I'm going to be an uncle...maybe

fabric said:
Good news! We met on the weekend and she is going to keep the baby. She feels that is the right thing to do and is okay with it. We're all very excited and if all goes well, there'll be a new member of the family!

Very cool Fabric! Congrats to her, the dad and your family :flowers: I wish her all the best in her pregnancy and new life as a mom.

fabric said:
We also started talking about circumcision and she's not sure about that yet. She wanted to know what the problem with that was (aside from it basically amounting to torture) and I remember there was a good article on either SoTT or here I wanted to share with her. I found thread but I thought there was another one too.

The good thing is that they both don't trust the mainstream and are open reading and researching to really know what are the best things they can do for the baby.

It's good that they're open to reading stuff and bettering themselves!

Perhaps this article would be good to share?

http://www.sott.net/articles/show/229627-Foreskin-Man-Takes-On-Genital-Mutilation
 
Congratulations to her and your family, fabric!

Although I am still little bit uneasy about this whole thing, and I am going to put my judgment aside, I hope that we all can do the best for her baby to be loved and protected. Let me know if there is anything I can do to help! :flowers:

Deedlet said:
Perhaps this article would be good to share?

http://www.sott.net/articles/show/229627-Foreskin-Man-Takes-On-Genital-Mutilation

This is definitely a good article to recommend! I hope they do not follow the "mainstream" for this one...I really do...
 
Thanks Deedlet, that was the article I was thinking of....

Aya said:
Although I am still little bit uneasy about this whole thing, and I am going to put my judgment aside, I hope that we all can do the best for her baby to be loved and protected. Let me know if there is anything I can do to help! :flowers:

At first I felt uneasy as well, but after hanging out and talking with them, they are sure this is what they want and I'm cool if they're cool ;)
And, they'll be really happy to see you to share the news!
 
fabric said:
At first I felt uneasy as well, but after hanging out and talking with them, they are sure this is what they want and I'm cool if they're cool ;)
And, they'll be really happy to see you to share the news!

It's good to know that they are confident with their decision. :flowers: There is going to be a lot of work to do!!
 
I wasn't sure which thread on circumcision to put this on, however, the discussion below on to 'circumcise or not' just came up on my Facebook page today. Naturally, I saw a great opportunity to respond.

Interesting to see people's views and tolerance about it today. Am glad that I never acted 'on behalf of' my son Michael, even though his father (Irish/Jesuit school) was circumcised. Especially now we have the true facts gathered here. Psychopathic manipulation and control in every single sector!!!

Questioner
Moms with kids and guys can you weigh in on this? My OB asked if I wanted to have the baby circumcised and I don't want to make the wrong decision, so what are your thoughts?



Saa. (female)
We did research and thought we were going to do it and then when he was born we couldn't go through with hurting our tiny little baby. Our friend was so against circumcision and isn't so he is our go to guy if we have questions. No problems so far. Talk to men who are and aren't... If they were to have been able to make the choice, what would they have chosen. You are making a decision for your child that they aren't consulted about for their body... I'm glad we didn't. Its not necessary.

Mel. (female)
It's completely your choice. We chose not to. The Canadian Academy of Pediatrics does not support routine circumision. My stance is: Not my penis, what gives me the right to alter it? If Lucas decides to have it done later, that's his choice.
A friend of mine wanted to do it so the baby would look like dad, but my response was that the baby's penis won't look like his dad's anyway for the next 18 years!

Steven.
Lolnonononono ouch OW

Questioner
Yes I'm seeing a trend here... I was leaning towards yes until I actually thought about it when I found out I was having a boy, and then I was leaning a lot more towards no... just wondering if anyone out there was going to say, do it, you have to, for your boy! But it seems like that's not where this is going.

Dan (male)
No, it's cruel and borne out of an ancient desire to subdue sexuality. Hygiene is just an excuse for barbarism.

Dan
YAY for the little boy btw :)

Erik
as a nothern european guy I just don't get it... why would you want to do that or decide this for your boy? is this a religious question? are there medical reasons? every time I hear something like this I'm just totally irritated...

Questioner.
Seems to be a North American thing I guess, most hospitals used to do it unless you told them not to. It can be a religious thing, but mostly they used to consider it a medical thing for hygiene... but I guess that's becoming very quickly outdated.

