I need a little help with a strange phenomenon

darthdo

The Force is Strong With This One
Hello everyone. I hope this is the correct category to share the experience. Unfortunately English is not my mother tongue and my explanation may not be as smooth as I wanted.

From 5 or six months ago I started reading the material of Cassiopea and the Laura's work. At the same time I began to share this work with a very close friend, with whom we have many common interests, especially in reference to spiritual quest and some response to the meaninglessness of the world in which we operate.

What happened was that on two occasions, while we were on the table after dinner, came into my head casiopeano reflections on the material I wanted to share with her (in fact they were thinking that I'd had at times I was alone and that I thought if I could share with her). Taking the instance I did, but when I start talking I started to feel strange, and I was left with a blank mind, not remembering what i would tell her. The first time I felt that I was talking, but then it was as if I "listened" to speak, only to end with a blank mind. The sensation was accompanied with a sort of buzz and looking at fixed mean something. I noticed the look a little scared of my friend and after that everything went "normal" I asked her if she noticed something strange. During the two occasions she noticed the same thing, a feeling of being inside a bubble where there was noise and pressure to the heart (or a similar feeling). She also noticed that the pupils of my eyes widened a lot, being totally black, except the whites of the eyes obviously, and my skin turned whiter. In addition, she told me she felt a sort of glow brighter around me, if I may say otherwiseI must say that neither had experienced a situation before, so we get scared a little.

Since those times we have not seen for a while. We began to read Barbara Marciniak's book that recommended in the forum and, on one occasion when we started talking about this book and its relation to cassiopeanos, again a reflection that I had wanted to share with her and it happened again by brief moments. It was broad daylight and with my parents and my son in the next room, no doors in between.

As night fell, we started talking about these strange experiences, about what might be, whether good or bad in light of the work of Laura (possessions, attacks, channelings, autosugestion, etc., etc.). In addition, we began to analyze the message of the Pleiadians in connection with the messages of the cassiopeanos and again the phenomenon happened again. This time I wanted to know more and I concentrated on it. My body began to feel heavier and I had to lay in bed. I could not talk, or I could hardly say a word, in no time I lost control, I felt that I could retrieve it again when I wanted, but decided to test what would happen. I only could say a few words to her (which came into my head ... I think), and what bothered me was what she told me later. She was even a physical change in my face, white hair, face more elongated (rectangular), and a sort of well-marked wrinkles on my forehead and cheeks (I do not know if you know the Romulans of star-trek was the most closest we could find).

Regarding the words that I could tell she was just calm, because she was really scared about my change of face (even my beard disappeared), and that together we can do better (improve the channel), but in reality not if it was me, my subconscious, or something else. I can not say because I had never experienced anything like this. Well, the next day we went to a friend of my friend who does Reiki and similar activities, also participated in groups of pipes from the Virgin Mary to the friend Ashtar Sheran, passing through some ascended masters :-[ (I know what you are going to think ... but we had no one else to ask and really we wanted another opinion).

When I arrived I thought that if there was any place where it would be good for something to happen, it would be here, so mentally I ordered it and voila, happened again. My eyes only focused on my friend and was her voice that spoke. Again messages of calm and go to work (study, knowledge), and it was time to act. But again I doubt if it was me, my subconscious mind or "somewhat" more. Then everything happened, but I still felt strange environment.

Then, in the room where she attends to his patients aromatherapy and reiki, the three of us and I started to feel strange again, as she began to ask questions and, well ... I began to respond with the assurance that i never had. I felt my normal body, I could move normally, but I felt weird (looking in all directions, for example) but if I felt alien to respond, I do not know how to explain, the answers came too fluid. Well, the answers did not like her at all, since they were the type to acquire knowledge, study, action, not be fooled, i'm not Ashtar Sheran (although that is what my friend said in a joking tone average. .. I think). The summary, is that she was worried about me since she felt that the entity was not good because she felt no love, and did not speak of love and blessings and all that, well that was a little questioning the fact the work and study. Although I believe it was because they did not fit the way they channeled, for example, Ashtar Sheran.

