Imminent Alien Disclosure?

Woodsman

The Living Force
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I've had this thought a couple of times in the past, and yes, it would be a brutal irony. By this point it really seems that a very subtle "eclipsing" of people's true selves into a more ponerised version is the kind of approach taken by those bastard lizards. They kind of amalgamate the host population into their FRV, thus nullifying any potential opposition, or even damping down the host consciousness so that they have little to no awareness of what's really going on.

Following research into the so-called alien reality, I have to say I would welcome things being out in the open though, though sometimes I wonder if this will ever happen, at least not in this density anyway.
Yeah, that's basically my thinking.

Replacement of the current crop of 'containers' with FRV-appropriate bodies for UFO socialist alien souls seems most effectively accommodated by a world-wide gulag processing system.

It's why, I think, the Antifa/BLM/SJW legions are not in the least bit swayed by logic or evidence when it is explained and demonstrated that none of their stated goals are rational or possible. They just switch off and ignore because those aren't their real goals. Their real goal, driven almost certainly from a subconscious programmed imperative, (none of the kids I've talked to know a damned thing, but their energy to act is huge and their co-linearity is evident), -is simply to wipe out all humans and replace them with soy-altered containers.

Any spaceships and direct alien involvement would seem to be just technicians making sure the invasion runs smoothly. Figures off in the wings and behind the curtain managing the lights and props while the dramatics play out on stage in human form.

My guess is that a significant part of their program was to convince people that alien invasions have to look a certain way and to ignore anything which doesn't resemble "Independence Day".
 

Leelee

Padawan Learner
It's why, I think, the Antifa/BLM/SJW legions are not in the least bit swayed by logic or evidence when it is explained and demonstrated that none of their stated goals are rational or possible. They just switch off and ignore because those aren't their real goals.

Perhaps some of these people are the "hybrids" come of age that Dr. David Jacobs talks about in his 1997 book The Threat, bred specifically for these times.
 

Wisteria

Jedi
Wouldn’t it be ironic if that during a “fake” alien invasion the real one would take place. If I were an alien commander that is exactly what I would do

That's pretty standard for us though isn't it? Think of 9/11, 7/7, Event 201. How many others? Always seem to be very coincidental training exercises going on...

And Twitter had a fit:

 

michaelrc

Jedi
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That's pretty standard for us though isn't it? Think of 9/11, 7/7, Event 201. How many others? Always seem to be very coincidental training exercises going on...

And Twitter had a fit:


"Today, we are getting hints from the Navy that U.A.P. or Unidentified Aerial Phenomena have been investigated and monitored in the interests of aviation safety and national security. The UFO story that was first printed in the New York Times and that has spanned three years of investigation is now edging into becoming full disclosure."

What an opportunity that's being presented here. Everyone's being dumbed down by covid, many of us are wondering if we are currently compromising our lungs with wearing mask at work for 8 hours a day and to top that 51 million Americans are concerned about how their gonna pay their bills because of job losses. What better time for disclosure? This isn't going to go like we might think I'm afraid, like all things it will just drip drip drip out slowly and become political. No idea for which side though. Will Trump seize it and not only become the law and order president but also a truther about UFO's? Maybe for many here what comes out or what's further to be disclosed will amount to nothing more than a big yawn. Maybe for the public at large also, l mean how much more can they take. Yup great opportunity but l really don't think it's going to actually pull back any curtains for us.
 

logos5x5

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If anything, I came to the conclusion, as many others here did too I guess, that the UFO phenomena and related issues can be in most cases an excellent way to distract people from what is going on "down here".

Cynics (or modern sophists), in other words, would say that we do not need the celestial threat to disguise Cold War intentions; rather we need the Cold War to disguise celestial intentions! "

Those are great points considering the increasing amount of meteor fireballs and plasma phenomena in the sky... and also the space war stuff, new satellites, and so on...

And funny, if satellites and that kind of gadgets start to fail or blow up due to the electric discharges or other related phenomena, they can blame aliens! A new threat!

I might be mixing stuff, but what if the Covid scam do get exposed big time and they increase the volume of the UFO topic, or even use the "UFOS and aliens" treat narrative to divert attention and outrage from the masses?

