Just a note about leucine supplementation. Leucine, Isoleucine, and Valine need to be in balance, so it's not a good idea to supplement any one of those amino acids without the others. FWIW.
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Thanks a lot for the info!
I'll digest the whole thing and come back later.
I'll digest the whole thing and come back later.
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Alright. I haven't had the chance yet to discuss the whole thing with him but soon. What I'll do (and shound have done before I guess) if to list his diet in it's entirety, as precisely as possible. Sometimes, the devil's in the details as Ark says a lot.
I've taken quite a bit of time to read through all the things but I'm starting to understand and figure the issue much better (still have work to do though).
So considering the uses of the enzymes he mentionned, how he feels, what's going on and the fact he has a crappy mainstream diet (a lot of it since he works out), I can only conclude that his body has become over-saturated by toxins (for lack of better term). That could certainly explain why he is becoming more sensitive to them and everything requiring the aid of these enzymes (like coffee and meds). He has more than likely damaged his body (liver already is from past drug/alcohol abuse) and now it seems to have a harder time than ever dealing with toxins. He might never completely recover as far as I know, but nevertheless, something can be done to get better, that is a fact and I aim at this.
Detoxification and diet changes are mandatory for the sake of his health. This is one point I will insist on. From there on, it's going to be a matter for him of chosing how far is is ready to make changes for his benefit although, at that point, a ketogenic diet is more than likely what he should aim for (in due time, not too fast of course).
So when I have the diet, I'll post it here with my comments as well. Then I'll proceed to figure out a "battle plan" if you catch my drift and discuss it with you.
Thanks for your help again! I'll keep you updated!
I've taken quite a bit of time to read through all the things but I'm starting to understand and figure the issue much better (still have work to do though).
So considering the uses of the enzymes he mentionned, how he feels, what's going on and the fact he has a crappy mainstream diet (a lot of it since he works out), I can only conclude that his body has become over-saturated by toxins (for lack of better term). That could certainly explain why he is becoming more sensitive to them and everything requiring the aid of these enzymes (like coffee and meds). He has more than likely damaged his body (liver already is from past drug/alcohol abuse) and now it seems to have a harder time than ever dealing with toxins. He might never completely recover as far as I know, but nevertheless, something can be done to get better, that is a fact and I aim at this.
Detoxification and diet changes are mandatory for the sake of his health. This is one point I will insist on. From there on, it's going to be a matter for him of chosing how far is is ready to make changes for his benefit although, at that point, a ketogenic diet is more than likely what he should aim for (in due time, not too fast of course).
So when I have the diet, I'll post it here with my comments as well. Then I'll proceed to figure out a "battle plan" if you catch my drift and discuss it with you.
Thanks for your help again! I'll keep you updated!
Shyntarra
A Disturbance in the Force
The first step is a entire purification run down!!!
He will not progress with the body's stored toxic build up in his fat cells.
The restimulations that occur when drug residues are stored in our fat cells-- trigger all the effects one had at the time of taking the drugs or alcohol or sleeping pills.
Any mental emotional physical happenings that he had while doing take or drinking drugs/pills/alcohol will all be stored in the fat cells.
The only real way to get the entire body mind and spiritual levels purified is to do a complete purification run down.
I had taken psych drugs, sleeping meds, alcohol marijuana etc and was not a well person.
They are designed to totally destroy the person and usually do, but this incredible purification procedure I did totally gave me my life back, and my family's too!
I kid you not those drugs will destroy a being, if not quickly over a period of time. I have complete compassion for what your father is enduring. There is a solution an actual solution that can truly clean him and his life up and give some comfort to those who are close and dear to him. Because it can be teh most painful thing to watch--your loved one not well and not getting better.
It is called the PURIFICATION RUNDOWN and it literally saved my life, and the other people who have done this have said the same.
The best thing is that you get out ALL the entirety of the drugs and alcohol stored in the fat cells. And one never gets an urge to drink or do drugs again, it can never be triggered once it is gone from the fat cells.
If you would like the link to the place where i did mine I will more l=than like to help you out.
Someone did the same for me and It saved my life.
Awaiting your response.
He will not progress with the body's stored toxic build up in his fat cells.
The restimulations that occur when drug residues are stored in our fat cells-- trigger all the effects one had at the time of taking the drugs or alcohol or sleeping pills.
Any mental emotional physical happenings that he had while doing take or drinking drugs/pills/alcohol will all be stored in the fat cells.
The only real way to get the entire body mind and spiritual levels purified is to do a complete purification run down.
I had taken psych drugs, sleeping meds, alcohol marijuana etc and was not a well person.
They are designed to totally destroy the person and usually do, but this incredible purification procedure I did totally gave me my life back, and my family's too!
I kid you not those drugs will destroy a being, if not quickly over a period of time. I have complete compassion for what your father is enduring. There is a solution an actual solution that can truly clean him and his life up and give some comfort to those who are close and dear to him. Because it can be teh most painful thing to watch--your loved one not well and not getting better.
It is called the PURIFICATION RUNDOWN and it literally saved my life, and the other people who have done this have said the same.
