Is the Dalai Lama a Pedophile?
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Well, I wouldn’t be surprised! Apart from uttering inanities (DL), many of the ‘elites’ seem to be involved with this kind of thing - which is weird in and of itself!
My first impression was "Michael Jackson syndrome" - someone who's become socially maladjusted after living a life in the public eye for so long. Plus Buddhism generally has weird ideas about sex, like most monotheistic religions. Interesting also that the video was taken last year, but only just emerged publicly now? Is this being done for some political reason given the west's previous 'buddy-buddy' relationship with the DL, and China's ongoing rise in power? Note this:
Dalai Lama’s Russia representative resigns after ‘foreign agent’ accusation
Telo Tulku Rinpoche, Supreme Lama in Kalmykia, finds his position untenable after speaking out over Ukraine invasion
www.telegraph.co.uk
Has the DL served his purpose as far as the west is concerned?
My first impression was "Michael Jackson syndrome" - someone who's become socially maladjusted after living a life in the public eye for so long. Plus Buddhism generally has weird ideas about sex, like most monotheistic religions. Interesting also that the video was taken last year, but only just emerged publicly now? Is this being done for some political reason given the west's previous 'buddy-buddy' relationship with the DL, and China's ongoing rise in power? Note this:
Dalai Lama’s Russia representative resigns after ‘foreign agent’ accusation
Telo Tulku Rinpoche, Supreme Lama in Kalmykia, finds his position untenable after speaking out over Ukraine invasion
Has the DL served his purpose as far as the west is concerned?
FWIW, I had exactly the same impression re Michael Jackson.
That's what it looks like to me. He is having a playful giggle at the end like he has no idea how inappropriate it is/looks to the crowd and TV cameras.
Happy Poo
Jedi Master
Yea seems like it's just weird, inappropriate behaviour, watched it and thought how bizarre! If someone truly was a pedo, it may be more likely that they would do everything to act as normal as possible around kids, especially in a public arena, and that they may probably avoid doing something so overt like this so as to not draw attention to themselves..
The smart ones, sure, however we've all seen those videos of Biden groping and sniffing kids in public.
So I don't think we can rely on that reason alone.
Happy Poo
Jedi Master
Biden. Yuk.. Barf indeedThe smart ones, sure, however we've all seen those videos of Biden groping and sniffing kids in public.
So I don't think we can rely on that reason alone.
. Haven't seen those videos, thanks for pointing that out, never knew he did stuff like that in public. Would hope to think the Dalai Lama isn't a pedo but yea definitely I get what you mean.
The smart ones, sure, however we've all seen those videos of Biden groping and sniffing kids in public.
So I don't think we can rely on that reason alone.
Yeah, although I don't think it has as much to do with smarts as it does with age. Both are likely seeing the cognitive decline that comes with age, especially among people who have not trained their brain during their younger years. That cognitive decline classically manifests in socially inappropriate behavior.
It could be, or not. It is not very intelligent to kiss with a tongue to a young kid, specially… with covid in the air! 
I think the Dalai Lama is very old, maybe senile a little bit to do things like that. With time, we will have more information anyway. Like for the Mother Teresa, we will, maybe, be surprised how these people who feel the power in their blood, are sick and mad.
I think the Dalai Lama is very old, maybe senile a little bit to do things like that. With time, we will have more information anyway. Like for the Mother Teresa, we will, maybe, be surprised how these people who feel the power in their blood, are sick and mad.I don't know for sure, but I did read that in Tibet, sticking one's tongue out is used as a greeting or sign of respect in meeting. There was a scene in the movie, "Seven Years in Tibet" where this was depicted and everyone had their tongues sticking out. It didn't come off as such in the video of the Dali Lama and the child, however, and made me very uncomfortable. I do agree with others that maybe at age 87 he is losing some of his filters now as some elders do? Also, it would be wise not to hold everything to Western values, and yet, one must also see clearly and not justify sinister behavior.
I have seen the Dali Lama in person several times and usually have a pretty good read on the energy of people. He presents with some pretty innocent energy, in my opinion, so I will be very disappointed if this proves out to be that he is actually a negative force in disguise. If he is a pedophile, then I will have to admit that I am truly clueless on how to accurately spot an STS conduit. Anything seems to be possible these days so I will wait and see.