Of if the Covid threat dies out and those behind the scam do not accomplish their objectives, they can use that threat as a way to keep pushing for totalitarian control?

Just some loose thoughts.

I've been following the moves of guys like Steven Greer lately to see what they share, they could be used as tools to push the official narrative and they could reveal some clues about true intentions of a possible "disclosure"... if such a thing even happens.

 

Woodsman

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I agree that the latest steps from Media and government departments in the US in regard to the UFO phenomena are rather curious, but I'm still not convinced that "Alien disclosure" is on the agenda or "the goal". And even if that would be the case (which could very well be), it would be likely just a distraction than anything else IMO. It could very well be that the "UFO disclosure" plays into coverup Agenda of comet intrusions. Or maybe the US is just in such a chaotic and confused state now, that the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing?Another possibility is that this UFO disclosure might play into the anti russian propaganda. If anything, I came to the conclusion, as many others here did too I guess, that the UFO phenomena and related issues can be in most cases an excellent way to distract people from what is going on "down here".

Re-reading through this thread, I find myself pondering once again...

Everybody is so caught up with "Official Reality". -With waiting for the authoritative talking heads on TV tell us what is real. People fight with true venom over Wikipedia entries to ensure that their version of public facts are propped up.

Isn't that strange?

I mean, many of us here have a pretty good idea as to what is real. We keep digging and piecing things together. Most anybody in the West is free to put in the effort and tune into reality. And yet, we wait for "Disclosure!" to make it real. For society to let out a collective sigh and give the stamp of approval to what we already know. -Though, it's not as though they'd even get the details right. The only thing anybody in the media seems to be able to pin down with any degree of real accuracy and which the public doesn't contest are sports scores, and just look at how much technology and serious, standardized reporting effort is poured into such relatively simple fact finding as which team won by how much!

But we wait around holding our breathes for the TV idiots in charge of Official Reality to grant approval.

I find that just amazing! -Society simply can't proceed without everybody feeling in their gut that the entire human herd is on the same page, even if the information on that page happens to be wrong.

What a funny thing!
 
As a very generalized view, for decades after WW2, the US was seen by other nations as the top dog in terms of military power, technological development, and an example of how society could flourish by following a political system. While these ideas can be debated, there are at least some good examples like space travel, the internet and middle-class wealth, that concur with the argument. The idea of imminent disclosure however implies the US wouldn't be top dog anymore.

For this reason, I wonder if the theatrics associated with COVID and BLM are a way of desensitizing people to the idea that the US isn't 'top dog' anymore.....e.g. 'how could the most advanced nation on earth be most overwhelmed by a virus?' or 'how can there be so much divisiveness in the land of the free?' I'm not suggesting these are realistic questions or viewpoints, just trying to see the situation from the rest-of-the-world's viewpoint. Whatever faith there previously was in the US from people of other nations, as well as potentially people inside the US, by letting the responses to major events be what they have been so far, it leaves people deflated (possibly designed that way on purpose) --> A prime time to release a bombshell piece of information that relative to all the other world events currently going on is far less shocking and destabilizing?
 

angelburst29

The Living Force
A consultant for the Pentagon U.F.O program is speaking out about retrievals from “off-world vehicles not made on this earth.”

Pentagon Consultant Briefed Senators on Discovery of ‘Off-World Vehicles Not Made on This Earth’

July 24, 2020 - Eric W. Davis, an astrophysicist who worked as a subcontractor and then a consultant for the Pentagon U.F.O. program since 2007 told the New York Times he gave a classified briefing to a Defense Department agency as recently as March about the alleged “off-world” vehicles. He also gave classified briefings on retrievals of unexplained objects to staff members of the Senate Armed Services Committee and the Senate Intelligence Committee last October.

Davis said that in some cases he had failed to determine the source of recovered materials, leading him to conclude, “We couldn’t make it ourselves.”

