Jordan Peterson: Gender Pronouns and Free Speech War

[Alejo]

Milo Yiannopoulos has been having a field day with the video Mikhaila put out. Here's just one tweet of many like it, all implying that Mikhaila is lording over JP as his puppet master.

Damn! Horrible if true, kind of cruel of him if not

 

[Nević Nenad]

Maybe it's just evil came to collect its toll?

 

[Z...]

Same thought occurred to me when I got the email (I'm on his mailing list). Felt like responding to Mikhalia that perhaps in some case physical health is downstream of spiritual health, and supporting genocide is not spiritually healthy.

Also lets not forget he took clot shot or maybe even two.

 

[Tomiro]

Exactly which ‘message’ is she referring to? Clean your room or give them hell?

I'm not too familiar with Mikhaila Peterson, but she has interviewed Norman Finkelstein in the past, so perhaps one can assume that she doesn't share her father's views on Israel.

JP has at times talked about markers when the right or the left goes too far:

We know that things can go too far on the Right and we know that things can go too far on the Left. But we don’t know what the markers are for going too far on the Left. And I would say that it’s ethically incumbent on those who are liberal or Left-leaning to identify the markers of pathological extremism on the Left

I wonder what for him would be the point where Israel has gone too far, and what these markers of 'pathological extremism' would be if 1 million dead Palestinians doesn't cut it.

 

[Debra]

I’ve mulled over whether to add my comments to this thread, due to it possibly being perceived as “in defence” of Jordan.
I’m just as disappointed in him as everyone else, so there’s that.

I am aware of several aspects of the extenuating events and traumatic realities that Ol Jordan has had happening, tho’, so first of all thanks to @RedFox for the post.

In spite of his foolish ideas about Israel and Judaism, I’ve been wondering how Petersons been doing.
Update on Facebook by his daughter from 2 hours ago:

So here’s a snippet from Mikhalas post:
“To be perfectly honest, I think a lot of this is spiritual. My newborn Audrey almost died of heart failure for no reason in June, dad got sick and came to stay with us in July, then needed a hospital […]”

Last year , May 19th, 2024, Jordan’s Mom died suddenly and totally unexpectedly. (Geez, how can this be happening to so, so many people?) That was sarcasm by the way.

His Dad, survived a short 5 months alone without her, and he died October 22, 2024.
Their deaths affected the community deeply, as they were both still very active and much loved community members, and then both were dead, gone within half a year.

As I’ve mentioned before, the Peterson family lived in the small Northern Alberta town that I grew up in. I’ve known them to see them, and attended numerous community gatherings, weddings, and funerals with the Peterson, since I was a young child.
Now, his mom’s funeral happened last year, August of 2024.

His Dad’s service/memorial service was not until July 19th, of THIS year, 2025.

I heard all about the service and Jordan’s visits to shared friends and family, while they all were “Up North” from relatives and friends.
He joined up with a few men he grew up with, and they did a “visiting tour” and surprise visited around the various farms and homes of people Jordan had grown up with.

While Jordan was there, they took care of the business of packing up all the left behind personal belongings of his Mother and Fathers lives, and listing the Family home.
This is supposedly where he came in contact with “mold and mildew” that his daughter is blaming the illness on.
In my understanding of Biological responses to a “death fright” of one’s self, or on behalf of loved ones, “pneumonia” is the healing phase of a “death fright” that has gone UNRESOLVED for much too long…

So, with that said, We’ve ALL commented on how screwed up Jordan’s emotional and spiritual foundations have become.
So, it’s not a stretch to say it doesn’t take a genius to figure he probably came face to face with a hell of a lot of memory ghosts, regrets, grief and who knows what else after going through his Fathers and Mothers books, belongings and treasures.

Perhaps he really and truly resolved his “loss of his beloved’s” and the cascade of a weakened mind and body couldn’t regain homeostasis very well at all.

The links to their obituaries, if anyone is interested.
They WERE very remarkable people.

https://www.northernalbertafunerals.com/obituary/beverley-peterson

Jordons dad was our school principal, and taught in my elementary school when I was in grades 1 and 2.
His obituary tells the truth, once you met him, you remembered him forever.
He gave me detention for going off school grounds, in grade 1, Only the 3rd week in.
I was catching frogs with my 1st grade friends, in a pond!
His obituary link:

https://www.northernalbertafunerals.com/obituary/walter-peterson

So, there’s My 2 cents, or whatever.

 

[Turgon]

Maybe it's just evil came to collect its toll?