I have seen the Dali Lama in person several times and usually have a pretty good read on the energy of people. He presents with some pretty innocent energy, in my opinion, so I will be very disappointed if this proves out to be that he is actually a negative force in disguise. If he is a pedophile, then I will have to admit that I am truly clueless on how to accurately spot an STS conduit. Anything seems to be possible these days so I will wait and see.
Lyndi
Jedi Master
A bit of senility, mild, but to my sense he was showing the boy a traditional Tibetan greeting of respect. Sticking your tongue out like that was something Tibetans used to do fairly long ago as JeanneT wrote above. Kissing children seems kind of a Tibetan tradition too, in an innocent way. Especially 'naughty little boys'. There was a special place for 'naughty' boys. Naughty = rambunctious, bold.
I have heard of one revered Tibetan doctor, 'Emchi' is the title, who was clearly a notorious pedophile from reports from friends who passed through refugee camps on arriving in India; also rumours of monks. So the DL maybe himself is not a paragon compared to some less public and less political lamas I've come across but I don't get the feeling he is a pedophile, at least from this clip. DL could be very harsh and one of his main advisors spoke in Toronto a few decades ago and I did NOT like him. He was said to be the DL's right hand, and kind of ruthless.
I used to do a lot of research on Tibet in the 1990's and was a member of the Canada Tibet Committee at that time. (My name here is my husband's nickname for me, I am not a lama...! This may come as a surprise, I know, lol! )
I have heard of one revered Tibetan doctor, 'Emchi' is the title, who was clearly a notorious pedophile from reports from friends who passed through refugee camps on arriving in India; also rumours of monks. So the DL maybe himself is not a paragon compared to some less public and less political lamas I've come across but I don't get the feeling he is a pedophile, at least from this clip. DL could be very harsh and one of his main advisors spoke in Toronto a few decades ago and I did NOT like him. He was said to be the DL's right hand, and kind of ruthless.
I used to do a lot of research on Tibet in the 1990's and was a member of the Canada Tibet Committee at that time. (My name here is my husband's nickname for me, I am not a lama...! This may come as a surprise, I know, lol! )
Debra
The Living Force
I follow a guy named Jeff Brown, he’s authored several books on healing traumas, as well as several poetry volumes.
This was written by him, for what it’s worth, my opinion and observations are very much in line with his.
“As we engage in the back-and forth-dialogue about the Dalai Lama’s ‘tongue-sucking’ incident with a young boy, I marvel at how little focus there is on the boy’s experience.
It is not for me to say that he experienced this as a ‘trauma’, but it would not surprise me if he did. After all, the Dalai Lama is held in high regard, seen by many as a kind of Godlike figure, a symbol of purity and benevolence the world over. And then he reveals himself to this little boy as just another flawed human being. And, perhaps something worse.
People are spending a lot of time defending this man, almost as though he is their friend, or their projected Good Daddy, or the one that gave them faith in the patriarchy again.
They are saying that he suffers from dementia, and that this event is a reflection of his illness.
Or that he simply made a mistake, one that we can forgive him for.
Perhaps we can, but I believe that there are far more important things to glean from this experience.
First, we have all been suckered by the patriarchy.
We have been sold one ridiculous story after another about male supremacy, Godlike man (and man-like God), ascended master, enlightened lineage, superior blood lines (lol), elitist entitlement, divine channeler, the second-coming, the Wizard himself.
And none of it is true.
These are all self-serving constructs, motivated by financial, egoic, and power-seeking factors. I don’t care what book they read from, or what ‘special’ garb they wear, or what bell they clang, or what title they use, or what hypnotic story they tell—they are just people.
And, in my experience, the 'superior ones' are usually far less substantial, intelligent, heartfelt, or evolved, than the so-called ‘common man.’
They are usually grifters and lost-boys, masquerading their issues and (true) intentions behind a perfectly coiffured messianic mirage. And the sooner we dismantle these systems, and replace them with something rooted in meritocracy, the sooner we will liberate our species from its patriarchal trappings.
Second, it is time for all of us to focus our gaze on the healing of the victim, and not on the forgiving of the wrongdoer.
