Iceland volcanic ash alert grounds UK flights

I just went to the store and the headline of the eveningpaper was screaming:"Ashcatastrophe-cold summers are to be expected!"

And it just hit me: this thing going on is the perfect explanation for the weather to become colder. In this way they don't have to explain how the global warming didn't become a reality after all.

Just my 2 cents, fwiw.
 
Paragon said:
The sky above Glasgow yesterday was so blue and clear it was an amazing sight. I've never seen the sky that blue and the sun was really quite bright. Absolutely no contrails and very few clouds until later on in the evening.I wonder if more people on SOTT that live in the UK also thought this?


This must have been what it was like before all the commercial airlines became a common sight in the skies. Quite extraordinary looking up at the sky and seeing no planes or contrails.


I have to agree with you Paragon, I'm based in Leeds and we've had 2 beautiful, sunny days with clear blue skies! I live under a flight path and I can really tell the difference. :cool: Oh, to live in a toxin-free world.. :rolleyes:
 
Paragon said:
The sky above Glasgow yesterday was so blue and clear it was an amazing sight. I've never seen the sky that blue and the sun was really quite bright. Absolutely no contrails and very few clouds until later on in the evening.I wonder if more people on SOTT that live in the UK also thought this?

It's been similar on the East coast around Aberdeen. Really sunny for a while now with no dust . And none of those spectacular sunsets either.

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Aragorn said:
I just went to the store and the headline of the eveningpaper was screaming:"Ashcatastrophe-cold summers are to be expected!"

And it just hit me: this thing going on is the perfect explanation for the weather to become colder. In this way they don't have to explain how the global warming didn't become a reality after all.

Just my 2 cents, fwiw.

Like your line of thinking there Aragon. With Airports now disrupted all over the globe, it could be the perfect scapegoat.
 
Normal said:
Icelandic web cam showing the ongoing eruption of Eyjafjallajökull: http://eldgos.mila.is/eyjafjallajokull-fra-valahnjuk/

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I found it interesting that there are videos of trucks driving through the volcanic ash in Iceland. I was under the impression that volcanic ash wreaks havoc on auto engines as well due to air intake. Amazing how several days of no air travel leaves the skies so clear, though...
 
Well, I'm in the UK and today I not only enjoyed a wide cloudless sky, as blue as ever, but also saw a helicopter and a rotor blade airplane, as well as a couple of those gliders (the ones that are like cockpit airplanes without an engine), which need another craft to pull them off the ground. As well as a couple of rotor blade gliders. So all of those are ok to fly around? (Just asking.)

Eboard10 said:
Update: Plus I'm also of the opinion that closing all the airports isn't necessary. Hell, the whole of NW Europe has been closed; I don't remember them closing all the Mediterranean air space when Mount Etna erupted, and it does emit large amounts of ash itself.

That's a very good point. It would be interesting to collect a few historical cases of volcanoes and compare how much air traffic was grounded, in what area and for how long. I keep getting the impression that the response is disproportional.
 
I think that this “volcano ash cloud” will be used for a number of things, such as “cold summer phenomenon explanation”. But also will be used for another social conditioning. The goal probably is to prepare people for times when traveling will be forbidden and to make people more obedient (if it is any possible). One of the consequences will be getting all European regional air traffic control centers under one central and thus controlling air traffic with more ease.

1. Clouds from erupting volcanoes go higher than flying corridors.

2. Main danger for planes (or more exact plane’s engines) is from dust.

3. Dust is particles. Particles are dispersing. It’s not “cloud traveling in one solid block and hitting air planes” as they presenting it on TV. Some percentage of the dust fall to the ground (and keep falling, not traveling around globe on their own in massive percentage) because of falling and other atmospheric conditions, winds and humidity for example, density of the clouds becomes lighter, all the way until it becomes no danger for planes. Also because of great height of the cloud there is good chance that big part would be catched by jet stream and dispersed more to the east, and not so to the south (Europe) in big percentage.

Even if dust travels in dangerous density far away, there is no reason to ground all air traffic. Planes can be sent higher or lower than the clouds of dust. Modern air control centers can know in each second shape, position and density of the clouds, and reroute planes accordingly.


