I recently read Bob Teets books [West Virginia UFOs] and am finishing up his second [UFOs and Mental Health -1997]. These are both very good objective looks at the abduction phenomena in good journalistic style by a former journalist. They are also referenced by Laura in a number of places. In UFOs and Mental Health, Teets addresses RV'ers and some comments on Ingo - thus the divergence from the story line described here. I'm going to type in this section of his book here. Just prior to this section, Teets presents a short review of the book Remote Viewers: The Secret History of America's Psychic Spies by Jim Schnabel. He gives it some praise as a "must read", and suggests that Schnabel must have been given much inside government info during his research for the book. Schnabel presents some embarrasing details associated with many of the top RV'ers, in conflict with their professed images. The section in question is:
[Begin Teets Quote] UFOs and the Dark Place
There is also mention of UFOs in Schnabel's book.
Ed Dames and other RV'ers often encountered UFOs and their occupants, according to Schnabel. Dames seemed to prefer such sessions, writes Schnabel, and even garnered other RV'ers together to peek at ETs, the Loch Ness Monster, various Virgin Mary sites, and the lost continent of Atlantis, though Ingo Swann is reported to have eschewed most such endeavors to remote view UFOs because he feared the UFO occupants may turn the tables on him and not only remote view him, but possess his soul in the bargain.
If Schnabel's reportage is accurate on this last count, Swann's concerns carry implications for the existence of entities capable of "possessing" human beings, a belief persistent in nearly all civilizations and most major religions since the beginning of rcorded history.
(Schnabel, after interviewing most of the major players in the RV program, reports that the RV program lost momentum in its later years and began a decline into "paranormal Chaos, a dark place, infested by madness and mischievious sprites ...")
It is not clear, but one is led to believe after reviewing these various books, that no one involved in the remote viewing programs paid much attention to such a possibility, whether the "possessing" entity was of a type we call extraterrestrial or an old-fashioned demon mentioned in various religious traditions. Assuming for the moment that such was a possibility, then we are presented a scenario whereby non-human intelligences invaded an initially promising human program and slowly turned it and many of its ill-equipped Jedi Knights toward the "Dark Side". [End Teets Quote]
[Begin Teets Quote] UFOs and the Dark Place
There is also mention of UFOs in Schnabel's book.
Ed Dames and other RV'ers often encountered UFOs and their occupants, according to Schnabel. Dames seemed to prefer such sessions, writes Schnabel, and even garnered other RV'ers together to peek at ETs, the Loch Ness Monster, various Virgin Mary sites, and the lost continent of Atlantis, though Ingo Swann is reported to have eschewed most such endeavors to remote view UFOs because he feared the UFO occupants may turn the tables on him and not only remote view him, but possess his soul in the bargain.
If Schnabel's reportage is accurate on this last count, Swann's concerns carry implications for the existence of entities capable of "possessing" human beings, a belief persistent in nearly all civilizations and most major religions since the beginning of rcorded history.
(Schnabel, after interviewing most of the major players in the RV program, reports that the RV program lost momentum in its later years and began a decline into "paranormal Chaos, a dark place, infested by madness and mischievious sprites ...")
It is not clear, but one is led to believe after reviewing these various books, that no one involved in the remote viewing programs paid much attention to such a possibility, whether the "possessing" entity was of a type we call extraterrestrial or an old-fashioned demon mentioned in various religious traditions. Assuming for the moment that such was a possibility, then we are presented a scenario whereby non-human intelligences invaded an initially promising human program and slowly turned it and many of its ill-equipped Jedi Knights toward the "Dark Side". [End Teets Quote]