Our tendency to gaslight suffering, and to bash victimization, is fundamental to our patriarchal conditioning, and it is locking humanity inside of its pain.
With no acknowledgment of the traumas we have endured, with little support for the healing we need, we are ripe for the picking by unconscionable leaders and systems. It is no accident that many religious and spiritual teachings devalue judgment, gossip and anger, and persistently preach the value of forgiveness.
It’s a perfect set up for the perpetuation of abuse by those who run the show.
They can’t be called out, and if they are, they must be forgiven.
Little wonder so many of us spiral in and out of dissociative states, and continue to hide our true-selves below a bushel of shame in this world. It is simply too uncomfortable to be here, living as we are under the thumb of the delusional man.
I invite all of us to spend some time this week reflecting on the little boy who was asked to suck the tongue of a beloved guru. Let’s use this as an opportunity to connect with our hearts.
What might that have felt like for him?
Where might it have landed inside?
How might it have impacted his experience of safety in this world?
What healing modalities might be of value to him now, and later in life?
And how can we construct a world that shields him, and all of us, from the fallacious notion that there are human beings among us that were born superior? How can we co-create a true equality that begins and ends at the heart of our shared humanness?”
This was written by him, for what it’s worth, my opinion and observations are very much in line with his.
“As we engage in the back-and forth-dialogue about the Dalai Lama’s ‘tongue-sucking’ incident with a young boy, I marvel at how little focus there is on the boy’s experience.
It is not for me to say that he experienced this as a ‘trauma’, but it would not surprise me if he did. After all, the Dalai Lama is held in high regard, seen by many as a kind of Godlike figure, a symbol of purity and benevolence the world over. And then he reveals himself to this little boy as just another flawed human being. And, perhaps something worse.
People are spending a lot of time defending this man, almost as though he is their friend, or their projected Good Daddy, or the one that gave them faith in the patriarchy again.
They are saying that he suffers from dementia, and that this event is a reflection of his illness.
Or that he simply made a mistake, one that we can forgive him for.
Perhaps we can, but I believe that there are far more important things to glean from this experience.
First, we have all been suckered by the patriarchy.
We have been sold one ridiculous story after another about male supremacy, Godlike man (and man-like God), ascended master, enlightened lineage, superior blood lines (lol), elitist entitlement, divine channeler, the second-coming, the Wizard himself.
And none of it is true.
These are all self-serving constructs, motivated by financial, egoic, and power-seeking factors. I don’t care what book they read from, or what ‘special’ garb they wear, or what bell they clang, or what title they use, or what hypnotic story they tell—they are just people.
And, in my experience, the 'superior ones' are usually far less substantial, intelligent, heartfelt, or evolved, than the so-called ‘common man.’
They are usually grifters and lost-boys, masquerading their issues and (true) intentions behind a perfectly coiffured messianic mirage. And the sooner we dismantle these systems, and replace them with something rooted in meritocracy, the sooner we will liberate our species from its patriarchal trappings.
Second, it is time for all of us to focus our gaze on the healing of the victim, and not on the forgiving of the wrongdoer.
Our tendency to gaslight suffering, and to bash victimization, is fundamental to our patriarchal conditioning, and it is locking humanity inside of its pain.
With no acknowledgment of the traumas we have endured, with little support for the healing we need, we are ripe for the picking by unconscionable leaders and systems. It is no accident that many religious and spiritual teachings devalue judgment, gossip and anger, and persistently preach the value of forgiveness.
It’s a perfect set up for the perpetuation of abuse by those who run the show.
They can’t be called out, and if they are, they must be forgiven.
Little wonder so many of us spiral in and out of dissociative states, and continue to hide our true-selves below a bushel of shame in this world. It is simply too uncomfortable to be here, living as we are under the thumb of the delusional man.
I invite all of us to spend some time this week reflecting on the little boy who was asked to suck the tongue of a beloved guru. Let’s use this as an opportunity to connect with our hearts.
What might that have felt like for him?
Where might it have landed inside?
How might it have impacted his experience of safety in this world?
What healing modalities might be of value to him now, and later in life?
And how can we construct a world that shields him, and all of us, from the fallacious notion that there are human beings among us that were born superior? How can we co-create a true equality that begins and ends at the heart of our shared humanness?”