Well guys, that's a little like what happened to us lately. These phenomena only been when I'm with my dear friend. And I think I should explain that for a long time seeking to channel my higher self, "big brothers", or who could help us out of this whole illusion. If this had happened to me a year ago would be happy, but after reading Laura's work now, more than happy, I am a little worried. Or who do not know what is happening. She told me that perhaps I have very open channels, then anyone can join. On the other hand, can be a mental one, suggestion, or not really. Any opinions would be welcome. I have read similar topics in the forum, but I do not know, I think that not all experiences are equal to others.

Greetings guys and thanks for your patience.
 
Any suggestions? I really appreciate any response as we do not know if my mind games or something else.
Greetings.
 
darthdo said:
Any suggestions? I really appreciate any response as we do not know if my mind games or something else.
Greetings.

People are on holiday and the forum is very slow; patience, please!
 
darthdo, I would be worried if it was me.

If you have read Laura's works, then you know that the only way to get us out of this illusion and the mess that we are all in, is to work on ourselves. To find the help we need inside of us and to network with like-minded people.

Asking for outside help, as in way outside, like in another reality/dimension/density, is leaving yourself open for attack, or so I think.

Laura didn't even try to channel with a board until she had read everything she could get her hands on about channeling so that she would have a base of knowledge with which to work. And then she knew the right questions to ask and how to figure out just what the answers meant. Was it a dead-dude, was it an attachment, did it mean harm.....

I, myself, would not want another entity taking over my body. Not after all I have read.

And looking for someone else to come and save you is just creating more illusion. The only way for us to get out of this illusion is by working on ourselves to see and then control the programs that run us. To help ourselves "see" objectively. That is how to get out of the illusion. Asking someone else to save our buns is just more love and light stuff, hoping that some other beings will come and take care of us, and then, if it happens, we have a whole new set of problems, which could be even worse than what we are experiencing now. We're the only ones that can help us.

I think that you should stop channeling this entity. I really don't think it is something that you should be playing around with.

Your very soul could be at stake. Think about it.
 
darthdo said:
Well guys, that's a little like what happened to us lately. These phenomena only been when I'm with my dear friend. And I think I should explain that for a long time seeking to channel my higher self, "big brothers", or who could help us out of this whole illusion. If this had happened to me a year ago would be happy, but after reading Laura's work now, more than happy, I am a little worried. Or who do not know what is happening. She told me that perhaps I have very open channels, then anyone can join. On the other hand, can be a mental one, suggestion, or not really. Any opinions would be welcome. I have read similar topics in the forum, but I do not know, I think that not all experiences are equal to others.

Greetings guys and thanks for your patience.

Hi darthdo. I totally agree with what Nienna Eluch said. As someone who was messing with the phenomena and was in danger of losing her sanity and probably soul, I can tell you that at this time, and if your personal spiritual development is important to you, it would be best if you would concentrate on cleaning your body from toxins (stabilizing your brain chemistry) and doing the EE program to gradually clean yourself mentally. Only after your mind will be clean of toxicity, you can attempt to communicate with your higher self or anyone else. But if your work on yourself will be sincere, by the time you'll be ready you probably will lose all the interest in messing with "superspectrum". And probably for the best.

In the above quote you were told that you are an open channel and that anyone can join. Well, that's definitely not a good thing. The fact that you experience weird things only when you are around your friend is also highly suspect. It can be anything actually: if she is telling the truth (and I gather you believe that she is sincere) then perhaps her or both of you have high excitability coupled with high suggestibility. And it is a double edged sword. On one hand it might make you a very sensitive and empathic individual (see this article for example) but on the other it makes you wide open to all kind of influences, primarily negative. Here is what John Keel had to say about that in his "Eighth Tower":

...Unfortunately, however, many of the rites performed by modern seekers of truth merely tap the static in the lower reaches of the superspectrum and create a backlash of possession and insanity. [..]

