Imminent Alien Disclosure?

[Ryan]

Here's a bit with some specifics that Weaponized redacted at first, but then decided to publish:

Great interview, @Approaching Infinity; thanks for posting it. Borland's message comes through loud and clear and his body language gives weight to his statements. His hypothesized approach is an interesting one: could giving priority to the coverup/criminal and technological aspects of the UAP/NHI phenomenon be the best way to 'break it to humanity gently'?

We probably favour a more radical approach here, as we know just how intertwined the phenomenon is with the spiritual and religious aspects of human life, but I think if Borland's approach gains traction in policy circles, that would have benefits in this area as well, as there would be many people who would want to "know more" as soon as the conversation expanded.

It's likely that 4D STS have contingencies for this possibility, as Pasulka's work seems to indicate, but those might not play out exactly 'as planned' either. Peter Thiel's recent tirade against Greta Thunberg and other 'technology skeptics' - to a Christian audience, nonetheless - is an interesting data point regarding this. Why would a 22-year-old environmental activist pose an "Antichrist"-level threat to the Consortium's tech agenda? Could it be that any "brake" on Western tech development might tip the balance in favour of Russia and China? Are the Consortium starting to lose faith in their Special Access Programs?

The complexities of how to handle the full transition of Earth's civilization into Fourth Density are likely Quorum-level pay grade. Depopulation seems to be the 3D elites' solution, but the deindustrialisation necessary for that to occur looks like a fairly remote possibility at this point (except perhaps in the West), given the BRICS' ascension. Of course, Earth Changes might accomplish the same thing, but the forces that modulate such changes could be above even the Quorum's level.

Perhaps we should take Greta's thoughts on environmentalism a little more seriously?

 

[unkl brws]

A new date announcement with trailer for the documentary "The Age of Disclosure" just came out.

The truth is coming November 21. Worldwide on Prime Video and in select U.S. theaters.

The Age of Disclosure is an explosive documentary that reveals an 80-year global cover-up of non-human intelligent life and a secret war among major nations to reverse engineer advanced technology of non-human origin. Featuring testimony from 34 U.S. Government, military, and intelligence community insiders, the film exposes the profound stakes for the future of humanity.

 

[hiker]

I didn’t know much about the Phoenix Lights UFO event beforehand until catching a video of it in my YouTube feed. It’s not really connected to the current disclosure discussion, but is in a way special for having been witnessed by thousands of people on March 13th 1997.

Apparently, there were plenty of people stargazing that evening, as the skies were clear and the Hale-Bopp comet was brightest at that time.

The incident consisted of two phases: first, a large V-shaped, boomerang like formation of five lights moved silently across the sky between 7 and 8.30 pm, and at around 10 pm, a set of stationary lights hovered in place before disappearing.

One eyewitness described the boomerang craft to be ”a mile wide” as it flew 30 feet above him. There is also a pretty clear video of the stationary lights on YT: at the start, a lone spot of light can be seen on the left, but then further to the right, seven evenly separated lights appear in a slightly bending line.

As he was landing, a certain civil pilot reported the lights to the airport; it was quite a surprise to see that it was none other than Kurt Russell, the actor!

Interestingly, he said in the below interview that he ”forgot” about the incident completely until seeing a program about it on TV two years later, and hearing the phrase that ”a general aviation pilot had reported the lights on landing”. That brought it back, and he seemed to be quite mystified why the memory loss had happened so easily. (I guess it’s not that rare for UFO eyewitnesses to have episodes of ”missing time”. Speculating further, since he was airborne and at "eye level" with the craft(s), this may have made him (and his son, who was also in the plane) more susceptible to it, perhaps.)

(Btw, Kurt seems to be an authentic guy, on top of being a great actor.)

I asked Grok about the incident: the opinions of professional UFO researchers; eyewitnesses’ experiences; the official explanation, such as flares being shot from fighter planes (yeah right ); and its overlap with the Hale-Bopp comet.