Though the Pentagon had said it disbanded a program to investigate unidentified flying objects, the Times reported that investigations into encounters between military pilots and unidentified aerial vehicles continue under a renamed program — the Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon Task Force — inside the Office of Naval Intelligence. While the program is not classified, it deals with classified matters.

A Senate committee report last month said the program was to “standardize collection and reporting” on sightings of unexplained aerial vehicles. The program was ordered to report at least some of its findings to the public within 180 days after the passing of the intelligence authorization act.

The Pentagon program’s previous director, Luis Elizondo, a former military intelligence official who resigned in October 2017 after 10 years with the program, said he is convinced that objects of undetermined origin have crashed on earth with materials retrieved for study. Elizondo’s belief is shared by a group of former government officials as well as scientists and security officials, all of whom cannot present physical proof.

However, some previously unexplained incidents do have earthly explanations, and astrophysicists stress that even those lacking explanations are not necessarily caused by extraterrestrial oddities.

While Harry Reid, the former Senate majority leader who has been involved in the effort, told the Times he hopes the program will seek evidence of other worldly vehicles, the program’s main objective is to uncover whether other nations are using breakout aviation technology that may threaten the U.S. In either case, Reid says, “it is extremely important that information about the discovery of physical materials or retrieved craft come out.”

Acting chairman of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence Marco Rubio (R., Fl.) said earlier this month that he is principally concerned about reports of unidentified aircraft over American military bases. He said it is in the government’s interest to find the responsible party, expressing concern that China or Russia could have made “some technological leap” that “allows them to conduct this sort of activity.”

While Rubio said some unidentified aerial vehicles over U.S. bases may have featured technologies not in use in America, he also said, “Maybe there is a completely, sort of, boring explanation for it. But we need to find out.”

Pentagon UFO unit to publicly release some findings after ex-official says ‘off-world vehicle’ found
The US Navy released video earlier this year showing what appeared to be 'UFOs': US Navy

The US Navy released video earlier this year showing what appeared to be 'UFOs': US Navy

July 24, 2020 - A Pentagon UFO unit will make some investigations public as ex-advisors suggest that “vehicles not made on this earth” were placed in US government storage.

The team will update the US Senate’s Intelligence Committee on its unidentified flying object (UFO) research every six months, The New York Times reported on Thursday.

Publicly named in 2019 as the Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon Task Force, the Pentagon unit succeeded an investigative UFO program that was said to have been disbanded prior to 2017.

One former official, Eric Davis, told The Times that he briefed the US Department of Defense in March about the retrieval of “off-world vehicles not made on this earth”.

The Pentagon consultant and subcontractor said objects he believed “we couldn’t make…ourselves” were discovered during his time on the unit, where he has worked since 2007.

Whilst no crash artefacts have ever been documented in public, Harry Reid – the former Democratic Senate majority leader – told The Times that he “came to the conclusion” that UFO materials were in the government’s possession.

“After looking into this, I came to the conclusion that there were reports — some were substantive, some not so substantive — that there were actual materials that the government and the private sector had in their possession,” said the former senator for Nevada.

It is not known what details the Pentagon unit will provide to the Senate, whilst acting intelligence committee chairman Marco Rubio said last week that his priority was to uncover who was behind unidentified flying vehicles seen over American military bases.

“We have things flying over our military bases and places where we are conducting military exercises and we don’t know what it is — and it isn’t ours,” said senator Rubio to CBS Miami.

“Frankly, that if it’s something from outside this planet — that might actually be better than the fact that we’ve seen some technological leap on behalf of the Chinese or the Russians or some other adversary,” added Mr Rubio.

The Senate committee mandated the Pentagon unit to “standardize collection and reporting on unidentified aerial phenomenon” as part of 2021 spending plans on intelligence agencies.

Twitter goes full Fox Mulder after wild New York Times report on Pentagon UFO program
July 24, 2020 - The New York Times published a new report on the Pentagon's Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon Task Force, a program "to investigate unidentified flying objects," which is primarily focused on whether other countries are using aviation technology that could pose a threat to the U.S. but that retired officials also hope "will seek evidence of vehicles from other worlds." Some of its findings are reportedly to be publicly disclosed, per a Senate committee report.