Erik.
yes, i know - but I'm asking *you*... :) I might be able to understand it if it's really important to you in regard to religion. but just because of conventions or some seemingly important hygienic reasons I'd stay away from it. he can and will do it later if he thinks that it is important for *him*. just my 2 cents... (and no, I'm not circumsized and never had any hygienic issues whatsoever)

Questioner:
Not important to me, just didn't want to make the wrong decision for him, and not having a penis myself I wasn't sure what the right choice was

Steven
you shouldn't allow your son to risk missing out on potential hygiene problems! that's what life is all about

Justine
My dad had a circumcision when he was 35 years old. He had consistent urinary track infections until after he had it done. It was apparently extremely painful to have it done as an adult because .. Well.. When you are a man.. You get erections. He had to avoid all things sexually suggestive because if he got an erection, the stickers would definantly tear and he could potentially bleed to death. Check your family history as well as the daddy's fam hist.

Justine
Stitches

Patty
You may also want to consider his fathers culture.

Dallas
Well I had my two boys done. It takes like 2 mins and back in your arms ASAP and both my boys were fine and never cried. It does make it easy to keep clean from now till they do it them self. I'm not against not doing it just its something our family did and so on. It's up to but I'm for it. But it's up to you.

Laura
My husband is done, but none of his son's (he has 3 and one on the way) are done. When we had Ethan we talked about it and he left it up to me. On one hand if we did it he would look like his dad, but on the other hand if he didn't have it done he would look like his brothers. Either way it didn't matter to him. What ultimately determined it for us was cost. We thought it was silly to pay for something that didn't need to be done. As long as you take the time to teach them how to clean themselves properly, hygein will not be an issue. My sister got both her boys done and says she would do it again if she had another boy. Whatever you choose to do I think that it is great that you are asking for advice and getting as much info as you can.

Rauber
Patty Spicer You may also want to consider his fathers culture. No, dont do that. Why keep repeating questionable patterns? Do what feels right for your child.

Maverick
I say do it. Think about all the ladies he'll one day encounter. THEY want him circumed.

Hannu (female)
I never heard to be asked in hospital about that. That's weird and NOT (!!!) necessary and I think, you should left this decision your boy. It's his body. Dear Maverick, girls in other part of the world don't ask for that.

My response, plus a plug for the site.

A very important topic - especially for Women's Day. Do we really NEED to do this to the babies we love? An emphatic NO! Much true research is now out there on the psychological traunma such pain and abuse of the baby's trust/bond with his mother actually causes. Explore for your own knowledge. Those that said NO here also have genuine reasons too - especially regards 'doing it just cos everyone else did'... you know the example...jump off a mountain cos??? Really good you posed this question Sarah. Yes there is 'free will' - but what about the 'will' of the child barely on this world a few days, and what an introduction/welcome. I wish to share this on our Cassiopaea.org Forum if you guys don't mind to add to the deep research already gathered there by caring people like yourselves.

FWIW there is a good article here: "Foreskin Man" Takes On Genital Mutilation
Joe Quinn
Sott.net
Mon, 06 Jun 2011 15:00 CDT

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Hi,

Just wanted to send an update that all is well, and a new baby boy, Liam was welcomed to Earth on Feb 3, 2012! (Yea I know I'm a little slow on the post).

Unfortunately my sister had to give birth by way of C-section, as he decided in his last few days before the due date to flip over on his side and practice the splits, so it made it difficult to turn him around and it was too risky to wait for him to right himself esp. so close to his due date. I felt bad cuz she was planning on having a home birth and found a great midwife to take care of everything. If you haven't seen it, I recommend watching The Business of Being Born, it's a documentary on the whole 'birthcare' system in the US and how abysmally inadequate it is when it comes to caring for the mother and child. Anyway, that film is what inspired her to go the home birth route. Although it didn't happen as hoped, he was born without any complications and very healthy. The hospital she went to was decent as they let them hold the baby right away for skin contact and did not whisk him away to pump him full of vaccines and other evils. The were back home after a couple of days off to start their new adventures.

Oh yea, and other thing I forgot to mention, they didn't go with the circumcision. I think part of it was that they did read up on it, but the main deterrent? Hospital was charging $300 to perform the procedure as it's not covered under Health Canada, figured that money was better put to use to buy things the baby would actually need ;D

Here is the little one, at 4 days old....
 

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Congratulations fabric! Thanks for sharing the picture. He certainly is adorable. Glad to hear he and your sister are doing well. My daughter's birthday is February 3rd as well. :)
 
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