The best thing is that you get out ALL the entirety of the drugs and alcohol stored in the fat cells. And one never gets an urge to drink or do drugs again, it can never be triggered once it is gone from the fat cells.
If you would like the link to the place where i did mine I will more l=than like to help you out.
Someone did the same for me and It saved my life.
Awaiting your response.
Hi Shyntarra, welcome to the forum.
We recommend that new forum members introduce themselves on the Newbies board. You don't have to write anything personal, just a bit about you and how you found the forum.
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Hi Shyntarra,
Thanks for taking the time to reply.
Yes. This is important and is already take into account.
That is not really the case with him. The effects he is confronted to are way different from the effects of the drugs he used to take some 27+ years ago.
Are you saying emotions are also stored in fat cells? I'm sorry but I am not following you here.
There are many good threads about detox processes and meditation on this section of the forum. And I have taken drugs as well (over-abused them) and was indeed not well at all.
Okay.
I think it is already a well-known fact. I have also went through sever drug addiction like I said so believe me, I know how bad they can be. I almost died and could have more than once.
Thank you.
I think the issue here has to do with far more than the drugs he took during his younger days. The truth is that most of what people eat through a mainstream diet is loaded with chemicals and toxins - both natural and artificial.
And as far as drug "triggers" are concerned and as far as he says, they are long gone.
I appreciate very much your concern but for now, I'll stick with what I can get from here. I think we already covered many points and on top of it, I have no idea of what the "purification rundown" you talk about is. I don't mean to be rude by the way.
But before posting it here, I suggest you take some time to read this section of the forum (diet and health) so that you don't talk about things that have already been covered. Or you can use the search function using key words which is also great.
Thanks again.
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I discussed with my dad today and we will meet this week end for my birthday so I'll start giving him some info and get to write his diet down so I can post it here. I already feel some preemptive resistance from him (he told me he doesn't think his diet has anything to do with it) but I know he's not entirely closed. I'll keep y'all updated.
Peace.
Thanks for taking the time to reply.
Shyntarra said:
Yes. This is important and is already take into account.
That is not really the case with him. The effects he is confronted to are way different from the effects of the drugs he used to take some 27+ years ago.
Are you saying emotions are also stored in fat cells? I'm sorry but I am not following you here.
There are many good threads about detox processes and meditation on this section of the forum. And I have taken drugs as well (over-abused them) and was indeed not well at all.
Okay.
I think it is already a well-known fact. I have also went through sever drug addiction like I said so believe me, I know how bad they can be. I almost died and could have more than once.
Thank you.
I think the issue here has to do with far more than the drugs he took during his younger days. The truth is that most of what people eat through a mainstream diet is loaded with chemicals and toxins - both natural and artificial.
And as far as drug "triggers" are concerned and as far as he says, they are long gone.
I appreciate very much your concern but for now, I'll stick with what I can get from here. I think we already covered many points and on top of it, I have no idea of what the "purification rundown" you talk about is. I don't mean to be rude by the way.
But before posting it here, I suggest you take some time to read this section of the forum (diet and health) so that you don't talk about things that have already been covered. Or you can use the search function using key words which is also great.
Thanks again.
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I discussed with my dad today and we will meet this week end for my birthday so I'll start giving him some info and get to write his diet down so I can post it here. I already feel some preemptive resistance from him (he told me he doesn't think his diet has anything to do with it) but I know he's not entirely closed. I'll keep y'all updated.
Peace.
From Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purification_Rundown
While we agree that niacin can be a useful supplement, like everything, its use is context specific and it cannot be considered the answer to every problem.
We also consider the use of the FAR Infrared sauna as highly beneficial in detox processes. This is described in detail in the book "Detoxify or Die" by physician, Sherry Rogers. There is also a thread on the forum here about the FIR sauna. Again, it's not the total answer and its use is context specific.
The health of some individuals is fragile and strong measures such as are advocated in this program can be downright dangerous. LRH tended to get an idea that was going in the right direction and run it off the tracks again and again. This detox method appears to be of that ilk.
The best basic books for understanding what to do, how to do it, how to interface your own efforts with the efforts of your physician, are "Detoxify or Die" mentioned above, "Life Without Bread" by Lutz and Gedgaudas' "Primal Body, Primal Mind." All of these books take into account that some individuals may be in fragile states and emphasize that a sympathetic physician needs to be involved in recovery from toxicity induced conditions.
Finally, what we have found is that one of the main things that EVERYONE can do right away to begin the process of recovery from anything or prevention of future illnesses, is to eliminate gluten, casein and simple carbohydrates from the diet. Once this is done, an increase in saturated fats is very helpful. (But don't increase fats UNLESS you first decrease to a bare minimum any carbohydrates). This, alone, can remove drug cravings and stimulate the natural activity of the liver to ongoing detoxification. Of course, many individuals who are very toxified need to approach this slowly and judiciously, possibly including digestive aids during the fat increase process.
So, thanks for dropping by, but no thanks to your CoS Extreme "Purification Rundown".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purification_Rundown
While we agree that niacin can be a useful supplement, like everything, its use is context specific and it cannot be considered the answer to every problem.