Persons without latent psychic abilities can study metaphysics for years and practice the rites daily without ever hoping to pass the possession stage. Many of the UFO investigators of the past twenty-five years have gone this same sad route and suffered nervous breakdowns, forms of possession, and suicide.

As you can see, the danger of inviting entities who will see you as a tasty snack while feeding your self importance is quite real. Another possibility is that both you and your friend were primed by you (after reading and sharing Laura's material) to experience something strange. And this also implies your high suggestibility and a possibility of being messed with.

Bottom line is, as long as you'll continue to have such experiences, it means that you are in grave danger. And what can help you is to work on cleaning yourself on physical and mental level so anything that will try to hook just won't have anything to hook into.

I sincerely wish you luck with that.
 
Hi darthdo,

I read your post. I am new here; however, I thought to respond just to provide some links of information of what I have been reading.

Perhaps these threads may be of some help.

Psychic Attack: http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=4009.0

And these two threads were suggested in the Psychic Attack thread:

New Attacks: http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=1213

A demon? Or a few: http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=526

Mainly, I agree with what Nienna Eluch and Keit have stated. Please pay heed and take care of yourself.
 
Thank you very much for your responses.

Really this whole experience was totally unexpected for us. If I had something like a year before, for example, when even I did not know the material of Laura, maybe I would be happy, but now, after studying the material, this experience worried me. The strange thing is that happened just after reading all the work, when I'm more on the defensive.

Nienna Eluch said:
Laura didn't even try to channel with a board until she had read everything she could get her hands on about channeling so that she would have a base of knowledge with which to work. And then she knew the right questions to ask and how to figure out just what the answers meant. Was it a dead-dude, was it an attachment, did it mean harm.....

Precisely why I was worried, as I feel that I am not prepared for these experiences.

Keit said:
As you can see, the danger of inviting entities who will see you as a tasty snack while feeding your self importance is quite real. Another possibility is that both you and your friend were primed by you (after reading and sharing Laura's material) to experience something strange. And this also implies your high suggestibility and a possibility of being messed with.

That's strange, we never did anything for this to happen, has happened only when we discussed the material of Laura and the cassiopeans, and well, now last in conjunction with the book by Barbara Marciniak. And thanks for the link you left, is interesting. I'll investigate more on this point.

And kannas, thank you very much for links. I had already read all that I had been looking at the forum an answer to this. I think I'll read it again.

Thank you very much to everyone again.

PS: Sorry if I made mistakes in writing and grammar, I am using a translator to answer, my English is very basic.
 
darthdo said:
PS: Sorry if I made mistakes in writing and grammar, I am using a translator to answer, my English is very basic.

You do not need to worry about mistakes in writing and grammar. What I am worried about is that you will make a mistake and not take up Keit in her suggestions of cleaning your mind and body of toxins.

Please do as she suggests and read through the Ultra Simple diet, clean your body of toxins, and do the Eiriu Eolas program.

These are very important to do. However, it's your choice.
 
Nienna Eluch said:
darthdo said:
PS: Sorry if I made mistakes in writing and grammar, I am using a translator to answer, my English is very basic.

You do not need to worry about mistakes in writing and grammar. What I am worried about is that you will make a mistake and not take up Keit in her suggestions of cleaning your mind and body of toxins.

Please do as she suggests and read through the Ultra Simple diet, clean your body of toxins, and do the Eiriu Eolas program.

These are very important to do. However, it's your choice.

Hello Nienna. Maybe I did not mention but I've been doing what suggested Keit long time. Regarding Eiru've also been practicing. What I have not been able to do is meditation, because I can not understand the audio instructions in English, but I've been trying to translate them bit by bit.

Thanks for your concern, really.
 
darthdo said:
What I have not been able to do is meditation, because I can not understand the audio instructions in English, but I've been trying to translate them bit by bit.

Hi Darthdo,

Maybe you already went through the Prayer of the Soul translation thread. If not, you will probably find it translated into your native language.
 
