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BTW...what happened to THIS guy?
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hmmm .. interesting - a personal email to ingrid rimland of all people, and:JudeA said:BTW...what happened to THIS guy?
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Might be helpful to be clear and explicit when posting. It's easy enough for misunderstandings to occur when people speak to each other; it's way more problematical when it is via the written word.JudeA said:HUH?
Want me to send you a copy of the letter. It just goes to show that JK goes anyway the wind blows.
Have you read Political Ponerology? Lobaczewski states that psychopaths are able to recognise each other. They don't need brain scans. The pathocracy is already capable of "selecting" those people most suited to furthering it's aims. There is ample circumstantial evidence that this has already been happening for some time.NugaBurd said:What a perfect recipe for tyranny! Psychopaths in the PTB would have the power to prevent any electoral challenge to them by prohibiting any person whom they found threatening from even appearing on a ballot. Fake the brain scan results, and voila.
A "clever person" can missaply anything. In fact that is what "clever persons" do all the time. They missaply the truth. Doe that mean we should not search for the truth? Is that what you are saying? Then you are dead wrong.NugaBurd said:Piper got played, by a real master. Kaminiski is not that far off-base. A clever person CAN misapply the knowledge in "Political Ponerology" as a template for totalitarianism.
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This reveals a fundamental lack of understanding of the theory of ponerology, if you have not read Lobaczewski I suggest you do so. Why would psychopaths who are interested in the formation of a ponerogenic union (each for their individual although mutual benefit) be interested in blocking the candidacy of psychopathic individuals? Their specific psychological knowledge which allows them to do this without brain scan technology is the driving force behind the process termed ponerogenesis.NugaBurd said:How could you so completely misinterpret my post?
What I meant is that a normal (non-psychopathic) person's brain scan result could be faked, to "diagnose" him as a psychopath. This would block his candidacy.
Likewise, a psychopath's scan results could be faked to scientifically "select" him to qualify him for the ballot.
Yes, I am aware of this concern. It seems to have been the main concern raised by people who have something to worry about in terms of brain scans showing their abnormality. So, of course, they immediately raised the hue and cry "Oh, this would be a tool for totalitarians."Nugabird said:What I meant is that a normal (non-psychopathic) person's brain scan result could be faked, to "diagnose" him as a psychopath. This would block his candidacy.
Likewise, a psychopath's scan results could be faked to scientifically "select" him to qualify him for the ballot.
It's all so scientific, you see. How could anyone in his right mind question it?
While I appreciated John's efforts on behalf of the subject of psychopathy
and Ponerology, and the first show was good and well done, I think the call
for brain scans is a bit premature and serves only to scare people.
The FIRST thing to do is to simply educate people about the existence of
this type of individual and the ways and means of dealing with it in their
personal lives, and also to help them understand how these critters rise to
the top and to stop projecting their own moral values onto them.
Ponerology is just a beginning, a call to normal people to wake up and begin
to think about and discuss this business. Only together can we actually
formulate legitimate solutions. No one person has the right or the mandate
to decide how it should be handled. I think there is not enough work on the
brain scan issue yet to consider it a reliable method. For all we know, it
only works on criminal type psychopaths and the ones that we are really
interested in - snakes in suits - might not display the same anomalies.
Since we haven't been able to get any comparative scans on such, this has to
be relegated to the realm of "not enough research."
The fact that you make that statement shows you did not understand what I meant. I suggest you read "Political Ponerology" ASAP.NugaBurd said:Ryan wrote
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How could you so completely misinterpret my post?
Those are the points I was responding to. What you are describing is a situation where psychopaths are doing the "selecting" and they are quite capable of doing this already, without "brain scans". Moreso, keeping the knowledge of psychopathy itself hidden from the masses serves them far more than having scans which could "prove" who is or is not a psychopath. Merely having such scans is indicative of a situation where subcriminal psychopathy is widely acknowledged by the larger public - in such a situation they are already worse off than at present.NugaBurd said:What I meant is that a normal (non-psychopathic) person's brain scan result could be faked, to "diagnose" him as a psychopath. This would block his candidacy.
Likewise, a psychopath's scan results could be faked to scientifically "select" him to qualify him for the ballot.
Kind of a defeatist attitude, isn't it? Framing others with falsified evidence has been perpetrated by psychopaths throughout history. You think just throwing your hands up and saying, "that would be too hard" is going to make it stop?NugaBurd said:If a (faked) scientific test reveals that you are a psychopath and thus unfit to run for public office, then good luck in fighting it.
And you think this provides them a better reason to declare a fascist lockdown than the nebulous "terror" threat? You obviously haven't been paying attention to world events.NugaBurd said:And the whole time, the government would keep reassuring us that they were protecting us against bad people. Who knows? A future president might even declare a "War on Psychopathy." (Yes, that is deliberate hyperbole.)
This is not true. Science was not transformed into religious orthodoxy. Science is using scientific methods rather than just guessing or jumping to conclusions. Some politicians and the media are USING science for their purposes. Some scientists serve, for money or fame, for these politicians. But science itself has not been transformed. There are scientific methods and "no method at all". Nobody ever sais that science is a collection of data. Again you are wrong. Science is using the scientific method for gathering and for analyzing data. Of course quite often media are making BAD USE of science. You read "It is a scientific fact that..." - but then your BS filter should kick NOT because science did something wrong (to know whether it is wrong or not you better be a scientist yourself), but because the MEDIA did something wrong, or because some scientist did something wrong. Therefore it is necessary ALWAYS to do your own research, dig out what different scientists have to say, look for what the heretics say and what scientists say about heretics etc. etc. Nothing is easy. But it is possible - with some effort on your part.NugaBurd said:I did not attack science. What I attacked was the transformation of science from a method of inquiry into religious orthodoxy. Whenever I hear or read, "It is a scientific fact that..." my BS filter kicks in, because science is not a collection of facts.