The Phoenix Lights event on March 13, 1997, remains one of the most widely reported and debated UFO sightings in modern history, involving thousands of witnesses across Arizona and parts of Nevada and Mexico. It consisted of two main phases: an earlier sighting around 7-8:30 p.m. of a large V-shaped or boomerang formation of lights moving silently across the sky, and a later set of stationary lights around 10 p.m. that hovered before disappearing. While official explanations attribute it to military flares and possibly aircraft, many eyewitnesses and researchers maintain it was something unexplained, potentially extraterrestrial or advanced technology. I'll break this down based on eyewitness testimonies and researcher perspectives, while addressing the Hale-Bopp comet context.

Eyewitness Accounts

Eyewitnesses consistently described the earlier lights as part of a massive, solid object—often estimated at a mile wide or the size of several football fields—that blocked out stars as it passed overhead, moving slowly and silently without any engine noise or turbulence. The skies were indeed clear that night, which contributed to the high visibility and number of reports.

Actor Kurt Russell, who was piloting a small plane into Phoenix with his son, reported seeing six lights in a V-formation that he initially thought were part of an aircraft. He radioed it in to air traffic control, only later realizing it matched the mass sighting. He described it as "otherworldly" and not resembling any known plane.

Dr. Lynne Kitei, a Phoenix physician, was one of the first to document the event extensively. She saw a row of amber orbs that appeared to be attached to a single craft, hovering and then moving deliberately. She emphasized that the object was "enormous" and "not flares," as it didn't descend or flicker like illumination flares would.

Then-Arizona Governor Fife Symington initially mocked the reports in a press conference (even staging a joke with an aide in an alien costume) but later admitted he witnessed it himself. He described a "delta-shaped" craft that was "dramatically large" and unlike any man-made object, expressing regret for downplaying it and calling for a serious investigation.

Other residents, like Tim Ley, reported a "very large object with red and green lights" that obscured the sky as it passed overhead at low altitude, prompting him to rush inside to alert his family. A high school student named Nathan described hugging a friend in terror as an "enormous" shape flew by. A nearby pilot tried to radio the object but got no response, noting its slow, low flight path.

Families like the Smiths, who were camping, watched the lights for over an hour, noting they moved in formation and hovered—behaviors inconsistent with falling flares. Karen Hudes pulled over while driving with her kids to watch "huge orbs of light" that felt "surreal."

Many witnesses disputed the official flares explanation, pointing out that the lights didn't drift or extinguish like flares (which are dropped from planes and descend on parachutes). Instead, they appeared connected to a single structure and vanished uniformly behind distant mountains, as if the object was flying away. Estimates suggest 10,000+ people saw it, including police, military personnel, and pilots, adding credibility beyond casual observers.

Views from UFO Researchers

Authentic UFO researchers—those affiliated with groups like MUFON (Mutual UFO Network) or independent investigators—generally view the Phoenix Lights as a genuine unexplained aerial phenomenon (UAP), often citing the volume of consistent eyewitness reports, video footage, and lack of a convincing conventional explanation. They distinguish between the two events: the V-formation (unexplained) and the later lights (possibly flares).

Proponents like Dr. Lynne Kitei (author of "The Phoenix Lights: A Skeptic's Discovery") and James Fox (documentary filmmaker) argue it's evidence of advanced technology, potentially non-human. Kitei, initially skeptical, collected hundreds of accounts and photos, concluding the craft was "intelligently controlled" and not military flares, as the Air Force's timeline didn't match witness reports. Fox's film "I Know What I Saw" features Symington and others reinforcing this.

MUFON and similar organizations classify it as a "mass sighting" with high strangeness, noting similarities to other global triangle UFO reports. Researchers like Richard Dolan emphasize government dismissal as part of a broader cover-up pattern, pointing to Councilwoman Frances Barwood's claims of phone tapping and suppressed footage after she pushed for an inquiry.

Skeptical researchers, such as those from the Committee for Skeptical Inquiry, accept the flares explanation for the 10 p.m. lights (dropped by A-10 Warthogs from Maryland Air National Guard during Operation Snowbird at the Barry Goldwater Range). They argue the V-formation was likely Cessna planes in formation or an optical illusion, though this doesn't fully address the size and silence reported. One analysis superimposed nighttime video over daytime mountain footage to show lights "disappearing" behind terrain, consistent with distant flares 50-70 miles away.