Dangerous cloud would look from the ground like thick stormy clouds in the noon in order to be dangerous for planes. What I want to say that cloud of ash which would be danger for flying must be VERY visible with bare naked eyes from the ground beneath it.
 
It would seem that this plum is going to settle to the ground over a long period time . With some areas seeing more ash than others. Perhaps a consideration in the investment of respirators to keep on hand if does reach your location. As a preventive measure for ourselves and family alike. :huh:

Volcanic ash consists of rock, mineral, and volcanic glass fragments smaller than 2 mm (0.1 inch) in diameter, which is slightly larger than the size of a pinhead. Volcanic ash is not the same as the soft fluffy ash that results from burning wood, leaves, or paper. It is hard, does not dissolve in water, and can be extremely small--ash particles less than 0.025 mm (1/1,000th of an inch) in diameter are common.


17 April 2010
There is no change today to current health protection advice following latest information provided by the Met Office about the plume of volcanic ash. The ash is mixing in different layers of the atmosphere with small amounts reaching ground level.

The Met Office has advised that no major changes in ground level air pollution concentrations are expected over the UK during the weekend as a result of weather patterns. However it is not possible to predict whether there will be any changes in the pattern of volcanic eruptions and the situation is being kept under close scrutiny.

It is possible that there might be some light rain during the weekend which may cause low concentrations of Icelandic volcanic ash to be deposited across the United Kingdom.

It is important to recognise that the volcanic ash poses no health threat in wet weather as the particles cannot be inhaled under these conditions.

In the event of rain it is anticipated that only very low concentrations of volcanic ash would be deposited in fields and towns and there are unlikely to be significant health effects among the general public when the rain dries.

However, because small quantities of volcanic ash could float back up into the air in windy conditions it would be sensible for people with existing respiratory conditions such as chronic bronchitis, emphysema and asthma to ensure they keep their inhalers or other medications with them.

If people are outside and notice symptoms such as itchy or irritated eyes, runny nose, sore throat or dry cough, or if they notice a dusty haze in the air or can smell sulphur, rotten eggs, or a strong acidic smell, they may wish to limit their activities outdoors or return indoors.

Any such health effects are likely to be short term. The Health Protection Agency, Health Protection Scotland, Public Health Wales and the Met Office will continue to monitor the situation and issue any further advice or updates as necessary.

Any enquiries on the likely duration of the ash plume over the UK should be addressed to the Met Office. Concerns about allotments and gardens should be addressed to the Food Standards Agency.

Children’s Health and Volcanic Ash
Volcanic ash consists of tiny pieces of rock and glass that is spread over large areas by wind. During volcanic ash fall, people should take measures to avoid unnecessary exposure to airborne ash and gases.
Short-term exposure to ash usually does not cause significant health problems for the general public, but special precautions should be taken to protect susceptible people such as infants and children. Most volcanic gases such as carbon dioxide and hydrogen sulfide blow away quickly. Sulfur dioxide is an irritant volcanic gas that can cause the airways to narrow especially in people with asthma. Precaution should be taken to ensure that children living close to the volcano or in low-lying areas (where gases may accumulate) are protected from respiratory and eye irritation.
While children face the same health problems from volcanic ash particles suspended in the air as adults (namely respiratory and irritation of the nose, throat, and eyes), they may be more vulnerable to exposure due to their smaller physical size, developing respiratory systems, and decreased ability to avoid unnecessary exposure. Small volcanic ash particles - those less than 10 micrometers in diameter - pose the greatest health concern because they can pass through the nose and throat and get deep into the lungs. This size range includes fine particles, with diameters less than 2.5 micrometers, and coarse particles, which range in size from 2.5 to 10 micrometers in diameter. Particles larger than 10 micrometers do not usually reach the lungs, but they can irritate your eyes, nose, and throat. The volcanic ash may exacerbate the symptoms of children suffering from existing respiratory illnesses such as asthma, cystic fibrosis, or tuberculosis.
Precautions for Children if Ash is Present
1. Always pay attention to warnings and obey instructions from local authorities.