The Times describes how some former officials, including the previous director of the program, are "convinced that objects of undetermined origin have crashed on earth with materials retrieved for study," and former Senator Harry Reid told the paper, "after looking into this, I came to the conclusion that there were reports — some were substantive, some not so substantive — that there were actual materials that the government and the private sector had in their possession."

It gets even weirder, as the Times also quotes astrophysicist Eric Davis, who worked as a consultant for the program, saying that when it comes to some of the materials, "we couldn't make it ourselves." Davis even said that he briefed the Defense Department in March regarding retrievals from "off-world vehicles not made on this earth," one of those phrases that sure makes you do a double take.

Needless to say, Twitter was quick to have a mild freak-out over the article while simultaneously welcoming our new alien overlords.

For those who thought 2020 was done completely melting our brains, well, have a look at the full report at The New York Times.
 

Anthony

The Living Force
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@Joe @Alejo Maybe I overreacted but France, UK and USA opened their ufo archives last years + alien conact ambasador + news in the thread. It might mean that we are prepared for some serious revelations.

Or that we're being prepared for some serious deception by the PTB, as has historically been the case when it comes to 'aliens'. They lie about everything and I wouldn't expect them to suddenly start doing the opposite when it comes to big topics such as UFOs.
 

susy7

Jedi Master
A consultant for the Pentagon U.F.O program is speaking out about retrievals from “off-world vehicles not made on this earth.”

Pentagon Consultant Briefed Senators on Discovery of ‘Off-World Vehicles Not Made on This Earth’

July 24, 2020 - Eric W. Davis, an astrophysicist who worked as a subcontractor and then a consultant for the Pentagon U.F.O. program since 2007 told the New York Times he gave a classified briefing to a Defense Department agency as recently as March about the alleged “off-world” vehicles. He also gave classified briefings on retrievals of unexplained objects to staff members of the Senate Armed Services Committee and the Senate Intelligence Committee last October.

Davis said that in some cases he had failed to determine the source of recovered materials, leading him to conclude, “We couldn’t make it ourselves.”

Though the Pentagon had said it disbanded a program to investigate unidentified flying objects, the Times reported that investigations into encounters between military pilots and unidentified aerial vehicles continue under a renamed program — the Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon Task Force — inside the Office of Naval Intelligence. While the program is not classified, it deals with classified matters.



Pentagon UFO unit to publicly release some findings after ex-official says ‘off-world vehicle’ found
The US Navy released video earlier this year showing what appeared to be 'UFOs': US Navy'UFOs': US Navy

The US Navy released video earlier this year showing what appeared to be 'UFOs': US Navy

July 24, 2020 - A Pentagon UFO unit will make some investigations public as ex-advisors suggest that “vehicles not made on this earth” were placed in US government storage.

The team will update the US Senate’s Intelligence Committee on its unidentified flying object (UFO) research every six months, The New York Times reported on Thursday.

Publicly named in 2019 as the Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon Task Force, the Pentagon unit succeeded an investigative UFO program that was said to have been disbanded prior to 2017.



Twitter goes full Fox Mulder after wild New York Times report on Pentagon UFO program
July 24, 2020 - The New York Times published a new report on the Pentagon's Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon Task Force, a program "to investigate unidentified flying objects," which is primarily focused on whether other countries are using aviation technology that could pose a threat to the U.S. but that retired officials also hope "will seek evidence of vehicles from other worlds." Some of its findings are reportedly to be publicly disclosed, per a Senate committee report.

The Times describes how some former officials, including the previous director of the program, are "convinced that objects of undetermined origin have crashed on earth with materials retrieved for study," and former Senator Harry Reid told the paper, "after looking into this, I came to the conclusion that there were reports — some were substantive, some not so substantive — that there were actual materials that the government and the private sector had in their possession."

It gets even weirder, as the Times also quotes astrophysicist Eric Davis, who worked as a consultant for the program, saying that when it comes to some of the materials, "we couldn't make it ourselves." Davis even said that he briefed the Defense Department in March regarding retrievals from "off-world vehicles not made on this earth," one of those phrases that sure makes you do a double take.