Overall, UFO researchers on the proponent side see it as substantiated evidence of something extraordinary, while skeptics view it as a mix of misidentification and hype. The event inspired ongoing investigations, annual gatherings, and calls for disclosure.

Hale-Bopp Comet Overlap

You're correct that the clear skies and Hale-Bopp comet viewing played a key role—many people were outside stargazing specifically for the comet, which was at its brightest around that time (perihelion on April 1, 1997). This explains the unusually high number of witnesses; reports note folks were on rooftops, in backyards, or pulled over on roads to observe the comet when the lights appeared. The timing added to the event's visibility but also fueled speculation, as some linked it to the Heaven's Gate cult's mass suicide later that month (March 22-26), where members believed a UFO trailed the comet. However, no direct evidence connects the lights to the cult or comet beyond coincidence.

 

[KJS]

Dark Journalist aired a good episode a few days ago. Just had an occasion to hear it. What's in it?

1. The main thesis: The CIA's "Age of Disclosure" documentary is propaganda, not real disclosure
2. Key players: The intelligence operatives and Hollywood connections behind it
3. Recent events: The New Jersey drone mystery as a government test
4. Media corruption: How independent media has been bought out
5. The dark side: People who get too close to the truth end up dead
6. What's really happening: Advanced technology exists, it's about consciousness too, and the same group controls both UFO secrets and finance
7. The bottom line: This is about control and manufacturing threats, not revealing truth

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This episode of Dark Journalist represents a deep investigative exposé into the intelligence community's manipulation of UFO disclosure narratives, particularly through the upcoming documentary "Age of Disclosure" set for release on November 21st. Daniel Liszt (Dark Journalist) and co-host Olivia present a thorough deconstruction of what they identify as a CIA-orchestrated propaganda operation designed to promote a false UFO threat narrative.

Core Thesis: The X-Protect Group

The central focus revolves around "X-Protect," which Liszt identifies as a shadowy group embedded within government agencies responsible for both maintaining UFO secrecy and controlling the narrative when information does emerge. This group operates at the intersection of intelligence agencies and aerospace companies, wielding enormous influence over how UFO-related information reaches the public.

The Age of Disclosure Documentary Exposé

Key Players and Connections

The documentary's production reveals a web of intelligence connections:

Dan Farah: The director and central figure who serves as:

• Producer for Steven Spielberg (worked on Ready Player One in 2018)
• Literary agent for multiple UFO "whistleblowers" including Lou Elizondo, Jay Stratton, and David Grusch
• Buyer of rights to Tom DeLonge's "Secret Machines" novels for HBO adaptation
• First-time director of Age of Disclosure despite extensive Hollywood connections

Lou Elizondo: The documentary's narrator, identified as:

• A discredited counter-intelligence agent
• Former chief interrogator in Iraq and Afghanistan
• Someone who falsely claimed to have quit government service while actually working for five different agencies
• Central figure in the To The Stars Academy (TTSA) operation

Intelligence Community Participants:

• Jim Semivan: 25-year CIA veteran, CEO/COO of TTSA
• Gary Nolan: CIA-affiliated scientist conducting brain scan research, close friend of Anthony Fauci
• Hal Puthoff: CIA scientist involved in UFO projects since the late 1960s
• James Clapper: Former Director of National Intelligence
• Admiral Tim Gallaudet: Portrayed as naive but well-intentioned

The Hollywood-Intelligence Nexus

Spielberg's involvement extends beyond mere production, with active filming of a new UFO movie in New Jersey during the mysterious drone incidents of late 2024. The timing and location suggest coordination between entertainment production and real-world UFO/drone events.

The New Jersey Drone Mystery

The Events

From November to December 2024, massive drone swarms appeared over New Jersey and New York, causing significant public concern. The government initially provided no explanation, with both Biden and Trump administrations remaining largely silent.

The Cover Story Unravels

A private aerospace company allegedly claimed responsibility at an Army summit in Alabama, stating "That was us" regarding the New Jersey incidents. However, when journalists investigated, the unnamed company (reportedly based in Palo Alto) denied any involvement, leaving the mystery unresolved.