Hi Darthbo. You are experiencing something weird and there are a few items that I would like to point out or suggest. Firstly, your references to Astar Sheran bother me greatly. Personally I have met Ashtar of the Ashtar Command twice in the dream work and it was bad news and very frightening. It was those moments that led me to discover Laura and the C's looking for answers. After the dreams I searched every New Age book store looking for someone to have info on the face of the alien I met in the dreams. That info was there and that is how I found out this 9 ft tall being was Ashtar, and also in the same book was a sketch of Astar Sheran. He looked actually human but it would not necessarily mean he is a good guy. I strongly suspect that this is the higher level of STS 4th dimension. Nor can one assume the Ascended Masters are the good guys either. The C's explained that the Elohim referenced in the Old Testament went the STS way. And who is to say that the Virgin Mary that some people are in contact with is the real STO Mary or an STS imposter. You would have to have some conversations with them to determine their orientation. So whom ever you are association with, like the Reiki friend or whatever may not be from the STO side of things despite their consious intentions. In fact, you may have programs that certain people are triggering. laura was programmed but overcame the programs with work and a little help from the C's. Or should I say a little Divine Intervention. In regard to being programmed, the C's were emphatic about two things, knowledge protects and only your work on issues can negate the influence of the programs if the effort is there. The following is a link referencing programs, new age triggers and the C's commentary of the situation...

http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/wave11h.htm

I will provide more link information is you request it.

Secondly, something that strikes me as interesting in your perplexing puzzle is the idea, that somehow, you might be having a conflict with your emotional centers as Laura had with her Black Spider incident. It's a possibility or something to investigate which may lead to further answers. You may be experiencing a future path of yourself that looks like it may me STS, but your participation with the Cassiopaean info and Breathing programs is bringing to the surface the potential change of your future path. You will need to read the following to determine if it is applicable. See the part about Eclipsing Realities...

http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=12837.msg110428#msg110428

You might consider not associating around some of the people your are generally connected with and that may involve your friend. Continue the breathing meditation program. That is your best hope of finding the answers to the questions you seek and with some help with the forum members here.

Good luck, and keep us posted on further unusual incidents.
 
darthdo,
Not being a specialist (not yet at least) I waited for more advanced members to give you advices and you had very good and very valuable ones.
The "thing" you have acts against your free will. It is STS The symptoms you describe may reflect a kind of attachment.
Notice what you said:
darthdo said:
I could not talk, or I could hardly say a word, in no time I lost control, I felt that I could retrieve it again when I wanted, but decided to test what would happen.
You accepted to loose control to this "thing"" because you didn't know if it was a good or a bad thing (the phrase just before). Knowledge protects!
I would say: No No No! Fight and resist!
With the meditation and breathing program (I hope the more experienced members to correct me if I'm wrong) you will allow your inner self to clean you and protect you, but only if you have the will, and this will comes with knowledge.
 
thanks for your answers. I suggested it was a healing center for a cleaning of my channels, which can be very open, you think? is a good idea? The center works with ascended masters and those issues ... and I'm not sure that's a good idea.
 
darthdo said:
thanks for your answers. I suggested it was a healing center for a cleaning of my channels, which can be very open, you think? is a good idea? The center works with ascended masters and those issues ... and I'm not sure that's a good idea.

Hi darthdo, I think the best thing you can do is to concentrate on the breathing and meditation program (EE). Going to a 'center for ascended masters' is just more of the same nonsense and you're opening yourself up to possession, attachments or worse. It's a jungle out there and - if I were you - I'd stop messing around with things that can destroy any possibility you have of getting out of here alive or of 'saving your soul'.

Apologies if that is not what you want to hear, but it really comes down to you cleaning your machine and mind/heart - and this takes effort, Work and commitment and has nothing to do with any sort of 'center for ascended masters' or any sort of channeling of the myriad 'gods with a tail'.

If you've not started the breathing and meditation program, I strongly suggest you try it - sounds like it's time to get your house in order, as it were - and kick out those who are 'hanging around after being invited in'! :)
fwiw.
 
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