Needless to say, Twitter was quick to have a mild freak-out over the article while simultaneously welcoming our new alien overlords.

For those who thought 2020 was done completely melting our brains, well, have a look at the full report at The New York Times.
Thank you and to complete you, here the Washington article review
 

angelburst29

The Living Force
Lawmakers want to know what data exists, how it's shared, what threats these craft might pose, and if an adversary has new breakthrough tech.

Unprecedented Public Report On UFOs Requested From Senate Intel Committee
June 23, 2020 - Members of the U.S. Senate have expressed concern that the U.S. military, as well as other federal government agencies, have not been giving the appropriate amount of attention to reports of encounters with unidentified aerial phenomena, or UAP, more commonly referred to as unidentified flying objects, or UFOs, which may be linked to America's adversaries. They are now looking to order the Director of National Intelligence to work with other relevant agencies to produce a report detailing just what information they have on UAPs already, how that data is collected and processed, how it is getting shared, and just what kind of threats or other risks these objects might pose.

The call for the UAP review was included in a report accompanying a draft of the Intelligence Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2021 that Senator Marco Rubio, a Florida Republican, submitted on behalf of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence on June 17, 2020. Danny Silva of the SilvaRecord.com was the first to report on the document.

"The Committee supports the efforts of the Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon Task Force at the Office of Naval Intelligence to standardize collection and reporting on unidentified aerial phenomenon, any links they have to adversarial foreign governments, and the threat they pose to U.S. military assets and installations," the committee report says. "However, the Committee remains concerned that there is no unified, comprehensive process within the Federal Government for collecting and analyzing intelligence on unidentified aerial phenomena, despite the potential threat. The Committee understands that the relevant intelligence may be sensitive; nevertheless, the Committee finds that the information sharing and coordination across the Intelligence Community has been inconsistent, and this issue has lacked attention from senior leaders."

So, what Rubio and his colleagues are now asking for is a report on these issues, within 180 days, that the Director of National Intelligence, together with the Secretary of Defense, and any other parties they deem relevant, would produce and that would be primarily unclassified, though it could have additional details in a classified annex.

The review would have to cover the following points:
1. A detailed analysis of unidentified aerial phenomena data and intelligence reporting collected or held by the Office of Naval Intelligence, including data and intelligence reporting held by the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena Task Force;

2. A detailed analysis of unidentified phenomena data collected by:
a. geospatial intelligence;
b. signals intelligence;
c. human intelligence; and
d. measurement and signals intelligence;

3. A detailed analysis of data of the FBI, which was derived from investigations of intrusions of unidentified aerial phenomena data over restricted United States airspace;

4. A detailed description of an interagency process for ensuring timely data collection and centralized analysis of all unidentified aerial phenomena reporting for the Federal Government, regardless of which service or agency acquired the information;

5. Identification of an official accountable for the process described in paragraph 4;

6. Identification of potential aerospace or other threats posed by the unidentified aerial phenomena to national security, and an assessment of whether this unidentified aerial phenomena activity may be attributed to one or more foreign adversaries;

7. Identification of any incidents or patterns that indicate a potential adversary may have achieved breakthrough aerospace capabilities that could put United States strategic or conventional forces at risk; and

8. Recommendations regarding increased collection of data, enhanced research and development, and additional funding and other resources.
(The full section regarding the UAP reporting requirement from the Senate's draft Intelligence Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2021.)

It's important to note that Senate still has to finalize its Intelligence Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2021 and they will have to reconcile it with its companion in the House of Representatives. Both chambers then have to pass it and President Donald Trump has to sign it into law. Even then, the additional guidance in this accompanying report is non-binding. It's also worth noting that this committee report, as well as the existing draft of the latest Intelligence Authorization Act, have classified annexes, which may have additional provisions regarding UAPs, though there is no way to tell for certain.

However, the public request for a report by itself includes a number of significant new details, including, right up front, that the Navy has a dedicated task force focused on this issue. For reasons that remain unexplained, and that The War Zone has delved into in detail in the past, the Navy is the service at the center of all of the major publicized UAP encounters in the past two decades. There have been virtually no significant public comments from the rest of the U.S. military regarding any similar events.