Check the Air Quality Index forecast (at www.airnow.gov/index.cfm?action=airnow.local) for your area.

Stay alert to news reports about volcanic ash warnings.
2. Keep children indoors.

Children should avoid running or strenuous activity during ash fall. Exertion leads to heavier breathing, which can draw ash particles deeper into the lungs.

Parents may want to plan indoor games and activities that minimize activity when ash is present.

If your family must be outdoors when there is ash in the air, they should wear a disposable mask. If no disposable masks are available, make-shift masks can be made by moistening fabric such as handkerchiefs to help to block out large ash particles.

Volcanic ash can irritate the skin; long-sleeved shirts and long pants should be worn if children must go outdoors.
3.
Children should not play in areas where ash is deep or piled-up, especially if they are likely to roll or lie in the ash piles.
4.
Children should wear glasses instead of contact lens to avoid eye irritation.
5.
Create a “clean room” where children sleep and play to help to minimize exposure to ash in indoor air.

Keep windows and doors closed. Close any vents or air ducts (such as chimneys) that may allow ash to enter the house.

Run central air conditioners on the “recirculate” option (instead of “outdoor air intake”). Clean the air filter to allow good air flow indoors.

Avoid vacuuming as it will stir up ash and dust into the air.



Background
Volcanoes are found throughout the world. Typically they form where tectonic plates come together. Examples include the volcanoes in the area known as the Pacific Ring of Fire which encircles the Pacific Ocean basin. They can also form where thin spots occur in the earth’s crust such as in Yellowstone National Park. Most of the world’s volcanoes are considered to be extinct or dormant with only a few actively erupting. It is possible, however, for a dormant volcano to become active and erupt with little advance warning. A volcanic eruption can range from being relatively gentle such as Hawaii’s Kilauea volcano, to causing widespread damage and effects such as when Mount St. Helens erupted in Washington state.
Hazards
Depending on the type of volcano and the force of the eruption a number of different hazards may be present. They can include mudflows and flashfloods, landslides and rock falls, earthquakes, lava flow, falling ash, and the release of potentially harmful gases. According to the United States Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) the most common cause of death from a volcanic eruption is suffocation.
The concentration and type of gases emitted by volcanoes can vary greatly from one eruption to the next. Typically the gases emitted dissipate quickly in the atmosphere. However, people located close to the volcano or in low-lying areas may be exposed to levels that could affect their health. In addition to water vapor, the type of gases that may be released include acid gases such as carbon dioxide, sulfur dioxide, hydrogen chloride, hydrogen fluoride and hydrogen sulfide.
Usually, the most visible evidence of a major eruption is the plume of ash released high into the atmosphere. This plume of ash can travel long distances from the site of the eruption often causing health and safety issues along the way as it settles back to the ground. Ash is a gritty, abrasive, sometimes corrosive particle. Exposure to volcanic ash can cause irritation to the eyes as well as the respiratory system. For people with existing respiratory conditions such as asthma, emphysema or other chronic lung disease exposure to ash may pose serious health risks.
Respiratory and Eye Protection
The CDC has prepared a document titled “Key Facts About Protecting Yourself During a Volcanic Eruption”. In this document the CDC recommends a number of tips to help protect against the harmful effects from falling volcanic ash. These include:

Stay inside, if possible, with windows and doors closed

Use goggles to protect your eyes

Use a NIOSH approved N95 respirator to help protect yourself while you are outdoors or while you are cleaning up ash that has gotten indoors

Avoid driving in heavy ash fall. If you do have to drive, keep the car windows up and do not operate the air conditioning system.
3M Note: A NIOSH approved N95 or higher rated filter or respirator is capable of filtering volcanic ash. However, some people may also find the odors released during an eruption objectionable. In that case choosing an appropriate respirator or filter for the ash that also incorporates acid gas relief for the odors may be desirable. Goggles selected to help reduce ash from irritating the eyes should be designed to be used for dust. Goggles designed for liquid splash or gas environments are also appropriate. Other considerations for proper goggle selection include the need for impact resistance and use with prescription eye glasses.
Technical Data Bulletin #187
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Respiratory and Eye Protection For Volcanic Eruptions
Additional Resources
For further information concerning the use of respiratory protection for volcanic eruptions, contact 3M at 1-800-243-4630. For more information on volcanoes and the hazards associated with them contact your local emergency management office or one of the following agencies:

CDC (http://emergency.cdc.gov/disasters/volcanoes)

Federal Emergency Management Agency (http://www.fema.gov/hazard/volcano/index.shtm)

U.S. Geological Survey (http://vulcan.wr.usgs.gov/Hazards/framework.html)

Washington State Department of Health (http://www.doh.wa.gov/phepr/handbook/volcano.htm)d
 

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The latest SIGMET (Significant Meteorological Information) for pilots shows that only Zurich and Milano area has some volcanic ash clouds. The rest of Europe has no SIGMET warnings of volcanic ash. Then looking at NOTAMs (Notice To Airmen) Heathrow is closed but Gatwick is open! Even Zurich is open despite the SIGMET warnings of volcanic ash. So is Milan but Copenhagen which has no SIGMET warning is closed due volcanic ash! So are the other airports nearby.

I looked at few other airports around Heathrow like Stansted and Manchester, which are diversion airports for big jets; both these airports are open! So yes, some other agenda is definitely taking place, OSIT.
 
This is starting to look like last year "Swine flu pandemia" hype :)

I really don't think that we will need respirators. Except for people on Iceland maybe.

All those data isn't necessarily true. Especially when the government agencies give them (any government).

If there really is volcanic ash above Milano for example, and especially in quantities which represent danger for flying, I think that all people in Milano would already know that. They would shovel it of their yards. It would be really visible. So, I guess that some member from North Italy area would already inform us of that.

For affecting jet engines dust particles must be large (volcanic are not) or tiny but very concentrated (dense) like flour powder for example.
 
My thought was Wales, Scotland, Ireland, should see any of the first effects if there are any to be. If the PTB can make the earth move are they responsible for this event and maybe more to come? As far as statics I agree with you there.

Certain information is easily pushed under conditions like this, making the general public easier to manipulate. But some of the data comes from recent actvity such as Mt. Helen's eruption and what they learned from that. Which was a significant event covering much more land with in its proximity.

But being forewarned is being prepared and cheap insurance for 6 pack of face mask.
 
from the KLM website: http://www.klm.com/travel/fr_fr/prepare_for_travel/up_to_date/flight_update/index.htm


KLM test flight passes off without problem

KLM Royal Dutch Airlines carried out a test flight this evening between about 19.45 and 21:00 hours CEST in Netherlands airspace using a Boeing 737-800. The flight was carried out to establish whether air quality in the atmosphere meets the requirements for safe flight. No problems were encountered during the flight.

The aircraft was transferred to a hangar on landing where it underwent a thorough inspection. The results have been reported to the Transport and Water Management Inspectorate. The Inspectorate will take the decision on whether flight operations are possible.

KLM President & CEO, Peter Hartman, said: "At first glance there is no reason to suspect that anything is amiss. We observed no irregularities either during the flight or during the initial inspection on the ground. If the results of the technical inspection confirm this impression, we are ready to start by returning seven of our aircraft to Amsterdam from Düsseldorf. We hope to receive permission as soon as possible after that to start up our operation and to transport our passengers to their destinations." KLM Executive Vice-President Operations, Ype de Haan, was also on board the flight with Peter Hartman as an observer.

The aircraft flew to 41,000 feet (altitude of approximately 13 kilometres), which is the maximum altitude for this type of aircraft. KLM expects to receive the final results of the technical inspection tomorrow morning.
 
This is ironic; the Sun here in England is bright, no sign of ash nor clouds and of course the only thing you read on newspapers is the "huge cloud of volcanic ash covering Europe". Not even a tiny article on how odd it is for the weather to be so nice when the skies are supposed to be covered by ash up to 10km of altitude, which is of course the altitude of most international flights.
 
Prof Peter Sammonds: The science behind ash cloud

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/8622389.stm

Airlines 'unconvinced' by threat of dust cloud

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8628000.stm?ls

Chaos at Ferry terminal as thousands return home

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/8628125.stm?ls
 
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