We also consider the use of the FAR Infrared sauna as highly beneficial in detox processes. This is described in detail in the book "Detoxify or Die" by physician, Sherry Rogers. There is also a thread on the forum here about the FIR sauna. Again, it's not the total answer and its use is context specific.
The health of some individuals is fragile and strong measures such as are advocated in this program can be downright dangerous. LRH tended to get an idea that was going in the right direction and run it off the tracks again and again. This detox method appears to be of that ilk.
The best basic books for understanding what to do, how to do it, how to interface your own efforts with the efforts of your physician, are "Detoxify or Die" mentioned above, "Life Without Bread" by Lutz and Gedgaudas' "Primal Body, Primal Mind." All of these books take into account that some individuals may be in fragile states and emphasize that a sympathetic physician needs to be involved in recovery from toxicity induced conditions.
Finally, what we have found is that one of the main things that EVERYONE can do right away to begin the process of recovery from anything or prevention of future illnesses, is to eliminate gluten, casein and simple carbohydrates from the diet. Once this is done, an increase in saturated fats is very helpful. (But don't increase fats UNLESS you first decrease to a bare minimum any carbohydrates). This, alone, can remove drug cravings and stimulate the natural activity of the liver to ongoing detoxification. Of course, many individuals who are very toxified need to approach this slowly and judiciously, possibly including digestive aids during the fat increase process.
So, thanks for dropping by, but no thanks to your CoS Extreme "Purification Rundown".
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Thank you Laura. This sums it up well.
Indeed my father looks like he's very intoxicated so he will mostly have to "take it easy" (not go too fast).
Gluten is right down on the top of the no-no list. He eats quite a lot of it and will definitely have to cut is out ASAP. Now he used to abuse opiates back in the days so perhaps the fact that gluten binds to those receptors makes it all worst for him.
I'll meet him on the week end and check his entire menu. I'm not sure yet if he takes protein supplements for his workout (his wife does though) and that is mostly made of casein and other bad things. My roommate has a 5 lbs bucket of that crap and just looking at the ingredient list gave me chills. Not to mention the horrible scam that it represents. Milk serum + reverse osmosis = $$$2.
I'll advise him to start cutting carbohydrates but as you point out, not too fast. I think he should definitely at least cut on fructose and as Magan have suggested, use sugar in all its forms sparingly instead until he goes further into the replacement with high quality fat (that is if he decides to do so). Fat-wise, I'll at least advise him to replace vegetable oil with animal fat. He has already given up margarine for butter following my advise a while ago.
My dad does fart a LOT and it smells VERY bad, kind of like rotten cabbage [death], not to mention when he goes to the bathroom (dear God). So yeah, not a good sign at all.
This will probably be a great lesson for me. I love my dad and want him to get better but it'll come down to his own choices.
Peace.
Indeed my father looks like he's very intoxicated so he will mostly have to "take it easy" (not go too fast).
Gluten is right down on the top of the no-no list. He eats quite a lot of it and will definitely have to cut is out ASAP. Now he used to abuse opiates back in the days so perhaps the fact that gluten binds to those receptors makes it all worst for him.
I'll meet him on the week end and check his entire menu. I'm not sure yet if he takes protein supplements for his workout (his wife does though) and that is mostly made of casein and other bad things. My roommate has a 5 lbs bucket of that crap and just looking at the ingredient list gave me chills. Not to mention the horrible scam that it represents. Milk serum + reverse osmosis = $$$2.
I'll advise him to start cutting carbohydrates but as you point out, not too fast. I think he should definitely at least cut on fructose and as Magan have suggested, use sugar in all its forms sparingly instead until he goes further into the replacement with high quality fat (that is if he decides to do so). Fat-wise, I'll at least advise him to replace vegetable oil with animal fat. He has already given up margarine for butter following my advise a while ago.
My dad does fart a LOT and it smells VERY bad, kind of like rotten cabbage [death], not to mention when he goes to the bathroom (dear God). So yeah, not a good sign at all.
This will probably be a great lesson for me. I love my dad and want him to get better but it'll come down to his own choices.
Peace.
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Laura said:
Excellent idea. And I'll make sure to read them in their entirety as well.
I have found them at very reasonable prices on Amazon. Detoxify or Die isn't available though so I'll try to find it somewhere else.
I've tried to order them right now but the problem seems to be concerning payment methods. On amazon.com they say I can use my bank account directly but on amazon.ca, I need either a credit card or gift card (I have neither). Can't use paypal either.
Could I use my bank account from Québec, Canada on amazon.com directly or is that only for the USA?
Sorry, I really suck at ordering online.
Thanks.
JayMark said:
I don't think you can use your bank account for Amazon.com. Does your bank offer a debit card for your bank account? If they do, you would be able to use that as a credit card.
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Shane said:
Well yes, I have a debit card. I'll check if it can work this way. They just don't mention it in the payment method section so that's why I was wondering.
Laura said:
Yes.
Laura said:
Good! They are out of it on amazon.ca. If I can find a payment method working on amazon.com, I'll order it right now as well.
Thanks.