It is known that the Navy has been the service providing classified briefings on UAPs to senior members of Congress ever since the New York Times published its first detailed exposé on the Pentagon's Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP), and its predecessors, which also focused in part on investigating reports of unidentified aerial objects, in 2017. Some legislators have already expressed their concerns about the substance of the information that service has been providing, whether the known UAP encounters represent potential threats to national security, and whether those issues are being taken seriously, as the War Zone, among others, has reported in the past.

The specific mention that the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) has been collecting information about UAP sightings is also notable, if not surprising, as well. The bureau was among the U.S. government agencies that were known to be involved in the investigations into still unexplained sightings of unidentified objects flying over various parts of Colorado and Nebraska, including near sensitive U.S. Air Force facilities, between December 2019 and January 2020, though there's no indication this incident was a direct factor in the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence request. The War Zone has continued to explore that story in detail, which you can read more about here and here.

In addition to information from the Navy and the FBI specifically, the Senate wants to see any other data on UAPs derived from basically any other intelligence sources and methods available to the U.S. government. It specifically mentions geospatial intelligence (GEOINT), signals intelligence (SIGINT), human intelligence (HUMINT), and measurement and signals intelligence (MASINT).

Perhaps the most interesting, and worrisome, part of this provision is the apparent admission that the Senators in charge of overseeing America's intelligence-gathering activities do not already have a good understanding of the interagency process for the centralized collection and analysis of data on UAPs from across the federal government, or who might be the top official in charge of that process, if it exists. It's hard to understand how this could be the case after all this time given the possibility that these encounters could reflect threats to U.S. national security, including directly from America's potential adversaries, something The War Zone has regularly highlighted when discussing these events in the past.

What the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence's wants out of this report only underscores these concerns. The committee's stipulations focus heavily on potential foreign involvement in these events, such as whether these UAP encounters can "be attributed to one or more foreign adversaries" and if they are indicators of "breakthrough aerospace capabilities," rather than outright fears about any sort of potential extraterrestrial activity, but some may still interpret this as ambiguous. Last month, The War Zone was first to report on new information obtained via the Freedom of Information Act regarding encounters between Navy pilots and UAPs along the East Coast of the United States in recent years that specifically described many of the objects as familiar man-made designs or balloon-like objects.

On top of all of this, it is also notable that members of the Senate are seeking an unclassified review of these issues that they could release to the American people. If this comes to pass, this could easily become one of the most significant publicly available official reports on UAP/UFO encounters since the U.S. Air Force's Project Blue Book studies in the 1950s and 1960s.

If still remains to be seen how the Director of National Intelligence will respond to this request, but the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence's inclusion of it in their report is a clear indicator there is a desire among at least some lawmakers to get more information about what the U.S. military, as well as other agencies, known about UAPs and what threats they might present to the United States.

Recent UFO Encounters With Navy Pilots Occurred Constantly Across Multiple Squadrons
June 20, 2019 - One of the biggest questions surrounding the most recent known spate of UFO encounters with U.S. Navy pilots—those that occurred off the southeastern seaboard of the United States between 2014 and early 2015—pertains to how persistent they actually were. We know Super Hornet aircrews from Strike Fighter Squadron 11 (VFA-11), the Red Rippers, detected unknown objects multiple times on radar and one aircrew even had a close encounter visually with one of them, but what about the rest of the many Hornet squadrons based at Naval Air Station Oceana, not to mention the E-2 Hawkeye squadrons from nearby NAS Norfolk? We have the answer to this question and it is remarkable.

A source with knowledge of the events has made it clear to The War Zone that presence of the mysterious objects in the restricted training airspace off America's east coast was so pervasive that it was largely common knowledge among local flying units. They noted that the majority of the Super Hornet squadrons equipped with AN/APG-79 Active Electronically Scanned Array (AESA) radars—you can read all about this technology and how it was key in detecting these objects in our exclusive piece on the subject—at the time were having the same experiences, as well as the crews flying the new E-2D Hawkeye with its incredibly powerful AN/APY-9 radar suite. It literally became such a common and near everyday occurrence that Naval Aviators and Naval Flight Officers from the base would talk about it informally with regularity.