There are a lot of people who support Israel that aren't seeing these kinds of attacks and health complications happening because of it. So, I wouldn't say it's evil collecting its toll per say, but rather because of JP's unique position of being a 'great soul' and having the ability to see, combined with the manipulations 4D did to him while in a coma, that he's suffering from contradictions so great that his health is breaking down as a result.

 

[gottathink]

I’ve mulled over whether to add my comments to this thread, due to it possibly being perceived as “in defence” of Jordan.
I’m just as disappointed in him as everyone else, so there’s that.

I don’t think people will take your post in that way Debra. It goes along with @Turgon ’s post above. This is our reality, the people being attacked by 4D STS forces are those who could bring knowledge to the masses. Laura’s life for example. I think we can certainly have compassion for JPs situation and also realise that he is the only person that could/can change it through self responsibility. It’s ironic that that he didn’t translate his “clean your room” message into the spiritual dimension.

 

[Debra]

It’s ironic that that he didn’t translate his “clean your room” message into the spiritual dimension.

Thank you for your response and observations, and if I may add, the irony for me, is how deeply programmed Jordan is in his “beliefs” of the literal words in the Bible, especially the Old testament Hell and brimstone bullshit.

If you have the chance to read his dad’s obituary, it describes how intelligent yet strict and righteous Wally Peterson was.
Weeding through the descriptions of the man, you may be able to see how towering and accomplished he was, especially in his sons estimation.

Now, I’ve studied enough to hazard a guess that Jordan’s early imprinting of his “God” was based on his Father, and Jordan’s zealous support of Israel falls into that groove, at least from what I’ve learned from studying these early childhood Authoritarian followers patterns.
His willingness to be “all in” with the medical industrial complex as well, indicates that “follower” programming, with the belief that the body is separate from the brain and higher psyche.
I also share your perspective, about the “clean your room” message, Geezus, it’s just really unfortunate and sad Jordan isn’t turning inward, with self observations, and cleaning his own room” indeed.

 

[Fluffy]

I also share your perspective, about the “clean your room” message, Geezus, it’s just really unfortunate and sad Jordan isn’t turning inward, with self observations, and cleaning his own room” indeed.

May be he has been questioning himself and that why he needed to be ‘put back to sleep’, as is my first thought on why he’s gotten so sick and his granddaughter attacked also.
It’s just way too intersting that Mikhaila mentioned a spiritual issue more than once. What kind of spiritual issue? Was he hallucinating or telling someone that he’s feeling or sensing something not right within him?
Can only imagine what kind of stops the bigwigs can pull out on someone going against their extreme programming.

 

[Debra]

May be he has been questioning himself and that why he needed to be ‘put back to sleep’, as is my first thought on why he’s gotten so sick and his granddaughter attacked also.

My observations as to why he got “so sick” with a severe case of pneumonia, is based on biological conflict shocks of “death frights”
going unresolved for far too long.

Based on the length of time (which was a year after the deaths of BOTH of his parents,) before he apparently resolved his death fear/shock, was way too long, and there was too much alveolar cell build up in his lungs, (which is created to enable us to obtain MORE oxygen to breathe better, through the conflict) and the resolution (clearing the house, saying goodbye at the funeral) started the biological break down of the unneeded cells in his lungs. Add to that probably high doses of antibiotics, fear, and panic.

Those are all my observations based on biological laws, which in my opinion are HOW 4th Density STS manipulate most purveyors of the Medical Corporate Industry, so you do have a point.

It’s just way too intersting that Mikhaila mentioned a spiritual issue more than once. What kind of spiritual issue? Was he hallucinating or telling someone that he’s feeling or sensing something not right within him?

Well, if I remember correctly, his daughter “found” God via a “Come to Jesus” frenzied evangelical event, with the guy she later married.
Those holy rollers find Satan and spiritual “attacks” in just about anything, crows on the beach, and black cats are top of the list,.
At least that’s the kind of stuff I’ve heard the evangelical gang that shows up at my beach spouting, anyways.
So, take what she says with that in mind, maybe.
Then there’s Jordan’s wife Tammy, who after her biological “abandonment” kidney tumour health crisis, dove into Roman Catholic worship with a passion. Her background was rather “New Age” airy fairy, and after she survived, she’s now probably seeing the Devil under rocks, and in bushes too.

I honestly can’t see Jordan forsaking his programming, he is a very invested in his beliefs, and firmly stubbornly glued to his egoistic foundation.

Can only imagine what kind of stops the bigwigs can pull out on someone going against their extreme programming.

I agree, it seems the higher one climbs out of the programming, the odds get pretty sketchy for survival.
Knowledge protects, ignorance endangers, indeed.