Liszt's Analysis

The drone events served as:

• A Continuity of Government (COG) exercise run by General Guillot (head of NORAD/NORTHCOM)
• A data-mining operation to gauge public reaction to aerial anomalies
• Preparation for a potential false flag "UFO threat" scenario
• Part of the larger "Homeland Synchronizer" experiment

The Podcast Industrial Complex

Liszt provides sharp criticism of the transformation of independent media into a compromised space:

The Money Pipeline

• Companies like Dayar Media pumping millions into podcasters
• Shawn Ryan's evolution from veteran interviews to UFO content for $10 million deals
• PBD (Patrick Bet-David) charging $48,000 for 30-minute consultations
• Tim Cast claiming $800 million valuation

The Corruption of Independent Media

The infiltration involves:

• Venture capital firms dictating content requirements
• Mandatory inclusion of UFO topics regardless of host expertise
• Superficial treatment of deep subjects
• Recycling of debunked narratives from the 1990s

The Musk-NASA Power Struggle

The Space Race Politics

A significant subplot involves the conflict between:

• Elon Musk/SpaceX seeking control of lunar missions
• NASA administrator Sean Duffy exploring alternatives to SpaceX
• Trump's rejection of Musk's pick (Jared Isaacman) for NASA leadership
• Musk's threats and social media attacks calling Duffy "Sean Dummy"

The Hidden Timeline

Evidence suggests:

• Mars missions were planned for 1966 and 1981 according to Gordon Cooper
• Current "return to the moon" narratives ignore potential secret missions
• The Artemis program pushed from 2024 to 2027 indicates deeper issues

Victims of X-Protect: The Dark Side of Secrecy

Mark McCandlish (died 2021)

• Aviation artist who accidentally witnessed classified "flux liner" craft
• Created detailed drawings of reverse-engineered vehicles
• Contacted Senator Marco Rubio offering testimony
• Found dead from suspicious shotgun blast immediately after

Amy Eskridge (died young)

• Founded Institute for Exotic Science in Huntsville, Alabama
• Father was NASA scientist
• Claimed Elizondo and Puthoff were "evil" after they approached her
• Also died from shotgun blast at age 34

Historical Victims

• Morris Jessup (1950s): Came close to anti-gravity secrets, suspicious death
• James McDonald: UFO researcher who made breakthroughs, ruled suicide
• President John F. Kennedy: Killed while pursuing UFO truth and space program control
• Robert Kennedy: Assassinated by Thane Eugene Cesar, a Skunk Works employee
• Marilyn Monroe: Eliminated after threatening to reveal JFK's discussions about UFO bases

The Spiritual Dimension

Beyond Materialism

Liszt emphasizes that the UFO phenomenon cannot be understood purely through materialist science:

• References Rudolf Steiner's anthroposophy and spiritual evolution
• Discusses the "eighth sphere" concept of spiritual entrapment
• Warns against the "aliens as demons" narrative pushed by some Christian conservatives
• Advocates for understanding UFOs as involving realm-shifting and consciousness

The Atlantean Connection

The current technological emergence represents:

• A recurrence of ancient Atlantean technology
• Part of humanity's spiritual evolution toward "New Jupiter"
• A test of whether humanity can integrate technology with spiritual development

Congressional Failures

The Luna Task Force

Representative Anna Paulina Luna's UFO task force criticized for:

• Wasting six months with no substantial progress
• Using hearings as vehicle for Luna's podcast ambitions
• Relying on compromised sources like Jefferson Morley
• Failing to connect JFK assassination with UFO secrecy
• Promoting already-debunked Russian documents from 1999

Key Revelations and Documents

The Marilyn Monroe Wiretap

A declassified intelligence document reveals:

• Monroe threatening to reveal JFK's visits to "secret air bases" with alien materials
• Dorothy Kilgallen's knowledge of Roswell and UK crash retrievals
• Monroe's "diary of secrets" containing UFO information
• Her elimination shortly after these threats

Astronaut Mental Manipulation

Buzz Aldrin's documented mental breakdown suggests:

• Memory manipulation or erasure
• Inability to answer direct questions about lunar experience
• "Uncontrollable shaking" when pressed about moon landing
• Parallels with alien abduction memory suppression

The Ring Makers of Saturn

Norman Bergrun's suppressed research showing:

• Massive ships refueling in Saturn's rings
• Reagan's panic and attempts at US-Soviet cooperation
• Colin Powell's admission of censoring Reagan's alien warnings

The Path Forward

Liszt's Recommendations

1. Reject Intelligence Community Disclosure: No CIA/counter-intelligence involvement
2. Support Civilian Research: Independent, multi-disciplinary approaches
3. Recognize Patterns: Understand X-Protect's historical footprint
4. Maintain Vigilance: Watch for emergency power grabs using UFO threats
5. Demand Accountability: Push for genuine transparency, not controlled narratives

The Information War

The battle involves:

• Distinguishing genuine UFO research from intelligence operations
• Resisting the commodification of disclosure
• Understanding aerospace companies' central role in deep state operations
• Recognizing UFO secrecy's connection to financial system control

Conclusion: The Stakes

This episode presents the UFO disclosure movement as standing at a critical juncture. The intelligence community's "Age of Disclosure" represents not genuine transparency but a sophisticated propaganda operation designed to:

• Manufacture consent for emergency powers
• Create profitable fear narratives
• Maintain control over exotic technology
• Prevent genuine civilian understanding of the phenomenon

Liszt positions Dark Journalist as perhaps the last independent voice capable of exposing these operations, warning that the window for genuine disclosure is rapidly closing as intelligence agencies consolidate control over both mainstream and alternative media narratives.

The ultimate message: The UFO truth involves not just exotic technology but fundamental questions about human consciousness, spiritual evolution, and the power structures that have controlled this information for decades. The public must reject the packaged, commercialized version of disclosure being offered and demand genuine transparency free from intelligence community manipulation.

Notable Quotes

• "You're not going to get the truth from counter-intelligence people. They're the best trained liars on the planet."
• "The same group controlling the UFO cabal are the same people controlling the financial cabal."
• "There's a real UFO file and then there's the CIA BS circus version of it. 90% to 95% of what you see is that circus."
• "Hollywood and the CIA get together and promote a UFO threat agenda... That's narrative control, not disclosure."

 

[Ennio]

Dark Journalist aired a good episode a few days ago. Just had an occasion to hear it. What's in it?

Liszt raises some good questions in this video. One other thing that stuck out to me was Liszt's claim that he could not interview David Grusch because, according to what Grusch told Liszt, Christopher Melon wouldn't permit or allow him to be on the show!

If taken at face value, there is something very wrong with that. Liszt is a very good and legit researcher it seems to me. If Melon is being controlling and manipulative towards Grusch, about who he speaks to publicly, it could suggest much about Melon's wanting to steer the narrative a certain way. Or perhaps not wanting Liszt's work to get any more attention than he is already receiving - which he surely would with such a high profile guest as Grusch. Either way, it doesn't bode well for Melon's part in all this.

Christopher Melon by the way "is an American former Department of Defense and United States Senate civilian staff member whose career from 1985 to 2017 focused on defense and intelligence oversight. He is an advocate for transparency in government investigations of UFOs." Melon is featured in the new film Age of Disclosure, too.

Reminds me of the idea that the US Gov is working at cross-purposes in regards to the whole subject. One one hand you have the Pentagon peeps trying to minimize awareness of the presence altogether, and from another quarter, quite possibly represented by the Melon faction, "disclosure" is being doled out in service of a particular narrative. It will be interesting to see how this whole thing plays out.

 

[lilies]

Sub-Rosa: Organized Secrecy​

An exhaustive primer on how the modern "Legacy Program" actually functions, and the implications thereof.

Written by Rob Jones, a former naval nuclear propulsion engineer, UAP researcher.

UAP Gerb did an interview with him recently:

AI/computer scientist Lex Fridman, PhD did an interview with Tic-Tac witness F-18 fighter jet pilot David Fravor. Its a compelling, irresistible video-interview, the equivalent of a page-turner book:

First spotter.