Northrop Grumman - The E-2D Hawkeye is one of the most capable aerial surveillance platforms ever created.

But that doesn't mean formal action wasn't taken. Beyond filing an official safety report after one of the jets almost hit one of the unidentified objects—described eerily as a translucent sphere with a cube structure suspended inside of it—Notices To Airman (NOTAMs) were posted regarding the dangers potentially posed by unknown aerial vehicles flying in the same military operating areas that aircraft from NAS Oceana frequented for training. This action was taken by the base's command leadership as they couldn't figure out how else to address the bizarre issue and its perceived threat to their aircrews' safety.

We have since filed Freedom Of Information Act (FOIA) requests for copies of these NOTAMs, as well as documents regarding how the decision to file the NOTAMs was made at the command level.

Another burning question surrounding these events pertains to whether or not additional visual encounters occurred beyond the one near miss with the Super Hornet and the 'cube inside an orb' object. Our source tells us that there were many more, and yes, they all resulted in the exact same description of the object. So, we are talking about a uniform set of very strange looking objects here that were spotted on radar, by infrared targeting pods, and by the naked eye, frequently over 2014 and the first part of 2015 above the waters off America's southeastern coastline.

As we noted in our last piece on the subject, these encounters dropped off to the point they were described as fleeting and inconclusive at best once VFA-11 and its carrier air wing went on cruise to the Middle East in early Spring of 2015. In addition, we know that the carrier strike group and its aircraft were equipped with key new sensor fusion technologies for that deployment, a fact that is eerily similar to the circumstances surrounding the now famous 'Tic Tac' incident nearly a decade earlier. All of which makes these objects' presence during the time leading up to that deployment that much more curious.

Yet at the same time, the fact that the volume of these recent encounters seems much greater and spread over a much larger period of time versus the infamous incident in 2004 is puzzling. And none of this even addresses the very peculiar physical appearance of these objects, but we have another report on that subject that will be filed in the very near future.

Still, at least we now have a much better sense of how widespread these encounters were and the cultural impact that they had on the Navy's east coast master fighter jet base. This also underscores just how taboo this topic was to military aviators. The fact that these types of events could have been so pervasive, yet kept so hushed-up outside of Navy tactical aircraft aircrew circles, is telling in itself and provides good evidence as to why the Navy had to officially change is procedures for its personnel reporting such strange incidents.

All this comes as Congress is taking a high-interest in the subject as of late, with multiple briefings being given to key lawmakers with the military's top witnesses.

Whatever the case may be, we are definitely entering into uncharted territory when it comes to this long shunned and abused topic. What exactly that will mean when it comes to actually getting to the truth of the matter remains to be understood.
 

Niall

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If you read the recent NYT report - especially the updated version with 'corrected' remarks from Senator Harry Reid - I think you'll find that there isn't really much of a 'disclosure' to it. It's on Sott here, with comments:


I do find it interesting that an ever-wider circle of 'the elite' seem to now be 'in the know', and also that there's semi-official acknowledgment that such briefings are taking place routinely these days, but there is still no real move to shift the general public from "little green men" to "alien reality."
 

Alejo

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I do find it interesting that an ever-wider circle of 'the elite' seem to now be 'in the know', and also that there's semi-official acknowledgment that such briefings are taking place routinely these days, but there is still no real move to shift the general public from "little green men" to "alien reality."

True, I also find interesting, although not that surprising, that they seem to be focusing a lot on the nuts and bolts aspect of it. The story as it’s being presented right now is..”the government knows there are ships from other places that have visited earth.” Which ignores decades worth of data and research that points to much more complex reality. So as far as a full disclosure I am not holding my breath.

What I will say is that it has opened up the discussion to a more comfortable platform, I recently watched Joe Rogan’s interview with George Knapp and while it starts slow, at some point they go off and speculate about intelligent design, humanity being an experiment or even being an agricultural resource, time travel and the like. I’d say years ago this wouldn’t be such a popular interview, but here it is today.
 

