really good training. Hope it helps. :)

 

[Al Today]

I will try to explain something, but I already know, that as always, I will not manage to communicate to you, what I would like to communicate.

I am late coming to this thread here. In not knowing much about anything, this statement appears that you've given up, have a set mind, and expect nothing.

What I also know is that I have an inborn potential, a kind of inborn awareness, which gradually develops, helps me see things, also in myself, and guides me through, and thanks to it I am able to work alone, without much feedback.

I used to think along these lines and have learned this is not so, for me. I can't even begin to say how much I have learned about myself from others here in this network. Because of my ego, self-importance, blindness, stubbornness, etc... They see things I cannot, and bring "things" up to my attention. As always though, it's all still up to me what I do with that information. And yes, sometimes it hurts, hurts like hell.

And as to aliens it is not important for me any longer to discuss this with you, as you also do not know the answer.

Nope, I do not know for sure. What I do know is that 1st, normal/regular medical issues need to be investigated, Yes, diet is one. Another are physical issues, and yet there are psychological issues, all need investigation, first. But now, also, implants, aliens and the rest? Would an implant show up on a MRI or CAT Scan? But that thing said to you it was implanted. If spirits/demons/aliens are involved, I have no ability to help. I have no ability to look into your soul area to see what is attached, hanging out with you. How many people here on this Big Blue Marble have these issues and cry out for help? There are a few active threads on spirit releasing though I can't think of their titles, sorry.

What I rather wanted from you was some interest, some understanding and emotional support, so that I did not feel so alone with the problem.

No, you are not alone. People care about you. That's why they reply to your posts. They are trying to help in every way they can. It's hard to help someone when the answer is not known. But they try. We want to help, but for myself... I have no answers for you, but you do have my thoughts and support.

 

[ella]

Nienna makes some good points here, jasminum. The problem is that we can only work with the data we have at hand -- no one has said that they don't believe you when you describe your experiences, but we have to consider the fact that your problems could have multiple explanations (and to narrow the list down we need to keep bringing in more information); and although Patrick and Heather seem to be sincere and very helpful in a lot of ways, it isn't fair (or smart) of us to expect them to know or be correct about everything (you seemed to come to the same conclusion earlier in this thread when you first talked about their approach to alien implants, and their strategy of trading data for their removal).

Yes, I understand you and that is correct, you can only work with the data you have at hand.
As to Patrick, his method of releasing spirits and healing the soul, dissociated parts etc., seems to work wonders. At least in my case it did work perfectly well and others seem to confirm it.

As to aliens, I have reasons to believe that he deals with them the way William Baldwin did or still does, I do not know. And they both lack knowledge about aliens, thus work on incorrect assumptions. It is a pity.

Coming back to his work on the soul, he confirmed many things which I myself thought before the session, and clarified a lot of what I did not know, the dots connected in me, many things, which I did not understand before, made sense now. So I consider his work valuable. But this only works with the date, I have at hand. And as to aliens, even if Patrick did not succeed with agreement with them, but still the session confirmed, that there were aliens, who were working on me one way or another.

You seem to worry that we won't believe you or agree with you about your interpretation of the events that you've described:

If you just assumed, that I might be right (give it 1% only), then you would take into account, that the sensation I am talking about is not generally known to people and you cannot relate to it, this is why I cannot possibly covey it to you [...]

And what I think another reason of miscommunication here is: why would any aliens bother to attack jasminum, while they do not bother to attack any other member of this forum [...]

To the contrary, it is to undermine my experiences or understandings.
Meaning: you lack knowledge and awareness, and you do not even realize that you need them, hopefully SRT will make you realize that and encourage you to work.

Summary: why would any aliens bother to attack jasminum [...]

I think I expected something from you, which I should not, I am sorry about it now.

Well, if you think about it, it is our job to try to give you objective input from other viewpoints, since each person's interpretation is necessarily subjective. It doesn't mean that we don't believe you, but several people above have tried to help by offering other alternatives to consider.

I feel that you are struggling with self-importance -- you've already made up your mind about how to interpret the situation, and are feeling offended by alternative suggestions. From The Fire From Within:

Self-importance is our greatest enemy. Think about it -- what weakens us is feeling offended by the deeds and misdeeds of our fellow men. Our self-importance requires that we spend most of our lives offended by someone.

[...] the fatal flaw is that average men take themselves too seriously; their actions and feelings [...] are all-important. Warriors, on the other hand, not only have a well-thought-out strategy, but are free from self-importance. What restrains their self-importance is that they have understood that reality is an interpretation we make.

This is something we all struggle with, you're certainly not alone in that :) If you'd like to really make use of this situation to Work on yourself, though, it seems like this might be a good place to start. As you said to Gaby above, your expectations caused you to act rudely, so maybe once you're up and feeling more refreshed tomorrow, examining what those really were would be a good place to start?

Yes, for sure I already made my mind up about how to interpret the situation and I tried my best to convince you, that this interpretation is right, I clearly see it and I am sorry for that, I shouldn’t have.

Actually as I talk to you now, I am less convinced I am right, but to tell the truth, only a bit less. :) And if I am not right, then I must be paranoid and this would be even more important for me to find out. I believe sooner or later things will clarify for me one way or another.

