I wasn't sure which thread on circumcision to put this on, however, the discussion below on to 'circumcise or not' just came up on my Facebook page today. Naturally, I saw a great opportunity to respond.
Interesting to see people's views and tolerance about it today. Am glad that I never acted 'on behalf of' my son Michael, even though his father (Irish/Jesuit school) was circumcised. Especially now we have the true facts gathered here. Psychopathic manipulation and control in every single sector!!!
Questioner
Moms with kids and guys can you weigh in on this? My OB asked if I wanted to have the baby circumcised and I don't want to make the wrong decision, so what are your thoughts?
Saa. (female)
We did research and thought we were going to do it and then when he was born we couldn't go through with hurting our tiny little baby. Our friend was so against circumcision and isn't so he is our go to guy if we have questions. No problems so far. Talk to men who are and aren't... If they were to have been able to make the choice, what would they have chosen. You are making a decision for your child that they aren't consulted about for their body... I'm glad we didn't. Its not necessary.
Mel. (female)
It's completely your choice. We chose not to. The Canadian Academy of Pediatrics does not support routine circumision. My stance is: Not my penis, what gives me the right to alter it? If Lucas decides to have it done later, that's his choice.
A friend of mine wanted to do it so the baby would look like dad, but my response was that the baby's penis won't look like his dad's anyway for the next 18 years!
Steven.
Lolnonononono ouch OW
Questioner
Yes I'm seeing a trend here... I was leaning towards yes until I actually thought about it when I found out I was having a boy, and then I was leaning a lot more towards no... just wondering if anyone out there was going to say, do it, you have to, for your boy! But it seems like that's not where this is going.
Dan (male)
No, it's cruel and borne out of an ancient desire to subdue sexuality. Hygiene is just an excuse for barbarism.
Dan
YAY for the little boy btw :)
Erik
as a nothern european guy I just don't get it... why would you want to do that or decide this for your boy? is this a religious question? are there medical reasons? every time I hear something like this I'm just totally irritated...
Questioner.
Seems to be a North American thing I guess, most hospitals used to do it unless you told them not to. It can be a religious thing, but mostly they used to consider it a medical thing for hygiene... but I guess that's becoming very quickly outdated.
Erik.
yes, i know - but I'm asking *you*... :) I might be able to understand it if it's really important to you in regard to religion. but just because of conventions or some seemingly important hygienic reasons I'd stay away from it. he can and will do it later if he thinks that it is important for *him*. just my 2 cents... (and no, I'm not circumsized and never had any hygienic issues whatsoever)
Questioner:
Not important to me, just didn't want to make the wrong decision for him, and not having a penis myself I wasn't sure what the right choice was
Steven
you shouldn't allow your son to risk missing out on potential hygiene problems! that's what life is all about
Justine
My dad had a circumcision when he was 35 years old. He had consistent urinary track infections until after he had it done. It was apparently extremely painful to have it done as an adult because .. Well.. When you are a man.. You get erections. He had to avoid all things sexually suggestive because if he got an erection, the stickers would definantly tear and he could potentially bleed to death. Check your family history as well as the daddy's fam hist.
Justine
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Patty
You may also want to consider his fathers culture.
Dallas
Well I had my two boys done. It takes like 2 mins and back in your arms ASAP and both my boys were fine and never cried. It does make it easy to keep clean from now till they do it them self. I'm not against not doing it just its something our family did and so on. It's up to but I'm for it. But it's up to you.
Laura
My husband is done, but none of his son's (he has 3 and one on the way) are done. When we had Ethan we talked about it and he left it up to me. On one hand if we did it he would look like his dad, but on the other hand if he didn't have it done he would look like his brothers. Either way it didn't matter to him. What ultimately determined it for us was cost. We thought it was silly to pay for something that didn't need to be done. As long as you take the time to teach them how to clean themselves properly, hygein will not be an issue. My sister got both her boys done and says she would do it again if she had another boy. Whatever you choose to do I think that it is great that you are asking for advice and getting as much info as you can.
Rauber
Patty Spicer You may also want to consider his fathers culture. No, dont do that. Why keep repeating questionable patterns? Do what feels right for your child.
Maverick
I say do it. Think about all the ladies he'll one day encounter. THEY want him circumed.
Hannu (female)
I never heard to be asked in hospital about that. That's weird and NOT (!!!) necessary and I think, you should left this decision your boy. It's his body. Dear Maverick, girls in other part of the world don't ask for that.
My response, plus a plug for the site.
A very important topic - especially for Women's Day. Do we really NEED to do this to the babies we love? An emphatic NO! Much true research is now out there on the psychological traunma such pain and abuse of the baby's trust/bond with his mother actually causes. Explore for your own knowledge. Those that said NO here also have genuine reasons too - especially regards 'doing it just cos everyone else did'... you know the example...jump off a mountain cos??? Really good you posed this question Sarah. Yes there is 'free will' - but what about the 'will' of the child barely on this world a few days, and what an introduction/welcome. I wish to share this on our Cassiopaea.org Forum if you guys don't mind to add to the deep research already gathered there by caring people like yourselves.
FWIW there is a good article here: "Foreskin Man" Takes On Genital Mutilation
Joe Quinn
Sott.net
Mon, 06 Jun 2011 15:00 CDT