Ocean

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Threats also from outer space maybe?



Britain is putting space at the heart of its defence in order to counter threats from China and Russia, according to UK Defence Secretary Ben Wallace.



As part of a foreign, security, and defence policy review being conducted by the UK government, the Ministry of Defense is planning to pivot away from traditional defence and “operate much more in the newest domains of space, cyber, and sub-sea,” Wallace wrote in The Telegraph.


UK defence secretary Ben Wallace

Britain’s Defence Secretary Ben Wallace arrives in Downing Street, London, on June 16, 2020.
(John Sibley/Reuters)

“This week we have been reminded of the threat Russia poses to our national security with the provocative test of a weapon-like projectile from a satellite threatening the peaceful use of space,” he said.

On July 15, Russia tested an anti-satellite weapon in space using the same system that stalked a U.S. reconnaissance satellite earlier this year, U.S. Space Command said on Thursday.

“But Russia is not alone,” said Wallace. “China, too, is developing offensive space weapons and both nations are upgrading their capabilities.”

China’s People’s Liberation Army (PLA) has been developing the power to blind, disorient, and even destroy the United States’ GPS system, U.S. experts told The Epoch Times earlier this month.

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The final Delta II GPS rocket lifts off from Cape Canaveral Air Force Base and launch site SLC-17A in Cape Canaveral, Florida, on Aug. 17, 2009.
(Matt Stroshane/Getty Images)

U.S. Assistant Secretary for International Security and Nonproliferation Christopher Ford said on Friday that “the weaponisation of space is unfortunately well-advanced.”

“Moscow and Beijing have already turned space into a war-fighting domain,” he said. “Both are fielding new anti-satellite weapons in order to hold U.S. and allied space services at risk.”

Last year, the Trump administration officially established the Space Force, which joined the Army, Navy, Air Force, Coast Guard, and Marine Corps as a distinct fighting force.


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President Donald Trump stands as Chief of Space Operations at U.S. Space Force Gen. John Raymond (second from left) and Chief Master Sgt. Roger Towberman (second from right) hold the United States Space Force flag in the Oval Office of the White House in Washington on May 15, 2020. (Alex Brandon/AP Photo)

“As traditional conflict shifts, and cyber and data become the battleground, we must outmaneuver our adversaries with a sharper technological edge and relentless focus on innovation,” said the British defence secretary.

Wallace’s latest remarks appear to signal greater policy alignment between the two trans-Atlantic allies.

Britain’s relations with both Russia and China have been strained in recent weeks.

The UK government has targeted Russians with new sanctions and accused Russian actors of trying to meddle in last year’s election.

Britain has reacted strongly to the Chinese regime’s imposition of a draconian national security law on Hong Kong, offering 3 million Hong Kong residents a path to British citizenship and suspending its extradition treaty with the former crown colony.

Earlier this month, Prime Minister Boris Johnson reversed his earlier decision to allow limited involvement by Chinese telecom firm Huawei in Britain’s 5G network, and ordered Huawei kit to be purged completely by 2027.

Britain has also voiced concerns over alleged cyber attacks by Russia and China against medical institutions conducting research on vaccines for the CCP (Chinese Communist Party) virus, also known as the novel coronavirus.

Simon Veazey and Reuters contributed to this report.
 

Leelee

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True, I also find interesting, although not that surprising, that they seem to be focusing a lot on the nuts and bolts aspect of it. The story as it’s being presented right now is..”the government knows there are ships from other places that have visited earth.” Which ignores decades worth of data and research that points to much more complex reality. So as far as a full disclosure I am not holding my breath

They could be setting the stage for another scare tactic, maybe along the lines of a (tempered) Orson Wells-ish redux to keep people anchored in this feeling of unreality and fear, more reason cower at home. They'd have to get pretty creative though. People have been getting amazing footage for years now, especially since cells with cameras. I don't think merely admitting, "yup, we can confirm those ships are off world visitations", is going to shake many people up at this point. At any rate, disclosure surely won't have anything to do with the complex reality we've come to understand here.
 
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