Self-importance is the issue, sure.

 

[Soluna]

All we can know is that we know little to nothing =( I hope the suggestions here help you perhaps approach things from different perspectives, or have given you different ideas of things to try - as sadly no one can produce a magic cure-all solution!

I hope the networking has helped you feel that you are not alone in this, and have somewhere to discuss your thoughts and maybe feel some emotional support.

Keep trying to take care of yourself =)

 

[ella]

I feel that you are struggling with self-importance -- you've already made up your mind about how to interpret the situation, and are feeling offended by alternative suggestions.

After your last post it is more visible, what Shijing pointed out. It could be good to re-read the whole thread again to see your self from different angle. Like someone else would read your posts first time.
This is really good training. Hope it helps. :)

I have read it again. I know, what you mean, self importance, the form of the post suggests, that I am full of it. I do not deny, I have it. The post seems to be full of self-price and boasting about my achievements. But it is not that simple. There is some message in it, the meaning of which can be understood when taken together with the whole thread, an act of desperation, :) I gathered all my courage to write it and post it here. What I could have done is write it and leave it till next day, settle the emotions down, then work again on the form of it, and leave the meaning the same. It is not easy though to keep the meaning and make it not self-important. If I waited till next day, I know I would just resign from posting it. In short, self importance is there, but not only that, me think. :)

 

[ella]

I will try to explain something, but I already know, that as always, I will not manage to communicate to you, what I would like to communicate.

I am late coming to this thread here. In not knowing much about anything, this statement appears that you've given up, have a set mind, and expect nothing.

What I also know is that I have an inborn potential, a kind of inborn awareness, which gradually develops, helps me see things, also in myself, and guides me through, and thanks to it I am able to work alone, without much feedback.

I used to think along these lines and have learned this is not so, for me. I can't even begin to say how much I have learned about myself from others here in this network. Because of my ego, self-importance, blindness, stubbornness, etc... They see things I cannot, and bring "things" up to my attention. As always though, it's all still up to me what I do with that information. And yes, sometimes it hurts, hurts like hell.

And as to aliens it is not important for me any longer to discuss this with you, as you also do not know the answer.

Nope, I do not know for sure. What I do know is that 1st, normal/regular medical issues need to be investigated, Yes, diet is one. Another are physical issues, and yet there are psychological issues, all need investigation, first. But now, also, implants, aliens and the rest? Would an implant show up on a MRI or CAT Scan? But that thing said to you it was implanted. If spirits/demons/aliens are involved, I have no ability to help. I have no ability to look into your soul area to see what is attached, hanging out with you. How many people here on this Big Blue Marble have these issues and cry out for help? There are a few active threads on spirit releasing though I can't think of their titles, sorry.

What I rather wanted from you was some interest, some understanding and emotional support, so that I did not feel so alone with the problem.

No, you are not alone. People care about you. That's why they reply to your posts. They are trying to help in every way they can. It's hard to help someone when the answer is not known. But they try. We want to help, but for myself... I have no answers for you, but you do have my thoughts and support.

Thank you for your reply. I agree with all you say and thanks for the words of care. I do not understand, what really happened here, the thread developed in different direction I intended. During the conversation I even forgot why I posted the transcript of the session. I did not expect anybody to know what is going on, or help in any practical way. I expected, that my version would be accepted as possible, and I meant to ask you to discuss the subject of free will with me, because somehow I feel it might be the key to solve my situation or at least to help me understand it. As Patrick’s strategy with aliens does not work, I intended to try to look for the different strategy, that could work. I know that if awareness was at place and my soul would have been be in good state, it would not allow abductions to happen. But what, if it is already a done deal. That was what I wanted to ask you about and I even said it in my post.

It was not a good approach, I should have searched the subject myself first on the forum, in transcripts, and only then ask you about it, if in any doubts. And that it what I am going to do now.
At that time I felt disappointed, that the session did not free me, got emotional while talking to you, because of my expectation, so, sorry for that.

 

[davey72]

Thank you for your reply. I agree with all you say and thanks for the words of care. I do not understand, what really happened here, the thread developed in different direction I intended. During the conversation I even forgot why I posted the transcript of the session. I did not expect anybody to know what is going on, or help in any practical way. I expected, that my version would be accepted as possible, and I meant to ask you to discuss the subject of free will with me, because somehow I feel it might be the key to solve my situation or at least to help me understand it. As Patrick’s strategy with aliens does not work, I intended to try to look for the different strategy, that could work. I know that if awareness was at place and my soul would have been be in good state, it would not allow abductions to happen. But what, if it is already a done deal. That was what I wanted to ask you about and I even said it in my post.

It was not a good approach, I should have searched the subject myself first on the forum, in transcripts, and only then ask you about it, if in any doubts. And that it what I am going to do now.
At that time I felt disappointed, that the session did not free me, got emotional while talking to you, because of my expectation, so, sorry for that.

It is only a "done deal" if you think that is even a possibility. IMO

 

[ella]

I know that if awareness was at place and my soul would have been be in good state, it would not allow abductions to happen. But what, if it is already a done deal. That was what I wanted to ask you about and I even said it in my post.

It is only a "done deal" if you think that is even a possibility. IMO

By the “done deal” I meant that I have already been abducted and have the devices installed.